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作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-9-22 00:17 標題: English Standard of SPK v.s. SHCK (聖心)

My girl is 02/07 and currently I am applying 2010/2011 K1 for her. As I am not very familiar with schools on HK Island (coz moved to HK Island only after marriage), can any parents give me some comments?

Personally I really like "ONE DRAGON" schools, however, I also have big concern about the English standard of my girl. Knowing that SPK / SHCK are dream schools of many parents basically because they are ONE DRAGON, may I ask about the ENGLISH STANDARD of these schools?

Please help! Thank!!!

作者: bb@wonderland 時間: 09-9-22 11:27 標題: 回覆 1# esther.cy 的文章

Hi Esther,

Both schools are of good standard, very good school, from kinder, primary to secondary. I have friends' kids studying in both schools. All are smart and good.

At this stage, I will suggest you to apply both schools first, and no need to worry now. Choose when you have the results being admitted by both schools.

作者: Winnietao 時間: 09-9-22 13:53

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作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-9-22 18:04

My B is a big girl, as said, 0207. But the teaching medium of both SPK and SHCK is Cantonese, right? Do you have NET?? I have no doubt in their academic performance as they both are very famous schools in HK, but I just worry about their English standards.

Grateful if you could share some more info about their during of English class each day, etc.

Thanks again!!!

作者: mwssdwbw 時間: 09-9-22 18:42

SPK - no NET. So it is not fair to compare the English standards with those KG with NET. Yet SPK does have English lesson every day, and the teachers try hard to communicate with the students in English.

SHCK - it seems they have NET, but not every day. As my kid is not studying in SHCK, I cannot give further comments about it.

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原帖由 mwssdwbw 於 09-9-22 06:42 PM 發表
SPK - no NET. So it is not fair to compare the English standards with those KG with NET. Yet SPK does have English lesson every day, and the teachers try hard to communicate with the students in Eng ...

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-9-23 13:39

Yup, know that the English standard is good for their primary & secondary schools, but just worry if they can enter into their kindergarten but fail to promote directly to their primary school, then they cannot catch up the English level of other good schools.

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-9-23 14:29

My daughter is in SHCK (NC class = K1) this year. They have at least 4 days per week of English lessons with NET.

And if you really concern about English standard, the best way will probabaly be to arrange extra lessons outside of kindergarten. It is very difficult to compare the English standard of two kindergartens and as many parents said it might not be fair.

原帖由 mwssdwbw 於 09-9-22 18:42 發表
SPK - no NET. So it is not fair to compare the English standards with those KG with NET. Yet SPK does have English lesson every day, and the teachers try hard to communicate with the students in Eng ...

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-9-23 15:45 編輯 ]

作者: bb@wonderland 時間: 09-9-23 15:00

I do agree with iantsang, if you concern English standard, the best way is to go out and take extra courses.

The programs of both kinders can cope well with their primary standard, no need to worry.

For girls, these two are the dream kindergartens for most parents.

原帖由 iantsang 於 09-9-23 14:29 發表
My daughter is in SHCK (NC class = K1) this year. They have at least 4 days per week with English lessons and use NET.

And if you really concern about English standard, the best way will probabaly b ...

作者: bonnie_chan 時間: 09-9-23 18:22

sorry, i don't understand what is 'NET'.

作者: ILBC 時間: 09-9-23 18:38

native English teacher

原帖由 bonnie_chan 於 23-9-2009 18:22 發表
sorry, i don't understand what is 'NET'.

作者: bonnie_chan 時間: 09-9-23 18:46

oh. ic Thanks

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-9-24 17:46

Thanks for the comment from Ian & bb@wonderland.

Ian, I have read your articles / information about kindergartens under another topics, it is really useful, thanks!

Actually I am more or less the same as you, with 2 girls and the little one will go to PN next year. But only that my big girl is 02/07, so she is still in PN but I am thinking to apply for SPK and SHCK tis year. Seems that SPK and SHCK are the dream schools of parents who have a princess / princesses on HK Island.

Could you please share your interview experience at SHCK K1 last year? Thanks a lot.

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-9-24 23:47

Hi esther.cy,

You can refer to my post early this year after the interview. There are also posts from other parents in that thread.

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=1693623&extra=page%3D4#

Hope it helps you!

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-9-24 17:46 發表
Thanks for the comment from Ian & bb@wonderland.

Ian, I have read your articles / information about kindergartens under another topics, it is really useful, thanks!

Actually I am more or less the s ...

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-9-25 00:57

Can I choose the language of interview or is the interview conducted in Cantonese? My girl is strong in English (coz both myself and helper speaker to her in English) and her cantonese is not very good. Worry if she can manage interview at SHCK :(

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-9-25 01:05

The interview at SHCK is in Cantonese. As for some kindergartens, you may request to have the interview conducted in English. However, you must note the medium of instruction will still be Cantonese.

Actually I have known mothers from bk who also have such concern and at the end, they both decided to give up SHCK and attend international kindergarten. I think you need to make this decision since those with primary schools related mostly use Cantonese to teach.

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-9-25 00:57 發表
Can I choose the language of interview or is the interview conducted in Cantonese? My girl is strong in English (coz both myself and helper speaker to her in English) and her cantonese is not very go ...

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-9-25 19:11

Ian,

As my husband already say NO to international school, and I concern their English standard so much, this is the reason why I need to think very carefully about my choice.

Many thanks again for your help!!!

Esther

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-9-25 22:45

Hi esther.cy,

May be you can consider Good Hope. I just read the post from another bk mom today that they have finally publish the application information. They said won't have voucher so likely they will try to have more freedom on the teaching method. If that's the case, I will suspect they will have more focus on English, since their primary section' medium of instruction is English.

My wife and I also don't like international school so we also have not considered that.

Ian

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-9-25 19:11 發表
Ian,

As my husband already say NO to international school, and I concern their English standard so much, this is the reason why I need to think very carefully about my choice.

Many thanks again for ...

作者: Rary 時間: 09-9-27 00:42

Esther,

Just surfed by; my daughter has just graduated from SH Kingergarten so I think I could share some experience.  At first when I chose SH Kindergarten, I believed that its English standard is really good because I heard that SH Private Primary School's English classes are 1- year advanced.  Yet I found that relative to other subjects, English is the subject which I found was not particularly outstanding, and I believe the english standards for international schools (and schools like CCKG) will most likely be higher than SHK's. My younger son just got into Sheng Kung Hui Kindergarten this year and comparing the 2 kinders' english cirriculum, I think SKH's is more systematic and comprehensive, which further confirmed my belief that there is room for improvement for SHK's english cirriculum.

Yet please don't take me that I think SHK is no good - quite the contrary, I think SHK is a very good kindergarten, good & caring teachers, close communication with parents, teaches the students good values, and academically, quite good in all subjects apart from english, in which I believe they could further improve.  That's why I let my daughter take english classes outside school, and that actually solved the issue.

I'm glad that I've let my daugther study at SHK, and my daughter herself was also happy to have graduated from SHK.

Ian,

Browsed through a few of your "analyses", pretty comprehensive and objective.  Great job!

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-9-25 19:11 發表
Ian,

As my husband already say NO to international school, and I concern their English standard so much, this is the reason why I need to think very carefully about my choice.

Many thanks again for ...

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-9-27 02:40

Hi Rary,

Thanks very much for the compliment! Any suggestions for the external English courses which your daughter took to accompany SHCK?

Thanks/ Ian

原帖由 Rary 於 09-9-27 00:42 發表
Esther,

Just surfed by; my daughter has just graduated from SH Kingergarten so I think I could share some experience. At first when I chose SH Kindergarten, I believed that its English standard is r ...

作者: ML_Ngan 時間: 09-9-27 17:55

Hi Rary,

Pardon me that I would like to know how to compare English standard between CCKG & Sheng Kung? Would you please illustrate some examples? I also would like to apply Sheng Kung Hui as my kindergarten application next year.

Thanks/Liza

原帖由 Rary 於 09-9-27 00:42 發表
Esther,

Just surfed by; my daughter has just graduated from SH Kingergarten so I think I could share some experience. At first when I chose SH Kindergarten, I believed that its English standard is r ...

作者: Rary 時間: 09-9-27 20:57

Liza,

As my son only started SKH for a month, I could only say that the approach and the materials that they chose were good and systematic (in my opinion); how well it goes, I think I need another 2 or 3 months time to experience before I could give a more detail and objective comment. Bear in mind though, SKH is a Chinese Kindergarten, while CCKG uses English in most of its subjects.

Regarding CCKG, I've got some friends' kids studying there. Judging from their kids' English standard, I would say if you are looking at local schools, CCKG would be amongst the highest standard ones for sure.

原帖由 ML_Ngan 於 09-9-27 17:55 發表
Hi Rary,

Pardon me that I would like to know how to compare English standard between CCKG & Sheng Kung? Would you please illustrate some examples? I also would like to apply Sheng Kung Hui as my ki ...

[ 本帖最後由 Rary 於 09-9-27 22:04 編輯 ]

作者: Rary 時間: 09-9-27 21:20

She was doing jolly phonics.

By the way, I just attended a birthday party today and met a SH parent whose younger daughter is still in SH. She said that they've hired a new NET teacher (whom she said was good) and there was also a change in syllabus. So what I said yesterday applies to the PAST, so parents please note when referring to my previous statements.

原帖由 iantsang 於 09-9-27 02:40 發表
Hi Rary,

Thanks very much for the compliment! Any suggestions for the external English courses which your daughter took to accompany SHCK?

Thanks/ Ian

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-9-27 22:57

Thanks for the info.

Actually I am aware of the change. However, in my case, I let my daughter attend this kindergarten with the expectation that they don't put as much emphasis on English as in the old time so I ended up getting more than I expected!

原帖由 Rary 於 09-9-27 21:20 發表
She was doing jolly phonics.

By the way, I just attended a birthday party today and met a SH parent whose younger daughter is still in SH. She said that they've hired a new NET teacher (whom she sai ...

作者: ML_Ngan 時間: 09-9-27 23:46

Hi Rary,

Noted with thanks!

May I have Jolly Phonics website?

Liza

原帖由 Rary 於 09-9-27 21:20 發表
She was doing jolly phonics.

By the way, I just attended a birthday party today and met a SH parent whose younger daughter is still in SH. She said that they've hired a new NET teacher (whom she sai ...

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-10-2 11:44

Ian & Rary,

Heard that SHCK K1 takes only kids who reach 3 by Sep each year, may I know if it is true??

Since my big girl is 02/07 while small girl is 09/08, I hope my big girl can "give advantage" to my small girl when the time she goes to K1.

Please advise and comment, thanks :)

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-10-2 11:59

Hi esther.cy,

SHCK accepts children who reach 2 years and 8 months old by September, just like majority of other kindergartens.

I think they are quite fair on the admission so Big B and small B both have their chances. For example last year, a lot of small b did get accepted. Like my daughter's class, it is around 60/40.

Good luck to you on your coming application!

Ian

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-10-2 11:44 發表
Ian & Rary,

Heard that SHCK K1 takes only kids who reach 3 by Sep each year, may I know if it is true??

Since my big girl is 02/07 while small girl is 09/08, I hope my big girl can "give advantage" ...

作者: A9109494 時間: 09-10-2 16:30 標題: 回覆 1# esther.cy 的文章

Hi esther,

My girl is studying in spk k3. SPK's english level is not high at all. They dont have NET, mandarin teacher or extracurricular activities provided . Mostly taught in Cantonese. But i believe the english level of primary and secondary schools is very good. They teach in english. Most parents choose spk probably wants to enter its' primary school(though not thro train but around 90+% admission rate). IF u expect to learn gd english and harder courses, spk surely not a gd choice. Many learn english outside. But anyway my daughter studies in it happily and likes spk a lot! Also, spk likes to accept big girl! Hope these information can help you.

作者: Rary 時間: 09-10-3 00:00

Esther,

Sure they accept kids younger than 3 by Sept each year - my daughter was born in Oct. Also in her class there were also 1 or 2 classmates that were smaller than her. My feeling is that big girls do have advantages, but the chances of small girls getting in are not too low either.

If your elder daughter gets into SHK, I believe that the chances for your younger daughter getting in should be pretty high.

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-10-2 11:44 發表
Ian & Rary,

Heard that SHCK K1 takes only kids who reach 3 by Sep each year, may I know if it is true??

Since my big girl is 02/07 while small girl is 09/08, I hope my big girl can "give advantage" ...

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-10-3 11:25

Ian & Rary, thanks again for your response. Coz my strategy is, try to get my big girl into a good school so that I will have less worry about the small girl.

Thanks also to A9109494 about your information about SPK. Other than their English Level, do you know the % of their KG student get into primary school??

Thanks very much!!! :)

作者: iantsang 時間: 09-10-3 23:28

Hi esther.cy,

You are welcome but even though my elder daughter is study in SHCK, I am still very worry about my young one!

By the way, I think A9109494 already mentioned the acceptance rate is normally 90%+ for spk students to SPCS (Primary section).

Ian

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-10-3 11:25 發表
Ian & Rary, thanks again for your response. Coz my strategy is, try to get my big girl into a good school so that I will have less worry about the small girl.

Thanks also to A9109494 about your infor ...

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