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作者: cuteb 時間: 09-9-25 18:19 標題: 有冇後悔比仔女讀IS?

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作者: alunsweeney 時間: 09-9-25 21:25

極有同感。

以下是我個朋友個仔的example

他在esf2年，starter1年，esf小學1年，現在於st Margaret 小學p2
他沒有香港人朋友。他個仔的英文比香港小朋友好，他讀英文書的時候，口音全是鬼仔。我同他傾談的時候，他有時會用英文，當英文用不當的時，又會說廣東語。他同本地仔玩，久不久說英文，d小朋友不同他玩，因為不明。廣東話又不及local仔。香港小朋友見你說英文，又怕同你玩! 鬼仔又認為你的英文不地道，因此他只會同南亞仔如印度、巴基斯坦、日本人玩。(他又沒有教會朋輩本地朋友!)

讀那間st Margaret的學校，個外表好像是int'l但實際是本地課程，中文又跟不到，英文又不是好好，總之常常是半天吊那隻。

作者: Mighty 時間: 09-9-25 22:20

我覚得ST　MARGARET不是INTERNATIONAL SCHOOL,是一間非常注重英文的DS　SCHOOL.　　一般的評価都是好的、用INTERNATIONAL　SCHOOL的尺去量不公平。

INTERNATIONAL　SCHOOLS都有多不同LEVEL,問問GERMAN　SWISS的家長有後悔？　　便知答案了。

読本地学校的学生中文也不一定好、説話時満口懶音的多的是。　　不看中文文字書、只看漫画的也一大堆。　　読本地学校等於中文好　＝　不一定的。

説甚麼「廣東話又不及local仔。香港小朋友見你說英文，又怕同你玩! 鬼仔又認為你的英文不地道」、這只是大人父母的COMPLEX、小朋友如果是双語的、自己会調節的、在我女児学校所見、朋友仔種種配達都有、不可只LABEL一類人。　　

「啲學生會否hea吓又一日, 就係因為happy school嘅代價, 換嚟好似好廢咁, 我知唔係個個都係咁, 我只係擔心學校讀書風氣唔夠, 啲細路太輕鬆始終會懶, 有幾多個真係咁自發性同自律, 香港啲IS邊間真係讀書風氣好?」

是否国際不国際、絶無関係、国際学校的入大学水平、也算OK.

我没有後悔、但当然没有東西是完美的、家庭＆父母也要配合。

作者: wcllks 時間: 09-9-25 23:05

Like you, we are a typical middle class family.
Both my husband and I were born and raised in
HK, and received education in local schools.
Our daughter is six years old now, studying
in an IS school. We are quite satisfied and
we would select IS if we had to make a choice
again.

We put her in IS school since kindergarten.
We hired a Filipino maid who could speak
good English. Therefore, our kid has to speak
two different languages since she was small.
Now, she can communicate using both
Cantonese and English fluently. We put her in
summer school in the US for 7 weeks in July
and August. Her teacher told me she could not
tell she were from overseas. I have to confess
that she cannot read and write Chinese. On
the other hand, her English reading skill should
be similar to a native level. She can read a
whole book of several hundred words by
herself. I have to give all the credits to her
school since I seldom read books with her.
In school, she needs to write diaries of a
few sentences almost daily. Parents are given
a list of words and requested to help the
kids to memorize the spelling. Therefore,
I do not worry much about her English.
Of course, if you demand a Chinese proficiency
as a local student, it is definitely not your choice.

Since she does all the homework in school
and there is no test or exam or dictation,
she can spend almost all the after-school time in
leisure activities. She loves school very much
and goes to school every day happily since the
first day.

Having said all these, I believe whether IS
is suitable for your kid also depends on what
you want from the education. To me, fostering
her interest on learning is far more important
than raising her knowledge level at this ago.
We also do not consider a high level of
Chinese proficiency is a must. Therefore, IS
is definitely a better choice than local schools
to us.

原帖由 cuteb 於 09-9-25 18:19 發表
好少聽家長講佢哋嘅內心感受, 可否交流吓..

我哋只係好一般、唔係富豪嘅家長, 仔仔宜家近1歲, 諗緊讀IS/local, 睇太多BK家長嘅留言, 話諗住將來讀IS就唔好讀local kind., 驚又追唔上local primary, 讀local kind.英 ...

作者: oooray 時間: 09-9-26 00:16

原帖由 cuteb 於 09-9-25 18:19 發表
好少聽家長講佢哋嘅內心感受, 可否交流吓..

我哋只係好一般、唔係富豪嘅家長, 仔仔宜家近1歲, 諗緊讀IS/local, 睇太多BK家長嘅留言, 話諗住將來讀IS就唔好讀local kind., 驚又追唔上local primary, 讀local kind.英 ...

As similar as u, i listed out all the pros and cons of IS (I guess u have analysed thoroughly) before making my decision(s). After i made up my mind; as a grass-root parent, i'm struggling to strive to my goals. No regret.

作者: 壞女孩 時間: 09-9-26 07:24

你朋友仔個case，我深表同情，但以旁觀者睇，instead of 放錯個仔入IS，佢係錯在將個仔轉去local school。另我覺得你朋友仔可能性格上有問題，好多IS小朋友雖然prefer 講英文，但同local school kids一樣可以玩到癲，尤其貪玩嘅男孩子。

原帖由 alunsweeney 於 09-9-25 21:25 發表
極有同感。

以下是我個朋友個仔的example

他在esf2年，starter1年，esf小學1年，現在於st Margaret 小學p2
他沒有香港人朋友。他個仔的英文比香港小朋友好，他讀英文書的時候，口音全是鬼仔。我同他傾談的時候，他有時會用英文 ...

作者: KWOKS 時間: 09-9-26 10:02

Yes, my kid can speak Cantonese, English and Mandarin fluently without communication problem with her friends and relatives. She can switch language well with them. But I do agree that their Chinese writing may be a bit behind the local school standard.

作者: nintendo 時間: 09-9-26 10:08

原帖由 alunsweeney 於 09-9-25 21:25 發表
極有同感。

以下是我個朋友個仔的example

他在esf2年，starter1年，esf小學1年，現在於st Margaret 小學p2
他沒有香港人朋友。他個仔的英文比香港小朋友好，他讀英文書的時候，口音全是鬼仔。我同他傾談的時候，他有時會用英文 ...

你朋友個仔的情形, 在真正 IS 唔會發生; 其實國際學校好多唔同背景的, 冇人會 CARE 你的口音, 好多外國人都唔係 NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKERS, 法國德國日本人的英文都可能有自己的口音,

作者: almom 時間: 09-9-26 10:30

Have friends in different local elite schools, and local "average" schools.

All I can say is that, local schools and international schools are totally different. It is going to take me a whole day explaining the differences. But generally, I think international schools provide a more supportive, more positive and yet more dynamic environment for children to grow.

International schools are not "an easy way out". Ask parents of senior primary or secondary IS. They will tell you that the curriculum is very demanding. But at the same time, children are always getting encouragements from teachers.

My children are happy, sportive, artistic, musical and very knowledgeable. There are things that you could never imagine kids at their age would know. They love school and love to learn.

It is very important that children have the love and drive to learn on their own. The knowledge out there is unlimited, so it is important that children have the time, love and encouragement to learn in their own spare time.

If my children were put in a local school instead, I think they would have been two totally different persons.

作者: oooray 時間: 09-9-26 11:39

原帖由 almom 於 09-9-26 10:30 發表
Have friends in different local elite schools, and local "average" schools.

All I can say is that, local schools and international schools are totally different. It is going to take me a whole day ex ...

Yes. I am always amazed by my Year 1 girl the way she thinks and learns and makes use of the knowledge from kindergarten from books and even from Playhouse Disney at age of 5.
Comparing with my days when i was 5, i was just an "idiot" (should this word be banned when describing myself?). Simply following parents and teachers instructions...that's all.
I don't want my children following my footprints.

作者: babyoush 時間: 09-9-26 18:57

想問下大家如果小朋友一路都讀開IS kinder, 家長都prefer IS, 但考小學時小朋友話鍾意local school, 咁大家會點選擇呢?

作者: eaymom 時間: 09-9-26 20:11

除了負擔比較重之外, 其他一切都很如意, 所以無悔.

原帖由 cuteb 於 09-9-25 18:19 發表
好少聽家長講佢哋嘅內心感受, 可否交流吓..

我哋只係好一般、唔係富豪嘅家長, 仔仔宜家近1歲, 諗緊讀IS/local, 睇太多BK家長嘅留言, 話諗住將來讀IS就唔好讀local kind., 驚又追唔上local primary, 讀local kind.英 ...

作者: eaymom 時間: 09-9-26 21:51

其實會有這種情況嗎?考小學時小朋友應該是5或6歲吧.他們會知道local school或IS 的分別嗎? 唯一想到的是他們兩種學校都試過. 否則佷難想像讀IS Kinder 會知道什麼是Local School.

原帖由 babyoush 於 09-9-26 18:57 發表
想問下大家如果小朋友一路都讀開IS kinder, 家長都prefer IS, 但考小學時小朋友話鍾意local school, 咁大家會點選擇呢?

[ 本帖最後由 eaymom 於 09-9-26 21:58 編輯 ]

作者: Chole 時間: 09-9-26 23:35

I very much envy you guys who have put your kids in IS. It is a big commitment in terms of financial resources.

My elder kid is in a local school for my various fears - Chinese standard, discipline and drug problem. She is now 10 and I found that she is pretty disciplined and drug problem is a territory-wide issue anyway, so these concerns are no longer valid and I wish her to change path. For Chinese, I may need to give up! This is not an easy language for her!

I know that IS is not a way out at all. Good IS always got a long waiting list. I'll let her try anyway! I hope she can benefit from a supportive learning environment.

作者: babyoush 時間: 09-9-27 10:44

原帖由 eaymom 於 09-9-26 21:51 發表
其實會有這種情況嗎?考小學時小朋友應該是5或6歲吧.他們會知道local school或IS 的分別嗎? 唯一想到的是他們兩種學校都試過. 否則佷難想像讀IS Kinder 會知道什麼是Local School.

...

因為佢見過/參觀過local kinder, 有親戚讀緊, 我有講過local school會有好多功課同test, 好辛苦架喎, 不過唔知係咪佢見到全部都係中國人, 有親切感d掛, 佢話唔怕做功課, 咁點算呀??

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 09-9-27 15:11 標題: 回覆 1# babyoush 的文章

I think you should tell her all the pros and cons of international vs local schools. But honestly, I don't think in the first place you should let her choose if she's so small.

作者: babyoush 時間: 09-9-27 15:39

其實我擔心佢會唔會因為咁而唔開心者, 係o既話搞到好似逼佢讀IS咁, 還是真係可以唔理佢幫佢選?? 會唔會影響將來讀書投入度呢??

作者: weiwei01 時間: 09-9-28 00:16

原帖由 babyoush 於 09-9-27 15:39 發表
其實我擔心佢會唔會因為咁而唔開心者, 係o既話搞到好似逼佢讀IS咁, 還是真係可以唔理佢幫佢選?? 會唔會影響將來讀書投入度呢??

我個case係RC（插班p.2）同幾間直資都收左呀女，我地好想佢去RC，但唔知點解，佢好中意一間直資學校，就係基於你既諗法，我地俾佢揀。而家開左學約兩個月，佢好開心，就算我地有時講笑話叫佢轉校，佢既答案係：「俾多一個機會我，學期尾考試考得好，我係咪可以讀落去？」

我知道佢而家好中意間學校，但我地依然十五十六，唔知有冇決定錯。因為講緊既係香港既教育制度同local 高考，真係要到十幾年後先知。

[ 本帖最後由 weiwei01 於 09-9-28 00:37 編輯 ]

作者: filicity 時間: 09-9-28 08:55

其實最緊要係你個小朋友適合邊種教學模式,例如如果佢係模仿形就最適合傳統學校,而認知形就應該讀國際學校.當然經濟能力都要考慮啦!
我個女已經係QBS讀咗兩年,之前係Woodland讀,我同老公都非常满意,而個女又極開心.而且學校每日都有四十五分鐘普通話堂.同埋英文,數學,普通話都係分枱,分班去學習.我地學得比差不多六千元學費係好超值.

作者: WYmom 時間: 09-9-28 09:27

原帖由 cuteb 於 09-9-25 18:19 發表
好少聽家長講佢哋嘅內心感受, 可否交流吓..

我哋只係好一般、唔係富豪嘅家長, 仔仔宜家近1歲, 諗緊讀IS/local, 睇太多BK家長嘅留言, 話諗住將來讀IS就唔好讀local kind., 驚又追唔上local primary, 讀local kind.英 ...

If you know what you expect, and do some detail research directly from your target schools (not hearsay from others), then you won't regret from your own choice.

There are many types of schools now - very traditional famous one, semi-traditional, semi-IS, real IS.  Each type of schools have their own pros and cons.  So you need to check for details and match with your kids' personality and your own criteria (academic, financial, future secondary and U destination, etc).

In real IS, it is not just happy studying.  It is more about motivating the kids to have interest to learn, enjoy the learning process, and know how to learn continuously by themselves for life.  Assessment is done for each child to help improving oneself, not to compare with others.  Parents also need to spare much time to help at home, such as accompanying the kids to read books everyday, going to excursions, etc.

Now there are many new type of local DSS using activity approach, such as WKF, CKY, HKUAS...yet I don't know the effectiveness and results of them.  You may also like to see if those are suitable for you or not.

[ 本帖最後由 WYmom 於 09-9-28 09:29 編輯 ]

作者: babyoush 時間: 09-9-28 13:14

原帖由 filicity 於 09-9-28 08:55 發表
其實最緊要係你個小朋友適合邊種教學模式,例如如果佢係模仿形就最適合傳統學校,而認知形就應該讀國際學校.當然經濟能力都要考慮啦!
我個女已經係QBS讀咗兩年,之前係Woodland讀,我同老公都非常满意,而個女又極開心.而 ...

我2個女都係讀woodland, 真係好開心包括我自己, 不過問題就係大女話鍾意local不過佢係認知型, 做野好主動, 細女係模仿型但模仿得嚟佢又唔鍾意墨守成規, 因為佢好怕重複同一樣野, 點算......唉~

作者: oooray 時間: 09-9-28 14:02

原帖由 babyoush 於 09-9-28 13:14 發表

我2個女都係讀woodland, 真係好開心包括我自己, 不過問題就係大女話鍾意local不過佢係認知型, 做野好主動, 細女係模仿型但模仿得嚟佢又唔鍾意墨守成規, 因為佢好怕重複同一樣野, 點算......唉~ ...

其實妳揀得Woodland是否已經心中有數，已決定用腳對香港教育制度投下神聖一票?
小朋友仲細，今天妳用父母o既智慧幫佢擇，萬一擇錯，仲可以再用父母o既智慧(仲有剩o既話)修正修正再修正；
如果妳今天放手俾佢自己揀，明天，後天妳又會唔會覺得佢揀得唔o岩心水"手痕"(咪話後悔咁嚴重)又幫佢調教o下?
當然，如果對Local School平靚正o既service仲有信心，另作别論。
以上只是小人偏見，唔o岩心水莫見怪。

作者: babyoush 時間: 09-9-28 14:10

原帖由 oooray 於 09-9-28 14:02 發表

其實妳揀得Woodland是否已經心中有數，已決定用腳對香港教育制度投下神聖一票?
小朋友仲細，今天妳用父母o既智慧幫佢擇，萬一擇錯，仲可以再用父母o既智慧(仲有剩o既話)修正修正再修正；
如果妳今天放手俾佢自己揀，明天，後天妳 ...

係架, 其實由未大肚個時就已經投咗票架啦, 不過小朋友開始大, 唔理佢感受又好似有點兒....

作者: oooray 時間: 09-9-28 15:16

原帖由 babyoush 於 09-9-28 14:10 發表

係架, 其實由未大肚個時就已經投咗票架啦, 不過小朋友開始大, 唔理佢感受又好似有點兒....

我對仔女個個禮拜都叫我去Toysrus,Disney, Ocean Park….咁邊個理我感受?

作者: almom 時間: 09-9-28 16:17

原帖由 babyoush 於 09-9-28 14:10 發表

係架, 其實由未大肚個時就已經投咗票架啦, 不過小朋友開始大, 唔理佢感受又好似有點兒....

There are things that children would never have a choice.
We parents are the people that decide what is best for them according to our values and believe.
What if your child says I am not going to school and want to work at 16? Are you still going to respect her choice?

May be I am stubborn. But my children know that there are things that they need to follow my decisions. For one, they have no choice of which school they are going to for primary and secondary school. They also have no choice but have to complete at least their undergraduate degree. They do have a choice of which country and which university to go to (as long as I can afford) tough. After that, if they want to be a rock star or a construction worker, it is their choice.

[ 本帖最後由 almom 於 09-9-28 16:20 編輯 ]

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 09-9-28 16:55

原帖由 babyoush 於 09-9-28 14:10 發表

係架, 其實由未大肚個時就已經投咗票架啦, 不過小朋友開始大, 唔理佢感受又好似有點兒....

我覺得作為家長, 可以俾你揀我一定俾但不可揀的你點都冇得揀. 如果唔係做選民就唔駛18歲啦! 你小朋友同你講阿媽我今日唔食飯淨食朱古力得唔得? 大熱天時要著羽絨得唔得? 唔係樣樣事都可俾佢話事, 影嚮深遠的事係要父母幫小小年紀的佢作決定的, 呢個係做父母的責任, 將來佢唔好好讀書你亦冇得話係你自己揀o既呢d咁不負責任的說話. 父母應為佢哋舖好平坦的道路, 但最終點行就關付佢哋點樣成長了. 如果真係要俾仔女咁大自由, 咁你諗清楚讀傳統學校適合你家庭嗎? 你將來可唔可以俾你小朋友選擇唔做功課唔溫書? 但我俾阿女讀IS, 因為我想俾阿女選擇放學後想做D乜學D乜同去邊度玩.

作者: babyoush 時間: 09-9-29 13:47

我明白啦, 好多謝你地o既意見, 我諗我會比大女讀IS, 細女讀Local, 因為細女比較反叛, 太自由我諗會危險d, 謝謝各位~!

作者: wisekid2007 時間: 09-9-29 14:11

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作者: oooray 時間: 09-9-29 14:47

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-9-29 14:11 發表
If your younger daughter is 較反叛, it should be even better or more suitable for her to study in IS. Don't think that studying in IS means 太自由. The only 自由 refers to the creativity and imaginati ...

100% agree with wisekid2007.
I was struggling before sending my elder daughter to IS because I could not persuade myself by any reasons (even financial reasons) if I am sending one to IS and one to local.

作者: WYmom 時間: 09-9-29 15:19

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-9-29 14:11 發表
If your younger daughter is 較反叛, it should be even better or more suitable for her to study in IS. Don't think that studying in IS means 太自由. The only 自由 refers to the creativity and imaginati ...

Yes, agree very much. One of my kid is also like this, local schools limit her creativity, all exams require model answers only, no marks for non-model answers, which is very frustrating and discouraging. IS encourages kids to think in different ways, to give different answers, to think out of the box.

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作者: almom 時間: 09-9-29 17:41

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-9-29 14:11 發表
If your younger daughter is 較反叛, it should be even better or more suitable for her to study in IS. Don't think that studying in IS means 太自由. The only 自由 refers to the creativity and imaginati ...

Agree!
In fact, I cannot think of any kind of kids that are not suitable to IS education.

作者: 蜜蜜 時間: 09-9-29 19:17

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-9-29 14:11 發表
If your younger daughter is 較反叛, it should be even better or more suitable for her to study in IS. Don't think that studying in IS means 太自由. The only 自由 refers to the creativity and imaginati ...

totally agree, if the child is 較反叛, i don't think u can tighten her by any "discipline" thing in local schools, 'cos they are just copying the "role model" they believe in and that absolutely not suitable to educate child with 較反叛 character and can be very dangerous. in another words of 較反叛, you can always enhance it as 有主見, so IS teaching method will guide her to more creativity and lead her to think independently, she will be more benefit on it. otherwise, the more u force her, the more rebellion she will be.

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原帖由 oooray 於 09-9-28 14:02 發表

其實妳揀得Woodland是否已經心中有數，已決定用腳對香港教育制度投下神聖一票?
小朋友仲細，今天妳用父母o既智慧幫佢擇，萬一擇錯，仲可以再用父母o既智慧(仲有剩o既話)修正修正再修正；
如果妳今天放手俾佢自己揀，明天，後天妳 ...

有時我覺得香港d家長太過民主,
揀學校係大件事, 大人作決定前都要做 research & 睇埋小朋友的 personality, 而好多時個決定都幾難做. 但係呢d大事, 有d家長竟然會讓一個只得5-6歲的人仔去揀. 佢地揀時, 憑咩做 decision? 直覺, 感覺?

作者: oooray 時間: 09-9-29 22:31

原帖由 birdbird 於 09-9-29 21:03 發表

有時我覺得香港d家長太過民主,
揀學校係大件事, 大人作決定前都要做 research & 睇埋小朋友的 personality, 而好多時個決定都幾難做. 但係呢d大事, 有d家長竟然會讓一個只得5-6歲的人仔去揀. 佢地揀時, 憑咩做 dec ...

i guess it is not because of democracy. just because most people are avoiding making critical decisions. it is a gene of human being, including u and me...

作者: danielboy 時間: 09-9-30 10:40

我反而有興趣知道一個讀緊幼稚園嘅小朋友點解會話鍾意local school多d呢?對家長嚟講, IS同local school主要係教學模式上嘅決擇,但一個幼兒又憑咩呢?

作者: nintendo 時間: 09-9-30 11:36

原帖由 danielboy 於 09-9-30 10:40 發表
我反而有興趣知道一個讀緊幼稚園嘅小朋友點解會話鍾意local school多d呢?對家長嚟講, IS同local school主要係教學模式上嘅決擇,但一個幼兒又憑咩呢?

大人都要周圍問, 周圍打聽, 先敢做決定

作者: babyoush 時間: 09-9-30 14:35

原帖由蜜蜜於 09-9-29 19:17 發表

totally agree, if the child is 較反叛, i don't think u can tighten her by any "discipline" thing in local schools, 'cos they are just copying the "role model" they believe in and that absolutely not ...

我又唔覺佢有主見喎, 因為問親佢野佢都睇家姐頭, 家姐講乜佢講乜, 但係叫佢做野或者同佢講野, 次次都要叫幾次, 仲要扭扭拎拎唔願做咁囉, 咁應該點呀??

作者: ViannDadi 時間: 09-10-3 02:48

hello weiwei01,

May I know which DSS is your daughter studing now ?

原帖由 weiwei01 於 09-9-28 00:16 發表

我個case係RC（插班p.2）同幾間直資都收左呀女，我地好想佢去RC，但唔知點解，佢好中意一間直資學校，就係基於你既諗法，我地俾佢揀。而家開左學約兩個月，佢好開心，就算我地有時講笑話叫佢轉校，佢既答案係：「俾多一個機會我，學期尾 ...

作者: Ruby1219 時間: 09-10-4 17:03 標題: 回覆 2# babyoush 的文章

I read a book teaching us that we should let our children know that we always love them,but parents are always the "ruler" of the family. I think this is very important. And in fact I see IS are applying similar principle to the kids. The kids are always being respected as an individual, but on the other hand they must comply to the rules set by the school.

作者: 康熙來了 時間: 09-10-7 00:11

原帖由 cuteb 於 09-9-25 18:19 發表
好少聽家長講佢哋嘅內心感受, 可否交流吓..

我哋只係好一般、唔係富豪嘅家長, 仔仔宜家近1歲, 諗緊讀IS/local, 睇太多BK家長嘅留言, 話諗住將來讀IS就唔好讀local kind., 驚又追唔上local primary, 讀local kind.英 ...

我對仔女係ICS讀緊8年和6年斑......讀得好開心....好鐘意返學.....放假好鐘意去圖書館......我覺得ICS校風幾好.....仔女冇同學食煙...又冇鬥名牌....個個都好樸素下.....不過中文老師教得唔係幾好.......但整體上我好滿意.......

作者: CFaHB 時間: 09-10-7 11:41

唔好意思, 插一下咀.

我同事(男人)係由細到大讀 IS, 之後 USA U
佢個女6歲, 今年入讀local名女校
唔係 $ 問題
我問佢點解
佢話其實 IS 小學係 OK
但 IS 中學, d 小朋友比較開放 ...
佢話經歷過, 唔想個女思想開放 ...

咁我話 local 都係咁啦 ...
佢話唔同, ... 好普通,
佢都話如果自己果個係仔就入 IS .... 女唔想 ....

請不要插我, 只是直講咋

作者: hoeve 時間: 09-10-7 12:16

HELLO康熙來了
我呀女下年升ICS小學了，都係因為覺得ICS學生好純樸好乖先俾呀女讀。想問下中文方面教得無咁好，那麼要自己教嗎?或是請補習呢?

原帖由 康熙來了 於 09-10-7 00:11 發表

我對仔女係ICS讀緊8年和6年斑......讀得好開心....好鐘意返學.....放假好鐘意去圖書館......我覺得ICS校風幾好.....仔女冇同學食煙...又冇鬥名牌....個個都好樸素下.....不過中文老師教得唔係幾好.......但整體上 ...

作者: nintendo 時間: 09-10-7 12:38

原帖由 CFaHB 於 09-10-7 11:41 發表
唔好意思, 插一下咀.

我同事(男人)係由細到大讀 IS, 之後 USA U
佢個女6歲, 今年入讀local名女校
唔係 $ 問題
我問佢點解
佢話其實 IS 小學係 OK
但 IS 中學, d 小朋友比較開放 ...
佢話經歷過, 唔想個女思想開放 . ...

其實每個人為孩子選校, 都有唔同的原因
未必個個會講真正原因

話時話, 你同事以前讀邊間 IS?
點解會覺得 IS "思想開放" ?
就咁話 "思想開放" 太壟統, 可唔可以講 D 實例聽下?

作者: Cara2006 時間: 09-10-7 12:48

原帖由 康熙來了 於 09-10-7 00:11 發表

我覺得ICS校風幾好.....仔女冇同學食煙...

你又知 "冇同學食煙" ? 見唔到就當冇 ?
大佬, 學生唔食煙, 係好基本, 唔係賣點.

作者: Cara2006 時間: 09-10-7 12:50

原帖由 nintendo 於 09-10-7 12:38 發表

其實每個人為孩子選校, 都有唔同的原因
未必個個會講真正原因

話時話, 你同事以前讀邊間 IS?
點解會覺得 IS "思想開放" ?
就咁話 "思想開放" 太壟統, 可唔可以講 D 實例聽下? ...

你真係不愧為 "國際學校打手".

作者: oooray 時間: 09-10-7 13:23

我不會插你，只想插你個同事。
讀咁多書仲有d咁o既思維:
"佢都話如果自己果個係仔就入 IS .... 女唔想 ...."
有d咁o既家長，祝佢個女好運。

原帖由 CFaHB 於 09-10-7 11:41 發表
唔好意思, 插一下咀.

我同事(男人)係由細到大讀 IS, 之後 USA U
佢個女6歲, 今年入讀local名女校
唔係 $ 問題
我問佢點解
佢話其實 IS 小學係 OK
但 IS 中學, d 小朋友比較開放 ...
佢話經歷過, 唔想個女思想開放 . ...

作者: almom 時間: 09-10-7 13:36

原帖由 CFaHB 於 09-10-7 11:41 發表
唔好意思, 插一下咀.

我同事(男人)係由細到大讀 IS, 之後 USA U
佢個女6歲, 今年入讀local名女校
唔係 $ 問題
我問佢點解
佢話其實 IS 小學係 OK
但 IS 中學, d 小朋友比較開放 ...
佢話經歷過, 唔想個女思想開放 ...

咁我話 local 都係咁啦 ...
佢話唔同, ... 好普通,
佢都話如果自己果個係仔就入 IS .... 女唔想 ....

請不要插我, 只是直講咋

I do not agree that IS are more 思想開放. But really do not want to discuss further. I think he has rights to believe what he wants to believe.

And, even based of this twisted assumption, I do not quite understand the logic of your colleague. If 思想開放 is not want he likes, why would he not mind putting his son in an IS? Should boys be protected as much as well?

For me, if there is a value that I do not agree to, both my son and daughter would be kept away from it.

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原帖由 Reximom 於 09-10-7 14:14 發表

真係笑爆嘴, 人地個同事係以過來人身份講佢既經驗. 夠膽死話人believe what he wants to believe, twisted assumption. 明明咩叫經驗呀? 即係experience呀, 發生左架啦, 仲believe, assumption!

請問你d仔女幾 ...

我都知妳鍾意係度發炮，但以我有限o既智慧就解讀唔倒almom's viewpoint 有乜可以俾妳大做文章?
唔該妳睇清楚上文下理先發炮啦!
好似妳係度亂發炮，係發生o左呀，但我係唔認同妳o既行為，唔得咩?

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作者: elok2009 時間: 09-10-8 11:41

communication problem existed is because the children in traditional primary school are too young to speak good english

i think the problem will be solved very soon when all of them grow up

作者: vivmum 時間: 09-10-8 11:59

我儿子是year 1学生。最近的phonics功课是把某个字母开头的词画出来。比如，列出以s开头的单词，把它们画出来。我的儿子很喜欢做这样的作业。我也觉得这样很好，鼓励孩子动脑筋，能引起孩子的求知欲。

我想在local学校里，可能就是老师直接把以s开头的单词写10个出来，然后让学生每个词抄写10遍。

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原帖由 thankful 於 09-10-8 13:12 發表
亦有D人將IS講到有幾衰得幾衰, 無他既, 咁先可以平衡自己心理變態, 唔駛咁妒忌他人!

未必係心理變態咁嚴重，亦唔係"妒忌"咁誇張...
有人覺得讀直資平靚正，有人覺得讀IS物有所值。河水不犯井水。
最唔明有d"人"成日有理冇理，見人就咬!
當然唔排除有少部份人有錢捨得買車買豪宅買Limited Edition包包，但又唔捨得俾錢d仔女讀IS，所以不停批評IS，咁就可平衡一下佢o既英明決定!

作者: matthewdad 時間: 09-10-9 09:43

Recently, I find there is a lot of IS student also go to tutorial class in Maths. There is a tutorial school in central which offers tutorial class for IB at HK$700 per lesson & all the course are full.
I think only local school kid need to go to tutorial school ?????

原帖由 oooray 於 09-10-8 13:38 發表

未必係心理變態咁嚴重，亦唔係"妒忌"咁誇張...
有人覺得讀直資平靚正，有人覺得讀IS物有所值。河水不犯井水。
最唔明有d"人"成日有理冇理，見人就咬!
當然唔排除有少部份人有錢捨得買車買豪宅買Limited Edition包包，但又唔 ...

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作者: oooray 時間: 09-10-9 10:43

原帖由 matthewdad 於 09-10-9 09:43 發表
Recently, I find there is a lot of IS student also go to tutorial class in Maths. There is a tutorial school in central which offers tutorial class for IB at HK$700 per lesson & all the course are ful ...

"Comparison" is a new DNA in majority Hong Kong Chinese parents, no matter IS or Local (maybe including me...i'm not so sure).
If I were the owner of tutorial class centre, i will charge HK$1000 or HK$1500 per lesson;coz sheeps must feel better by paying HK$1000/lesson class after the mechanism of Comparison.
I thought studying in IS can leave the battlefield but it seems I was wrong. Another battlefield(s) has/have been establishing...

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原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-10-9 11:47 發表
The reason of having another battlefield(s) being established is that there are increasing IS schools and students including a lot of those new IS parents who still have the "traditional" mind-set of ...

Agree.
Then, are you feeling pressure if not sending your boy to traditional tutorial classes in those areas he is not too strong?

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作者: oooray 時間: 09-10-9 12:42

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-10-9 12:12 發表
No, I don't feel any pressure. Parents will not chat about which tutorial classes their kids are attending.

In fact, I haven't sent my boy to any academic tutorial class except having a private Chine ...

I don't "buy" tutorial classes (except Chinese), too.
If I "buy" Kumon, why not send my children to Free of Charge local school?
Maybe they would be trained to be a good examination machines. That's all; and no more.

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作者: oooray 時間: 09-10-9 15:21

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 09-10-9 14:31 發表
Happy to know that there are 同道人 in BK.

In fact, my boy's academic assessment results at school is only above average. None of the subject, even including English, was assessed as top of the class ...

But i do worry "tutorial class" will become epidemic amongst IS in Hong Kong (like local schools that attending tutorial class is a symbol of success even for 10As elites(or machines?))
In future, we may be forced to feed "chicken essence" to our children remain competitive.
In one day, 90% population are zombies, the best way to survive is to be a zombie, too...

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作者: iamfine 時間: 09-10-9 17:17

Sending IS students to after school extra lessons is indeed a recent phenomenon. When my elder child was in an IS some years ago, nobody compared academic results of different IS and I never heard any parent came out and complimented his child's school's academic results. Seems that IS parents are now becoming more like local schools' parents and feeling less and less secure.

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