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作者: mattsmum 時間: 08-12-14 11:45 標題: end of the story? can't find the old discussion topic

資優生控訴港教育扼殺天才
(星島)12月14日星期日 05:30

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今年十二歲，思想與年紀不相稱的王競峯，頭頭是道地批評教育制度如何扼殺現今的年輕一代；就讀中學一年級，擁有智商一百三十七的他，小學轉過三次校，因過分「成熟」的思想，被受不公平對待。
就讀中西區聖保羅書院的王競峯，昨日以「新生」身分，參加資優教育學院迎新日。小三被評為資優生，最擅長創意寫作；但在小學時，卻因一篇作文，遭受「欺壓」，至今他仍希望可以討回公道。
　　行文太成熟被指抄襲
　　王競峯初小就讀創意小學，後來父親替他轉校至普通小學。他喜歡創意寫作，曾因一篇名為《謀殺犯》的文章引起軒然大波。文章講述一位老教授到警局自首說自己扼殺了創意，借此批評香港教育制度的不是。但因行文過於成熟，被老師認為抄襲而被「打回頭」。但他說諷刺是，他父親把這篇文章送往參賽，卻得優異獎。
　　他又曾反駁常識科老師，指黑人的曲髮是因被太陽曬得太多的說法，糾正老師是因基因的緣故，但老師卻指他錯。競峯不服，自行翻書引證，但校長最後仍認定老師正確。他謂又曾受老師冷言：「你IQ一百三十七有何用？」，備受壓力的他最終在教育局的協助下轉校。對此不公平現象，他曾寫信予特首
曾蔭權表達對此事的不滿，但收到回覆是在處理中。
　　糾正錯處師冷言相向
　　無獨有偶，競峯的兩個哥哥都是資優兒童，從事化驗工作的父親王先生謂，他為每個兒子都定下一個使命，希望大兒子解決痛楚、醫療法律問題、二兒子解決人類居住問題；最小的競峯，期望他可解決地球上的食物、食水問題。他認為既然有天分，就該好好利用。
　　面對三個資優兒子在學習都面對不同問題，他認為是現在的教育制度扼殺了下一代。雖兒子智商高於別人，但他堅持不讓兒子跳級，「知識可以跳級，但人生不能跳級」，因為不能賠童年給孩子。
　　記者黃佩英

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作者: hogwarts 時間: 08-12-14 15:19

hi mattsmum,

The original thread is in 小一選校， it is a never ending story la. Prof Yau has already said that he will follow up more on the case but sadly enough, he has not quoted any different view in the Dec issue of 信報月刊.

SPC may be a good choice for his son, with good variety of ECA and enough room for different opinions. Please just no more gifted child is always right stuff.

By the way, there are many IQ 137s in this world and still can work together well with others, with IQ 137s, below as a team.

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作者: mattsmum 時間: 09-1-24 12:22 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

there is a follow up by the same author in december's信報月刊.

as dr. cornard had accepted him, I would think skh is not that old fashion.

作者: mattsmum 時間: 09-1-24 13:32 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

here is the link to the first article:何處有仁?何處有義?
http://www.discuss.com.hk/redire ... 8&goto=lastpost

作者: mattsmum 時間: 09-1-25 10:27 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

i must say how uncomfortable I am after reading the whole article, does anyone know the author's background?

作者: hogwarts 時間: 09-1-27 21:40

Hi mattsmum,

The topic in 小一選校 was found and was pushed back to the page 1 for your info.

Prof You is a Marketing Professor in the City U and a regular contributor of the HK Economic Journal Monthly and other marketing journals.

You can find him singing in the AOL link below:

http://video.aol.com/video-detail//2644092845/?icid=VIDURVENT04

About the boy, we shall wish him all the best because the drama, unfolded around him, should not become a taboo of his.

Yes, Dr. K might have admitted him with all the reasons in the world, such as his father had applied for the school and he was a right candidate or SKH did this to make up the mistake by one of their schools. Priority must be the boy's welfare and I wish that it might be the right school for him.

No matter what, I still think the father should not just blame everyone on the path, without any self-reexamination. Also, Prof You is not a guru of any kind.

作者: chanpa 時間: 09-1-28 00:48

I feel sad about the story of 小麥. He is ill-treated by the so-called teachers/headmaster whose authority are being challenged. I pray that God blesses 小麥 in the new secondary school.

Don't worry about the bad teachers and headmaster who have low IQ(低B) but need faces.

With high EQ/positive thinking, just work hard and fight for the right. Changing the negative force/experience into the positive driving force for the future.

作者: edexp 時間: 09-1-30 21:20

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作者: hogwarts 時間: 09-1-30 23:48

果然是变成 never-ending story 了, 因为游教授又在他的信報月刋二月号地盤 update 了大家一下,他和他老友如何繼續「追尋公義之旅」！

因為不懂如何上载文章，請买信報月刋二月号，或有烦  im_cyt 网友可否再次幫助上载了。

在追看最新發展後，不禁有下面感慨：

1.  从孩子问守法不一定是好人一例，他好像越來越懂得问刁鑽问题，他的世界也好像越來黑白、勝負分明。

他也許不明白和不知道，在真正曾有見死不救事例之国度，正是不懂守法之祖国，在香港这个出鑽法律空子的雷曼事件之地，卻有多次因救人而犧牲自己性命之事例。这不幸变化，大人的鼓励，必不能脫責。辯才無礙，卻欠智慧及洞見之力，又如何？

2.  文章把 SKH 代表寫成好像胆大到，公然在教署代表面前，要用錢收买王某。不論真偽，讀文章致此，真是悲哀莫明。
最近读一小书，說及 insult， SKH 的沉默，我开始有點懂了:

"When a gentleman has been subjected to a conscious insult, either in public or in private, his response is simple.  Because he is a gentleman, he says nothing at all."

高 IQ，高道德標準，懂現代 marketing 的，大概会笑 gentlemanliness was just yesterday's fair dos.

3.  要恭喜游教授了，他又向 gifted education guru 之路，踏前一大步了。

4.  回到起点，王老爸还不知或不认萬事皆因"非洲太陽太过猛！"，原來公義是由一個錯誤的認知开始。明天要给孩子好好補課！

总算知道：资優≠幸福 (其实本來想寫智慧、寬容、winwin 之類，但怕被歸入不公義及反资優一族，祇好寫幸福。)

作者: chanpa 時間: 09-1-30 23:57

原帖由 edexp 於 09-1-30 21:20 發表
"I feel sad about the storyof 小麥." -- 同意,

但:

"He is ill-treated by the so-called teachers/headmaster whoseauthority are being challenged. " -- 不大同意

他其實是 ill-treated by 他的父親 just ...

edexp

You are totally wrong.

小麥's conduct is good before P.4. After change of teachers and headmaster in P.5, his conduct is dropped greatly. His father's influence is insignificant because his father has already made 小麥 bad conduct from P.2 to P.4. Therefore, it is proved that the father is not in the case. In conclusion, this is the fault of changed teachers and headmaster who make this worse situation.

For me, I love my son together with a team of professionals such two psychiatrists, a number of social workers, a professor, a doctor, two psychologists working with my son's disabilities.
Does the previous school co-operate me to work with my son? Absolutely NO. The previous school is just fault finding. I have already given the previous school all the necessary professional documents.

edexp (so called educational expert)
Am I right?

You should apologise to me, my son, and the professional team.

作者: hogwarts 時間: 09-1-31 00:31

hi edexp and chanpa,

Although the two cases are stories unfolded around students with special education needs, the two parents took very different approachs towards the mistreatments.

One puts himself on the moral high ground and opens fire at free will. While chanpa wrote warning and ran around like hell to get help for his son, the name of the school, which has mistreated chanpa's boy, was not disclosed in public.

When Prof You & Mr Wong are still tightening the rope around SKH's neck to-day, by suggesting that the SKH wanted to use money to buy themselves out of the trouble, chanpa thanks a lot of people along his road of struggle.

Chanpa, I hope you will not reveal the school name, as you did in BK, in the coming Pearl Review as well.

So edexp, I concur with chanpa, he does not mistreat his son in anyway.

作者: edexp 時間: 09-1-31 13:16

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作者: chanpa 時間: 09-1-31 23:15

原帖由 edexp 於 09-1-31 13:16 發表
"You should apologise to me, my son, and the professional team."

-- Sorry, I don't think so.

In fact, you and the father of 小麥 are in fact the same kind of person. The difference is just the deg ...

edexp,

I don't understand all you say.

What are a lot of better ways to handle my son's case? You say I just use an inappropriate way and manner towards the school. The school first did wrong things on my son. How should I do for the school? However, you say you don't want to discuss in details as it will be a long story. This is very contradictory and ridiculous.

"My explanation is very simple: 一條鑰匙不會嚮"

你是不是讀書人？邊間學校畢業，簡直胡說八道。

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 09-1-31 23:16

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作者: edexp 時間: 09-2-2 18:39

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作者: hogwarts 時間: 09-2-2 19:40

Hi edexp,

Your "logic" is easy be seemed as; just a dogmatic approach towards a modern day's problem.  Yes, the conduct of Chanpa's child could be ranked as dissatisfactory according to the rule book of many schools.  But to-day's schools should learn how to help those students with behavioural problem, no matter they were SEN or just spoilt.

Yes, chanpa did blame the school for making the situation worse and, even that was not uncommon among many spoiler type parents, did not justify some of the school's actions.  Same in the case of 小麥 , most of the friends in bk did not stand with Mr. Wong, but it did not mean the school had done the right things with no room for improvements or giving an apology.

So, in trusting you as an expert in the area, could you kindly educate us what is the right response?

Finally, chanpa and many of bk friends' level might be looked upon as "low level" but even Mr. Wong was a loving father and should be respected.

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作者: edexp 時間: 09-2-3 11:21

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作者: mattsmum 時間: 09-2-3 11:23 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

"最近读一小书，說及 insult， SKH 的沉默，我开始有點懂了:

"When a gentleman has been subjected to a conscious insult, either in public or in private, his response is simple. Because he is a gentleman, he says nothing at all." "

thank you for this.

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