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標題: ST Catherine 對兒童照顧不足 [打印本頁]
作者: Minniechung 時間: 09-5-12 00:25 標題: ST Catherine 對兒童照顧不足
今年我女女將會九月讀K1, 我朋友同我講, 佢個仔仔係ST CAT 已讀左一年, 今年升K2. 佢叫我CONSIDER 清楚讀唔讀, 甘我就問佢乜野事啦. 佢話, 佢個仔O係學校校跌過幾次, 番到屋企先發現個頭受傷, 問過班主任. 佢竟然發現唔到, 答我朋友話留意唔到, 不過下次會留意番.
第二次, 一個小組活動, 一個老師睇住十幾個學生. 佢個仔離開班房時, 已著錯鞋, 因著得好導致成日跌, 亦無老師發現. 搭校車媽咪接先發現.
我覺得哩D過失唔應該羅. 有D學校對家長既投訴都好緊張的, 但ST CAT 就好懶懶閒. 甘樣係咪好有問題呢. 我都有D擔心.
作者: kerkermui 時間: 09-5-12 09:39
thanks for your information..
真係好唔細心喎!
作者: 仔仔錫錫你 時間: 09-5-12 09:57
好多幼稚園經常都有呢d情況出現, 你朋友小見多怪姐, 而且呢d係同幼稚園無咩關係, 只係老師唔夠細心.
另外, 跌親無流血係好難即時發現, 通常要一段時間"於"血先會浮出來, 所以老師發現唔到亦係正常.
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作者: clarasun 時間: 09-5-13 00:02
I don't know how to type in chinese, and my english is not that good, I try my best to express what I want to say...
I pass st. cat this afternoon around 3:15, I saw about more than 10 little child sit on a little chair just outside the school which is beside of driveway. and I saw just only one teacher to take care them. I'm driving at that time. When I see it, I feel scare and slow down the car. I think if just one of that child is naughty and walk or run few step, they will fall on the driveway. it's quite dangerous.
i'm wondering are the child waiting their parent to pick them up or they are attending class?
作者: bbirene 時間: 09-5-13 07:54
I also saw them, they were drawing might be drawing the cars. But I also think that it's too dangerous.
作者: Yanamami 時間: 09-5-13 09:32
They were counting different vehicles that passed the Kindergarten. Learning statistics. They have been doing the same thing many years ago. I think they fulfill the Educational Dept. requirement of 1 teacher to 10 students ratio.
原帖由 clarasun 於 09-5-13 00:02 發表 
I don't know how to type in chinese, and my english is not that good, I try my best to express what I want to say...
I pass st. cat this afternoon around 3:15, I saw about more than 10 little child ...
作者: Minniechung 時間: 09-5-13 19:04
我諗亦係老師方面既問題. 唔關學校事. 但個老師同我朋友講話留意唔到, 我女女讀緊維記, 佢一跌倒學校就即刻打電話俾我, 仲緊張過我, ST CAT 都係有名學校. 我覺得除左學術要教得好外. 都要留意下小朋友.
作者: HebeMama630 時間: 09-5-13 23:57
我個小朋友响荃灣讀緊N,每次佢跌親,事後有冇明顯傷痕都會話我知嫁!
作者: Minniechung 時間: 09-5-14 00:06
原帖由 HebeMama630 於 09-5-13 23:57 發表
我個小朋友响荃灣讀緊N,每次佢跌親,事後有冇明顯傷痕都會話我知嫁!
我個重點就係一D唔太出名既KINDER, 學校都會即時通知父母. 我係度提出哩個題目, 係想讀ST CAT 媽咪留意下哩方面, 亦俾學校有少少壓力.
作者: howo 時間: 09-5-15 12:30
Agree, 除左學術要教得好外. 都要留意下小朋友
原帖由 Minniechung 於 09-5-13 19:04 發表
我諗亦係老師方面既問題. 唔關學校事. 但個老師同我朋友講話留意唔到, 我女女讀緊維記, 佢一跌倒學校就即刻打電話俾我, 仲緊張過我, ST CAT 都係有名學校. 我覺得除左學術要教得好外. 都要留意下小朋友. ...
作者: jk923 時間: 09-5-15 16:01
原帖由 Yanamami 於 09-5-13 09:32 發表
They were counting different vehicles that passed the Kindergarten. Learning statistics. They have been doing the same thing many years ago. I think they fulfill the Educational Dept. requirement of 1 teacher to 10 students ratio.
作者: beetoy 時間: 09-5-15 17:14
Minnie,
My daughter also going to St. Cat this Sept for K1. To be honest my expectation is very low for this school regarding giving individual attention to kids. My perception is that this is a big famous factory producing lots of good (academic) products every year to good primary schools. Nevertheless as parents we should keep the bar high and keep the pressure up for the school in terms of our expectation to them. We must do it collectively, as individual effort is not strong enough.
I wonder if there are PTA at St. Cat? Do want to be a member of these groups in order to voice out these concerns.
On contrary, other types of schools like Victoria really pay attention to each individual's development and safety..
作者: Minniechung 時間: 09-5-15 18:23
原帖由 beetoy 於 09-5-15 17:14 發表
Minnie,
My daughter also going to St. Cat this Sept for K1. To be honest my expectation is very low for this school regarding giving individual attention to kids. My perception is that this is a big ...
BEETOY,
其實我都好擔心照顧既問題. 訓練小朋友有一定的獨立和自理能力係好的, 太過照顧和保護唔係一件好事. 但做為父母的. 最唔想係小朋友O係學校受左傷, 而無第一時間知道或老師不知情的情形發生. ST CAT 唯一我想要的, 係佢派小學好. 跟得上傳統的小學. 不過, 我都會俾佢讀住先. 如果今年開學不久有甘既情況發生, 我就會俾壓力學, 但其他父母商議. 所以今次係到俾大家父母做個REF, & 留意.
仲有一件事, 近排既豬流感. 各地方及學校都會做定好多措施, 但我朋友話, 佢同班主任講左好多次, 痳煩老師幫佢個仔帶上MASK. 個老師都無做到. 洗手方面亦唔係好多. 哩方我都只係聽我朋友講, 我無親眼見到, 所以都不能全信.
希望各位家長KEEP 住 聯絡
作者: Mqchris 時間: 09-5-15 20:01
我有個朋友都係今年讀k1--st.cat...同樣，覺我照顧不週... 跌倒無老師打電話來報告，這也算了..但連小朋友情緒唔好，唔適應、都無老師理...
不過, 學大家話頭，老牌名校...無計，咪照讀囉...當然，佢又真係谷到小朋友、學到野，適應到的就開開心心囉...
但我個人認為名校重左力谷，大工作量，要協調，咪令到老師無心思及時間再去應乎個別小朋友的需要囉... 大家想，假若入去的小朋友是有特別學習需要的，那點呢...自生自滅..?? 學術vs照顧..真的值得家長自己心思的問題
[ 本帖最後由 Mqchris 於 09-5-15 20:02 編輯 ]
作者: hongchung 時間: 09-5-15 21:02
原帖由 Yanamami 於 09-5-13 09:32 發表
They were counting different vehicles that passed the Kindergarten. Learning statistics. They have been doing the same thing many years ago. I think they fulfill the Educational Dept. requirement o ...
咁的學校都有，幾歲大坐在街邊食塵數車？？？學統計？當時空氣污染指數是幾多？坐在馬路邊數車對幾歲大的幼稚園生好嗎？
你証明年年做即是佢學校唔改善，年年去食塵，吸毒氣，不知進取，每年因循做乜就做乜。點解無家長投訴校方的？正如上面有版友話，校外一個老師帶著10個幾歲大的細路，有個細路見到自己喜歡的貨櫃車而突然衝出馬路如何？
[ 本帖最後由 hongchung 於 09-5-15 21:08 編輯 ]
作者: hongchung 時間: 09-5-15 21:12
原帖由 Mqchris 於 09-5-15 20:01 發表 我有個朋友都係今年讀k1--st.cat...同樣，覺我照顧不週... 跌倒無老師打電話來報告，這也算了..但連小朋友情緒唔好，唔適應、都無老師理...
不過, 學大家話頭，老牌名校...無計，咪照讀囉...當然，佢又真係谷到小朋友、學到野，適應到的就開開心心囉...
但我個人認為名校重左力谷，大工作量，要協調，咪令到老師無心思及時間再去應乎個別小朋友的需要囉... 大家想，假若入去的小朋友是有特別學習需要的，那點呢...自生自滅..?? 學術vs照顧..真的值得家長自己心思的問題
請問St. Cat 有乜學術見得人？好過人？
有乜幼稚園學界學術上佢學校得獎？佢學校演說？佢校長有演講？
作者: Minniechung 時間: 09-5-15 21:28
原帖由 hongchung 於 09-5-15 21:12 發表
請問St. Cat 有乜學術見得人？好過人？
有乜幼稚園學界學術上佢學校得獎？佢學校演說？佢校長有演講？
其實我都唔知架. 學校有乜學術好, 只係有朋友和親戚D仔女讀過話好, 好的係小朋友自立, 唔依賴, 名小學鍾意ST CAT 的學生等等. 不過, 我都會照俾女女讀. 開頭開學一個月我會番學校觀察下教師和學生學習既情況.
作者: rainbowbb 時間: 09-5-15 22:44
原帖由 Minniechung 於 09-5-15 21:28 發表
其實我都唔知架. 學校有乜學術好, 只係有朋友和親戚D仔女讀過話好, 好的係小朋友自立, 唔依賴, 名小學鍾意ST CAT 的學生等等. 不過, 我都會照俾女女讀. 開頭開學一個月我會番學校觀察下教師和學生學習既情 ...
如果咁唔想讀就選擇第二間, 中途轉學唔易
作者: rainbowbb 時間: 09-5-15 22:48
學校有出通告給家長可選擇做或唔做?食塵?條街少車過銅鑼灣/旺角, 係銅鑼灣/旺角行街和等車咪仲食塵
原帖由 hongchung 於 09-5-15 21:02 發表
咁的學校都有，幾歲大坐在街邊食塵數車？？？學統計？當時空氣污染指數是幾多？坐在馬路邊數車對幾歲大的幼稚園生好嗎？
你証明年年做即是佢學校唔改善，年年去食塵，吸毒氣，不知進取，每年因循做乜就做乜。點解無家長投訴校方的？正如上 ...
[ 本帖最後由 rainbowbb 於 09-5-15 22:49 編輯 ]
作者: Yanamami 時間: 09-5-16 10:14
Parents filled in a form before and agreed to let their kids attend this special activity. If many parents agree that this activity is OK for many years, I think it's quite fine and the Kindergarten should keep doing it. In other words, if the Kindie keeps doing it for many years, it means no/ not many parents complained about it. If the parent thinks it is dangerous and bad for the kid's health, he/she may not allow the kid join the activity by filling the form.
It means the kids are well behaved and know what's the purpose of that activity. They are very unlikely to rush out of the road or do anything that's dangerous. I'm sure the Kindie would assess the suitability of such activity. If it's dangerous, it won't take the risk to hold such activity as it has to be responsible for the kids' safety.
原帖由 hongchung 於 09-5-15 21:02 發表
咁的學校都有，幾歲大坐在街邊食塵數車？？？學統計？當時空氣污染指數是幾多？坐在馬路邊數車對幾歲大的幼稚園生好嗎？
你証明年年做即是佢學校唔改善，年年去食塵，吸毒氣，不知進取，每年因循做乜就做乜。點解無家長投訴校方的？正如上 ...
[ 本帖最後由 Yanamami 於 09-5-16 10:16 編輯 ]
作者: Mqchris 時間: 09-5-16 11:38
學校出通告問家長是否同意... 講真有邊個會真的反對.. 不反對的原因可能是怕唔比參與，咁自己小朋友好特出及到時無得玩怕自己小朋友唔開心，另外，可能真的不知人手比例及詳細的情況...
我就反而覺我學校應該想下.. 如真的要數車呀..畫車又好呀... 可以用下其他的方法... 坐路邊確實對太細的小朋友不好，亦有風險，如果唔係點會出通告，將「同意」這比個責任交返比家長...
st.cat小學好唔好真的唔知. 不過我都有知道st.cat仔, 一間心儀的直資小學(一般那些)考不到...
作者: Yanamami 時間: 09-5-16 15:09
There is really no pressure to join / not to join any activity at the Kindie. My daughter didn't join the Ocean Park outing due to some reason and no one felt uncomfortable about it. I suppose if the current parents are comfortable with the Kindie, it's fine. If not, they will certainly reflect their concern to the Kindie.
原帖由 Mqchris 於 09-5-16 11:38 發表
學校出通告問家長是否同意... 講真有邊個會真的反對.. 不反對的原因可能是怕唔比參與，咁自己小朋友好特出及到時無得玩怕自己小朋友唔開心，另外，可能真的不知人手比例及詳細的情況...
我就反而覺我學校應該想下.. 如真 ...
作者: BH_2 時間: 09-5-16 23:47
我個仔 n1 (朗思) 都有一節在街邊數車, 朗思(LT)的位置在內街, 我又唔覺得太危險, st. Cat 就近路邊D. 但st cat 最細都 k1, 應該比 n1 的仲定d. 只要安全, 我又覺得此些活動幾好, 幾生動.
我個仔今年都會入 st. cat K1, 不過我都不期望st.cat 好似朗思可以照顧得好, 始終學校大. 所以小朋友要多學習照顧自己.
考小學方面, 學校不是一切, 何況只是番3小時.. 其實已選 st. cat的家長都心中有數選st. cat 的原因. 香港不同的學校有不同的賣點, 我唔覺得入左st cat 會好巴閉, 只是覺得相對. 選一間比較合自己孩子的性格及我們期望他發展的方向.
作者: Yanamami 時間: 09-5-17 13:17
Agreed with BH_2.
Btw, they are K2 students.
原帖由 BH_2 於 09-5-16 23:47 發表
我個仔 n1 (朗思) 都有一節在街邊數車, 朗思(LT)的位置在內街, 我又唔覺得太危險, st. Cat 就近路邊D. 但st cat 最細都 k1, 應該比 n1 的仲定d. 只要安全, 我又覺得此些活動幾好, 幾生動.
我個仔今年都會入 st. c ...
作者: Chumeiying 時間: 09-5-17 21:44
Dear all,
I think one reason for education is to learn what is appropriate behaviour.
We do not need to keep danger away from the kids if the kids know what danger is.
St Catherine is an ideal school if you wish to let go all the unnecessary protection and worries and trust the kids will be educated to be a sensible individual.
作者: Yanamami 時間: 09-5-18 08:18
原帖由 Chumeiying 於 09-5-17 21:44 發表
Dear all,
I think one reason for education is to learn what is appropriate behaviour.
We do not need to keep danger away from the kids if the kids know what danger is.
St Catherine is an ideal schoo ...
作者: joeyma 時間: 09-5-18 13:19
我個囡囡讀ST CAT. 雖然我唔知照顧成點，但只知我個囡好鍾意返學，又好鍾意佢班主任。咁我已經覺得好足夠。
作者: puibpuib 時間: 09-5-18 17:10
我個囝黎緊會入讀St. Cat K1..雖然預左一班好多人,但係我覺得學校/老師都應該有責任細心留意小朋友的行為（有無受傷）情緒（係咪適應學校生活，有無異常情緒)。我唔覺得學術好就等於要”預左”犠牲呢樣野喎...
如果係個別老師的問題還算吧,但如果是學校的方針是這樣我覺得有問題。
但唔知St. Cat在回應家長投訴呢方面係認真對待定敷衍了事?
[ 本帖最後由 puibpuib 於 09-5-18 17:12 編輯 ]
作者: beetoy 時間: 09-5-18 18:28
Agree. This is a kindergarten not a university. Kids attending St. Cat are just normal kids who are vulnerable and needs proper attention.
Dont think the strong academic background is an excuse for not giving normal proper attention to kids' safety, such as keeping an eye on the kids and report any injury to the parents.
作者: qingbb 時間: 09-5-24 00:27
我女兒讀St Cat，以下是親身經歷：
上星期，女兒在課室跌倒，之後乘校車回家，我們甫進家門，即收到老師來電，告知情況和道歉。
女兒黑皮鞋的魔術貼失效，老師主動提醒我，以免發生危險。共兩次（兩對皮鞋）。
開學不久，老師即注意到女兒的小毛病，主動致電給我了解情況。
女兒主要乘搭校車，我間中親自接送，遇見老師，老師都很樂意跟我傾談。
[ 本帖最後由 qingbb 於 09-5-24 00:29 編輯 ]
作者: 鎧惠 時間: 09-6-6 22:14
原帖由 Mqchris 於 09-5-16 11:38 AM 發表
學校出通告問家長是否同意... 講真有邊個會真的反對.. 不反對的原因可能是怕唔比參與，咁自己小朋友好特出及到時無得玩怕自己小朋友唔開心，另外，可能真的不知人手比例及詳細的情況...
我就反而覺我學校應該想下.. 如真 ...
我2個小朋友都讀SC，大的今年畢業，這活動已多年，據我了解，她們會將小朋友分成幾組，每組大約5-8人，由一個老師一個校工帶着，目的是訓練小朋友觀察環境，學習統計、分類和合作精神，可能你哋會話學呢Ｄ嘢可以用其他方法，這樣會有危險，其實這活動會在K2進行，小朋友在SC訓練已一年，而且班主任對自己班的小朋友好清楚，若認為會有危險，如班裏有比較頑皮的小朋友，會事前特別向該小朋友作多次解釋，再請班裏一位比較定和乖的同學和他一組，用互相合作為理由，讓他在責任下定定哋做完個報告。
其實SC一向是互動式教學，小朋友做project多，佢哋慣咗不用坐定，一向他們的自制能力都唔錯，唔需要像看牛仔般對待，這種training亦是SC學生一般都不會太怕羞和大方得體的原因，這當然亦有例外，但作為一個SC學生家長，SC對照顧小朋友方面，大致上我不覺有問題，但如以上家長的情況，我從未聽過，若真有其事，我反而覺得家長要和學校如實反影，才能令學校精益求精，照我所知，SC明年會在課程上有Ｄ改革，相信只要你由衷表達意見，學校唔會唔理的，這樣亦能令大家一同成長，這位家長的小朋友既然已在SC讀書，我真心地希望你能和學校携手令SC的學生繼承一貫傳統，繼續成為一向以來公認的傳統名校，為自己的小朋友能成為SC的學生而自豪。
最後，閣下提及有SC仔無一間直資學校收，我不會奇怪，因為學校叻唔叻根本不是用這樣作標準，小朋友叻唔叻更加不是用這樣作標準，只有家長才能對自己的小朋友作出評價，究竟學校對自己小朋友的訓練，是否已令自己小朋友成長了不少？而自己是否能在各面配合？只有我們自己最清楚。
作者: kwklam 時間: 09-6-8 00:10
yes, I heard that my friend's gal studied K1, didn't attend school for a week coz sick (sent to hospital), teacher didn't phone the family at all
作者: 鎧惠 時間: 09-6-8 00:35
原帖由 kwklam 於 09-6-8 12:10 AM 發表
yes, I heard that my friend's gal studied K1, didn't attend school for a week coz sick (sent to hospital), teacher didn't phone the family at all
我細女的同学在早前亦有手足口病，當時班主任並無即時通知家長，只在放學後發通告，因為我是自己送返學的，所以我比較早知道，當時知道學校立即清潔、消毒班房，但我礙於此病有７天潜伏期，所以女兒都沒上學好几天，在這几天內，真的再有一個小朋友發病，這件事上，SC確有未完善的地方，我亦有向學反影，這正是我覺得我們家長應有的態度，才能令學校更趨完善。
作者: Minniechung 時間: 09-6-10 23:04
原帖由 kwklam 於 09-6-8 00:10 發表
yes, I heard that my friend's gal studied K1, didn't attend school for a week coz sick (sent to hospital), teacher didn't phone the family at all
小朋友無番一個星期學校都唔俾個電話, 甘的確有少許過份. 我女女在某間番緊. 無番一日, 學校即刻打哩, 實必問有無發燒, 咳, 或流鼻水.
作者: mmmmm 時間: 09-6-20 08:56
SC is not a good school. I really feel disappointed after my son studied there. His English teacher only attend the class ~15-20 each day. And most important thing is: his so call NET teacher always sick leave. Her attendence is at most 50%. Most of the English was teached by the chinese teacher or relieving NET.
SC is very commercial and there is really no garrantee on Primary.
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