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標題: ISF 未能符合IBO要求，最終放棄伸請MYP [打印本頁]
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-11-20 09:05 標題: ISF 未能符合IBO要求，最終放棄伸請MYP
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作者: warrrren 時間: 08-11-20 13:09
I have lost interest in BK since long ago but been referred to this post by an ISF parent.
Does anyone know the TRUE and UNDERLINING reasons?
I do.
I guess everybody knows that ISF has a no-Cantonese on campus policy. This, unfortunately, is against the "mother tongue first" policy of MYP. IBO reckons that we should not prohibit the use of Cantonese in favour of two foreign languages ( for some reasons IBO considers Putonghua foreign). This matter has been the centre of discussions between IBO and the school for over 12 months. I have no idea how the issue will be resolved at the end. And I honestly don't care. Some schools may choose to back away from their own missions and settle on the lesser. I for one am entirely for the Putonghua/English immersion approach taken by ISF, which in my view is one a kind and more forward looking. If ISF is to abandon the immersion approach to satisfy IBO, I will be the first one to kiss the school goodbye.
It is of course not easy to go a different way. But I'm loving it.
Happy as ever.
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-11-20 14:15
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作者: warrrren 時間: 08-11-20 15:28
Aren't there some primary sources to refer to and some offical documents for everyone to read?
作者: almom 時間: 08-11-20 15:30
It is difficult to say how other schools have done it. There are so many other things IBO would consider when they see whether a school qualifies to be an IB school. Each school is different. As far as the language situation is concerned, I believe RC is quite different from ISF.
RC is an English medium school. All students uses English during all classes (except Chinese classes) starting from Year 1. Whether you are Japanese, French, or African, you learn with English. English might not be your mother tongue, but you are expected to use English just like it is your mother tongue, and are expected to have English standard just like it is your mother tongue. Chinese language at RC is just an additional language. Some students are good at Chinese and some have standard compatible to local school students. But this is still a minority. Roughly one-quarter to one-third of the students (including chinese and non-chinese kids) are learning Chinese as a second language. Most of these students have never learned Chinese before and they need to learn from "the beginning". So I believe, RC has to take English to be the first language.
As far as I understand, RC do not have any language policy regarding the use of mother tongue within the school because there are students from different nationalities. Students are free to speak French, Finish, Korean, Cantonese etc outside classrooms during break time. But the main language used to learn and to communicate is still English. English is used as a first language and is taught as a first language. And the "private" use of Finish or French do not seem to have jeopardised the qulification of English to be a first language at RC.
I do not know what the criteria of "first language" are with IB. But I believe not all those criteria are applicable to all schools. And, honestly, if parents and students are happy with a school, it does not matter whether it is an IB school or not.
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-11-20 15:55
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作者: Saturn 時間: 08-11-20 21:11
**there was not much use to apply accreditation for PYP and MYP as there was no need to waste money for accreditation and maintenance so far the school could still follow a similar format and curriculum of PYP and MYP**
I also heard that the principal of CKY had also given the statement similar to the above in the curriculum talk with parents of their students.
It still confuses me up to now whether IB PYP and MYP are really necessary/advantages for students planning to take IBD? Anyone can give comments? Thanks.
Saturn.
原帖由 wisekid2007 於 08-11-20 15:55 發表 
I think that CIS and VSA also adopt similar approach towards languages like RC as they also use English as their major medium of instructions in all the teaching except during the Chinese lessons that ...
作者: Grapes 時間: 08-11-20 23:24
I was an ex-parent of the ISF and my child has been moved out of the ISF starting from this year. As far as I know, a number of students in my child's grade have been transferred to another school because it is not value for money.
作者: almom 時間: 08-11-21 09:21
原帖由 wisekid2007 於 08-11-20 15:55 發表
***And, honestly, if parents and students are happy with a school, it does not matter whether it is an IB school or not.***
Basically, it is true only for those rational parents but not for those ISF die hard fans.
I think I was trying to speak from a realistic point. Try putting your feet in those parents shoes. If the school is now unable to get approval, then it simply cannot. That's it. Of course, some disappointed parents might want to know why. But knowing why does not help the students that are already with the school. OK, even if the school says that they are now willing to make certain changes in order to meet with IB criteria, it is going to take some time to really be able to transit smoothly.
I think the best way is that parent really think whether they like the school. It has been running for some time now. I am not surprised some people do not like the school and have left. No schools can please everyone.
If parents really think the fact that ISF is unable to be an IB approved MYP school is a big problem, then may be they should look around for places in other schools. Do not waste time scolding and hating your child's school everyday.
If parents really like the school, and to the extend that whether ISF is IB approved is not important, I fully support their decision.
Life is never as perfect as we wish. I have friends with children in ISF too. From what I understand, although ISF does not meet my own needs, it is still a good school. And it appears to me that many parents and children like this school a lot.
And THAT is the most important, isn't it?
作者: almom 時間: 08-11-21 10:13
I also heard that the principal of CKY had also given the statement similar to the above in the curriculum talk with parents of their students.
I know that quite a number of schools have put forth with such ideas to parents. I think, if they are responsible educationalists, they should not have said something like that.
If they do not want to go through getting IB accreditation, then simply say so. The term "IB" should not be used as a marketing tool.
I do not want to challenge those who said the statement that you claimed they have. They are supposed to be the professionals, and they should have responsibilities to giving out the correct information to parents.
However, I do not think we need to be an expert in any respect to tell the differences between getting accreditation and not getting accreditation. It is not just a matter of paying certain inspection fees and getting an official chop or certificate for display.
Actually getting accreditation means that a school meets all criteria and will be doing what IB wants them to do. IB schools are getting regular inspections, so that IBO know that schools are doing what they should be doing. No accreditation means no regulations from IBO. And who know whether everything is done according to the criteria of IB.
It still confuses me up to now whether IB PYP and MYP are really necessary/advantages for students planning to take IBD? Anyone can give comments?
With the presumption that a parent like IB program because he is considering IBD for his child, I would say it is definitely best if you start from an MYP school, or even better from PYP.
Education is a process. The time children spent in an MYP school (or even better from PYP school as well), would have them better prepared for their later years in senior high school.
However, of course, practically speaking, you do not need to be in MYP to go to IBD. In fact, you do not need to be in IBD to go to top universities. All roads lead to Rome.
作者: sabun 時間: 08-11-21 14:11
If ISF can't offer MYP ,may be they need to
decrease the school fee!Is it worth
to study here without IB but with a high school
fee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-11-21 16:35
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作者: Grapes 時間: 08-11-21 23:11
Actually on Day I when ISF submitted their application to IBO as candidate school, ISF should be fully aware of the fact that their language policy would have clash with IBO policy. Then why ISF still proceeded with their application and told their parrents that they would get the accreditation of MYP very soon? I think there may be other reasons why they cannot get the accreditation. Just my two cents views.
作者: almom 時間: 08-11-23 08:40
I think I no longer want to take part in this thread. The topic or the subject of discussion has once again been twisted.
作者: bobodad 時間: 08-11-23 10:00
如果睇開"教育王國"的Daddy, Mummy, 應該會留意到wisekid2007-----囝囝讀"德瑞", 但非常熱衷於去其他與他無關的學校去發表他的"偉論"!
無錯, 各抒己見係好事, 但每次見佢都係在"插"其他學校, 長篇大論----可能"德瑞"訓練到佢囝囝好獨立, 令佢太多時間太得閒; 佢仲特別對ISF, local傳統名小學有特別偏好-----插! 
作者: ettawong 時間: 08-11-23 11:17
原帖由 bobodad 於 08-11-23 10:00 發表
如果睇開"教育王國"的Daddy, Mummy, 應該會留意到wisekid2007-----囝囝讀"德瑞", 但非常熱衷於去其他與他無關的學校去發表他的"偉論"!
無錯, 各抒己見係好事, 但每次見佢都係在"插"其他學校, 長篇大論----可能"德 ...
bobodad,
I share the same view with you.
Actually, German Swiss also had management problem with the recent renovation work. If the die-hard GSIS fans is a fair person, s/he should share that with us too.
I am also glad that someone pointed out the issues of ISF, so that more parents will think carefully before they apply or accept the offers. Really hope that my children will have a better chance to get into ISF.
作者: sabun 時間: 08-11-23 20:51
Yes, I am agree,There are no perfect school,Just
find the one to fit you!I hope ISF will give you an offer!ISF is not a perfect school,It still have a lot of things need to improve.Give it some times,Its really a good school!
作者: mj2002 時間: 08-11-23 21:11
Hi Sabun,
I totally agree with you.
I think many parents have misunstand the PYP, MYP and DP that organised by IBO. Pls go into theit website and study hard before giving comments.
作者: Saturn 時間: 08-11-24 09:19
Hi Almom,
Thanks for your reply with appreciation.
Saturn.
原帖由 almom 於 08-11-21 10:13 發表
I know that quite a number of schools have put forth with such ideas to parents. I think, if they are responsible educationalists, they should not have said something like that.
If they do not want ...
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-11-24 11:57
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作者: sabun 時間: 08-11-24 13:54
I really don't know why wisekid2007 hate ISF so
much.May be there were something between
them.And she say,no one know IBO more then her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Who is she????????
And I would like to say I am not a stupid parent!
作者: li2008 時間: 08-11-24 14:56
我是路過的。
雖然每間學校都有不善之處，道其優劣，讓人們自行判決不是就成嗎？但看你經常嘲諷別人stupid，都知你係「天才」喇！仲係無品果隻添！
原帖由 wisekid2007 於 08-11-24 12:05 發表
Dear stupid parant,
What's wrong if I shared my views and comments on other schools, unless my views or comments are non-sense or rubbish?
If you really thought that my views or comments are non-se ...
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-11-24 15:35
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作者: bobodad 時間: 08-11-24 18:28
我絕對相信wisekid2007有心理問題!
口口聲聲話其他家長係"stupid parent", "low quality parents", "ignorant parent"可見佢幾自大又無品, 人格之差, 相信所有BK家長有目共睹!
自以為自己的意見一定是"對"的! 其他人的意見永遠係" non-sense or rubbish here who can't think any logical and sensible argument"-----佢自己認為!
最最最攪笑的是, 佢好鐘意人地回應佢, 最好句句同佢ARGUE, 就可以"state them out clearly one by one with justifistion if you can"-----實在唔明點解佢會咁得閒, 放咁多時間精神去同人嘈! 尤其是同佢完全無關的學校~ 咁鐘意發表偉論, 點解唔開個TOPIC比"德瑞DIE HARD FANS"討論呢?
唔只呢個TOPIC, 總之有佢出現的TOPIC都一定好似"潑婦罵街"一樣, 最有趣的係人地傾的話題其實與他何干? 連DGJS的interview topic都一派瘋言瘋語!
咁多bk家長都批評你, 你自己檢討一下啦!
作者: sabun 時間: 08-11-24 20:25
嘩!你簡直冇得頂,講仲哂我哋啲BK媽咪的心聲,老實說,話唔埋佢精神有問題,吓吓要啄住人,做佢個老公同仔女真喺惨!!!!佢仲開一個新話題話以後唔同啲stupid啲人講嘢,喺就好喇,走咗唔好返嚟,呢度唔啱佢呢啲咁鬼"smart"嘅人,拜拜!:;pppp: :;pppp: :;pppp:
作者: liyinfai 時間: 08-11-24 23:22
Although wisekid2007 is very crazy, I do find that reading her/his post is quite funny.
Here is my suggestion:
1/ If you want find somebody to kill time, => wisekid2007 ha, he/she will type 1000 words for you, FREE OF CHARGE.
2/ If you feel unhappy to your daily life, read wisekid2007 post and you will find there is such a cheap cheap person with some personality defect in this world. Then you will find the god does not ill-treat you and you will become happier.
However, bear in mind that do not feel angry to wisekid2007 any rubbish idea which is similar to situation that you ARGUE WITH a psychiatric patient from castle peak hospital.
After typing all these comments, I find that this so-called wisekid2007 actually does provide some entertainment to us. Ha Ha..
Lastly, I would like to say: THANK YOU WISEKID2007. I LIKE YOU SO MUCH DON'T LEAVE ME. I NEED YOU TO PROVIDE ENTERTAINMENT TO ME EVERYDAY.I BECOME YOUR DIEHARD (you like this term, right) FANS.. HOORAY!
作者: IaMMoYY 時間: 08-11-25 01:41
Humm... Wisekid2007, I think it's constructive for a forum to have members like you who dare to voice different points views. However, calling other parents names and labels, such as "stupid" and "ignorant", does make you look wrong. Hope you will come back when you calm down.
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作者: IaMMoYY 時間: 08-11-25 02:01
原帖由 almom 於 08-11-23 08:40 發表
I think I no longer want to take part in this thread. The topic or the subject of discussion has once again been twisted.
Hi Almom, I can understand your frustration. Thank you for your posts in this thread. Hope you'll come back, too.
作者: nintendo 時間: 08-11-25 11:26
學生始終要入大學，咁 ISF 學生將來憑 d 乜野去考大學？係唔係走回頭路考 HK A-LEVEL？定係考英國 A-LEVEL？或 IGCSE？你始終都要跟一套課程行，我知有 D DSS 好大膽，話自己設計一套適合香港學生的課程，結果係東抄抄西抄抄，學學國際學校，有抄抄 IB，每年的教學方向都改，一年鬆，下年谷，結果成為四不像。冇課程跟，問題最大係學生的出路，唔好講考大學，就算轉校，出國都有銜接問題。其實，出面現有的課程，邊個好 D 邊個冇咁好，個個唔同睇法，而且對 ISF 學生都已經係後話，最貼身的問題，係要解決學生學習的現實問題。係要 "轉" 就要快，時間一日一日的過，你學校管理層就人工袋袋平安，學生的時間就燒晒去。
搞 IB ACCREDITATION 搞咁耐，結果 IB 唔批；唔批就認衰囉，唔好浪費時間為自己解話，甚麼唔要廣東話，只要普通話。BULLSHIT ，你搞得學校，唔係 DAY ONE 就應該知 IB 要乜？你唔知，點解唔請 D 有經驗的人番黎做？全世界咁多 IB 學校，大把人有 SET UP IB 學校的經驗，一早知道原來 IB 要求唔係自己學校的理念，就一開始就唔好搞，選擇過另外一個課程囉。
要用 CIS 和 RC 同 ISF 比，唔係好公平，CIS 和 RC 都係英語主流，FIRST LANGUAGE 肯定係英語。要比，其實維記同 ISF 都係 TARGET 本地華人學生。咁我想問，點解維記做到，ISF 做唔到？
普遍話唔算 FIRST LANGUAGE，咁英文呢？你唔好話比我聽，你中英文都係得半桶水，唔達標做 FIRST LANGUAGE。如果係，就真係匪夷所思。歐洲閒閒地個個識三四種語言，又唔見人地有 FIRST LANGUAGE 唔知係乜的問題？
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 08-11-25 11:53
請問ISF有無話唔申請IBD呢！唔申請MYP，都可以申請IBD，係咪？
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作者: JojoB 時間: 08-11-25 12:03
原帖由 kyliema2006 於 08-11-25 11:53 發表
請問ISF有無話唔申請IBD呢！唔申請MYP，都可以申請IBD，係咪？
佢有IBD
係無MYP & PYP
作者: Saturn 時間: 08-11-25 12:57
After reading nintendo & almom's threads, I summed up that the schools which claim that they design their own curriculum but not getting authoriization from IB PYP or MYP would ease them from switching their curriculum more freely, ie. without having the restrictions from IBO and they can allow their students to opt for taking different public exams.
It would not be the case that schools which got PYP or MYP authorization can surely have marketing value for their schools even. Its only 50/50 as some parents may not pro the IB curriculum and students mainly aim at taking the IB exam. But at least for the IB schools, they claim clearly that they follow what IBO requires them to run the curriculum.
In the end, it's all up to consumer's decision.
These are my own view and understanding.
Saturn.
原帖由 nintendo 於 08-11-25 11:26 發表
學生始終要入大學，咁 ISF 學生將來憑 d 乜野去考大學？係唔係走回頭路考 HK A-LEVEL？定係考英國 A-LEVEL？或 IGCSE？你始終都要跟一套課程行，我知有 D DSS 好大膽，話自己設計一套適合香港學生的課程，結果係東抄抄西抄抄，學學國際 ...
作者: mattsmum 時間: 08-11-25 13:51 標題: 回覆 # 的文章
"學生始終要入大學，定係考英國 A-LEVEL？或 IGCSE？你始終都要跟一套課程行，...問題最大係學生的出路，唔好講考大學，就算轉校，出國都有銜接問題。其實，出面現有的課程，..."
no more hk A level or hk O'level in years to come because of 3-3-4.
even the current 3-3-4 is not yet recognized by other countries yet.
so school has to think about it anyway if they don't follow the local curriculum.
作者: sabun 時間: 08-11-25 14:15
Yes,Isf still have IBD.Anyway the daughter of my
friend still happy and her putonhua and english were
really good in ISF.
作者: cherubic 時間: 08-11-25 14:38
I am a bit confused. Under IB curriculum, there are 3 programmes, viz, PYP, MYP and DP. A school may apply for authorization under any of them. Upon successful application, the school can claim itself to be an IB school running PYP or MYP or DP.
Do you mean ISF still follows the IB programme but not applying for authorization? What a shame if it is the case. I think one of the reasons for its high school fee is to support the IB programme, and the IB programme may be an important factor why some parents send their kids to this school.
原帖由 sabun 於 08-11-25 14:15 發表
Yes,Isf still have IBD.Anyway the daughter of my
friend still happy and her putonhua and english were
really good in ISF.
作者: JojoB 時間: 08-11-25 16:00
原帖由 cherubic 於 08-11-25 14:38 發表
I am a bit confused. Under IB curriculum, there are 3 programmes, viz, PYP, MYP and DP. A school may apply for authorization under any of them. Upon successful application, the school can claim its ...
ISF 係有IBD... 即係2年既文憑課程
但佢就無俾批核到有 PYP & MYP (小學和初中課程)
依個情況 有D似 DBS 咁 將F. 6 & 7 轉讀 IBD咁樣
作者: papa_pop 時間: 08-11-25 16:52 標題: Can IBDP survive without MYP and PYP?
I'm not taking side for or against ISF's decision, but simply giving some background info to those who have a slight interest in IB.
There aren't many schools around the world that adopt all 3 programmes, namely, IBDP, MYP and PYP, offered by IBO. In fact, it's the IBDP that has drawn much of the attention, esp among those with an 'international' mindset (good guess - IBO was founded in Geneva!). While we all live in a so-called globalised village, it's no wonder there are an increasing number of parents who are paving for their kids for a more flexible option in planning for their university admission.
The issue at stake is not whether IB is good or not, suitable for their kids or not; but about the 'necessity' in adopting all 3 programmes.
IBDP was introduced 40 years ago, while MYP and PYP are both just a little more than 10 years old. In fact, not many IB schools have equal regard to the other two programmes as their 'senior'.
Putting it in perspective: in the UK, some of the top-tier schools including Sevenoaks, North London Collegiate School and Cheltenham Ladies' College, only offer IBDP.
As some of you may know, Sevenoaks, one of the creme de la creme, is among the very firsts to join as an IB school - back in 1978. It ranked 1st among A-level and IB schools by the Times in 2007.
In fact, it was the first major UK school switching to IB in 1999, with A-levels being phased out altogether from 2006. Mind you that their students' performance in A-levels has been equally impressive. Nonetheless, they still - as of today - do not offer MYP.
Some of the more established international schools in HK also go for IBDP only. I'm sure they have good reasons too.
By the way, none of the students at Li Po Chun, for now, have had a chance to benefit from MYP, not to mention PYP, in their early education. But I guess no one will doubt their performance in IBDP.
I can't tell the trends or future development of the IB programmes. But for now, all the above are tell-tales signs of the necessity of including MYP and PYP in a school curriculum.
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 08-11-25 17:19
謝謝你的分析及資料，very informative.
原帖由 papa_pop 於 08-11-25 16:52 發表
I'm not taking side for or against ISF's decision, but simply giving some background info to those who have a slight interest in IB.
There aren't many schools around the world that adopt all 3 progra ...
作者: tingtingting 時間: 08-11-25 17:42
Intriguing is it that those PYP+MYP+DP schools in Hong Kong are, in Wisekid's dictionary, no good (or not good enough to get into his list of so called "elite" schools). Ironically, GSIS also seems to have planned to adopt DP only.
作者: Saturn 時間: 08-11-25 17:52
Would ISF still not be authorized for IBD yet? Its school name is not listed under the IB world school in Hong Kong in the IBO's website.
I assume schools only apply to become an IBD candidate school when their students are about to reach the upper secondary level.
原帖由 JojoB 於 08-11-25 16:00 發表
ISF 係有IBD... 即係2年既文憑課程
但佢就無俾批核到有 PYP & MYP (小學和初中課程)
依個情況 有D似 DBS 咁 將F. 6 & 7 轉讀 IBD咁樣
作者: nintendo 時間: 08-11-25 17:59
IBO 個網唔見 ISF 個校名，
咁即係 IBD 未批，
會唔會到時又話唔得，同 MYP 一樣 "臨尾香"？
冇 MYP，冇 PYP 唔緊要，
如果連 IBD 都冇，學生手上有乜野考大學 ？
PS 多謝網友告知 HK A LEVEL 等的未來動向。
作者: nintendo 時間: 08-11-25 18:04
原帖由 papa_pop 於 08-11-25 16:52 發表
I'm not taking side for or against ISF's decision, but simply giving some background info to those who have a slight interest in IB.
There aren't many schools around the world that adopt all 3 progra ...
其實，要入大學，根本唔一定要讀 IBD ，
何況 PYP 同 MYP，這點我估冇人會否定。
作者: mattsmum 時間: 08-11-25 18:21 標題: 回覆 # 的文章
in VSA 's briefing, they did say that IBDP is very important, while they have MYP and PYP, they said " our curricurim in maths also refers to local school's " or " our students also takes NSW exam" etc. so that there is a bench mark established.
I guess it does not matter if there is no MYP or PYP, it is just that student's training has to be geared towards the IB way.
作者: nintendo 時間: 08-11-25 18:45
好奇問下，維多利亞選了中文定英文做第一語言？
如果維多利亞都做到，中文或英文可以有第一語言的水平，點解 isf 做唔到？
唔好忘記，維多利亞都收本地學生為主，佢地都係講廣東話的多。
作者: nintendo 時間: 08-11-25 18:48
原帖由 mattsmum 於 08-11-25 18:21 發表
" our students also takes NSW exam" et ...
nsw exam 只係一個 assessment ，香港好多 IS 甚至本地學校都有去考。我覺得作用唔大。
作者: tingtingting 時間: 08-11-25 21:09
原帖由 nintendo 於 08-11-25 18:45 發表
好奇問下，維多利亞選了中文定英文做第一語言？
如果維多利亞都做到，中文或英文可以有第一語言的水平，點解 isf 做唔到？
唔好忘記，維多利亞都收本地學生為主，佢地都係講廣東話的多。 ...
I may well be wrong but heard that VSA will do A1 Chinese and A2 English. Can any VAS parents clarify?
As a soon to be ISF parent I am not concerned about MYP at all. Chance is that my son will not complete high school in Hong Kong. Of the few ISF parents I know (I'm closer to the expat parents), nobody really cares about MYP. As long as the school is doing fine at the moment, it is good enough for us.
I have searched high and low for a bilingual programme in HK. ISF appears to be the only option (in my case at least). I must stress that I am not saying VSA is no good. Just that it does not appeal to me. I follow my gut feeling and choose ISF.
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-11-25 23:03
很同意你的說法.
請問你兒子申請入讀小一嗎?
原帖由 tingtingting 於 08-11-25 21:09 發表
I may well be wrong but heard that VSA will do A1 Chinese and A2 English. Can any VAS parents clarify?
As a soon to be ISF parent I am not concerned about MYP at all. Chance is that my son will ...
作者: Grapes 時間: 08-11-25 23:42
Fully agreed. What if ISF cannot get authorization to run IBO DP at the end? The victims are their students!
I don't want my child to be a guinea pig and that's why I have arranged my child to transfer to another school.
原帖由 nintendo 於 08-11-25 17:59 發表
IBO 個網唔見 ISF 個校名，
咁即係 IBD 未批，
會唔會到時又話唔得，同 MYP 一樣 "臨尾香"？
冇 MYP，冇 PYP 唔緊要，
如果連 IBD 都冇，學生手上有乜野考大學 ？
PS 多謝網友告知 HK A LEVEL 等的未來動向。 ...
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-11-26 09:08
照大家所說, 都是談論"WHAT IF"嗎?
好奇一問, 你的小朋友會轉去那間學校呢?
我不知道你們說的資料/流言何處來....
對我來說, 我和tingtingting以及我所認識的家長一樣, 跟本沒有介意有否MYP...
我覺得家長為孩子揀選學校, 一是學校的課程/教學理念與自己期望配合與否. 二是孩子的性格, 學習能力, 甚至將來發展的需要等等.
參觀過2次OPEN DAY和入學簡介, 以及和認識的家長討論過, ISF一直是我們的1st choice. 因為女兒可能只在香港唸小學, 所以我們希望她有十分良好的中文基礎, 對中國傳統文化有較多認識. 同時, 英文亦要很好.
1) 普通話 + 英語, 是NATIVE一樣的流利程度.
這點, VSA一定比不上, 因為絕大部份是LOCAL學生, 課餘溝通都用廣東話. ISF的學生, 以我所觀察, 課餘都說著流利的普通話或英語.
2) ISF以中國文化傳統為為基礎, 特別重視中文及相關的例如歷史, 武術, 藝術等方面的教育. 我看過學生的課本和習作, 中文程度比我想像中更高. 在上武術課的時候同時唸詩詞 etc. 這方面比CIS優勝.
3) 小班教學. 平均10多位學生一班. (少於15人). 課程多樣化, 給孩子多方面發展.
單是第(1) & (2)項, 已經是香港學校中最中最配合我們期望的學校.
我覺得自己不是什麼ISF "DIE HARD FANS", 因為ISF仍未sent出入學通知, 未知取錄與否. 只是覺得這所學校很適合自己的女兒, 又配合我們的期望.
原帖由 Grapes 於 08-11-25 23:42 發表
Fully agreed. What if ISF cannot get authorization to run IBO DP at the end? The victims are their students!
I don't want my child to be a guinea pig and that's why I have arranged my child to transf ...
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-11-26 10:25
剛收到通知, ISF收了我的女兒!~ 
作者: cecilau 時間: 08-11-26 10:30
恭喜你. 你女女報grade 1 or foundation year?
我仔仔現讀FY, 讀ISF 之前係一間全廣東話幼稚園, 返學差不多3個月, 他的普通話和英文進步很大, 課堂上用普通話和英文, 同學仔傾計多數用英文. 我相信ISF 可以令我仔仔有流利的英文和普通話.
原帖由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-11-26 10:25 發表
剛收到通知, ISF收了我的女兒!~
[ 本帖最後由 cecilau 於 08-11-26 10:33 編輯 ]
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-11-26 10:41
我囡囡報讀Grade1.
她讀維多利亞幼稚園, 英文ok, 普通話還可以. Daddy和她說英文的, 課餘有上堂學phonic & writing. 普通話不是母語, 所以有參加一星期2次的普通話班, 亦有請人私人教普通話.
她是10月出生的. 所以曾經有想過若考不到Grade 1, 就替她申請foundation. 不過最終都無, 因為始終不想她repeat一年.
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-11-26 10:45
噢，我囡囡和你囝囝可能會是同學呢! 
入讀ISF, 至少我可以肯定, 囡囡的英文和普通話一定會十分好! :)
原帖由 cecilau 於 08-11-26 10:30 發表
恭喜你. 你女女報grade 1 or foundation year?
我仔仔現讀FY, 讀ISF 之前係一間全廣東話幼稚園, 返學差不多3個月, 他的普通話和英文進步很大, 課堂上用普通話和英文, 同學仔傾計多數用英文. 我相信ISF 可以令我仔仔 ...
作者: cecilau 時間: 08-11-26 10:48
咁出年有機會做同學仔啦. 咁你今年好好同你女女補下拼音啦. 因為今年佢地都學緊啦. 同埋maths, 因為現在學緊個位的加減了. 中文寫字就不多. 英文都不算深.
今年我仔個班都有幾個係維多利亞入的.
原帖由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-11-26 10:41 發表
我囡囡報讀Grade1.
她讀維多利亞幼稚園, 英文ok, 普通話還可以. Daddy和她說英文的, 課餘有上堂學phonic & writing. 普通話不是母語, 所以有參加一星期2次的普通話班, 亦有請人私人教普通話.
她是10月出生 ...
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-11-26 10:53
數學和英文都有參加KUMON.
12月開始會上KUMON中文.
私人的普通話老師都有教她聲母韻母, 我會督促一下她的拼音, 總之入讀小一前會好好地打好基礎.
謝謝你的回應. :)
原帖由 cecilau 於 08-11-26 10:48 發表
咁出年有機會做同學仔啦. 咁你今年好好同你女女補下拼音啦. 因為今年佢地都學緊啦. 同埋maths, 因為現在學緊個位的加減了. 中文寫字就不多. 英文都不算深.
今年我仔個班都有幾個係維多利亞入的.
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作者: JojoB 時間: 08-11-26 15:51
原帖由 Saturn 於 08-11-25 17:52 發表
Would ISF still not be authorized for IBD yet? Its school name is not listed under the IB world school in Hong Kong in the IBO's website.
I assume schools only apply to become an IBD candidate sch ...
吓..向school visit佢淨係講話 PYP & MYP申請緊
無講IBD喎....
唔係呱....
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