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作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 17:55     標題: 幸運(苦惱)的一群,聖心和聖保祿都收,點揀?

Notice a mom received PM offer from spk already (with SHCK offer too), just interested for everyone to share their opinions.

http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=1703117&page=2#pid26709319


Criteria to be considered (as suggested by parents and myself):
(Last updated 5/3/2009 at 9:41pm)

(1) AM or PM session offered;
(2) Causeway bay vs Central/Western District
(3) English Medium Primary vs Chinese Medium Primary (Both Secondary sections are EMI)
(4) Whole day Primary vs Half day primary (AM is Private and PM is Gov't Aided) (Note 1)
(5) School fees (KG and Primary)
(6) Spaciousness of the kindergarten
(7) Same or different locations with Primary and Secondary sections
(8) Teachers' friendliness and attitudes towards parents and children
(9) 品德培養
(10) Distance from home to kindergarten
(11) School uniform?!
(12) Academic results of secondary section (Note 2)

above all, listen to your own gut feelings about which kindergarten you like more!

Notes (1):
(a) School time for SPCS (Primary section) is from 8:30am to 3:00pm;
(b) School time for SHCSPS is from 7:40am to 12:35pm
(c) School time for SHCS is from 12:40pm to 5:35pm (P1 to P4) and from 8:45pm to 3:20pm (P5 to P6)

Note (2):
SPCS HKCEE result
http://ihouse.hkedcity.net/~sp1400/prospectus.pdf

SHCC HKCEE result
http://www.shcc.edu.hk/info/061107aa.pdf

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-3-16 11:08 編輯 ]
作者: winchoy16888    時間: 09-3-4 18:05

聖心和聖保祿都收咱叻恭禧哂‧聖心係咪早上定係聖保祿早上‧我揀返早果間
作者: kyliejet    時間: 09-3-4 18:08

選AM or PM, 重要過選學校本身嗎？
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 18:14

Yes, congratulations to petralee.

But why is AM session so important to many parents that can be used to decide to go to which kindergarten?  Is this related to sleeping habit?  

I applied PM session for my daughter as first choice for both kindergartens, so luckily it won't happen to be assigned to AM session by doing so.  I guess for those children who used to sleep early and wake up early, going to school in PM session may not be as desired.


原帖由 winchoy16888 於 09-3-4 18:05 發表
聖心和聖保祿都收咱叻恭禧哂‧聖心係咪早上定係聖保祿早上‧我揀返早果間
作者: wheellun    時間: 09-3-4 18:15

I will choose st paul..
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 18:15

Same wonder as you have.

原帖由 kyliejet 於 09-3-4 18:08 發表
選AM or PM, 重要過選學校本身嗎？
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 18:16

Thanks wheellun, but what's the reason behind the choice?

原帖由 wheellun 於 09-3-4 18:15 發表
I will choose st paul..
作者: wheellun    時間: 09-3-4 18:22

Just point of my view,  I heard some comments from my colleagues.
作者: lafayette    時間: 09-3-4 18:26

如果小學返全日? 咁早起身會點?

返下午班, 我的家庭就好難編排

中午飯要早食, 我住柴灣
校車12:00前開?
我個囡食得慢, 連著衫等等, 隨時11:00前就要開飯
咁早餐呢? 幾時食好? 幾點起床?

放學返家, 成5-6點, 我個囡要訓兩個鐘
7-8點醒, 咁夜晚又幾點訓呢?

佢訓左我先有私人時間, 咁我又幾點訓呢?

原帖由 iantsang 於 09-3-4 18:15 發表
Same wonder as you have.
作者: chu__chu    時間: 09-3-4 18:32

Ian, I thought your daughter is the lucky one you mentioned in your post... I believe your daughter will receive good news real soon.
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 18:38

Thanks for the feedback, I think your comment can be served as a good guideline for many parents if they need to send their children to PM session.

Concerning the wake up time, I think a kid 3 years old (who need to sleep probably 12 hours a day) and a 6 years old (who sleeps about 9-10 hours a day) can have a very different time table, and wake up time.  So, the consideration would be very different.

I do agree with you and totally understand the school time will have impacts on the daily schedule of most families.  I just assume as adults, we can be more flexible on our schedule to accommodate our own 3 years old  children.  Just my personal feelings, but I must admit it is hard to deal with work schedule and other siblings schedule.

Afterall, I think this is indeed a valid reason but may vary among families' situations.




原帖由 lafayette 於 09-3-4 18:26 發表
如果小學返全日? 咁早起身會點?

返下午班, 我的家庭就好難編排

中午飯要早食, 我住柴灣
校車12:00前開?
我個囡食得慢, 連著衫等等, 隨時11:00前就要開飯
咁早餐呢? 幾時食好? 幾點起床?

放學返家, 成5-6點, 我個 ...

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-3-4 18:48 編輯 ]
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 18:45

Hi chu_chu,

Thanks for the blessing!  But that's in fact is the nightmare of both my daughter and I are having!  My daughter sometimes before going to bed or wake up in the middle of the night and talk about how to choose between the two.

I wish chu chu the very best of luck!

Ian


原帖由 chu__chu 於 09-3-4 18:32 發表
Ian, I thought your daughter is the lucky one you mentioned in your post... I believe your daughter will receive good news real soon.
作者: invitation    時間: 09-3-4 21:24

just very personal opinion, yes, for me AM or PM is more important than the school.
in this case, both are good kindergartens, i will only consider the one who offers AM class.  if both schools offer PM class, i will consider another one...

原帖由 kyliejet 於 09-3-4 18:08 發表
選AM or PM, 重要過選學校本身嗎？
作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-4 21:36

Hi Ian,

Your girl will discuss with you how to choice between SH and SP?  Wow... your girl is really mature.  She is a BIG girl?  Does her tone and manner like an adult always?  Yes, if she is mature, maybe you need to take her pt. of view into consideration.

I wish the rest of us can receive the letter (whether accept or reject) asap so that we can close the file and do not have to worry about this in every second.


原帖由 iantsang 於 09-3-4 18:45 發表
Hi chu_chu,

Thanks for the blessing!  But that's in fact is the nightmare of both my daughter and I are having!  My daughter sometimes before going to bed or wake up in the middle of the night and t ...
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 21:57

Hi rtam,

Yes, my daughter is capable to express herself very well, but she is not a big B.  She was born in August, but we spent a lot of time communicating with her, in adult's tone.  So, once she started talking, she talks in full sentence and we encourage her to tell us her feelings too.  As a result, I think she is considered more mature and able to express herself quite well.

The main reason is because I worry she was born in second half of the year, so I decided to train her to be more mature to compete with big B, and I think the result is positive.  However, I need to delay some training (e.g. English) so she can be more fluent in Cantonese to handle interview.  I think this is the trade off.  Just tonight, she complained to me that it's my fault not teaching her the alphabets so she couldn't answer questions in Heep Yunn's interview......

My daughter has expressed her interests in SHCK since January 3rd, the date of the interview.  She even insists SHCK is where she would go for kindergarten.  As a result, we actually have to try very hard to ask her to attend the SPK interview since SHCK result was not yet announced.

However, as a father, I do realize the pros and cons of both kindergartens and I certainly know there are benefits of studying in SPK.  I believe we may have discussed about this in front of her from time to time, and it is affecting her decisions.  If we ask her, she will still say she prefers SHCK.  However, she is capable to understand she may need to change under certain circumstances.

Agree with you, we need closure.  Should really get this over with, soon, real soon.



原帖由 rtam 於 09-3-4 21:36 發表
Hi Ian,

Your girl will discuss with you how to choice between SH and SP?  Wow... your girl is really mature.  She is a BIG girl?  Does her tone and manner like an adult always?  Yes, if she is mature ...
作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-4 23:22

I see.  She is really amazing.  I hope you will receive good news (= bad news co'z your girl needs to make a tough decision ) real soon.



原帖由 iantsang 於 09-3-4 21:57 發表
Hi rtam,

Yes, my daughter is capable to express herself very well, but she is not a big B.  She was born in August, but we spent a lot of time communicating with her, in adult's tone.  So, once she s ...
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-4 23:38

Thanks and good luck to you too!  Are you also waiting for spk's result?


原帖由 rtam 於 09-3-4 23:22 發表
I see.  She is really amazing.  I hope you will receive good news (= bad news co'z your girl needs to make a tough decision ) real soon.



作者: Rary    時間: 09-3-5 00:57

Just surfed by.

When I applied for my kid, at first I preferred am, but eventually she was assigned to a pm class.  Then I found that there are also advantages for pm class, and that is since both my wife and I come back late after work (usually around 8), if my kid goes to am class, she will have to sleep early and we wouldn't have the time to go through her homework or to talk to her, play with her during weekdays.  So afterall pm class is quite OK for us.

原帖由 kyliejet 於 09-3-4 18:08 發表
選AM or PM, 重要過選學校本身嗎？
作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-5 08:22

Yes, I am waiting for the result.
I like this school very much because I prefer English as MOI (primary).
Well… I do prepare my girl can’t get in, I will still happy to see my girl studying in the other KG.
No one knows what her journey will be all about.
Perhaps eventually her future will be brighter, happier, and healthier in another KG, primary…….the people she meet… whatever factors.


quote]原帖由 iantsang 於 09-3-4 23:38 發表
Thanks and good luck to you too!  Are you also waiting for spk's result?


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作者: bobo_wong2006    時間: 09-3-5 08:34

Dear parents,

Actually, both SH and SPK are excellent schools.  Those parents should be proud of their kids' achievement.  AM or PM won't be much matter so long as the kids can get into the schools, right?!  (Many prospective parents want to get into either one but don't have the luck!)

Take it easy as kids are smarter and can adapt to the environment better than we thought.

Bobowong
作者: lafayette    時間: 09-3-5 09:49

除了學校位置與交通的考慮外, 無論師資/升學配套/設備, 我覺得兩間幼園都是極優的

我最想知道的反而是:

兩間幼園的小學, 一間是中文小學, 分上下午校, 一間是全日制英文小學, 除了是中文/英文教授外, 還有那點不同?
作者: mansumbb    時間: 09-3-5 10:03

I shared the same thought with you so I prefer PM to AM.  Indeed that really depends on the family situation.

原帖由 Rary 於 09-3-5 00:57 發表
Just surfed by.

When I applied for my kid, at first I preferred am, but eventually she was assigned to a pm class.  Then I found that there are also advantages for pm class, and that is since both my ...
作者: kyliejet    時間: 09-3-5 10:15

Criteria to be considered (as suggested by parents):

(1) AM or PM session offered;
(2) Causeway bay vs Central/Western District
(3) English Medium Primary vs Chinese Medium Primary
(4) Whole day Primary vs Half day primary
(5) School fee (KG and Primary)

What else need to be concerned?
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-5 11:15

Hi Rary, thank you so much for your sharing of personal experience.  I think the economy and society has changed in such a great deal, many of the old beliefs don't quite work the same way as it used to.

In the old time, I guess the family mixture may be a bit different.  Some mothers will stay home and take care of children full-time, and even if both parents need to work, the working hours are not as long as it is nowadays.  As you mentioned, if both parents come home at 8pm, it will be almost bed time for the kids if they need to go to AM class.

For me, precious time to spend with the children, is very important to the development of the children.  Personally, I think it is more important than anything else, besides good health.  Don't you think?


原帖由 Rary 於 09-3-5 00:57 發表
Just surfed by.

When I applied for my kid, at first I preferred am, but eventually she was assigned to a pm class.  Then I found that there are also advantages for pm class, and that is since both my ...
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-5 11:19

Hi bobo_wong2006,

Thanks for the comment and I think most people will agree with you that both are excellent kindergartens.

The down side is when you get "too lucky", then it becomes very difficult to choose in between, since you can only choose one...... and they are both good, but also very different.  Seriously, no idea which one is eventually better......


原帖由 bobo_wong2006 於 09-3-5 08:34 發表
Dear parents,

Actually, both SH and SPK are excellent schools.  Those parents should be proud of their kids' achievement.  AM or PM won't be much matter so long as the kids can get into the schools,  ...
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-5 11:30

Thanks kyliejet for adding to the list, please don't mind I added some supporting info for other parents to be aware of.

Criteria to be considered (as suggested by parents):

(1) AM or PM session offered;
(2) Causeway bay vs Central/Western District
(3) English Medium Primary vs Chinese Medium Primary (Both Secondary sections are EMI)
(4) Whole day Primary vs Half day primary (AM is Private and PM is Gov't Aided)
(5) School fees (KG and Primary)
(6) Spaciousness of the kindergarten
(7) Same or different locations with Primary and Secondary sections
(8) Teachers' friendliness and attitudes towards parents and children

Any more suggestions?  Please help to build on the list.

原帖由 kyliejet 於 09-3-5 10:15 發表
Criteria to be considered (as suggested by parents):

(1) AM or PM session offered;
(2) Causeway bay vs Central/Western District
(3) English Medium Primary vs Chinese Medium Primary
(4) Whole day Prim ...
作者: mmmng    時間: 09-3-5 11:32

HI 各位...
在此~真係要讚一下一位我好欣賞的父親 ( Mr.Ian )
佢真係好細心~好努力為女兒安排一切~做您女兒真幸福呀

以下是我個人意見 :
講真...我覺得各有各好
最重要睇下家長如何配合
以家庭教育為重
因為小孩子最受既..除左朋輩..老師..就係父母影響
你想子女成皇成鳳...
一定要做好多功夫
我覺得除左學術...
其實品德真係要行先
身教最為重要
最後~其實選擇任何一間幼稚園都好~請別指意佢入到名校就一定好~一定叻~子女既將來~有賴父母們的教育及栽培的，我們要用心~好好的教育下一代。

多謝各位容許小妹在此分享~~
作者: bobo_wong2006    時間: 09-3-5 11:39

Ian,

Actually, you have opened an interesting discussion topic.  

There may not be any criterias and most of the time, we make decisions based on our 'feelings' or 'impulse'.  If you ask yourself why you marry your wife or why you like your girl, it may not be easy to list out the criterias.  Everything has both bright and dark sides.  

Cheers
作者: bobo_wong2006    時間: 09-3-5 11:41

mmmng,

I totally agree with you on 最後~其實選擇任何一間幼稚園都好~請別指意佢入到名校就一定好~一定叻~子女既將來~有賴父母們的教育及栽培的，我們要用心~好好的教育下一代
No matter which schools we send our kids to, it's still very long, long way for both parents and kids.
作者: mansumbb    時間: 09-3-5 11:49

Hi iantsang,

If I were you, I will go.  Reasons behind are:
- even your girl is not a big one born at beginning of the year, she seems quite mature based on your description so far.
- if you won't go, she got no chance next year as she's born in Aug (next year should be for those born Sep 2006 to Dec 2007 if I not mistaken).
- in case touch wood she can't catch up, there could be chance to repeat there (anyone know the school policy on that?)
- the connected Primary school is a dream one: English Medium and Whole day (that's the reason I long struggled between St. Clare's and SH)
- the connected Secondary school seems having a bit higer reputation (and academic) than SH
  (but the secondary school location of SH and St. Clare's are good as far from those attractive places like karaoke and shopping malls).

Just my 2 cents.
作者: spmok1999    時間: 09-3-5 11:54

聖心小學私立部是上午班的, 下午班是資助的 (小一至小四) 小五及小六是全日班, 若要考慮當上小一時要是私立部的話, 一定係上午班, 要留意上午班上課時間是很早的 ...
作者: kyliejet    時間: 09-3-5 11:54

Yes. This is a very interesting topic.

I think the criteria listed above are for reference only, in case you don't have any ideas or preferences of them.

I agree the feelings and impulse towards the school is very important too.

[ 本帖最後由 kyliejet 於 09-3-5 12:03 編輯 ]
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-5 13:03

Thanks mmmng for the compliment and appreciation, but it's very embarrassing though.    I strongly agree with you 品德 and 身教 is very important.  That's also why I think these leave to the parents' commitment and I mean lots of sacrifices......

Also, you are right about the famous schools really have no special tricks, their best shot is to select the children and parents who share the same philosophy and expectations like they do, and most of the time it relies on the teachers and parents to work together.  There are no magic.  It's only because they are famous, so they have more parents and children to choose from, and can be very selective.

Thanks to the active feedbacks from bobo_wong2006 and kyliejet.  I have been long waiting to put up such discussion since I think this will become a very interesting one.  The main purpose is to help those parents who may not have a preference already and help to list out some reference criteria for them to consider.  Even for those of us who already have a preference, there may be something that we have missed and can take this opportunity to consider based on more information.

I hope this help and hopefully there are more valuable inputs from parents which can be used to bring up our children!

Ian

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-3-5 13:09 編輯 ]
作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-5 13:15

Hi Ian,

Since your daughter is very mature, I have a strong feeling that she will get a place from SP.
I also feel that even you prefer SH, there is a voice inside you.. calling you to go to SP; otherwise, you don’t have to be so struggle now.  Hard to decide right?
I agree with what other parents said our decision is not totally rational, it is talking about the feeling, impression, experience… When I talked to my husband about SP, his memory would start to go back to the good old days… the SP girls he met in U… he would start to smile and tell me about his feeling (then I know those girls must be talent, and charming…  hee hee).
So don’t forget to share your result here immediately around Mar 18.

[ 本帖最後由 rtam 於 09-3-5 14:15 編輯 ]
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-5 13:40

Hi mansumbb,

I thought our daughters will be schoolmates in SHCK?  Are you also waiting for results from SPK?

Thanks very much for your inputs but my considerations and preferences may be slightly different with yours so that affect my choice.

In fact I never treat my daughter as a small B, with the exception of the interview with Pui Ching since their age range is Sep 2005 to Aug 2006, and my daughter suddenly become a very small b.  So, I never have the headache as many small b parents have on whether to apply again next year.

In our case, we happen to prefer primary school using local dialet (Cantonese) as medium of instruction so our preference goes to SHCK and SHCSPS.  It's a long story to tell on the rationale behind so I am not going to bore you with it.

Ian


原帖由 mansumbb 於 09-3-5 11:49 發表
Hi iantsang,

If I were you, I will go.  Reasons behind are:
- even your girl is not a big one born at beginning of the year, she seems quite mature based on your description so far.
- if you won't go ...
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-5 14:15

Hi rtam,

Thanks for the good wish but the fact was we had a little accident on our way to the SPK interview that morning, so that was a sub-par performance for all of us.  Could be good or bad, and that's the reason why I think we need to apply to more kindergartens just in case any unexpected can happen!  A note to parents of 2007 babies!

Have you notice my daughter is wearing the SHCK uniform already?  The consensus in our family, is we like SHCK the most.  But there are factors in SPK which are also worth considering so I had the moments of doubt.  But I am fine now and just like to take this opportunity to help myself to explore any factors which I may have missed.  And also,hope to help other parents to make a choice that fits their family more.

Good luck to you and your family!
(and yes, I am aware the SPCS girls are talented and pretty, since I know many of them in secondary school)  

Ian


原帖由 rtam 於 09-3-5 13:15 發表
Hi Ian,

Since your daughter is very mature, I have a strong feeling that she will get a place from SP.
I also feel that even you prefer SH, there is a voice inside you.. calling you to go to SP; oth ...
作者: michelle_0623    時間: 09-3-5 16:44

兩間都係好學校，上下午班都冇問題，最大問題係邊間近自己住所，要坐成粒幾鐘至番到學，幾好都係假!
作者: mansumbb    時間: 09-3-5 16:47

Chance for my small girl to SPK is so low that our family dedicated to SH already.  Yeah, our girls are coming year SH K1 PM schoolmates but just difference classes.  

Since you're considering SPK, I really don't know I should say "Looking forward to seeing you guys in the school" or not.

Anyway, wish you could make a happy decision.

原帖由 iantsang 於 09-3-5 13:40 發表
Hi mansumbb,

I thought our daughters will be schoolmates in SHCK?  Are you also waiting for results from SPK?

Thanks very much for your inputs but my considerations and preferences may be slightly d ...
作者: zitaeric    時間: 09-3-5 18:41

起香港區兩間学校都非常好,学業成績真係冇得比較,亦無謂比較...

我細個個時,兩間学校都讀過,如果再問我,作為'"学生"自身來說,我会揀SP(好個人的),因為SP成套校服都好靚...SH,件夏季校服白色,又簿,對女仔吾好,而且d頭飾又要規定紅色,真係好悶,吾鍾意紅色就...!!! SP間校舍又比SH好好多...

今年,我都有幫阿囡報了好多間,最尾都有考SP.而SH報了但最終都冇去考,如果真的考不上SP,好大機会就揀聖大上午...有冇家長好似我咁樣揀学校...
作者: tokkibb    時間: 09-3-5 19:08

I'm also one of the nervous mom waiting for the result of SPK. Like zitaeric said, SPK is my first choice since I was grown up there for more than 16 years and it's like a second home for me.  SCHK is also a good school as a whole and my girl already got a pm offer there. So now I feeling very excited and nervous of the result coming out as I heard some of the moms already got the offer letter from SPK.
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-5 21:29

Hi zitaeric, I agree with you that "学業成績真係冇得比較,亦無謂比較..."  Both schools have very good academic results and these things will vary year by year, why bother?

I have heard from other parents who also prefer SPK because of their uniform!  Yes, I agree the whole set looks very smart indeed.  However, my daughter loves the pink tie of SHCK very much, and red hair dressings are what she is using.  So, I guess we are neutral.  Let me add this factor to the list, for fun or serious, be the judge of your own!  


原帖由 zitaeric 於 09-3-5 18:41 發表
起香港區兩間学校都非常好,学業成績真係冇得比較,亦無謂比較...

我細個個時,兩間学校都讀過,如果再問我,作為'"学生"自身來說,我会揀SP(好個人的),因為SP成套校服都好靚...SH,件夏季校服白色,又簿,對女仔吾好,而且d ...

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-3-5 21:32 編輯 ]
作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-5 23:39

Hi tokkibb,

I am happy to meet a SPK alumni here.  我有個心結,望你可幫我打開...it's about SPCS.  Long long time ago when I was a S5 graduate, one day I went into SPCS to ask for a form (I couldn't remember what sort of thing I was going to apply, not a place in S6 for sure).  I met a Sister (likely the Principal) at the door of the School Office, I said politely "execuse me, may I..." I didn't even finish that question, that Sister then yelled at me madly "YOU!  GET OUT OF MY SIGHT NOW!".  I then ran away quickly without turning back at all.  Since then, I never visited this school until now I applied SPK for my daughter.  My question is "was it just a particular case only?  Perhaps Sister was not feeling well at that moment... I trust that Sister treated her students very well always".  To be honest, even now, that scary feeling can't never go away.  So do you mind to share a bit your good old days so that I know that was a particular case only, I shouldn't mind at all.
(please execuse me for telling my own story here)      

原帖由 tokkibb 於 09-3-5 19:08 發表
I'm also one of the nervous mom waiting for the result of SPK. Like zitaeric said, SPK is my first choice since I was grown up there for more than 16 years and it's like a second home for me.  SCHK is ...
作者: no32    時間: 09-3-6 10:49

原帖由 rtam 於 09-3-5 23:39 發表
Hi tokkibb,

I am happy to meet a SPK alumni here.  我有個心結,望你可幫我打開...it's about SPCS.  Long long time ago when I was a S5 graduate, one day I went into SPCS to ask for a form (I couldn't re ...


我覺得既然已經過去就唔好記住, 人生應該將快樂留比自己, 試下放開吧.
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-6 12:53

Hi rtam,

Consider you have such bad experience, you are already a very good mother to go back to the school again for your daughter.

Well, my assumption is the sister was probably there with a duty so she wouldn't want to be disturbed.  Some people use languages that are more direct and forward so I agree with the other mom that you should just let it go.  Don't let it bother you.  You are doing very good already!

Ian

原帖由 rtam 於 09-3-5 23:39 發表
Hi tokkibb,

I am happy to meet a SPK alumni here.  我有個心結,望你可幫我打開...it's about SPCS.  Long long time ago when I was a S5 graduate, one day I went into SPCS to ask for a form (I couldn't re ...
作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-6 14:14

Hi no.32 & Ian,
非常感激你們的安慰。或許是我太保護女兒，怕她會受到類似的傷害 (當時我年紀小，向來乖乖，加上只有我一人面對，所以很是害怕) ，但我一直估計這只是個別事件，我很尊敬這校及喜歡她所教養的學生，所以的確要衝破一點心理障礙及恐懼才能為女兒上路。做了父母後，為了孩子，真是甚麽也會硬著頭皮去。
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-6 15:07

Hi rtam, hope you don't mind if I said a little bit too much, but this is being said whole-heartedly.  Please don't be too protective to your children if you love and care about them.  I know this is hard to do, but this is good for them to face more difficulties and even failures in their young age, and allow the parents to be there for them, and to support them through those processes, then both themselves and the family bond can grow!

I wish you all the best!  And please forgive me for saying too much.

Ian
  
原帖由 rtam 於 09-3-6 14:14 發表
Hi no.32 & Ian,
非常感激你們的安慰。或許是我太保護女兒，怕她會受到類似的傷害 (當時我年紀小，向來乖乖，加上只有我一人面對，所以很是害怕) ，但我一直估計這只是個別事件，我很尊敬這校及喜歡她所教養的學生，所以的確要衝破 ...
作者: chu__chu    時間: 09-3-6 16:26

Hi rtam,

Just surfed by, as there are good schools everywhere in HK, Kowloon and even in the NT, I think it's not a big deal not applying to spk when you say you have to "打開心結" and all that... Afterall, I believe you daughter can do no worse in any other schools than in spk.

Just my two cents, 唔啱聽唔好打頭.

[ 本帖最後由 chu__chu 於 09-3-6 16:32 編輯 ]
作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-6 19:07

Hi Ian,

是的是的!就讓女兒去闖她的一片天,自己學習面對困難,我實在不應太緊張。

Hi Chu_chu,
或許是我太婆媽吧,把包伏放底就可以了。:loveliness:
作者: tokkibb    時間: 09-3-7 23:28

Hi rtam,
       Sorry for the late reply. I guess yours is just an exceptional case and please don't bear that in mind. In my memories, teachers and sisters are nice in most cases if you haven't done anything wrong. So I guess it was just an accident and wipe it off from your memories. May I know are you talking about the primary or secondary?
作者: 澄心媽媽    時間: 09-3-8 12:20     標題: 提議揀聖保祿-資料如下

聖保祿學校係好勁架!

我自己係spcs讀緊!

但我以下所講既野絕對唔係偏幫自己學校!

我而家中一,以前係讀軒尼詩道官立上午小學!

軒尼詩係bps既聯繫小學,而我以前考全級第一都冇入番bps,

因為spcs係好過bps!英文勁過bps好多!因為聖保祿學校(小學部)係英文小學!

其他科都好好,但唔代表bps係差!

bps都係band 1 top 女校,但始終唔夠st.paul 勁.

spcs差唔多年年會考既整體合格率都係100%,而bps係98.5%

邊個話spcs冇出過去10A? 06年就出過,唔信既話可以去呢D網睇下!

http://paper.wenweipo.com/2006/08/10/HK0608100022.htm

http://education.atnext.com/form5_form7/index.cfm?fuseaction=Form5.Article&issueID=20060810&articleID=6206718

06既仲有23位同學中六提早入大學,而bps有12-13個左右!

07年spcs都有15個!

聖保祿學校d女仔好囂,尼d人間間學校都有啦!

你不如話拔萃女書院d人囂!?

講番正題,bps係東區最好既中學,而spcs係灣仔區最好既女校!

spcs收個d外來生差唔多全部都係自己間學校考全級第一!

我入左之後d成績就差左好多,因為學校整體成績勁.

bps參加派位,所以會有d人好彩入到,

spcs唔參加派位,所以收生有保証,st. paul既kindergarten,同primary section既收生都好嚴格,中一同小一同nursery時收生,其他級唔收外來生,小學只收外藉人士,

學校由小四開始有法文班,我依家呢班就有8-10個外籍人士.

bps好好,但spcs整體上是好一些!

可以去bps和spcs的校網同小學,中學討論區看看,你會發覺成績是spcs好些.

但給人的感覺是bps校風好一些,spcs也不差,但成績方面係spcs勁一些.

而事實是確實如此，但ｓｐｃｓ校風都不差

我只是說出自己的意見,如有得罪請原諒.
參考資料 我,依家係bps就讀的小學同學

作者: rtam    時間: 09-3-8 23:31

Hi Tokkibb,

What a relief!  Thanks a lot for your positive reply.  It's happened in the secondary school.  But it doesn't matter la.  I know that it was not the school cultural, it's just an accident.  I will forget this scene and won't let it mess up my present.
:) Hope you receive good news next week.

原帖由 tokkibb 於 09-3-7 23:28 發表
Hi rtam,
       Sorry for the late reply. I guess yours is just an exceptional case and please don't bear that in mind. In my memories, teachers and sisters are nice in most cases if you haven't done ...
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-14 13:27

I am very much hesitated to put on this post but I am in the position to provide my own personal comments as a parent, on how we evaluate a school which is considered "suitable" for our children.

First, I must express my appreciation to the daughter of 澄心媽媽 for providing us such detail personal comments of SPCS.  Congratulations for being a student at SPCS and I sincerely believe it is as excellent a school as you have described.

However, hope you don't mind but I would like to provide some support information for other parents to consider.

A direct comparison between a public/ government aided & a direct subsidized secondary school, basing on academic or English standard would be an unfair one.  I am sure SPCS is a secondary school with a long history of high quality academic & English standard, and I am pretty sure no ones should deny it.

However, the issue here is that a DSS school administrates their own admission and the school itself has the right to choose EVERY SINGLE students to be admitted.  Moreover, a DSS school would have much more freedom on their own curriculum and teaching style, while public/ government aided schools would be controlled by Education Bureau.

For the case of public/ government aided schools, they are only allowed to pick 30% of their overall admission.  The remaining 70%, will be coming from their connected primary school (which are using CMI), and other students from Band 1 or even Band 2.

One point I must stress is the change of 5 bands to 3 bands, was intended to mix together better students with different level of academic standards.  As a result, this is a common issue with ANY public/ government aided schools to have admitted students which would be in lower academic standard than they used to encountered.  It is because students who used to be in Band 3 & 4, may be part of the current Band 2 nowadays.

So, please be fair and considerate to teachers of public/ government subsidized schools.  For them to still manage 98.5% passing rate (according to your suggestion) in BPS, is a much much more difficult task than having 100% in SPCS.  The key is the differences in quality of students being admitted.  Thanks to their efforts and caring that have been given to the students to make them contribute to the society, and academic result is not the only consideration.  Of course, the teachers in SPCS should also be honored with their efforts to keep a 100% passing rate, since it is also a very difficult task.

So, which school is better?  As I mentioned in other threads before, there are really no need to compare for the purpose of which is better.  It is because there will never be an absolute winner, and never should since all schools are different in various dimensions.  As parents, we need to know what is best (most suitable) for our own children only.

So as the purpose of this thread, is to provide criteria to be considered during the comparison, but not to make a subjective suggestion of which one is necessarily better.  All children are different, and the world would be too simple otherwise.

Ian

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-3-15 20:54 編輯 ]
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-16 11:11     標題: HKCEE & HKAL results

Dear all parents,

You may refer to the following links for these kindergarten's secondary section's HKCEE results:

SPCS HKCEE * HKAL results
http://ihouse.hkedcity.net/~sp1400/prospectus.pdf
(Thanks to Ms.ChanChan for the help to find this)

SHCC HKCEE & HKAL results
http://www.shcc.edu.hk/info/061107aa.pdf

Both have very good passing rate but SPCS's result is better in overall.

For your information, I constantly update any new info to my first page so all the criteria will be updated there.  Please check it out.

Ian

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 09-3-16 11:13 編輯 ]
作者: weisscarton    時間: 09-3-16 11:42

up

[ 本帖最後由 weisscarton 於 09-6-25 23:29 編輯 ]
作者: KK07    時間: 09-3-16 14:23

"2004/2/16
根據星島日報 St Paul Convent 是 9/2004 轉直資,應該仲未有轉直資後會考成績,根據這篇報導津校年代每年都有40-60位學生經派位入讀."

Correct, the 1st year's DSS students are going to attend the HKCEE this coming May.  So all the published HKCEE results were for students of SPCS when she was still a subsidized school.  I don't really want to compare the schools' public examinations' results, it is not too meaningful.  However, I would say that if you count on SPCS's good academic performance as a result of being a DSS school, it probably is not too fair.
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-17 11:14

Great news for us!  Not accepted by SPK, wait-listed only.

So, can settle with Sacred Heart!

Good luck to you all!
作者: Kpang    時間: 09-3-17 11:20

Hi Ian,

Have you received the letter?  I also guess we can receive letters today as I noticed it's games day today for SPK and the letters possibly sent out yesterday.

So nervous!  You can also completely set your heart to SH.
作者: iantsang    時間: 09-3-17 11:43

Hi Kpang,

Yes, I got the letter at 11:00am this morning.  The color of the letter is yellow, and it is for wait-listed.

I'm glad for this result, would be the best for the family and now can set our heart completely to SHCK!

Ian

原帖由 Kpang 於 09-3-17 11:20 發表
Hi Ian,

Have you received the letter?  I also guess we can receive letters today as I noticed it's games day today for SPK and the letters possibly sent out yesterday.

So nervous!  You can also comp ...




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