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作者: tpoon 時間: 08-10-29 17:18 標題: 關於ESF小一interview, 可否比d意見

囡囡年尾考ESF Primary one, 現讀ESF K2, 小朋友之間全英語交談冇問題, 但非常怕羞, 有老師在場就很小出聲, 在同一kindergarten已讀左甘耐, 沒有理由同老師不熟絡. 請問有沒有媽媽之前有此經驗? 我可做什麼幫囡囡呢? 有什麼方法可令她大胆些呢? 我已經安排了很多Play date比佢同同班同學玩, 佢玩得好好, 但一有大人在場時, 即刻唔出聲, 點算? 仲有2個月便Interview了, 到時有老師在場, 我相信佢都係會唔出聲自己玩, 點算呀?

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 08-10-31 17:21

You should apply other international schools as "back-up".

原帖由 tpoon 於 08-10-29 17:18 發表
囡囡年尾考ESF Primary one, 現讀ESF K2, 小朋友之間全英語交談冇問題, 但非常怕羞, 有老師在場就很小出聲, 在同一kindergarten已讀左甘耐, 沒有理由同老師不熟絡. 請問有沒有媽媽之前有此經驗? 我可做什麼幫囡囡呢? ...

作者: Mighty 時間: 08-10-31 20:48

hi tpoon, 我的女児也一様、有大人的時候就不喜歓説話、需要非常多時間適応有STRANGERS的地方。　　今年４月INTERVIEW的時候、老師通知各学生入房INTERVIEW、女児便緊張得哭起来。　幸好老師非常CONSIDERATE、説這是普偏現象、容許我同她一斉去到CLASSROOM,去到CLASSROOM之後、只有幾個小朋友及一個老師、她便「冷静」下来、順利過関。　我覚得不一定要sociable才可的、学校一定知道EVERYONE IS UNIQUE. Are all the teachers in the ESF Kindi westerners? If she is used to them, then I am sure she wl be ok. Just remember not to make a big fuss on that morning, then I am sure she will be OK. Good luck.

作者: tpoon 時間: 08-11-1 18:57

Today, I try a new drama class for her, as usual, the teacher say she is willing to partipate in the games but not willing to talk.

Mighty, thank you for your encouragement. I know I couldn't worry so much but I just can't help stop thinking......

原帖由 Mighty 於 08-10-31 20:48 發表
hi tpoon, 我的女児也一様、有大人的時候就不喜歓説話、需要非常多時間適応有STRANGERS的地方。　　今年４月INTERVIEW的時候、老師通知各学生入房INTERVIEW、女児便緊張得哭起来。　幸好老師非常CONSIDERATE、説這是普 ...

作者: YLau 時間: 08-11-6 16:32

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作者: bbtung 時間: 08-11-6 16:39

Dear tpoon,

Don't be too worry.

I understand that the ESF teacher will specially ask questions to those kids who have not spoke any words to test their English level.

bbtung

作者: tpoon 時間: 08-11-7 12:00

Yesterday I went to the Year One seminar of Clearwater
Bay
School.
The Principal said the school has 120 places for Year One, however, they had received 131 applications from the category 1 children.
Base on the information given, I think there is hopeless for the Category 2 child, like my girl which English is not our first language, although the Principal said chance is still there for Category 2 children.
I don’t know how the information given by the Principal can reflect the true and I don’t understand why last year almost all the kids from Abacus were accepted by Clearway
Bay
School.
Is that means a lot of Category 1 Child just submits the application and reject the offer finally?

作者: cocobean225 時間: 08-11-7 13:44

tpoon,

if there are 131 applicants for 120 Y1 places at CWBS, I think the chances are quite high already. My son is now in K1 and CWBS is also my 1st choice.

原帖由 tpoon 於 08-11-7 12:00 發表
Yesterday I went to the Year One seminar of Clearwater
Bay
School.
The Principal said the school has 120 places for Year One, however, they had received 131 applications from the category 1 children.
...

作者: 502 時間: 08-11-7 15:37

Don't worry!

Some of the Cat 1 applicants might end up not choosing ESF for various reason (e.g. re-location of parents and financial reasons, etc). So you still have chance.

原帖由 tpoon 於 08-11-7 12:00 發表
Yesterday I went to the Year One seminar of Clearwater
Bay
School.
The Principal said the school has 120 places for Year One, however, they had received 131 applications from the category 1 children.
...

作者: tpoon 時間: 08-11-8 09:33

HI, cocobean,

131 applicants are all catergory 1 children. We are Chinese, we belong to category 2. The principal said there are about 150 category 2 applicants. Most of the people tell me Abacus children will most likely all accepted by Clearwaterbay school from the past experience. I really don't know how this system works. From the data given by the principal, at least half of the category 1 applicants either cannot meet the entrance requirement or reject the offer, otherwise, it will be hopeless for catergory 2 kids. However, it is almost impossible that the catergory 1 children will not meet the entrance requirement.

原帖由 cocobean225 於 08-11-7 13:44 發表
tpoon,

if there are 131 applicants for 120 Y1 places at CWBS, I think the chances are quite high already. My son is now in K1 and CWBS is also my 1st choice.

作者: chuchuma 時間: 08-11-8 10:14 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

Hi tpoon,

My son is studying in SJS Yi and he studied in ESF Tsing Yi Kindergarten before joining the SJS.

My son has the same behaviour as your girl, he has no problem to deal with the kids but reluctant to approach or talk to the adult especially in the strange environment and take a long time to warm up.

Since SJS was my 1st choice, therefore, in order to let my son familar with the school and environment, I started to enrol my son to the ESF weekend English Program which was conducted in SJS one year prior to the interview so as to enable my son to familar with the classroom and the school. I think this way may help a little bit.

However, for your case, I think you started to bring her to the school and wondering around for a while which I think may help a bit.

[ 本帖最後由 chuchuma 於 08-11-8 10:15 編輯 ]

作者: mariobie 時間: 08-11-13 00:00

my son is now K2, can I apply ESF Y1 now???
thx

作者: YLau 時間: 08-11-13 17:10

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作者: cocobean225 時間: 08-11-14 11:45

tpoon,

I wonder where the 131 applicants from category 1 come from. How many kids in total are there from Abacus? I think not all kids from Abacus would apply to CWBS, some of them will apply to RC.
If your daughter is in Abacus, chance is already higher. My son is not in Abacus, but for the past years all the graduates from his kindy can either go to CWBS and RC.

原帖由 tpoon 於 08-11-7 12:00 發表
Yesterday I went to the Year One seminar of Clearwater
Bay
School.
The Principal said the school has 120 places for Year One, however, they had received 131 applications from the category 1 children.
...

作者: tpoon 時間: 08-11-14 11:59

Hi, Cocobean225,

I thought those 131 category 1 applicants are either from Abacus or outsiders.

作者: kohuei 時間: 08-11-14 22:32

My understanding is that we will see lots of expatriate families leaving HK in the following months to come due to the current economic downturn. I am guessing that kids who are from local families and are being placed on the waiting list will probably have a better chance for next year's Y1 now.

My guess anyway.

作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-21 22:34

So anyone here receive interview letter from CWBS so far? I have letter from RC already but not CWBS. My daughter studies in Abacus too, just don't know if we are Cat 1 or Cat 2....

作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-24 11:06

CWBS said that they will send out interview letter today, so watch out your mailbox these 2 days la.

作者: YLau 時間: 08-11-26 15:47

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作者: piggyloo 時間: 08-11-26 16:49

my daughter also got an interview on jan....is that mean its almost can enter P1? how's the chance?

作者: piggyloo 時間: 08-11-26 16:55

btw....she's at hk side and have interview for quarry bay school

作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-26 21:05

looks like Quarry Bay Shcool has a higher chance for local students...... CWBS is more tough as it is smaller..... and more foreigners are living in Sai Kung & Clearwater Bay.....

作者: AL_mom 時間: 08-11-26 21:18

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作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-26 21:25

原帖由 AL_mom 於 08-11-26 21:18 發表
My son is in Abacus but has got only waiting list to CWBS intervidew. Does anyone know what will happen next? Will there still be a big chance to interview? or we better start to look for other schoo ...

My daughter too, look like our kids are classmate, but same situation..... have you applied RC? For CWBS, I guess we can only put them in waiting list, and bless.....

作者: emmamay 時間: 08-11-27 16:52

原帖由 YLau 於 08-11-26 15:47 發表
Hi all,

I received the interview letter and ESF request me to bring the parents' passport, why?

Besides, they suggest both parents should attend the interview, anyone know what parents should do in ...

I also received the letter from Kennedy School, but it only required to bring along my daughter's passport.

作者: YLau 時間: 08-11-28 10:28

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作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-28 10:54

原帖由 YLau 於 08-11-28 10:28 發表

Hi emmamay,

How about in your application form, did u selected Parmenant ID in parents' column?

We selected Parmenant ID in the column and may be that why ESF request our passport.

Because of the overwhelming demand, I guess ESF is checking even the nationality of the parents & kids very strict so this is why they ask you to bring the passport......

作者: 502 時間: 08-11-28 11:05

Per my understanding, the nationality really does not matter a lot. ESF does know there are quite a number of local Chinese holding foreign passports.

Once you are offered an interview, the chance is quite high provided that your child's English is fluent.

原帖由 popolung 於 08-11-28 10:54 發表

Because of the overwhelming demand, I guess ESF is checking even the nationality of the parents & kids very strict so this is why they ask you to bring the passport......

作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-28 13:12

原帖由 502 於 08-11-28 11:05 發表
Per my understanding, the nationality really does not matter a lot. ESF does know there are quite a number of local Chinese holding foreign passports.

Once you are offered an interview, the chance i ...

I understand this too, but looks like this year is a bit difference, otherwise they won't ask parents to bring passport (to prove your nationality?) to me this is a bit odd...

作者: VVMUM 時間: 08-11-28 15:52

Hi AL-Mon, Popolung,

I am surprised to learn from both of you that your kids are put on waiting list for CWBS, because I thought for all kids studing in ESF Kindergartens the interview to ESF schools are guaranteed. Have you asked the teacher or the principle in Abacus?

原帖由 popolung 於 08-11-26 21:25 發表

My daughter too, look like our kids are classmate, but same situation..... have you applied RC? For CWBS, I guess we can only put them in waiting list, and bless.....

作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-28 22:05

原帖由 VVMUM 於 08-11-28 15:52 發表
Hi AL-Mon, Popolung,

I am surprised to learn from both of you that your kids are put on waiting list for CWBS, because I thought for all kids studing in ESF Kindergartens the interview to ESF schools ...

already, and I think they carry out the selection of Cat 1 / Cat 2 strictly so why our kids are on waiting list...... as now ESF move to centralize allocation so it is diff from old days......

作者: AL_mom 時間: 08-11-28 23:02

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作者: popolung 時間: 08-11-29 03:36

原帖由 AL_mom 於 08-11-28 23:02 發表
popolung, did you apply for other schools? I've started to search for other schools. Seems many kids can't get an interview this year. but I don't undertand why there's such a big difference between ...

I have applied RC too and have intreview.... just I think is too far away from TKO to Ma On Shan for a kid only 4-5 years old la.... will take almost 3 hours only on the bus daily..... now so worry.....

also I want to apply other IS too... which one you are looking at now? But sound like many other IS will take kids from kinder only after 5 years old... or K3?

[ 本帖最後由 popolung 於 08-11-29 03:39 編輯 ]

作者: emmamay 時間: 08-11-29 12:04

原帖由 YLau 於 08-11-28 10:28 發表

Hi emmamay,

How about in your application form, did u selected Parmenant ID in parents' column?

We selected Parmenant ID in the column and may be that why ESF request our passport.

I was not sure whether I selected the permenant ID or not.

Because my husband's British passport was issued in England, it might be adifferent from those who was issued in Hong Kong due to 1997 return.

And from the passport number, you can tell the difference between them.

Anyway, I really don't know whether a foreign passport holder will have priority or not.

I just remember that few years ago when I applied the ESF school for my elder son from overseas, the staff said those British passports holders would jump over the local queue. At that time, this issue was not written in the admission requirement too.

I am not sure will they classify the Hong Kong 97 British passport and the England one.

作者: SFmom 時間: 08-11-29 12:46

emmamay,

I'd sent you a reply but wasn't sure whether you've received it. Sorry if you didn't...I can't read much chinese and might have press the wrong button from guessing. Let me know.

作者: emmamay 時間: 08-11-29 16:58

原帖由 SFmom 於 08-11-29 12:46 發表
emmamay,

I'd sent you a reply but wasn't sure whether you've received it. Sorry if you didn't...I can't read much chinese and might have press the wrong button from guessing. Let me know.

SF mom,
I do not get anything yet, pls send me again.

作者: birdbird 時間: 08-11-30 09:49

原帖由 emmamay 於 08-11-29 12:04 發表

I just remember that few years ago when I applied the ESF school for my elder son from overseas,

It is a big difference between an OVERSEAS application and a local application even though the children concerned are chinese in both cases.

For Chinese children born in Hong Kong but having a foreign passport, it dosen't make great difference from those with just a hksar passport. The former can still go to local kindergartens (i.e. the local system). They are treated as Cat 2 applicants. If these Cat 2 applicants study in ESF kindergartens, they are in a higher priority then those in other international kindergartens. Those from international kindergartens have bigger chances to get an interview than ones from local kindergartens. That probably explains why St. Catherine's students cannot get interview offers from KJS while some students from Anfield or KBCK can still get the offer.

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-1 11:58

原帖由 birdbird 於 08-11-30 09:49 發表

It is a big difference between an OVERSEAS application and a local application even though the children concerned are chinese in both cases.

For Chinese children born in Hong Kong but having a fore ...

I have checked more other cases and looks like this year if you are Chinese Families, even if you are studing in ESF kinder, you may not even have a chance to get the letter for just sit on waiting list, so overwhelming?

作者: almom 時間: 08-12-1 13:12

I suggest that we tackle this issue from a more objective point of view.
As far as I know, ESF does have certain "arrangements" to entertain those coming to Hong Kong from overseas first. I am not sure whether it is a written policy (it probably is) but it still can be told by "observations".
I do believe that a foreign passport, particularly those recently coming to Hong Kong, whether you are ethnic Chinese, can make a difference. Do not forget that ESF was setup to provide education for expat children. The fact that local Hong Kongers were able to get places back then (particularly during the few years after the handover) was that there were extra places even after most expat kids filled them. Otherwise, I do think that expats or non-local Chinese would (and should) have priorty over local Chinese with SAR passport. Do not forget that local Chinese kids do and should have other choices, even if they claim to be English speaking, because these kids can more easily "survive" in a local Cantonese speaking school than expat kids or non-local kids.
Make sense?
Looks like competition at ESF is very keen now and yes, if there are others that really need a a place in an English speaking school more than you do, then you are in a bad position.
Take the wise man's advice: Do not put all eggs in one basket.

PS. Do not try to project what happened last year or the year before to your own case. The situation every year is different. Back then during the few years right after the handover, there have been cases where children got admission even if they could hardly speak much English. My friend's child's classmate was one of those kids. However, obviously, ESF are very selective now, that this would no longer happen.

[ 本帖最後由 almom 於 08-12-1 13:30 編輯 ]

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-1 17:55

I am summarizing cases this year now so hope it is a bit useful info for other, and keep telling us what happen here.

Anyway, it is what it is now, so good luck to all who want to put their kids into ESF, including me......

作者: BBIX 時間: 08-12-1 23:14

may i know what about my son is holding french pspt, my husband is french and me, fm hk, so my son should belong to Cat 1, or cat 2? thks

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-2 00:24

Cat 1 is Children who speak English as a first or alternative language but do not speak Cantonese and/or read and write Chinese characters.

So I guess your case may be Cat 2.... but hard to say. So did you received letter for interview now? You should call ESF Center to find out.

作者: BBIX 時間: 08-12-2 09:32

I hvn't applied yet, he is now 3.5 y.o. But I write his 1st lang. is eng, and can't speak chinese, so he still belongs to cat 2? thks

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-2 10:26

原帖由 BBIX 於 08-12-2 09:32 發表
I hvn't applied yet, he is now 3.5 y.o. But I write his 1st lang. is eng, and can't speak chinese, so he still belongs to cat 2? thks

Then he will be Cat 1.... if that is the real case!

作者: BBIX 時間: 08-12-2 10:51

hee..e.e actually, he has speech delay, but eng is still stronger than chinese, and french. so I don't consider he can speak chinese and french.

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-2 11:08

原帖由 BBIX 於 08-12-2 10:51 發表
hee..e.e actually, he has speech delay, but eng is still stronger than chinese, and french. so I don't consider he can speak chinese and french.

Keep talking to him in complete English, and only watch English media (TV, DVD) if possible, that will help!

作者: VVMUM 時間: 08-12-2 16:27

Hi Popolung,

I am really sorry and surprised to know the bad situation this year, seems it is indeed some kids are on waiting list in Abucas.

Can any other parents in other ESF Kinders like Tsing Yi encounter the same situation??? Pls share with us.

Thanks.

原帖由 popolung 於 08-12-1 11:58 發表

I have checked more other cases and looks like this year if you are Chinese Families, even if you are studing in ESF kinder, you may not even have a chance to get the letter for just sit on waiting ...

作者: cocobean225 時間: 08-12-2 17:22

Dear Abacus parents,

I have discussed this issue with the school administrator of my son's school. She admitted that it's getting harder and harder for category 2 students to even get the interview chance at CWBS based on last year's info. You know when we fill out the application, we have to declare whether CWBS or RC is our first choice, since category 2 students may not even get interview chance at CWBS and just being put on waiting list, do you think it's a "wiser" idea to select RC as first choice at least RC seems to offer interview chances to all "Chinese"?

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-2 17:30

原帖由 cocobean225 於 08-12-2 17:22 發表
Dear Abacus parents,

I have discussed this issue with the school administrator of my son's school. She admitted that it's getting harder and harder for category 2 students to even get the interview c ...

I think RC is separated as it is a PIS. At least that's what the ESF claimed that the application form is separated, and they want to know if you have applied RC only for statistic purposes.....

But now my kid has interview in RC, but for CWBS only on waiting list. So somehow someone told me , that the conspiracy theory is that if you have applied for RC, and even you have chosed CWBS as 1st priority, they will still send your kids to RC as to fill-up space there, no matter where you lived, and sounds like this is my case now, even the school keep saying it is not the case.........

and I also know one Chinese family in ESF kinder that has not applied for RC, then has chances for interview in CWBS.... sounds not fair wor.....

[ 本帖最後由 popolung 於 08-12-2 17:32 編輯 ]

作者: BBIX 時間: 08-12-2 21:49

may i know that chinese family in ESF kinder they just only applied CWBS, but not RC? thks

作者: AL_mom 時間: 08-12-2 22:17

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作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-2 22:20

原帖由 AL_mom 於 08-12-2 22:17 發表
Hi BBIX, going to RC means 3 hours commute for a small kid. I really don't want to do it to my son. My situation is the same as popolung, waiting list for CWBS, but RC offered interview. To be hones ...

I agreed, I don't want that 3 hours travel neither for my daughter. May be we should give some pressure to the Abacus.....

作者: BBIX 時間: 08-12-2 23:20

Hi, ALmom, actually, Abacus offered a seat for my son, but I didn't accept it, since their school fee is not CHEAP, and they offered him afternoon class. If RC accept my son, I will send him to school everyday, but I hvn't made up my mind yet, I did like CWBS, but I prefer small class that CWBS doesn't hv. I really hv no idea. and again, my son has speech delay, so... the chance for us get into CWBS or RC even lower than all of you ..... poor us!

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-2 23:26

原帖由 AL_mom 於 08-12-2 22:17 發表
Hi Popolung,
Is the Chinese family you mentioned that did not apply RC and got CWBS interview a real local family? or returning from overseas? do they speak Cantonese? If they are local family, the ...

And yes, that is a real local chinese family. The only different is the elder brother is studying in CWBS already, but still that is only CAT 2 with same priority like your kid is studying in ESF Kinder. I guess another issue is, may be they filled-in the form said that the kid can only speak English...... but of course I know the kid can speak good Cantonese too.......

Well I just don't want to lie even just filling-in the application form, also if you can't control your kid not to speak Cantonese during the interview (but how can you control a 4 years old kid?).... and if they found out that you claim your kid is Cat 1 but somehow they can speak Cantonese, then your kid may be fouled.... so I don't want to take that risk neither....

作者: birdbird 時間: 08-12-4 07:54

原帖由 popolung 於 08-12-2 23:26 發表

And yes, that is a real local chinese family. The only different is the elder brother is studying in CWBS already, but still that is only CAT 2 with same priority like your kid is studying in ESF Ki ...

That counts the difference!
That kid has a sibling in CWBS. The kid is at a higher priority than other ESF kinder chinese students who have no connections with ESF (ie. siblings, parents working in ESF) in applying for CWBS!

[ 本帖最後由 birdbird 於 08-12-4 07:55 編輯 ]

作者: birdbird 時間: 08-12-4 08:08

原帖由 popolung 於 08-12-2 23:26 發表
Well I just don't want to lie even just filling-in the application form, also if you can't control your kid not to speak Cantonese during the interview

You're right.
Never try to fool ESF that a local chinese kid doesn't know any cantonese at all while the parents were raised up and are working in Hong Kong! Any educator will think that it is impossible and a bit nonsense if the parents really shut the kid away from their mother-tongue language.
The child's cantonese can be at the developmental stage or not fluent, but should not be '0' level. In other words, it's not wise to leave the relevant columns in the application form blank.

We'll never know if the child will be tested for their Cantonese during the interview. The interviewer will know whether the parents have lied in the application form or not.

[ 本帖最後由 birdbird 於 08-12-4 08:10 編輯 ]

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-4 10:25

原帖由 birdbird 於 08-12-4 08:08 發表

You're right.
Never try to fool ESF that a local chinese kid doesn't know any cantonese at all while the parents were raised up and are working in Hong Kong! Any educator will think that it is impo ...

I totally agreed, and I have heard case that the interviewers are trying to test the kids' Cantonese capability, althought a lot of people still telling me that I shouldn't fill-in any Cantonese / Chinese in the form.....

作者: 502 時間: 08-12-4 10:48

1) Priority for sibling is higher than those from ESF kinder.  That's why many moms will put the younger kids in other kinders once their elder ones have already entered into the ESF system.

2) ESF guys are quite smart to spot the real Cat 1.  So the form-filling / passport issues are not important.

3) Catchment zone is very important in applying ESF, especially for the non-sibling applicants.  Per my understanding, the applicaiton to the HK Island side is not a real headache becasue of the seats available.

原帖由 popolung 於 08-12-4 10:25 發表

I totally agreed, and I have heard case that the interviewers are trying to test the kids' Cantonese capability, althought a lot of people still telling me that I shouldn't fill-in any Cantonese / C ...

作者: popolung 時間: 08-12-9 11:06

Anyone who are in the waiting list for ESF K1 now get interview in Jan / Feb? Pls update here!!

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