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作者: YvonneEddy 時間: 09-4-27 13:36 標題: 蘇浙 am / pm 分別

請問蘇淅上午班及下午班的課程有無分別？同埋，係咪有外籍小朋友呢？通常上午定下午班？

作者: GIPW 時間: 09-4-27 21:52

原帖由 YvonneEddy 於 09-4-27 13:36 發表
請問蘇淅上午班及下午班的課程有無分別？同埋，係咪有外籍小朋友呢？通常上午定下午班？

not much different. For foreign students, both sessions. Some only attend am session. some will go for am international and pm traditional.

作者: GIPW 時間: 09-4-27 21:53

原帖由 YvonneEddy 於 09-4-27 13:36 發表
請問蘇淅上午班及下午班的課程有無分別？同埋，係咪有外籍小朋友呢？通常上午定下午班？

My apology - if this is a nursery then I would say more in morning but not as much as in KG as most family do not send their kids to school so early

作者: YvonneEddy 時間: 09-4-28 08:24

Thank you. I choose pm class coz I think it is too early in the morning esp during winter....bb may want to sleep more...

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-28 09:42 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

Some of my friends also think in your way. Yes, it has really been a very difficult task to wake the kid up to school during winter time........she kept on crying "want to sleep" "No". So, every morning is a fierce fight, I sometimes feel sorry too.... But if you let me choose again, I will still choose AM class as it is good to train the kid to "wake up early" and have afternoon sleep.....of course, if your kid does not have the habit to go to sleep in the afternoon (like some of my friends' children), then it makes no difference.

KCS PM does have more activities than AM class, for instance, Chinese Poem appreciation in PM, not AM class.

作者: YvonneEddy 時間: 09-4-28 20:53

Yes I was attracted by its leaftlet that more activities would be arranged in pm class, so I chose PM class when interview....I am afraid my son will fall asleep in the class coz he used to sleep in the afternoon....any way I have made my final decision to let him study at KCS, I hope I made the right choice.

原帖由 Sorb 於 09-4-28 09:42 發表
Some of my friends also think in your way. Yes, it has really been a very difficult task to wake the kid up to school during winter time........she kept on crying "want to sleep" "No". So, every mor ...

作者: GIPW 時間: 09-4-28 22:38

Opps. I did not know there is so much difference. My boys currently is in pm, there is poem appreciation. But next year I will put him im am again, to train his sleeping habit :)

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-4-28 23:11

Hi GIPW & Sorb,

Given that both AM and PM class are also 3 hours per day, just wondering how can they have more activities for PM class? Does it mean PM class will have more but shorter (in terms of during) per activities while AM class has less but longer activities? This is what I cannot understand...

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-29 00:21

Esther, I don't know ah but this is what KCS said in the leaflet. "We have more resource in the afternoon, so, will be able to organise more activities for PM class".

From the weekly class activity memo to the parents, I do note that there are a few activities for PM class only.....but overall, not too much difference for activities between AM and PM class. I think this is why GIPW cannot note it even her kid study in PM class loh.

原帖由 esther.cy 於 09-4-28 23:11 發表
Hi GIPW & Sorb,

Given that both AM and PM class are also 3 hours per day, just wondering how can they have more activities for PM class? Does it mean PM class will have more but shorter (in terms of ...

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-29 09:40 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

Clarify - What I mean PM has more activities than AM is talking about PN only, I don't know if KG has any difference between AM and PM class.

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-4-29 17:23

Sorb,

Thank you for your note.

As I am a very "slow" mammy and I still not yet confirm if I should put my girl to Victoria or KCS... I hope I can get more information before I make the decision.

For PN level, just wondering what they will teach in their English class? Do they have homework to do at home?? (really concern their English level). THanks!

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-29 18:16 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

It is really a difficult chose....I will say headache. Last year, my baby had offers from Victoria (Habourview) PM and KCS AM, I have gone through the same headache as you......but, I have finally chosen KCS (a few reasons: KCS has better campus environment, KCS is AM offer while Victoria's offer is PM, the Victoria playgroup experience gave me not very good experience of Victoria though it is famous, Victoria also gives me the feeling of too commercial, if the more expensive fee pay justify?, etc) If you emphasis very much on English, you go for Victoria lah......, I think KCS is weaker than Victoria if talking about English. If you don't like Victoria after trial, you can apply KCS KG next year again (KCS KG has more places than PN, so, if your child can secure a place both in KCS and Victoria, he/she should be quite smart, I think not difficult for her to secure a place again in KCS KG if you want). I know a number of Victoria students change to KCS or other schools after PN.

For the English class of KCS, just half an hour each day, the english teacher will teach the children songs, play with them in the playground, have some theme activities, such as water play. Will also teach the children shapes, colours, letters, etc.

No homework at PN.

作者: mickfan 時間: 09-4-29 22:42

Sorb,

Thanks for your information, I now have the same problem as you in last year (KCS AM vs Victoria PM), I like AM class but Victoria can't offer and my baby need afternoon nap everyday. But do you think KCS is good after your 1-year experience? Are you going to continue KG in KCS or you will try others. Thanks for your advice.

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-30 00:43

If you like Victoria, you can apply for waiting list to AM class.  Statistic:  2 of my friends' baby changed from AM to PM after 2 months in Victoria pre-nursery PM.

Another reason why I did not choose Victoria is I am not targeting international school for my kid in primary school.  Mums of Victoria told me it is one year behind the curriculum of local KG........thus, quite harsh for the kid when they go to local P1.

KCS is quite good to me .......their activities are suprisingly diversify to me, such as water play, sand play, making popcorn, having hotpot, etc.......yes, I will let my kid go to KCS KG.  Of course, if I have offer from SKH or St Paul Convent, I may not stay.

Besides, the fee difference in KG between KCS and Victoria is quite a lot, I only need to pay around $700 per month in KCS after deducting the voucher, so, the $$$ saved can be used on many interest classes lah, this is also attractive for me though I can afford my kid go to Victoria : )

I cannot comment too much on Victoria, but a few friends of mine really will withdraw in the coming Sept to other KG's. I think Victoria has its strength, for instance, it has a full time English teacher throughout the lesson.  It is not that strict to the students as KCS.....KCS is quite traditional ga.

But for English, one of my friends has commented that the English teacher of her girl's class is very shy and passive, her girl's English did not improve after going to Victoria.  I think she is unlucky.

Hope you can make the right choice for your baby.

uote]原帖由 mickfan 於 09-4-29 22:42 發表

Sorb,

Thanks for your information, I now have the same problem as you in last year (KCS AM vs Victoria PM), I like AM class but Victoria can't offer and my baby need afternoon nap everyday. But do ... [/quote]

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-30 00:45

Sorry, statistic should be "changed from PM to AM class after 2 months in PM class".

原帖由 Sorb 於 09-4-30 00:43 發表
If you like Victoria, you can apply for waiting list to AM class. Statistic: 2 of my friends' baby changed from AM to PM after 2 months in Victoria pre-nursery PM.

Another reason why I did not ch ...

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-4-30 01:22

Mickfan,

My case is just opposite to you... my girl has been accepted by Victoria AM and KCS PM. I like AM class coz my girl takes afternoon nap everyday and I think sleeping is so important to a small kid like ours.

Sorb,

Thx again for sharing.

I have written letter to KCS to apply change from PM to AM class, hope they will consider my application la. As mentioned in your thread, you know someone successfully changed from PM to AM class, does it mean there should be some withdrawal after a few months the school start??

I am actually thinking to put her to Victoria for PN coz not only they offer my girl AM class, also, it is a walkable distance to my home; but for KCS, I'll need to put her for school bus. In this case, do you think KCS will BLACKLIST me when I apply for their KG again next year?

Grateful if you should please share, thanks!

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-30 09:43

Esther, if so, I will choose Victoria as I have 2 very important selection criteria in choosing school.  First one is AM class so that my baby can have afternoon sleep at a more ideal timing.  Second criteria is it must be within walking distance as I think it is too dangerous for a kid of 2 to take school bus....unless you or your helper go with you.

For withdrawal case, I think this is common in the beginning for most KG's.  But for Victoria, at least, I know 3 cases lah, if not, 2 of my friends' kid may not be able to change to AM class 2 months later, and one of my friend's kid got an offer 1.5 months after school started.

Whether KCS will blacklist you, I doubt as KG and PN really operates very independently.  It seems the information sharing between the 2 entities is very limited based on my observation.

Ah, one scenario for you 2 to consider, as I know ther are such mum......but I will not follow, I think it is too "crazy".  They accept both offers, so, their children go to KCS in the morning and Victoria in the afternoon or vice versa. You can follow them at the beginning and make the decision after trial if you want : )

Oh, final information that worth of sharing is.......there are many non-chinese children studying in KCS PN (I don't know KG)......approximately 1/3 in my baby's class are non-chinese, so, KCS is more multi-national than Victoria in term of the this ga.

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-4-30 12:08

Sorb, thanks for your sharing.

Many people say KCS is a strict school, after your kid study there for more than 6 mths, do you really think it is a strict school?

If you think it is a strict school, what makes you think about this?

My husband studied there 3x years ago (hahaha!!!) he said the teacher used ruler to punish the kid... know that teacher can no longer beat the kid, so just wondering if KCS is still that strict?

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-4-30 16:53

I think nowaday, 體罰 is not allowed in school and unacceptable to most parents lah. When I said strict with the students, I do not mean that the teachers will beat the kids. I am not aware of such cases in the past 6 months. The teachers of KCS are quite nice and friendly ga. My sister-in-law's kid just graduated from KCS KG, I have never heard of any such cases from her too.

I think "old" KCS may have such cases, my husband is also an alumni of KCS 3x years ago.... may be my husband and yours are classmate : ), he also has some bad memory of the KCS primary school (not KG) .......I think KCS has improved a lots in 30 years time.

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-5-1 00:42

Sorb, you are right, perhaps my husband and your husband were classmate in Primary (my husband studied in KCS KG & Primary). Btw, if he was in the same class as Kong Chi Lay (the ex-TVB artist), then I bet they should be in the same class, hahaha!

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-5 09:40

I have never heard my husband mentioned about that artist.......maybe my husband already forgotten most of his classmates in KG and Primary school......if your husband is not the classmate of my husband, he maybe the classmate of my sister-in-laws. Their graduation years from KCS primary 6 ranges from 1981-1987. Does your husband fit into this year range?

作者: Snoopywy 時間: 09-5-5 12:17

原帖由 Sorb 於 09-5-5 09:40 發表
I have never heard my husband mentioned about that artist.......maybe my husband already forgotten most of his classmates in KG and Primary school......if your husband is not the classmate of my husba ...

你好,咁你囝囝係咪讀緊nursary 呢,我預算今年同呀囡報..有冇事要留意下架 ? 你覺得邊類小朋友適合呢所學校,謝過

作者: esther.cy 時間: 09-5-5 20:27

Sorb, my husband studied in KCS Primary and gratuated in Y1989. Then your husband should be his "師兄". Haha!

As suggested by you, I have decided to put my girl into Victoria PN (AM) this year and will apply KCS KG again next year. Hope I can secure AM class next year.

Good to know your in BK, thanks for your advice always!

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-6 10:15 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

Snoopy, points to note are:
- Don't miss the application deadline as it ends in early Oct., earlier than other PN.
-  Must choose PM session at the same time as most AM places of KCS are given to those with connection, you know KCS has many alumni who has grown up and give birth to their 2nd generation (their children have more mark).  So, AM place competion is quite keen in PN as it has less place than KG.
- If you have a PM offer, remember to send the letter the next day to line up for the AM class if you prefer AM class.  If no offer and you are keen to join, also send in the letter for waiting list to PM asap. My friend's son got an PM offer after some time on the waiting list.
- You and your husband can go with your kid into the room to have the interview with the teacher, the teacher will just ask the children and you some very simple questions (e.g will give an apple to your child and ask what is it; will ask where you will normally go with your child during weekend), so, no need to worry too much and no preparation is needed in my opinion. Just go with a relaxing mood. Of course, you should train your child now not scare of answering questions raised by strangers.
- For the interview, you can choose it to be conductecd in  Chinese or English.

Hope the above hints of help, good luck!

你覺得邊類小朋友適合呢所學校 - Sorry, I don't have idea on this. It all depens on what environment the parents want their child to be educated in.

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-6 10:16 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

Esther, you are welcome. Hope you have made the good choice for your kid.

作者: Snoopywy 時間: 09-5-6 12:06

原帖由 Sorb 於 09-5-6 10:15 發表
Snoopy, points to note are:
- Don't miss the application deadline as it ends in early Oct., earlier than other PN.
- Must choose PM session at the same time as most AM places of KCS are given to thos ...

好多謝你既詳細內容,我把佢收生日期寫低左
我轉個方式問之前個問題,佢地教學方法係咪比較傳統式呢 ? 即係咪好兇個d....

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-6 13:41 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

Snoopy, traditional or not depends on which type of school you are comparing to......if international school, of course, KCS is traditional.  If comparing to other local schools, I think KCS is similar to most local schools.  So, remember when you say traditional you are comparing an apple to apple.

After  more than 7 months of observation of PN,  I think their class activities are very 多元化, I will say out of my expectation and more than many local KGs I know.  But 活動多元化 does not necessarily equivalent to good.... as it also has to depend on the quality of teacher.  Say, whether they can motivate the students to think via those 多元化活動.  I cannot comment on this as I am a working mum, I cannot stay outside the classroom to observe....but my impression is KCS teacher are relatively traditional....

Refering to your last question, all the PN teachers I have known in KCS are very nice.......they do care very much about my child.....but some administrative staff of KG (PN share with KG the adm staff I think) are quite impolite/cool in my previous dealing with them.  But I don't think the later will have effect on the children.

作者: Snoopywy 時間: 09-5-6 20:44

sorb :
完全明白,我應該學你話咁樣比較,我對呢d完全冇認識,真係感激你解釋 !

就係選 PM 定係 AM 班都有學問,你話我點會識,我成日以為返早午可以方便小朋友放學響屋企休息下....

[ 本帖最後由 Snoopywy 於 09-5-6 20:46 編輯 ]

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-7 11:00 標題: 回覆 1# Snoopywy 的文章

Snoopy, I don't know this when I applied PN/KG for my kid neither : ) In the pass 2 years selecting PN and KG for my kid, I was a kind of stubborn mum, I insisted on choosing AM session only, did not tick the PM box at all, so, my child did not get an offer from most good PN/KG.....whereas my friend's kid performance was poorer than mine, but he had a PM offer as she selected PM for her son. So, her son lined up for AM waiting list, wheras my kid had to lined up for the PM waiting list if I want to.

So, share the topic of choosing school with more of your friends and they may tell you more tips.

作者: didikoko 時間: 09-5-7 22:15

收到通知書...14 & 15號交學費啦

作者: Snoopywy 時間: 09-5-7 22:51

原帖由 Sorb 於 09-5-7 11:00 發表
Snoopy, I don't know this when I applied PN/KG for my kid neither : ) In the pass 2 years selecting PN and KG for my kid, I was a kind of stubborn mum, I insisted on choosing AM session only, did not ...

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作者: Snoopywy 時間: 09-5-7 22:52

原帖由 didikoko 於 09-5-7 22:15 發表
收到通知書...14 & 15號交學費啦

你好,你指幼稚園嗎 ?

作者: YvonneEddy 時間: 09-5-7 23:43

PN交學費

原帖由 Snoopywy 於 09-5-7 22:52 發表

你好,你指幼稚園嗎 ?

作者: Snoopywy 時間: 09-5-9 20:18

原帖由 YvonneEddy 於 09-5-7 23:43 發表
PN交學費

ic,我等緊9月報nursary

作者: Chens 時間: 09-5-11 12:46

My sharing...almost 1 year in PN in KCS...
My child is active (that's one of the reason I choose KCS- to be more discipline).
She is now indepedent, more obident (of coz, still active). Although, she was used to make teacher angry...haha, but she is now very good and try to be cooperate....
At the beginnings (being a parent), we are too nervous when they had 1st day of schooling...after almost a year of time+her description of activities in school, you feel happy she had lots of learning in school ....
I think AM or PM class is a personal decision with aim to fit your BB. KCS's PN activities are in wide ranges and their environment can allow to let children to play more..e.g. Sand Play, Water Play, Hot Pot, Playing Kites.....Big size show/performance in which these cannot be applied in most small environment size PN.
Parents, again: depends on what you need for during in PN period.

作者: YvonneEddy 時間: 09-5-11 13:27

Chens:

Will your child continue to study at KCS for K1? How is her Eng and Putonghua level?

原帖由 Chens 於 09-5-11 12:46 發表
My sharing...almost 1 year in PN in KCS...
My child is active (that's one of the reason I choose KCS- to be more discipline).
She is now indepedent, more obident (of coz, still active). Although, she ...

作者: Chens 時間: 09-5-11 15:14

Since we will teach her more at home as well with a little bit talent of her in language.
PTH: Now, she can read and speak 10-11 首唐詩. Can listen and answer simple PTH conversion.
Eng: over 1500 English words, with simple English conversion (we speak in English from new born to age 2)
Cantonese: We add in more Cantonese when she is age 2. Cantonese is the current home language.

Yes, she will continue at KCS for K1 in Local stream.

原帖由 YvonneEddy 於 09-5-11 13:27 發表
Chens:

Will your child continue to study at KCS for K1? How is her Eng and Putonghua level?

作者: Snoopywy 時間: 09-5-11 17:34

原帖由 Chens 於 09-5-11 12:46 發表
My sharing...almost 1 year in PN in KCS...
My child is active (that's one of the reason I choose KCS- to be more discipline).
She is now indepedent, more obident (of coz, still active). Although, she ...

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作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-12 10:28 標題: 回覆 1# Snoopywy 的文章

Chens, I am really amazed by your son's language talent.....I think you have spent lots of time in nurturing him. My kid never speaks Mandarine at home (except singing songs in Mandarine), I somethimes wonder if she really understand Mandarine. This is why I asked the teacher and the teacher told me my kid will answer her in Cantonese in school even though the teacher speaks to her in Mandarine. I have tried to ask my kid something in Mandarine (like where is your hand, eye, etc), she will point to it, so, I know she understand Mandarine, but her talent is Language is not good when compared to yours.

作者: Chens 時間: 09-5-13 11:06

Sorb, sorry to clarify, mine one is a girl. Ha!

原帖由 Sorb 於 09-5-12 10:28 發表
Chens, I am really amazed by your son's language talent.....I think you have spent lots of time in nurturing him. My kid never speaks Mandarine at home (except singing songs in Mandarine), I somethim ...

作者: YvonneEddy 時間: 09-5-14 00:13

Your girl is so smart in terms of launguage. Did she take any course outside?

原帖由 Chens 於 09-5-13 11:06 發表
Sorb, sorry to clarify, mine one is a girl. Ha!

作者: Chens 時間: 09-5-14 10:02

No. No any course. Invest in time to your child is the most important and effective. Bring along with her and explain everything to her with patience.

原帖由 YvonneEddy 於 09-5-14 00:13 發表
Your girl is so smart in terms of launguage. Did she take any course outside?

作者: bb_mummy 時間: 09-5-15 00:14

the ability of learning languages is stronger for girls' than boys', do u agree?

作者: Moooo 時間: 09-5-15 09:27

請問是5月還是6月14，15號？
我搬了屋，收不到。。。

原帖由 YvonneEddy 於 09-5-7 23:43 發表
PN交學費

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-15 11:01 標題: 回覆 1# Moooo 的文章

Call the school lah, if it is May and you miss the deadline to pay the fee, they may treat you as forefeiting the place. Then, you need to beg them or look for other schools lah. KG students have already paid the school fee last week, so, maybe PN this week........, suggest you call the school to ask. Don't wait for the reply from other mums in this forum lah.

作者: Moooo 時間: 09-5-15 11:34

I tried calling all morning, but no one picked up the phone.

I called KG and they said PN today has 親子同樂日。。。 so no one in office, but KG staff can't help me with anything!

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-15 11:36 標題: 回覆 1# Moooo 的文章

yes, today is the 親子同樂日 for PN, but will finish at 12:00pm. Call after lunch lah.

作者: Moooo 時間: 09-5-15 11:50

thanks Sorb for replying me..

I finally managed to find a friend who's going to register her child for PN.

feel so lucky as I haven't been following this thread until yesterday! i would have missed the deadline as the staff previously told me KCS will send out letters re registration in early June!

作者: pooh_tigger 時間: 09-5-15 14:11

pn 係5月15, 16交學費, 我都係打算今日去交

作者: Moooo 時間: 09-5-15 14:42

yes, thanks.

i will go tomorrow as they said they need time to re-issue the letter for me...

作者: Moooo 時間: 09-5-15 16:16

其實，我之前也在掙扎緊　ｂｅｔｗｅｅｎ　ｖｉｃｔｏｒｉａ　（ＨＦ）　和蘇浙。　

我老公屬意 victoria，覺得乾淨企理點。。。　我就覺得蘇浙師資好一點　（esp. NET)

看了你們的分享，覺得ＫＳＣ的“嚴”我應該接受到，是唯一比較遠我家。

請問知不知道可不可以比家長陪坐校車？　

作者: mickfan 時間: 09-5-15 17:58

Hi Mooo,

I have the same proble with you between Victoria (HF) vs KCS, I finally pick Victoria (HF) as we try to rank various aspects of the 2 such as mode of education, future chance to other better KG, language exposure, teacher's quality, etc. Victoria has a little bit better off, especially PN for KCS is not guarantee for KG but for Victoria, it is guaranteed, so I now choose Victoria (HF) first and will interview KCS K1 again this year for international stream. I hope I make the right choice as I think the only thing I missed for KCS is its Potonghua.

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-15 19:34 標題: 回覆 1# mickfan 的文章

家長不可以陪坐校車, they have 保姆跟車。

作者: Moooo 時間: 09-5-15 19:49

Hi mickfan,

yes, no guarantee to KG is a concern. since my son attended the playgroup, i am not v satisfied with their teacher quality. also, i find that Victoria is too commercial for me. i dont think you would miss out on PTH cos Vic (HF) offers trilingual for all PN classes

作者: Sorb 時間: 09-5-16 11:26 標題: 回覆 1# Moooo 的文章

Me too, my kid attended the playgroup of Victoria last year, most of the parents, including me, in our group are not satisfied with the teaching quality and the teaching method of the playgroup, this is one of the reasons I did not choose Victoria PN last year.

作者: chanwkb 時間: 09-5-16 11:47

Hi All,
I will submit my application to Kiangsu this Sep for my baby boy for next year admission (for reception/ international section).

Any comment on this school? Anything I need to know for preparption of interview etc

Tks.
Bonnie

作者: Moooo 時間: 09-5-17 06:23

ha, i guess that's an effective way for Vic to make a bunch of parents disappear (自動流失)

原帖由 Sorb 於 09-5-16 11:26 發表
Me too, my kid attended the playgroup of Victoria last year, most of the parents, including me, in our group are not satisfied with the teaching quality and the teaching method of the playgroup, this ...

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