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標題: 可以談談培僑與國際學校的異同嗎？ [打印本頁]

作者: 小謙伯伯 時間: 09-6-19 17:20 標題: 可以談談培僑與國際學校的異同嗎？

前些時在《小一選校》欄看到有家長提到培僑說：
a colleague's children study at Pui Kiu, she said it is like an international school.

我請她詳為述說：
Is this remark meant to be complimentary or otherwise? Would you elaborate further?

她回說是同事的評語，具體情況不清楚：
Sorry that I don't have much information about Pui Kiu. It's just my colleague's comment. I guess it refers to the amount of freedom. (not sure)

可否請培僑的家長為我釋疑，具體談談培僑與一般國際學校的異同？相信除鄙人外，這也是很多心儀培僑的家長有興趣認識的。

作者: puikiufriend 時間: 09-6-20 00:04

培僑與國際學校有很大的區別。一般來說國際學校以英語為主，但培僑以雙語教學為主。培訓的學科以中、英、數為主，體育、音樂、視覺藝術及成長課（Social Development）而國際學校就不一樣。當然、英語的口音肯定沒有國際學校這麼好，但普通話就很流利。至於學生的自信心，培僑的小孩是很自信的，紀律性還可以、活躍程度就很活躍。功課方面，培僑的功課一點也不多，甚至有人說比國際學校還要少，而且沒有考試，只有年終評核。還有培僑的學生很開心、很喜歡上學，如果你不讓他上學就是對他最大的懲罰。希望對您有所幫助吧！

原帖由 小謙伯伯 於 09-6-19 17:20 發表
前些時在《小一選校》欄看到有家長提到培僑說：
a colleague's children study at Pui Kiu, she said it is like an international school.

我請她詳為述說：
Is this remark meant to be complimentary or otherwise? ...

作者: piggybank 時間: 09-6-20 10:13

培僑不是國際學校, 只是"國際學校式的課程". 課程內有更多涉及國際視野的內容. 而且學生上學以玩為主, 從玩之中學習. 英文及普通話溝通能力, 比一般的官津學校為高. 但論英文水平, 一定及不上全英教學的國際學校.

作者: 小謙伯伯 時間: 09-6-21 16:11

原帖由 puikiufriend 於 09-6-20 00:04 發表
培僑與國際學校有很大的區別。一般來說國際學校以英語為主，但培僑以雙語教學為主。培訓的學科以中、英、數為主，體育、音樂、視覺藝術及成長課（Social Development）而國際學校就不一樣。當然、英語的口音肯定沒有國際學校 ...

對不起，「體育、音樂、視覺藝術及成長課（Social Development）而國際學校就不一樣。」這句是否漏了什麼？似乎國際學校都頗重視這些科目，培僑不也重視嗎？

一切都太好了，好得幾乎要觸動那自衛機制 (Is it too good to be true?)。對一些家長來說，English native fluency 夢碎，不啻是件憾事。我是英文系出身的，所以更重視自己的 Chineseness. 我認為為要那點 native accent 而失去自己文化活水的源泉，犠牲實在太大了。

你的回覆我最喜歡這句 ─ 「培僑的學生很開心、很喜歡上學，如果你不讓他上學就是對他最大的懲罰。」找學校還夫復何求呢？當然很有幫助，謝謝你。

作者: 小謙伯伯 時間: 09-6-21 16:16

原帖由 piggybank 於 09-6-20 10:13 發表
培僑不是國際學校, 只是"國際學校式的課程". 課程內有更多涉及國際視野的內容. 而且學生上學以玩為主, 從玩之中學習. 英文及普通話溝通能力, 比一般的官津學校為高. 但論英文水平, 一定及不上全英教學的國際學校. ...

看來合哂我的「合尺」(讀[河車])。是否可以一言以蔽之的說，對於嚮往國際學校式課程和學習模式，但又重視子女維持以中文為第一語言多於要求英語達到 native fluency 的家長，培僑是個理想的選擇呢？謝謝你。

作者: puikiufriend 時間: 09-6-22 00:56

这里说培訓的學科以中、英、數為主，辅以體育、音樂、視覺藝術及成長課（Social Development）而國際學校就不一樣。不一样是指以中、英、數為主

原帖由 小謙伯伯 於 09-6-21 16:11 發表

對不起，「體育、音樂、視覺藝術及成長課（Social Development）而國際學校就不一樣。」這句是否漏了什麼？似乎國際學校都頗重視這些科目，培僑不也重視嗎？

一切都太好了，好得幾乎要觸動那自衛機制 (Is it too good to be t ...

作者: piggybank 時間: 09-6-22 14:59

我跟你的想法差不多. 培僑的英文學習, 如家長英文水平不是"有番咁上下", 小朋友未必跟得上. 但是, 如我們送子女去英文學校, 中文反而自己教不到咁高水準. 而外面普通話水平高的學校, 又提供不到像培僑這樣活潑的學習環境. 所以, 我覺得培僑很適合我和我的小朋友.

可唔可以咁講, 係一間精神面貌似國際學校, 但課程(小學)以中文為主導. (中學是英中嘛, 對嗎?)

原帖由 小謙伯伯 於 09-6-21 16:16 發表

看來合哂我的「合尺」(讀[河車])。是否可以一言以蔽之的說，對於嚮往國際學校式課程和學習模式，但又重視子女維持以中文為第一語言多於要求英語達到 native fluency 的家長，培僑是個理想的選擇呢？謝謝你。 ...

作者: mummom 時間: 09-6-23 17:38

培僑的英語一點也不淺，能力高可以進步得好快，能力普通可以學得很開心。英文好，可以跳級學習，我囝囝那班就有幾個由低班上高班上英文課。在課室的英文 reader 分程度，程度高可以看深點的，否則可以看淺點的。很鼓勵閱讀，課程很有趣。　另外，也注重英語的聽和講。　我囝囝就最喜歡上　ｅｎｇｌｉｓｈ　ｄｒａｍａ　課了。除了外籍老師，大部份老師都在英語國家生活過呢！有次講座校長講的。　　另外，專科專教在一般小學很少有。國際學校就不知了！
對不起！　其他家長都叫我「培僑　ｆａｎ』

原帖由 小謙伯伯 於 09-6-21 16:16 發表

看來合哂我的「合尺」(讀[河車])。是否可以一言以蔽之的說，對於嚮往國際學校式課程和學習模式，但又重視子女維持以中文為第一語言多於要求英語達到 native fluency 的家長，培僑是個理想的選擇呢？謝謝你。 ...

作者: mummom 時間: 09-6-23 18:09

培僑很重視體育、音樂、視覺藝術及成長課（Social Development）的。
四年級開始，音樂課是學樂器的；體育課可選專項；視覺藝術是專科老師教，此外，舊年請了陳用博士教書法呢！成長課是初級通識。

原帖由 小謙伯伯 於 09-6-21 16:11 發表

對不起，「體育、音樂、視覺藝術及成長課（Social Development）而國際學校就不一樣。」這句是否漏了什麼？似乎國際學校都頗重視這些科目，培僑不也重視嗎？

一切都太好了，好得幾乎要觸動那自衛機制 (Is it too good to be t ...

作者: bjdadishe 時間: 09-6-23 21:30

我的觀察, 培僑有幾個特點:

1. 普通話非常好, 一般完全沒有學過普通話的學生, 一年級上學期末就能聽懂普通話, 三年級就能很有信心地用普通話交談.

2. 能夠考入培僑的學栍, 英文程度高的學生佔了不少, 可能是家庭背境有關, 也可能是和學校收生準則有關連(胡亂猜度), 無論小一時英文是否很好或很差, 但到了三年級, 就能很有信心用英語交談.

3. 學生一般很開心, 也有不開心的, 我就知道有一個學生小一時很不願意返學, 但現在小三了, 流感停課就很想返學.

4. 學生在學校的自由度較大, 如不能忍受學生跌跌碰碰的, 就可能有點難受, 但客觀結果是培僑的學生都很靈活(但不代表沒禮貌或沒紀律), 不一定是坐定定聽書一聲不吭的孩子.

5. 一般而言, 功課壓力不大. 也不算太少功課, 小一至三的學生, 有些用半小時完成功課, 有些用兩小時來完成功課, 都不可作準, 因為有些學生在小息和食午餐時做了功課.

原帖由 piggybank 於 09-6-22 14:59 發表
我跟你的想法差不多. 培僑的英文學習, 如家長英文水平不是"有番咁上下", 小朋友未必跟得上. 但是, 如我們送子女去英文學校, 中文反而自己教不到咁高水準. 而外面普通話水平高的學校, 又提供不到像培僑這樣活潑的學習 ...

作者: honglish 時間: 09-6-26 01:01

想八一下, 你說:
英文好，可以跳級學習，我囝囝那班就有幾個由低班上高班上英文課。
具體是怎樣跳, 是中文數學和同班同學上, 而英文到高年班上嗎? 那有位置坐?

原帖由 mummom 於 09-6-23 17:38 發表
培僑的英語一點也不淺，能力高可以進步得好快，能力普通可以學得很開心。英文好，可以跳級學習，我囝囝那班就有幾個由低班上高班上英文課。在課室的英文 reader 分程度，程度高可以看深點的，否則可以看淺點的。很鼓勵閱讀，課程很 ...

作者: Heidibaba 時間: 09-6-26 10:33

囡囡班上都有3個同學在上英文課時由三年級跳到四年級上，她說四年級又同時有幾個同學跳到五年級上。學校的安排好像在同一時間同一科目但不同年級的同學都能跳級，這樣的安排在行政上是顯然是相當很麻煩，要同時同地上同一科目，還要同時安排兩個或以上同一專科的老師任教，比跳一級的安排煩複得多。當然不是每個同學所有科目都是優異的，所以我較為欣賞學校這個做法，也覺得學校是以學生為本，寧願增加行政的工作量(編課程表不是一個班的問題，還牽涉到老師教不同級別的問題)。

原帖由 honglish 於 09-6-26 01:01 發表
想八一下, 你說:
英文好，可以跳級學習，我囝囝那班就有幾個由低班上高班上英文課。
具體是怎樣跳, 是中文數學和同班同學上, 而英文到高年班上嗎? 那有位置坐?

...

作者: ononchu 時間: 09-6-26 13:06

Hello Heidibaba

Can you share at what level would the said arrangement apply? Only for students at G3 the earliest?

My child is in G1 and I have not heard from him about the arrangement.

Ononchu

作者: Heidibaba 時間: 09-6-26 18:28

Sorry that I don't know the arrangement of the other forms. I know this arrangement because my daughter is in one of these classes which has such special arrangement.

I don't think this arrangement can be applied in P.1 as the school is unable to know the educational level of the kids. I would think such arrangement can only be able to apply starting from P.2 (the earliest). The teachers will have a better understanding of the subject knowledge of the individual students after one year's teaching and observation.

Heidibaba

原帖由 ononchu 於 09-6-26 13:06 發表
Hello Heidibaba

Can you share at what level would the said arrangement apply? Only for students at G3 the earliest?

My child is in G1 and I have not heard from him about the arrangement.

Ononchu ...

作者: puikiufriend 時間: 09-6-27 02:08

其实从2年级开始已经有这样的安排，而且不只英文，数学也是这样可以跳级上课。座位不成问题，不用担心。

原帖由 Heidibaba 於 09-6-26 18:28 發表
Sorry that I don't know the arrangement of the other forms. I know this arrangement because my daughter is in one of these classes which has such special arrangement.

I don't think this arrangement ...

作者: ononchu 時間: 09-6-30 16:58

Dear Heidibaba & Puikiufriend

Thanks all for your advice.

Ononchu

原帖由 puikiufriend 於 09-6-27 02:08 發表
其实从2年级开始已经有这样的安排，而且不只英文，数学也是这样可以跳级上课。座位不成问题，不用担心。

作者: goldenbaby 時間: 09-7-2 16:07

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作者: sumichow 時間: 09-7-2 17:03

原帖由 goldenbaby 於 09-7-2 16:07 發表
Dear PuiKui fans,

I just wanna to know will the students take the HKCEE and HKAL exam?

As it is flexible learning and much lesser tests and exams than other traditional schools, are the students cap ...

Coming future, no more HKCEE and HKAL exam la.

作者: goldenbaby 時間: 09-7-3 11:51

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作者: natelie 時間: 09-7-3 17:29

My kid will be promoted to G3 next school year, so far, I am very satify with how the school implement their mission to educate the kids, I dare to say their Chinese (PTH) and English are far higher level than others school. Another point is Pui Kiu do not have elite-class system while they will make administration arrangement instead for students with special need including those students that may be too advanced ( may be from the students' ind background or others reason ). What I see is the school really want to bring up every individual students. Of course, it is not a perfect school, some may think the teacher are too young but I think they are also energnetic enough as well.

For the public examinations in future, I am confident they will be very comparable to those elite school. However, please remember PK students is much happier and satified in learning rather that those drive the marks from day 1.

作者: natelie 時間: 09-7-3 17:58

also, I want to say I know some parents may think the school are too loose and the students are too happy and only have fun.. what I experience is the school do have high expectation from parents in aiding ( or guiding ) the learning of their children, the homework load is not really relaxing. Sometimes it is 'much more' than I originally expected. However, these homework are usually task-orientated and those extended work that I think the teachers want to re-inforce the students instead of blindly copying.

作者: puikiufriend 時間: 09-7-3 21:36

Next year will be the last HKCEE.

原帖由 goldenbaby 於 09-7-3 11:51 發表

Do you mean 3/3/4? when will only one public exam in Form 6???

作者: goldenbaby 時間: 09-7-6 14:53

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作者: natelie 時間: 09-7-7 09:52

Hi, Goldenbaby,
As we ( and most of his classmates ) are living not close to the school, my boy seldom join the ECA organised by school. However, what we learnt from the leaflets of these ECA, if for sport programme, most of these are trained by professional trainer ( you know the 前国家隊 member ) which I think the standard is not questionnable. If you are living close to the school, I think it is worth to join for sure.

作者: goldenbaby 時間: 09-7-7 10:09

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作者: natelie 時間: 09-7-7 10:57

Hi, Goldenbaby,
My comment of these ECA :
- Visual Art.  To me, I am very satifactory of this scope and depth of this subject, it's include eastern and western art basic skill training and.  In fact, I have cut the original drawing class for my son starting from P2 as I found what the school provided are even better.
- Sport.  To me, the training by school is very basic and he had attained the basic skills of physical education.  I still put my son to other sport team during weekend for an extra training as myself believe SPORTMANSHIP ( especially team sport ) is VERY important for developing one's personality.
- Music.  Quite like to sport, the training provided by school is very basic and also they give an opportunity for the students to expose to different musical instrument.  I know starting from P3, every student then require to pick an musical instrument as lifelong learning.
- Social Development. This is one of the subject my boy like most.. The coverage of this subject is very wide.  From planting, cooking, social work participiation, excursion etc.  I hardly found any other ECA provided by other centre could provides such wide scope of learning.

My comments are all these ECA provided by school very fundamental and basic where should meet most of the parent's expectation.  The quality of these classes is good as they are 專科專教.  However, whether the parent would like to focus for a specific area depends on the parents own requirement/expectation as well as the children area of talent which are different from one to one.

Hope I answer your questions.

作者: goldenbaby 時間: 09-7-7 11:33

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作者: natelie 時間: 09-7-7 11:42

You are welcome.
Yes, my boy like the school very much. As the school life is so content-rich, he is very 'tired' afterschool every day as he is so focus in learning in fun but really not relaxing way. Therefore, I don't put him to any other afterschool activities ( except weekend ) as he is really 'exhaused'. After finish his homework every day, he prefer reading in those rest time at home.
FYI, my younger son will also start G1 in coming Sept as I hardly find other school that meet 'our' family expectation. Hope your daughter will get in soon.

作者: happyrain 時間: 09-7-7 12:13

Dear Natelie,
Thanks for your detail explannation of the ECA. My daughter will start her G.1 soon and I am anxiously waiting to see how much she enjoys her school life!

原帖由 natelie 於 09-7-7 10:57 發表
Hi, Goldenbaby,
My comment of these ECA :
- Visual Art. To me, I am very satifactory of this scope and depth of this subject, it's include eastern and western art basic skill training and. In fact, ...

作者: jychan 時間: 09-7-9 10:34

Dear Natalie,
Thank you for sharing. My daughter will be in G1 this Aug. I also found Pui Kiu suits the needs of our family. The school visions & approaches meets our expectation.

My daughter is a rather shy & "slow to warm up" girl. Lokking forward she can get build her confident when she starts her school life in Pui Kiu.

jychan

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