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作者: girlsmama 時間: 09-6-16 22:20 標題: Why is DGJS so good?

I always wonder why the everyone keeps telling me that DGJS is so good.
Somebody says to get into DGJS is not for just for good education but more importantly the connection it has to offer. True? Please share

作者: hogwarts 時間: 09-6-16 23:15

1. 收天下之兵器為己用
2. 一套多年持之以恆的好系統
3. 充足財力資源
4. 愈來愈勁的校友网絡

作者: dgjsdad 時間: 09-6-17 00:28 標題: dgjs?

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作者: girlsmama 時間: 09-6-17 13:12

Oh, I see.
But it is so difficult to get in. Extremely competetive.

作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-6-17 13:17

原帖由 girlsmama 於 09-6-17 13:12 發表
Oh, I see.
But it is so difficult to get in. Extremely competetive.

st.cat.----cckg----dgjs----dgs!!!

作者: smartcar 時間: 09-6-17 13:41

because it is so pushed, pushed and pushed.

loser will fell into hell and surviver could success.

作者: mimia810 時間: 09-6-19 10:47 標題: 回覆 2# cwpge1983 的文章

Haha... this's my plan before but already broken the chain when from St. Cat to CCKG, the competition was very keen even 3 years ago. If you're not living that far, I would say DGJS & St. Steven girls are the two best primary schools in HK.

作者: sheepiedad 時間: 09-6-19 16:54

For girls, my personal preferences would be DGJS, Marymount and St Paul's Co-ed.

原帖由 mimia810 於 09-6-19 10:47 發表
Haha... this's my plan before but already broken the chain when from St. Cat to CCKG, the competition was very keen even 3 years ago. If you're not living that far, I would say DGJS & St. Steven girl ...

作者: overview 時間: 09-6-19 18:31

我開頭都以為DGS英文真係好勁, 但係睇完以下debate既比賽playback, 覺得好不外如是啫, 相比St. Joe/La Salle/Shau Kei Wan Government Secondary School, 真係好多local schools 英文比她們更好 !

http://www.singtao.com/debate/html/index_e14.html

原帖由 dgjsdad 於 09-6-17 00:28 發表
the quality of students at DGJS/DGS is very even, and at a high level,
most speak English which is actually very good = or better in my opinion than some of the local "international school" English, o ...

作者: overview 時間: 09-6-19 18:36

如果你係講St. Steven Girls, 即係津校果間...記得最近這校出外做訪問, 學生既行為令人吃驚: 好嘈, 七嘴八舌, 連以前係處讀既師姐都話: 我哋學校以前唔係敢架!??

原帖由 mimia810 於 09-6-19 10:47 發表
Haha... this's my plan before but already broken the chain when from St. Cat to CCKG, the competition was very keen even 3 years ago. If you're not living that far, I would say DGJS & St. Steven girl ...

作者: leschelems 時間: 09-6-19 19:26

我認同首三點，至於第四點，校友無疑是「愈來愈勁」，不過這個網絡是否真的用得著？

原帖由 hogwarts 於 09-6-16 23:15 發表
1. 收天下之兵器為己用
2. 一套多年持之以恆的好系統
3. 充足財力資源
4. 愈來愈勁的校友网絡

作者: Sevendwarfs 時間: 09-6-19 19:32

我又覺得無論學生質素或學校水平﹐St. Stephen Girls' 同DGJS無得比喎﹗

原帖由 mimia810 於 09-6-19 10:47 發表
Haha... this's my plan before but already broken the chain when from St. Cat to CCKG, the competition was very keen even 3 years ago. If you're not living that far, I would say DGJS & St. Steven girl ...

作者: leehoma001 時間: 09-6-19 23:34

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作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-6-20 02:04

真奇怪？？如果祗是找到一位能寫一些英文小說及其他作品出色嘅學生便能分別某某學校嘅英語水平高低，我相信任何一間學校有一個"印度人"嘅學生做代表，都是代表該校是一間英語水平極高嘅學校。又何須喺DGJS裹面尋找呢？況且，祗用一個學生嘅英文作品去評估一間學校優劣，是否恰當呢？

再者，從來祗有DGS嘅學生及家長push and give pressure比學校，而學校更衹會鼓勵學生作多方面發展，而非祗重課堂成績嘅"書呆子"。至於所謂嘅"exam machine"就代表你對DGJS/DGS嘅認識程度有幾深?

作者: leehoma001 時間: 09-6-20 10:52

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作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-6-20 12:08

leehoma001:
"此言差矣!!誰說"印度人" 英文一定是好的。即使母語是英語也不是代表英文一定是好, 只可肯定英語會話沒有問題，你是否明白如此簡單而基本的道理及羅輯呢?" Ah,連最基本嘅"我手寫我口"嘅基本道理都唔明，又何必講羅輯呢？

"如果你能有多一點 common sense, 就會明白制度會影晌人嘅行為 (意思是 DGS/DGJS 學校做成的, 明白未?), 身處某種制度下，就要順應制度下求生，除非選擇離開"    你終於都明白這個道理，恭喜！恭喜！制度喺香港特區政府制定唔係DGJS/DGS制定。

"平庸嘅學生就十分可憐及無助" 真係廢語連篇，既是平庸嘅學生，你希望佢地代表學校或港隊出外比賽? 平庸嘅學生咪選擇平庸嘅學校囉。咁請間，平庸嘅學生係top international schools可以怎樣生存？學生自己唔肯努力上進，學校可以怎樣？  或者，在你傍觀者角度下可否提供SPCC怎樣train up 平庸嘅學讓BK家長開開眼界，或讓其它學校借鏡借鏡一吓。

"DGS 所訓練出來嘅學生普遍給人嘅印像是, too aggressive & too arrogant"       有能力往上爬就緊係要aggressive and confident 啦，難度身人哋上司嘅你都唔明白? 現今社會，唔aggressive嘅人早已被社會淘汰了！

作者: bobbbby 時間: 09-6-20 12:32

你對DGJS/DGS嘅認識程度，大家都好清楚，都係聽BK網上傳聞同靠估~~~

曾有 BK家長從親屬口中發覺 DGJS 灌輸扭曲嘅最基本價值觀, 絕對不能接受 (註:我不清楚詳情因那BK家長不肯再透露, 但那 BK家長嘅言行一向都得到好多BK家長認同)。

DGS 所訓練出來嘅學生普遍給人嘅印像是, too aggressive & too arrogant，所以不受男仕歡迎, 因此最終嫁不出嘅比率遠比其他女校高 (這只是聽聞, 我沒有實則證據)。

原帖由 leehoma001 於 09-6-20 10:52 發表
首先，我當然明白找到一位能寫一些英文小說及其他作品出色嘅學生並不能完全分別某某學校嘅英語水平高低，我只是質疑 dgjsdad 聲稱 DGJS 嘅英文水評 = or better in myopinion than some of the local "international sch ...

作者: NatalieMaMa 時間: 09-6-20 20:38

原帖由 leehoma001 於 09-6-19 23:34 發表
DGJS/DGS 無疑是一間在考試成績方面很優秀嘅本地學校, 亦有一些很優秀嘅學生。

但講到the whole class is top quality則不敢苟同, 其實與其他名校一樣have a handful of elite students with good results,but a lo ...

雖然我對呢間小學唔係認識好深, 但我相信你的說話不無道理, 我有朋友係EDB 資優教育組做inspector, 佢team同事去過所有小學視學, 佢話所有傳統名校都係谷, 仲係谷得好緊要嗰隻, 唯一能夠做到愉快學習, 沒有壓力, 自主學習, 提高學生學習興趣, 又能維持學生高質數水準的, 就是St Paul co-ed, 所以佢安排佢d仔女讀英基...

另外, 我同事個表妹考入DGS, 全家都引以為傲, 可是, 個女仔入讀後個人變得好攻利, 好現實, 又睇唔起其他人, 經常show off, 如去同學隻遊艇度參加生日會等...攪到d親戚都怕晒佢, 佢係親戚面前自大, 但面對同學唔知會唔會自卑呢? 因為佢始終唔係嗰個階層嘅人, 又唔係DGJS小學直升, 不過可能呢個係萬中無一嘅case...

作者: rtam 時間: 09-6-21 08:22

講多D St.Stephen Girls得唔得?我住港島區,選擇不多,St.Stephen Girls, St.Paul's Convert, Mary Mount似乎就是St.Paul's Co-edu之後的選擇.

原帖由 overview 於 09-6-19 18:36 發表
如果你係講St. Steven Girls, 即係津校果間...記得最近這校出外做訪問, 學生既行為令人吃驚: 好嘈, 七嘴八舌, 連以前係處讀既師姐都話: 我哋學校以前唔係敢架!??

...

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作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-6-21 10:09

[quote]原帖由 NatalieMaMa 於 09-6-20 20:38 發表

DGS=="好攻利, 好現實, 又睇唔起其他人, 經常show off"++too aggressive,too arrogant,too confident.家長們應否三思三思?????

用教統局的方法, 一人感染,全校停課!

作者: Bee_168 時間: 09-6-21 11:38

聽聞dgjs收生只睇家庭背景，唔睇學生，係唔係真架？

作者: Lower_Primary 時間: 09-6-22 14:05

sorry, deleted

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作者: Lower_Primary 時間: 09-6-22 14:08

Sorry, duplicated.

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作者: leschelems 時間: 09-6-22 14:58

如果你的問題真的只是＂只睇＂和＂唔睇＂，我都可以答你。真的有家境清貧的學生在女小拔讀書。

你的問題是否ＤＧＪＳ收生偏向有相當家庭背境？還是家境差的學生是否遭到歧視？

原帖由 Bee_168 於 09-6-21 11:38 發表
聽聞dgjs收生只睇家庭背景，唔睇學生，係唔係真架？

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作者: judy 時間: 09-6-22 15:18

我有朋友係EDB 資優教育組做inspector, 佢team同事去過所有小學視學

首先，請帮我向你的朋友及佢隊同事致敬，真係想唔到今時今日仍有咁勤力之政府員工，全港小學都去過視學，真不簡單。

其次，既然已視過學，麻煩快一點推出報告，依家一年得五間小學左右的視學報告公佈，太少了，記得97年前，一年有將近20家視學報告推出的。

最後，你的朋友及佢隊同事出的時公幣。要知道，納稅人的血汗錢粒粒辛苦，他們視過學，而將所得收收埋埋，据為已有，作為自已子女選校的参考，實在太沒良心、太失職了。

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作者: Reximom 時間: 09-6-22 15:32

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作者: judy 時間: 09-6-22 15:38

那個就讀國際校之超能子篇作文真係唔簡單。抵佢得戚。

作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-6-23 03:20 標題: 回覆 26# Reximom 的文章

其實 leehoma001 = wisekid2007 = christf

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作者: dgjsdad 時間: 09-6-24 00:38 標題: 回覆 16# cwpge1983 的文章

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作者: weiwei 時間: 09-6-24 10:52

Parents' backup is important e.g. private tutors, eca.

原帖由 girlsmama 於 09-6-16 22:20 發表
I always wonder why the everyone keeps telling me that DGJS is so good.
Somebody says to get into DGJS is not for just for good education but more importantly the connection it has to offer. True? Ple ...

作者: nintendo 時間: 09-6-30 17:58

The messages posted by one of the parents merely confirm my impressions of DGJS. Arrogance and ignorance.
How many people have you met from other local elite schools? How many people have you met from top international schools like HKIS and GSIS?
How can you be so sure DGJS/DGS are indeed that good?
I have close relative that have a child in the school. What I see is that, sorry to be direct, they are in fact not as good in terms of English and other areas too, when compared to other local elite schools. I am not even comparing to international schools.
I can see that many DGJS/DGS parents and children are so absorbed in their own little well. They believe they are the best. Well, I am sure some of them are indeed amongst the best; but the world is not that small.
I think it is good to be confident, which is just a bit away from being arrogance.
In any case, it is really entertaining to see that on BK. Having heard so many real life incidents from my relative, I see she is not exagerating.
Oh, BTW, my relative has found a very good international school for her child. She is fed up with the people at DGJS. Although she like most of the teachers and staff, to be honest, she just do not think the general environment at the school is normal or healthy.

作者: nintendo 時間: 09-6-30 18:02

原帖由 overview 於 09-6-19 18:31 發表
我開頭都以為DGS英文真係好勁, 但係睇完以下debate既比賽playback, 覺得好不外如是啫, 相比St. Joe/La Salle/Shau Kei Wan Government Secondary School, 真係好多local schools 英文比她們更好 !

DGS is a very arrogant school. Parents are arrogant, kids (even at P1) are arrogant. Do you think they would admit that there are other people or school that can be better than them?

作者: nintendo 時間: 09-6-30 18:05

原帖由 leschelems 於 09-6-22 14:58 發表
如果你的問題真的只是＂只睇＂和＂唔睇＂，我都可以答你。真的有家境清貧的學生在女小拔讀書。

你的問題是否ＤＧＪＳ收生偏向有相當家庭背境？還是家境差的學生是否遭到歧視？

DGJS would of course not only accept children with good background.
They always PURPOSELY take a few children with ordinary background every year. Reasons? You guess.
The problems are, see whether you are one of these "chosen" ones. And see whether your kid survive.

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作者: junior_pam 時間: 09-6-30 21:02

Most of girls in DGJS are undoubtedly from well-off family while it is also right that a few or some of girls are from the grass-rooted family. Why so?
Do you know why DGJS always won this sports or that sports, this tournament or that tournament? It is because it selects all the elite students in paritcular sports or other top specific performance from all over the Hong Kong schools every year.
I believe that it has scholarship policy for the talented girls from grass-rooted family. Some girls are specializing in sport while some girls are specializing in academic performance.
My friend told me that most of outstanding girls in sports are transferred from other primary schools.
Just sharing and no other intention, maybe it is a trend to do so.

原帖由 nintendo 於 09-6-30 18:05 發表

DGJS would of course not only accept children with good background.
They always PURPOSELY take a few children with ordinary background every year. Reasons? You guess.
The problems are, see whether y ...

作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-6-30 21:47

"My friend told me " , "在傍觀者角度下 " and "I have close relative"

means what???

作者: Cara2006 時間: 09-6-30 23:14

原帖由 cwpge1983 於 09-6-30 21:47 發表
"My friend told me " , "在傍觀者角度下 " and "I have close relative" means what???

What if I say "my daughter", "my niece"... etc?
Are you going to trust me?

Or even better, register the login name "real-dgs-parent" and then post messages.

It is quite interesting that some people selectively challenge the creditbility of certain people, while they believe without doubt others.

It appears that any negative comments are not allowed, while positive comments are believed totally.

That is DGS/DGJS. Parents, see for yourself.

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作者: Cara2006 時間: 09-6-30 23:26

wisekid2007, where are you?
Come and speak more about your views.
We all love being lectured.

作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-7-1 02:11 標題: 回覆 37# Cara2006 的文章

What if I say "my daughter", "my niece"... etc?
Are you going to trust me?

何解，大部份對女拔有意見及批評嘅家長其子女都來自國際學校 or so called "Top Elite int'l school"

再者，道聽途說又怎可作實呢？無謂口舌之爭到此為止，不作爭辯！

作者: leschelems 時間: 09-7-1 11:29

I see you have a very firm opinion on their student admission strategy. Is it a mere speculation, an inference based on the abundance of successful parents or something else?

原帖由 nintendo 於 09-6-30 18:05 發表

DGJS would of course not only accept children with good background.
They always PURPOSELY take a few children with ordinary background every year. Reasons? You guess.
The problems are, see whether y ...

作者: nintendo 時間: 09-7-7 13:56

原帖由 cwpge1983 於 09-7-1 02:11 發表

何解，大部份對女拔有意見及批評嘅家長其子女都來自國際學校 or so called "Top Elite int'l school"

You are contradicting yourself.

So do you mean we should trust what we say we are?

Who are parents of international schools?
Do you want to trust what they claim to be?

Or are you choosing what you want to believe in, in order to make yourself feel better?

作者: leehoma001 時間: 09-7-7 16:45

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作者: leschelems 時間: 09-7-7 17:33

大體上leehoma001所提及的都有道理。

直資學校的教學自由度無疑是較官津校高，但學校如不想跟從教育局的一些方向，仍須獲教育局的批準。

你們還提及了「平庸學生」在女拔（我所指包括了ＤＧＳ和ＤＧＪＳ）的生活，有可能受到歧視及遭放棄，而在國際學校卻得到包容和鼓勵。

我不知此極端情況是否普遍，如果有女拔的學生和家長，請大家指教一下。不過，從錄取學生來說，女拔的確要求嚴格。如果和leehoma001的國際學校相比，可以說是兩種理念。究竟應該嚴格選擇學生，使學校裏的學生差異少，方便「因材施教」，還是不論能力（英語能力以外）收生，在學校裏提倡「有教無類」？

原帖由 leehoma001 於 09-7-7 16:45 發表
想唔話你無知都唔得

Ah,連最基本嘅"我手寫我口"嘅基本道理都唔明，又何必講羅輯呢？

你知不知乜叫做"文盲", 如果唔知, 快啲去租翻隻 "The Reader" 看看啦! 現今, 在印度 (包括在美國、中國及很多地方) 還有很多文盲, ...

作者: leehoma001 時間: 09-7-7 17:51

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作者: leschelems 時間: 09-7-7 18:17

我不是說學校沒有自由度，我是說不是所有東西都完全有自由度。

既然國際學校都有兩種理念，它們都應有存在的價值。只不過，究竟你從哪裏得出結論，女拔有歧視及放棄某些學生，而你所指國際學校從來沒有？

原帖由 leehoma001 於 09-7-7 17:51 發表
直資學校的教學自由度無疑是較官津校高，但學校如不想跟從教育局的一些方向，仍須獲教育局的批準。

教育局不會阻止直資學校或私校推行真正一條龍辦學的, 教育局也不會阻止學校不去 screen off 學生的, 所以那些直資學校 ...

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作者: leehoma001 時間: 09-7-7 19:36

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作者: cwpge1983 時間: 09-7-9 02:04 標題: 回覆 42# leehoma001 的文章

本來見你為咗你個高B低能嘅傻仔絞到自己痴痴呆呆又成日改名化身，說東說西，都想放你一馬。呀！原來你真係神經失常到無藥可救。

1)"他們連睇都未識睇, 仲何來"我手寫我口" 你知唔知自己之前講緊mud? 文盲都起馬識講呀，如果連講都唔識而又寫得好文章嘅，衹有同係leehoma001同一類人"啞巴"。
2)"平庸嘅學生係top international schools 一樣生存得好開心、好有自信, 因為他們明白自己嘅能力, 以超越自己為目標, 而又不會受老師或其他 top students 嘅歧視及放棄。" 呢Ｄ假，大，空嘅語調同我哋嘅特首講話一樣。結果，七一上街囉。

3)"女拔有歧視及放棄某些學生 - 這個已是公開嘅事實, 你可從女拔現在或以前嘅學生、家長、或老師去証實, 當然要去問多幾個啦, 我自己都認識不少" 你有本事就講個實例出嚟喺邊個學生，邊個老師，点樣受歧視，点樣被放棄？

同你D鬼鬼祟祟又經常改名換姓嘅'啞巴'係到浪費時間，真係要同自己講聲"對唔住"

作者: edea 時間: 09-7-10 01:14

很遺憾看到這個主題會員都沒有太尊重對方, 現把主題關上, 請大家日後討論時要保持禮貌和尊重, 多謝合作.

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