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作者: hcheng 時間: 08-11-27 14:01 標題: 係唔係入唔到名校，是否一切？
昨日同一個親戚傾開小一入學問題，佢用一啲好唔好啲語氣問乜唔係入依間，果間! (註：依間，果間都係名校) 我都唔知點樣答佢！昨晚諗番佢講過嘅嘢，成晚瞓唔倒，不禁想到唔通入唔到名校，是否一切！
其實我囝囝考到陳守仁同埋抽到間本區幾好嘅津小，但怕幾年後細囡考小學時競爭仲大(因佢今年考KG，間間都有幾千人考，申請直資時都唔知咁誇張)，加上嗰間津小又係基督教學校，所以放棄陳守仁，都唔知依個決定係咪錯呢？
因怕同另一半講嗰個親戚啲嘢，而令到佢唔開心，所以借此呻吓，請見諒！
[ 本帖最後由 hcheng 於 08-12-15 13:26 編輯 ]
作者: Reximom 時間: 08-11-27 14:07
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作者: dimmy 時間: 08-11-27 14:15
Of course not, school is just a place for training up the kid. There are so many other factors as well.
P1 is just a starting point. As parents, we want to let the kid study with good peers, not the name of school. I can't deny that the peers and background of parents whose kids study in famous schools may be stronger (in general) in support of kids' development. It doesn't mean your kid can't achieve well if he studies in a local school. The quality of kid also depends on the role model of the kids, the parents. This is my own opinion. You may not agree. I grew up in Ngau Tau Kok Estate and studied in a local primary school and band 2/3 secondary school. But I have been working well and completed my higher degree 15 years ago. ( I guess many people from all levels can achieve that.) A famous school may give a better starting point only. That is why I also try to put my kid in a good school but it does not decide the final point. Simply, it is not suprised to see poor students from these 'famous schools;.
No need to be upset.
原帖由 hcheng 於 08-11-27 14:01 發表 
昨日同一個親戚傾開小一入學問題，佢用一啲好唔好啲語氣問乜唔係入依間，果間! (註：依間，果間都係名校) 我都唔知點樣答佢！昨晚諗番佢講過嘅嘢，成晚瞓唔倒，不禁想到唔通入唔到名校，咁就一世！
其實我囝囝考到陳守仁同埋抽到間本 ...
[ 本帖最後由 dimmy 於 08-11-27 14:21 編輯 ]
作者: BBR 時間: 08-11-27 14:17
讀唔讀到書小朋友大左就知,唔讀名校唔代表無得出人頭地,最憎D白鴿眼人:;pppp: ,駛咩理D人講咩,個個講就叻,做就
,最緊要你清楚你自己個小朋友,其他人駛咩理
作者: loy211 時間: 08-11-27 14:18
親戚朋友說的話不大重要,你最清楚自己的小朋友需要什麼,對不?
作者: jovemama 時間: 08-11-27 14:26
原帖由 hcheng 於 08-11-27 14:01 發表
昨日同一個親戚傾開小一入學問題，佢用一啲好唔好啲語氣問乜唔係入依間，果間! (註：依間，果間都係名校) 我都唔知點樣答佢！昨晚諗番佢講過嘅嘢，成晚瞓唔倒，不禁想到唔通入唔到名校，咁就一世！
其實我囝囝考到陳守仁同埋抽到間本 ...
作者: pearjadema 時間: 08-11-27 15:59
原帖由 hcheng 於 08-11-27 14:01 發表
昨日同一個親戚傾開小一入學問題，佢用一啲好唔好啲語氣問乜唔係入依間，果間! (註：依間，果間都係名校) 我都唔知點樣答佢！昨晚諗番佢講過嘅嘢，成晚瞓唔倒，不禁想到唔通入唔到名校，咁就一世！
其實我囝囝考到陳守仁同埋抽到間本 ...
Hello hcheng,
自己最清楚自己想要既野, 自己住既附近有個不錯既offer又可惠及妹妹比我都會咁選擇, 每個人都有自己既一套好難做到個個認同自己, 信自己啦唔哂理d冇謂人
[ 本帖最後由 pearjadema 於 08-11-27 16:07 編輯 ]
作者: 大鴨媽 時間: 08-11-27 16:41
of course not la
it is quite understandable.
school is just a place for child to learn, can learn how much very much depends on the child.
family is the most important place for learning.
the most important thing is your kid find learning is fun at this stage.
原帖由 hcheng 於 08-11-27 14:01 發表
昨日同一個親戚傾開小一入學問題，佢用一啲好唔好啲語氣問乜唔係入依間，果間! (註：依間，果間都係名校) 我都唔知點樣答佢！昨晚諗番佢講過嘅嘢，成晚瞓唔倒，不禁想到唔通入唔到名校，咁就一世！
其實我囝囝考到陳守仁同埋抽到間本 ...
作者: KLLP 時間: 08-11-27 16:48
Totally agreed.
Getting into a more establisehed school is just a start, both the child and the parent have to work hard (I don't mean doing a lot of exercise but to educating your child and guide him/her on the right track) on it.
原帖由 大鴨媽 於 08-11-27 16:41 發表
of course not la
it is quite understandable.
school is just a place for child to learn, can learn how much very much depends on the child.
family is the most important place for learning.
the most ...
[ 本帖最後由 KLLP 於 08-11-27 16:50 編輯 ]
作者: 阿西 時間: 08-11-27 17:12
而家D人考名校唔同我地果代，我地果時真係好叻好叻果D先敢去考，但呢代，考名校係好大眾化，人人都去爭下，所以家長就好大壓力，加上咁多直資，以前好多好既津校都輪為二線，好似唔值錢咁，社會風氣係咁，作為江湖中一員，點會感受唔到壓力，只有自己盡量去平衝。
就黎失控果陣，我會小D上BK，呢度，都幾competitive。
[ 本帖最後由 阿西 於 08-11-27 17:13 編輯 ]
作者: Crabtree 時間: 08-11-27 17:19
其實你都不必理會他人所說, 自己父母難道唔知邊條路係對自己小朋友對嗎? 名校係學習風氣較好, 但唔代表屋邨學校差, 近幾年屋邨中學亦可以係會考及高考出到狀元, 成績亦開始迎頭趕上呢?
作者: LS+MCS 時間: 08-11-27 17:33
原帖由 hcheng 於 08-11-27 14:01 發表
昨日同一個親戚傾開小一入學問題，佢用一啲好唔好啲語氣問乜唔係入依間，果間! (註：依間，果間都係名校) 我都唔知點樣答佢！昨晚諗番佢講過嘅嘢，成晚瞓唔倒，不禁想到唔通入唔到名校，咁就一世！
其實我囝囝考到陳守仁同埋抽到間本 ...
In life, you may find if difficult to please everybody. Sometimes, people drive you mad for no reason at all. As long as you've done nothing wrong, the truth will come out one day. Time will prove.
作者: 阿西 時間: 08-11-27 17:53
原帖由 LS+MCS 於 08-11-27 17:33 發表
people drive you mad for no reason at all
Exactly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: 毛妹 時間: 08-11-28 13:54
要視乎你囝囝係咩類喇！如果資質好，當然比佢讀好學校。但如果不愛讀書，就無謂入名校啦！
我覺得我囡囡好學積極，所以揀名校比佢。最後Good Hope 收咗！反而有朋友問我：「點解唔揀就近學校，要坐校車咁辛苦？點解唔問下囡囡鐘意讀邊間？你揀晒d名校，你要求幾高啫！入附近學校機會率大d喎！」
我覺得有d人唔想我囡囡入名校就咁講，我決定以後唔會理人點講。
作者: 060905 時間: 08-11-28 14:02
揀名校俾小朋友讀只係想佢行條好路, 但唔代表讀名校一定讀得叻, 都要個小朋友爭氣先得架, 所以入到名校當bonus羅, 盈盈下年入名校幼稚園, 希望佢爭爭氣氣啦！
原帖由 毛妹 於 08-11-28 13:54 發表
要視乎你囝囝係咩類喇！如果資質好，當然比佢讀好學校。但如果不愛讀書，就無謂入名校啦！
我覺得我囡囡好學積極，所以揀名校比佢。最後Good Hope 收咗！反而有朋友問我：「點解唔揀就近學校，要坐校車咁辛苦？點解唔問下囡囡鐘意讀邊 ...
作者: calipama 時間: 08-11-28 14:34
名校一樣有垃圾家長同垃圾學生,
官津校一樣有好家長同好學生!
作者: mymelody2003 時間: 08-11-28 15:03
其實我都聽過身邊朋友講出類似說話 
, 起初我同你一樣, 懷疑自己是否選錯學校呢? 因為我選學校時必須近屋企, 再加上top小學真係好難爭, 顧慮實太多了, 最後選了間中上小學....
在自行階段幸運地囝囝抽中了, 真係唔想為左某一些人既說話而變改, 現在大吹世係去考直資/私校, 或你唔選最top既津校有人會用好寄怪既眼光去睇你, 但我認為我才知道哪些學校適合囝囝 
作者: ericby 時間: 08-11-28 16:19
大誇張!!
作者: mow-mow 時間: 08-11-28 16:23
You can please some peolpe some of the time but you cannot please everybody all of the time.
If you don't choose famous school, some peolpe may look down on you.
But if you do choose famous school, some peolpe will say that you only use your children to show off.
Whatever you do, someone somewhere will have something unpleasant to say.
So forget it - just do what you feel is the right thing.
作者: goodmama2003 時間: 08-11-28 16:46
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作者: Ben2003 時間: 08-11-28 19:30
原帖由 mow-mow 於 08-11-28 16:23 發表
Whatever you do, someone somewhere will have something unpleasant to say.
So forget it - just do what you feel is the right thing.
作者: 妙mill 時間: 08-11-28 19:50
前兩個星期,"壹週刊"有一篇訪問,即將被殺校的釋智慧中學的校長蔡榮甜先生.
他有一段講得發人心省:他說以他的理解,越近維多利亞港的學校,banding 越高. 他以前讀"英華",老師經常叫學生們自修的.他的老友田家炳中學校長,讀的學校還利害,老師嫌學生太吵就話:再嘈教書!
蔡先生說,他們的 band 3 學校教師,可真的用心教學生的,只是學生的背景有別.出來的效果也有別.
所以,入得名校,家長的承擔固然不少.但亦要撫心自問,那是否一所真正合適你的小朋友去讀的學校呢!他進入了此學校是否就能扶搖直上,出人頭地,飛黃騰達........或者,起碼的開心學習呢!
作者: TikTikmami 時間: 08-11-28 20:04
As parents, we all expect the best for our kids. Those aiming at 'famous' schools including me want to pave a better way for their childs but it is not the only way and not the most important one.
Don't be upset. If you feel 'guilty' not choosing the 'famous' schools for your kids, please please give them a big hug tonight and tell them how much you love them. You'll feel better because all you did is for them.
Cheer up!
p.s. I only choose the 'famous' schools close to my home.
作者: 2046 時間: 08-11-28 20:15
Just take the best available option on hand. Consider your child and your own expectation. Not others, even relatives. After all, you know your child better than anyone else. Suitable one is more important than famous one.
作者: mamimummy 時間: 08-11-28 23:27
唔好介意成我講少少. 有時讀完名校居要職的, 都慨歎自己的童年, 所以他們都不讓子女重蹈覆轍, 而希望要求快樂學習的同時更要有空間去思考同見多識廣, 他們好明白以往名校所帶給他們的已未必切合將來的世界. 因為佢地深深體會到香港名校學生都是少了一點…..當我地接觸高薪的外求上師時, 有時發現 我們老了---老得很累, 因為我們從小就併搏, 我們不窮, 就只窮了從小的快樂同探索能力. 比起上來, 我們好像一個老人,
讀完書就想塭份工 (退休安享晚年, 得以休息. ) 而別人就好像剛學行的小孩, 帶著所學的起步去闖, 所以別人還有無窮的魄力和創造力的同時我們已走得很累. 如果名校真係可以變魔術, 那麼我們身邊應該有好多名校人士?! 唔好介意喇! LS, DBS SPCC… 街坊小學無必要比. 最重要做到開心, 識到好同學最重要.
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原帖由 妙mill 於 08-11-28 19:50 發表
前兩個星期,"壹週刊"有一篇訪問,即將被殺校的釋智慧中學的校長蔡榮甜先生.
他有一段講得發人心省:他說以他的理解,越近維多利亞港的學校,banding 越高. 他以前讀"英華",老師經常叫學生們自修的.他的老友田家炳中學校 ...
[ 本帖最後由 mamimummy 於 08-11-29 16:41 編輯 ]
作者: ryanyui 時間: 08-11-29 07:36
hey! nowaday "幾好嘅津小" is a kind of 名校喎! u know why i need to apply dss school? cos my love 官立manymany people apply! if i can enter that school, sure i will give up those so-called "名校" u said!
so dont 妄自菲薄!
原帖由 hcheng 於 08-11-27 14:01 發表
昨日同一個親戚傾開小一入學問題，佢用一啲好唔好啲語氣問乜唔係入依間，果間! (註：依間，果間都係名校) 我都唔知點樣答佢！昨晚諗番佢講過嘅嘢，成晚瞓唔倒，不禁想到唔通入唔到名校，咁就一世！
其實我囝囝考到陳守仁同埋抽到間本 ...
作者: ryanyui 時間: 08-11-29 07:53
我心儀嘅官立, 得60個位, 攞咗30個位自行收生, 結果要36個位先收得哂"自己人", 剩24個位大抽獎! 您話係咪仲難入過co-ed! 所以我唯有被迫入"直資名校"!
作者: lola2008 時間: 08-11-29 08:56
我都知揀學校要睇自己個仔女，但而家的小朋友好多變架，好似我個女，鍾意玩、鍾意睇電視，擒高擒低冇時停，但又會揸住本百科全書睇，教佢讀成語咭，3盒夾埋百幾張，佢可以記晒一號係Muk嘢、二號係Muk嘢、三號係Muk、四號係Muk........百幾個，咁你話應該俾佢讀啲活動教學定係傳統果啲，我做阿媽都諗佐好耐，最後我都揀咗傳統名校俾佢，希望無揀錯啦。
作者: hcheng 時間: 08-12-1 12:10
很多謝各位嘅回覆／安慰／支持，經過多日巳經感覺好D，謝謝！
祝大家成功！
作者: FITTI 時間: 08-12-8 15:25
原帖由 lola2008 於 08-11-29 08:56 發表
我都知揀學校要睇自己個仔女，但而家的小朋友好多變架，好似我個女，鍾意玩、鍾意睇電視，擒高擒低冇時停，但又會揸住本百科全書睇，教佢讀成語咭，3盒夾埋百幾張，佢可以記晒一號係Muk嘢、二號係Muk嘢、三號係Muk、四號係Muk....... ...
你個囡囡好叻...呀,成語都識.
作者: Yummie 時間: 08-12-8 16:01
Dear all,
after reading all your words, I want releasing my pressure and anger here.
I have 2 friends who have girls also applying P1 next year. In before, they kept telling me that they would pick a school that's not the toppest (eg: St. Mary & Marynoll) as they afraided the competition (even when we chatted in Nov, i.e. after we submit the P1 form for 1st round allocation).
Then...both them telling me that they finally got seats from St. Mary in 1st round. 1 of them even told me that she had no idea (of finally pick St. Mary) before cos all handled by her husband.
My girl couldn't get the place this round which I understand it is all about "total marks" & "luck" but I never thought others would tell lie for this minor thing.
I know nothing i can do except try our luck again in 2nd round. Just hard to take people doing like this.
作者: chunchunmommy 時間: 08-12-8 23:46
Haha..I think we applied the same school!
原帖由 ryanyui 於 08-11-29 07:53 發表
我心儀嘅官立, 得60個位, 攞咗30個位自行收生, 結果要36個位先收得哂"自己人", 剩24個位大抽獎! 您話係咪仲難入過co-ed! 所以我唯有被迫入"直資名校"!
[ 本帖最後由 chunchunmommy 於 08-12-8 23:47 編輯 ]
作者: Yummie 時間: 08-12-9 10:08
be honest...it doesn't matter how many mummies applied same school for their kids as it is understandable. All parents would like to get the best for the kids.
However, I hate people making thing so complicated & telling lie even on what school applying. My husband said they might afraid be teasing if fail to get a place.
Anyway, I wish we all can get an ideal place for kids.
作者: cat_house 時間: 08-12-14 13:31
係唔係入唔到名校，咁就一世?
of course not. I remember my mon told me that I was not admitted by a primary school but my cousin was. But time proved that the school made a mistake as my HKCEE result was far better than my cousin and I prove to be a better girl to my mon than my cousin, who continued her secondary school of a better brand than mine.
I believe that every child should be responsible for his/her life. As parent, I hope to provide them a better environment so as to develop them to possess the skill and manner to manage their own life. Putting them into 名校, to me, just hope to reduce the chance of their meeting bad friends. I don't think we should rely on solely on the simple statistics of getting into band 1 secondary school or prestige university in the future. It's all depends on the quality of the children.
作者: davidmimi 時間: 08-12-14 20:14
呢個標題"係唔係入唔到名校，咁就一世?"根本就有問題。
讀唔到書係咪就一世呀??
搵唔到好工係咪就一世呀??
嫁唔出咪就一世呀??
XXXXXXXXX咪就一世呀??
CCCCCCCCC咪就一世呀??
EEEEEEEEE咪就一世呀??
除左"自殺"呢個決定係會一世,無事情係會影響一世,因為之後還可以作出調整/努力.
但係,考名校絕無問題,任何情形,都應該選擇最有利位置,唔得就再作應變....這個就是人生了.
作者: miutang 時間: 08-12-15 06:40
一次過看完這個thread, 發現最後的一個才最發人深省.
agree
"但係,考名校絕無問題,任何情形,都應該選擇最有利位置,唔得就再作應變....這個就是人生了."
試過唔得 --> 無憾. 一切隨緣.
作者: minghei_mama 時間: 08-12-15 11:31
我認同名校會好些... 但不一定要去讀名校... 名校絕對不是一切
"名校"做得名校一定有很多優點, . 但每個小朋友及家庭背景都不一樣... 不能一概而論..
若小朋友讀到名校.. 由小至大側邊都系"叻人", "社交圈"及體驗等與一般小學真的會不同... 可以講真系好d... 條路"可能"真系會好行d. 你知hk哋經常有人講"識人好過識字" .. 但如果有個人實力.. 一樣可以很好及有成就...只不過可能要花多些功夫或時間．． hk 不是有很多”hk故事”的高官／猛人嗎 ？再者 , 名校出身的又如何? 你周不時身邊都出現"滿身銅嗅" 及"無品" 的人..
要讀名校... 或私校... 其實睇家長想小朋友點...
揀校要考慮及平衡幾個大項便ok了, 作為家長做了"應做"及"可做"的已十分足夠, :額外"的有是會變成負擔...
1. 經濟能力.. 每個月幾千, 若2個小朋友, 仲襟計.. 暫時是6年計劃.. 但這些小學之升中又如何.. ? 同時, 因為你付出很大 ( $$$ ), 你可能又希望得大... 小朋友一有小問題. 問題被放大了去處理就不好啦...
2. 學校教學模式(勁谷的或開心的或體藝的)同自己小朋友配合到嗎 ??若小朋友讀得不好或不開心, 影響很大.
3. 小學校網及升中情況..
4. 地區, 太遠大人都頂唔順啦.. 何況小朋友...
5. 校風 ...這個不用我講啦... 有時名校件件名牌, 家長日d亞媽好似出show咁..
6. 家長之投入時間... 若自己都無時間同小朋友溫書做project, 揀了間"谷"的咪大家都辛苦囉....
7. 宗教, 又buy 唔buy 先...好hardsell嗰d又ok嗎?
8. 其他... 家家有本難言...
任何事都不平衡 ... 否則好事會變成壞事.
作者: wlmom 時間: 08-12-15 12:53
I also know some people that are like this. that's why i also feel so pissed when people say how they don't like this or that "名校" openly but secretly they strive to get their kids in. and when they failed they continue with their statements of those 名校; but if they succeed, they just show off around. hate those people.
原帖由 Yummie 於 08-12-8 16:01 發表
Dear all,
after reading all your words, I want releasing my pressure and anger here.
I have 2 friends who have girls also applying P1 next year. In before, they kept telling me that they would pick ...
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