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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-5 18:38 標題: Searching the Best School in the World Donated to thankful

Dear Thinking, Working & Planning Hard for your Children's Future Parents

In search for the Best School in the world, my wife and I have been living in more than 10 Cities in 4 Countries/Territories.

Like many of you, we started the search even before our first child was born.

The could be Endless search started almost 11 years ago.

Before sharing with you lot about our Experiences/Observations, we are hoping some of you may share with us,

"What is your Definition of the Best School?"

Cheers
Fate
Together We Build a Safer, Happier, Cleaner & More Caring Community

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作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-5 19:31

我就覚得講得有点誇張、就算有一間認為是全世界最好的学校、小朋友也未必入到、如何処理？　　如果這学校是在外国的、父母是否放棄一切譲児女去読？　　有点本末到置。　　這就是可能今日大部分小朋友被竉壊的原因。　　

作者: Mum99 時間: 08-7-6 13:16

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作者: xenonlit 時間: 08-7-6 13:36

One's food may be others' poison. So there is no best school in the world for all of us.

作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-6 14:23

QUOTE Common sense would have told us, what Fate's "in the world" merely implying "in the area he's living at the time." UNQUOTE
如果FATE的意思真的只是 in the area he is living at the time就不応用 in the World 去形容了。　　我個人就覚得有点誇張、也可能是英文程度不同所致。　　形容自己的児女用「You're the best child in the world」的意思就完全不同了、因他們是無可取替的。　　学校就当然是可「取替」的。　　我倒賛成xenonlit的説法、有見地、我欣賞。

作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-6 18:20

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-6 19:27 標題: Be Honest. Be Humble. Be Happy

Hi Mum99

Nice to see you around.

Yes, you're right in pointing out my phrase of  "in the world" actually means "in the place where one's staying" (like in my case, it would have been in HK, UK, NZ & Australia at a particular time etc.)

But, the MAIN reason that I've decided to use "in the world" is because this's my Writing Style,

"Exaggeration Attracts MAXIMUM Attention."

(HK newspapers adopting the Same approach in writing their Headlines!)

I did the same thing about 3 years ago in writing a post in the www.move2nz.com, titled

"Don't come to NZ if you......."

(Instead of using a traditional approach like "Things you've to consider before emigrating to NZ)

Because I always believe there is More than 1 way in doing things and I prefer the Fun Way - people Learn Best when they're Relax.

(And I subsequently helped a Canadian Family emigrated to NZ and did it for FREE)

So, why do I want MAXIMUM Attention?
It's for you lot to figure it out.

Now, move onto to another BK parent, mighty.

You've brought up some very interesting points in your fedback. As Everyone is a Teacher, do you mind Enlightening me by sharing with me and/or other Eager to learn parents of the following :-

1) How did you come to the Conclusion that,

"Parents Trying their Best for their Children are Actually Spoiling their Children?",

as stated in your comments?

(I've heard parents getting the Latest Mobile are Spoiling their Children;  I've heard parents getting the Designer Clothings are Spoiling their Children etc.  But, I've NEVER heard of parents getting Children into the Best School are Spoiling their Children! (Though may Create Pressure)

2) Have you NOT known that many parents in HK have Full British Passport (i.e. the European Passport), allowing them to live and work (and of course their children to study) in any of the 27 Countries in the EC, which is soon to become a 30-Country Community?

(And some of these parents ALSO have either Canadian or Australian Pasports etc., meaning that they like you have suggested "Could Move to Anywhere they want", given that they have the Right, the Skill and the Money to live almost anywhere they want.

And myself?  Unlike my "Elited Friends" - the Elite of the 80s - who are Highly Successful Presidents, Medical Consultants, Chief Financial Officers etc., who can BUY any country residency as an Investor, I only have the Residency of 30 Countries/Territories)

3) Given that you're Good at Simplified Chinese Writing, am I right in assuming you were born in or recently come from Mainland China?

4) Assuming the above is right and given that you've a Young Daughter, am I also right in asuming the Main reason you've come to HK is, In Search for a Better Future for your Daughter?

5) Am I right too in assuming you've NOT written any post/thread yourself,  but rather enjoying in dropping comments, sometimes quite Unpleasant Comments, in others' forums?

6) Last but not least, you've named yourself "mighty" - is there anything to do with you thinking you're the "Mighty God"?

Cheers
Fate
What We Were Make Us What We ARE

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作者: courtbas 時間: 08-7-6 23:25

Why don't you share your experience with us and your view on which is the best school in the word, in your opinion after living in more than 10 cities in 4 countries.

I certainly do not have an answer to this as I've only looked at HK's schools so far.

原文章由 Fate 於 08-7-5 18:38 發表
Dear Thinking, Working & Planning Hard for your Children's Future Parents

In search for the Best School in the world, my wife and I have been living in more than 10 Cities in 4 Countries/Territories. ...

作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-7 08:59 標題: Be Grateful

Hi thankful

You've chosen a Great Name.

Indeed, one has to be Thankful in this very Challenging Times in HK, when one has to compete for live chickens with other if not Elder C9, queue up for the Thai Jasmine rice etc., and of course for the current Biggest Challenge,

Finding the Best Summer Holiday Programme for Children!

I wish I could be the Real Indiana Jones - Harrison Ford. He is like many other Jews in the world,

Rich, Powerful, Determined ........

(Please refer to my current post in the UK parents club, regarding why the Jews are Ruling the World - yes, this time I really mean "The World"!)

As explained before, the terms "The Best", "In the world" were purposedly used to attract MAXIMUM Attention. They are, in fact, meaning in this instance,

"An Excellent School in HK."

To me persoanlly, sharing my Experience in the Straight Forward Format will NOT create the Desirable Outcome. Only when one has Actively & Positively Involved, will their Brain work Harder and Better, then See Things Clearer and Further, resulting ONESELF getting the Answers without being so told!

thankful, I'm thankful for your Positive Feedback.

Cheers
Fate
Life is about Appreciating NOT Complaining

quote]原文章由 thankful 於 08-7-6 18:20 發表

Very interesting! You sound a bit like Indiana Jones spending 11 years travelling around the world in search of the treasure. Come to think of it, Indiana has a much easier task because he is only l ... [/quote]

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作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-7 10:28

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作者: xenonlit 時間: 08-7-7 12:11

Hi Fate,
I have a clear picture now. You were looking for the best school (best for your children I presume) in the places where you were staying. But I cannot figure out why you could not pick out the best one(s) among limited choices as one could always choose the best according to his will, even among 10 rotten eggs. Or in fact your real purpose was to show off to people that you had been living all over the world (exaggerating).

作者: xenonlit 時間: 08-7-7 12:13

Hi Fate,
I have a clear picture now. You were looking for the best school (best for your children I presume) in the places where you were staying. But I cannot figure out why you could not pick out the best one(s) among limited choices as one could always choose the best according to his will, even among 10 rotten eggs. Or in fact your real purpose was to show off to people that you had been living all over the world (exaggerating).

作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-7 14:03

我実在不能不一便笑着、看FATE的回応。　　非常有趣。　　但我覚得有点不公平的是、FATE是想同大家分享自己的感受及資料、但現在給我、XEONLIT等将話題拉開、相信一定有很多家長在期待FATE的発表的、FATE、不要再譲他們久等了、快快公佈吧！！

話雖如此、我有以下回覆：－

　①"Exaggeration Attracts MAXIMUM Attention."
正確！！但還要看這ATTENTION是負面還是正面呢！

②) Have you NOT known that many parents in HK have Full British Passport
有外国護照、不一定就能簡単的到欧洲工作、考慮的因素実在太多了！！　但這是個別父母選択、我不在這多説了。

③Given that you're Good at Simplified Chinese Writing, am I right in assuming you were born in or recently come from Mainland China?

FATE,估錯了、我不是啊。　因我還未学識中文打字、現在是用日文入力的、所以字形有点怪怪的。　

④ Am I right too in assuming you've NOT written any post/thread yourself, but rather enjoying in dropping comments, sometimes quite Unpleasant Comments, in others' forums?

我有開THREAD的,但都是問問題、因没有甚麼可発表。

⑤MIGHTY
這字意思不只一個、可看看字典。　　其実也不要浪費時間、用這字時我没有特別深入探討。

這是一個FORUM形式的WEBSITE,可個別発表意見、偶有持不同意見者、何以用「unpleasant comments」去形容呢？　如果我説的令FATE有UNPLEASANT的感覚、that wld be my least intention,在此道歉道歉！！

作者: owenmami 時間: 08-7-7 16:21

"What is your Definition of the Best School?"
The best school is the one that suits your child.
There is no best school for everyone.

In the HK context, all "famous" schools rely heavily on the input/ support of the child's family. So it's the parents that matters, not the school.

BTW, I thought the best primary schools in the world are in Finland?

作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-7 19:04 標題: Your Most Relevant Factor

Hi courtbas

For a moment, I thought you're working in a Court.

It's indeed my Intention to share with others about my Dramatic Life Experience.

But, do you mind if I'm doing it at a slower pace, as I'm getting a bit old now? (That's why I had found somewhere to hide myself, as I can NOT compete with those "Elites" in HK!)

Also, do you mind sharing with us,

What's the MOST RELEVANT factor you'll look at a school in HK, when considering putting your child therein?

Cheers
Fate
Everyone is Different

原文章由 courtbas 於 08-7-6 23:25 發表
Why don't you share your experience with us and your view on which is the best school in the word, in your opinion after living in more than 10 cities in 4 countries.

I certainly do not have an answe ...

作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-7 19:17 標題: Role Model for Our Children?

Hi thankful

What a Pity - you'd a Great Beginning.
And I was Hoping a Great Ending too.

Since children Learn Most & Best from their Parents, AND from what their parents DO rather than Say, do you think we've set ourselves a Good Example by,

Easily Giving Up? AND

Pointing Fingers at others and Blaming Everyone Else?

In Life, we ALL have a Choice.

In BK, everyone also has a Choice too,

One can Actively and Positively Enagaged by showing Self Respect & Respect for Others along the way;

OR

Once can enjoy some Quiet Reading;

OR

One can just move on and read other posts/threads.

I Respect Your Choice.

Are we all as Responsible Parents NOT teaching our children to be Honest, Caring, Respectful etc. - but how many of us are actually Doing it Ourselves?

Cheers
Fate
Be Respectful by showing others Respect First

原文章由 thankful 於 08-7-7 10:28 發表
I give up! You are either mad or you have an ulterior motive, or you are both! (By the way, I am not exaggerating!)

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-7 19:24 標題: Respond Later

Hi xenonlit, Mighty & owenmami

You lot have raised some interesting points, which I'll respond later as I really have to start my usual Monday Night Martial Art Training NOW.

Cheers
Fate
Life is about having Something to Look Forward To

作者: RichMPoorM 時間: 08-7-7 19:36

To certain extent, I share the same thinking as owenmami. Assuming each school gets the same funding from government, the school can rely heavily on the resourses from parents, both in money terms and in manpower terms. There comes to my agreement => So it's the parents that matters, notthe school.

Thanks Fate for introducing me your's topic and excuse me I am a bit sidetrack here.

原文章由 owenmami 於 08-7-7 16:21 發表
In the HK context, all "famous" schools rely heavily on the input/support of the child's family. So it's the parents that matters, notthe school.

作者: mattsmum 時間: 08-7-7 20:03 標題: 回覆 #6 Mighty 的文章

yes, mighty's chinese is like japanese charactor to me.

作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-8 01:31

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-8 10:56 標題: Thanks

Hi Mum 99

Thanks for your support and I was meant to response to xenonlit, Mighty & owenmami FIRST.

But, since you've brought up a very Important Point and I do feel it's essential to Clarify Without Delay,

I will NOT give up my sharing just because of One Disrespecful & Disruptive parent - just like a teacher will NOT give up the Whole Class simply because of a Disruptive child.

I appreicate your, like many other Quietly Reading Majority, understanding,

Everyone has a Busy Schedule in Life and people do have their Own Priorities.

Having stated the above, I aim to repsond to xeonlit, Mighty and owenmami WITHIN today, and thankful tomorrow.

I have NO doubt that you're a Happy Person, as you've looked at the Positive Sides of everything - and your Positive Energy has almost guarantted your child is to be a Happy Person too.

Cheers
Fate
Happy Parents Bring Up Happy Children

原文章由 Mum99 於 08-7-8 09:08 發表
I feel so sorry for you, Fate. You have donated so much of your valuable time and energy in trying to make us the parents think harder for our children, but sadly have been constantly disrupted by on ...

作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-8 11:59

Sorry, Fate, I have to interupt. I have learn many from your other sharing in the family money section, I am now a patient investor. I am quiet reading this forum until now.

I feel so happy for you, thankful. You must be enjoying being nasty to Fate (and other people around you?). Fate hinted you could move on if you are not happy. No one is pointing a gun at you, demanding you to read Fate's sharing. Are you going to share with us what gain Fate is to make by this sharing? All Fate did was asking a question, "What is your definition of the best school?"

Fate, if I am you, I will not bother to answer thankful. Someone just want to be destructive and enjoying in control others life. I now know why there are winners and losers in this society.

原文章由 thankful 於 08-7-8 10:38 發表
I feel so happy for you, Fate. You have spent so much of your worthless time in trying to get the maximum attention and interests of the parents for your own personal gains, but all in vain. Fortun ...

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-8 20:50 標題: Show Off For.....?

Hi xenonlit

So, you think my "Real Purpose" was to show off to others I had lived all over the world?

Just out of Curiosity, could I ask what do you think I could acutally GAIN from this, according to you, "Show Off".

So that I can get a job as a Guide from any BK parent operating a travel agency?

Or getting myslef a job as an Estate Agent from any BK parent operating an international property firm?

Please Do Excuse Me, I was laughing.

I was wondering was it because you have never lived in a place other than HK Yourself, making you to so logically conclude the ONLY reason I had stated that was I love Showing Off.

Oh, yes, of course, may be you think, by Showing Off, I could make myself HIGH. Just to let you know I have long passed the stage of "Ascertaining Myself by Others' Appraise".

But, I'm Truly Amused by your Analytical Skill.

Yes, you're Right Spot On in saying I've NOT find the best school, though I am still trying.

Yes, following the Same Principle of your Logical Deduction of "make the most of the existing rotten eggs", I did settle on a, to me personally, Better School instead.

Cheers
Fate
Limited Experience Limits Our Vision

原文章由 xenonlit 於 08-7-7 12:13 發表
Hi Fate,
I have a clear picture now. You were looking for the best school (best for your children I presume) in the places where you were staying. But I cannot figure out why you could not pick out th ...

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-8 21:20 標題: Welcome Back & One Step at a Time

Welcome Back, Mighty

You've made a Spectacular Return.

Glad that you've seen the Humorous Side of Everything in Life. After all, Most people having more or less the same events in Life, and the only difference is :

How a particular individual deals with each event.

(And one of our main duties as parents is to adequately equip our children to effectively deal with the numerous Disappointments, Frustrations, Harrassments etc. in their Life)

There Might be TWO Misconceptions about this thread,

1) Fate is the ONLY person to tell us all , AND
2) Fate's to use a simple straight forward guide to tell us.

My responses to the above are :-

1) I Sincerely invite ALL Positive BK parents to forward their Valuable, Sensible and Humble Views about anything regarding the Best School;

(My wife keeps reminding me the simple reason of humans having two ears, two eyes and only one mouth - to Listen More, to See More and Speak Less!)

2) I wll share with you all about my Experiences in time, but NOT in a way like what my secondary history teacher did, Step 1... Step 2.

Hope the above clarify.

Cheers
Fate
Rushing = Missing the Most Important Things in Life

原文章由 Mighty 於 08-7-7 14:03 發表
我実在不能不一便笑着、看FATE的回応。　　非常有趣。　　但我覚得有点不公平的是、FATE是想同大家分享自己的感受及資料、但現在給我、XEONLIT等将話題拉開、相信一定有很多家長在期待FATE的発表的、FATE、不要再譲 ...

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-8 21:42 標題: Cannot Agree

Hi owenmami

I cannot agree with you MORE about the Best School!!

Other than the reason you've mentioned (i.e. Every Child's needs is different - which I totally agree), I'll come back with my other Reasons/Observations at a later time.

Yes, I agree with you completely,

The Most Important factor in a Child's Development is their Parents.

Yes, Education System in Finland (in fact, in other Scandinavian Countires like Denamark, Normway too) is consistently being ranked at the top end of international reasearch. (So are their Health System)

I once saw a short TV report, reporting the Scandinavian Countries do NOT start formal education until the age of around 7 (e.g. they do NOT wear unifrom). E.g. when the children are taught about a flower, they will be taken to the bush to see, smell and touch this flower rather than looking at a picture from a book!

ownemami, once again, thanks for your Positive Feedback.

Cheers
Fate
Global Thinking, Local Gaining

原文章由 owenmami 於 08-7-7 16:21 發表
"What is your Definition of the Best School?"
The best school is the one that suits your child.
There is no best school for everyone.

In the HK context, all "famous" schools rely heavily on the input ...

作者: chingyu 時間: 08-7-8 23:23

Hi Thankful,

Just want to let you know that I recongized Fate via BK over a year.  To my impression, he is a humble, generous and wise dad.  His sons definitely are one of the luckiest boys in the world. (hee... please don't challenge me "in the world" 'coz I mentioned "one of ")

For last trip he came back HK from Australia in Nov, I met him with his wife and his two sons at the fair of RC.

He didn't sell me anything so far.  Instead, he keeps introducing some positive thinking and sharing to me.

Besides, I also read the photos of Fate's new apartment in Australia.

Hopefully it may let you believe Fate who is a real dad. Besides, it proves that your guess was incorrect.

"Thankful", actually I am quiet reader because I don't have much time in BK, may I know if you are "christf"?  Both of your tones are so harsh and unfriendly to others.

chingyu

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作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-9 01:52

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作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-9 11:42

hi, thankful
you are so low, because you are too lonely, too angry, too misery, too much time, too sorry for you.
do you now happy by wasting your time in attacking others? and wasting others time. owenmami, xeonlit made good inputs, can you behave like them?

原文章由 thankful 於 08-7-9 01:52 發表
Hi, Chingyu,

I am not Christf. I had an argument with Christf before. I can't say that I like him and he probably hates my guts. But I can tell you, Christf is a lot wiser than me because he won't ...

作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-9 12:13

hi, angry thankful again

Another point is, you offended fate, mum99, chingyu and many many quiet reading parents, is that the reason you become a bk member?

we are all here to help each other by sharing good inputs. your attacking style is not welcome. if I ask you to shut up, you are offended, this is the same when you asked fate to speed up, you are offending him.

fate stated cleared he wants others inputs first and will respond to you sometime today. And you just can not wait and keep on shouting and shouting and shouting, and then offending more people.

It is you that wasting others time. It is you that mad.

I will not respond to a mad person like you any more, completely waste of my time.

sorry, fate, I just can not see this thankful ruining your forum, I have to make a stand.

原文章由 thankful 於 08-7-9 01:52 發表
Hi, Chingyu,

I am not Christf. I had an argument with Christf before. I can't say that I like him and he probably hates my guts. But I can tell you, Christf is a lot wiser than me because he won't ...

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作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-9 15:34

其実譲我們反璞帰真、再看看ＦＡＴＥ開出的ＴＨＲＥＡＤ、大家是否有興趣発表意見、有的、便発表一下、没有的、便可看可不看。　　我是第一個回応的人、所以我発表了、不再多説。　話得説回來、無論英文や好、中文也好、総覚得以簡潔、直接為主就最好了。　　因今日大家不是作詩作詞的文人雅士、到題便ＯＫ了、不是嗎？　冗長的文章、或來得空洞的、看來看去、也不知在説甚麼。　如果今日ＦＡＴＥ開的ＴＨＲＥＡＤ是類似「心目中最好的学校応具備何種条件（因素）」、我相信很多父母已回応了。　　奈何ＴＨＲＥＡＤ是Searching the best school in the world、看内容又好像不到題、所以有時我也会像ＴＨＡＮＫＦＵＬ的想法一様、為何不直接了当的説出自己的想法、及生活体験、譲大家分享分享呢！！
説回ＦＡＴＥ説因看我用簡体字、就覚得我是従祖国過來的、ＦＡＴＥ有没有留意現在的国際学校其実大部分都教簡体字了、我們可能要接受下一代会多用簡体字了。
有ＭＥＭＢＥＲ説喜歓北欧的学校、覚得質素高、我也賛成、但北欧社会制度同香港完全不同、税制高、差不多人人平等、是真実的共産主義国家。　　香港不可能行這套的。　　也有提及提唱７歳以後才上学、、、記得有一在香港任教的ＮＥＴ　ＴＥＡＣＨＥＲ告訴我、可以的話不要勉強児女７歳前学写中文字、因這会妨害他們的ＣＲＥＡＴＩＶＩＴＹ発展、理想帰理想、在香港可以嗎?

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原文章由 daydream 於 08-7-9 14:56 發表
Don't be so stupid

Yes, he has been retired (as an employee) for more than 10 years BUT set up hi ...

Ha Ha Ha. He has been retired ... For once I am with you Daydream.

作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-9 16:04

Fate,

Since listing your school choices in so many countries is so difficult for you (if not, what takes you so long?), please share with us your experience with the UK, especially Greater London area and Ireland.

作者: Twolovelyboys 時間: 08-7-9 17:14 標題: Would this be thee perfect solution to end arguement ????

Dear all,

I have been following this thread for the last week it is very interesting how this arguement have developed.

In the blue corner we have Thankful, daydream,iamfine..etc, who felt frustrated, going round in circles, being treated as if we were in kindergarten (and i must admit this was how I felt at the begining).  "Fate" has lots of philosophy on life - "Do we live to eat or do we eat to live".... and so on.  He also likes to keep people guessing - "what have I got in my pocket can you guess?".

In the red corner we have mum99, papa2000,chingyu ..etc, who obviously know "Fate" quite well through his other threads in this forum.  I sure what they describe "Fate" as a "humble, generous and wise dad" is true.

It funny how that when I read comments from the Thankful and daydream I alway tend to stand on the blue corner and say to myself why am I listening to this guy blabbling on about his "Life's experience", its got nothing to do with me and how my kids perform in international school.

But when I read comments from mum99, chingyu and papa2000, I tend to stand on the red corner as I understand comments from "Fate" life experience which I never learned as a child and that a person should view life in a light-hearted and fun way.

This is called empathy.

This arguement will just go on and on with neither corner backing down.  I did a bit of searching and detective work and have found the perfect solution !!!!

Those in the blue corner should go to the following thread
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=1369608&page=3#pid25384622. (dated 08-04-15 20:45)
which clearly explains Fate view on the the best school in the world) In his own word:

"It is also worth mentioning, after 10 year of searching over 4 Countries for the Best School, I would like to share with you my Four Observations :-

1) ....................best School in this World. ........."

For those in the red corner I suggest you skip the above thread and carrying debating "which is the best school in the world" and sharing life's experiences with "Fate".

作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-9 18:02 標題: Back as Promised

Dear All Actively & Quietly Involved Parents,

I'm back as promised in my following reply to Mum99 - I'm here to repsond to thankful.

But bear with my poor typing skill, it may take sometime.

Cheers
Fate
Life is a Journey NOT a Competition

原文章由 Fate 於 08-7-8 10:56 發表
Hi Mum 99

Thanks for your support and I was meant to response to xenonlit, Mighty & owenmami FIRST.

But, since you've brought up a very Important Point and I do feel it's essential to Clarify Withou ...

作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-9 18:38

Twolovelyboys : my salute to you.. I absolutely admire your patience, calmness and observation in this thread.

Hi Fate, let me help you as you said you are not very good at typing.  Here you go:-

Quote
It is also worth mentioning, after 10 year of searching over 4 Countries for the Best School, I would like to share with you my Four Observations :-

1) There is NO Best School in this World.

Like Every Country, Every School has Something to Offer.

The Only difference is,

What the school offers actually Matches what one needs at a particular point of  time.

2) Other than the Top 10% & the Bottom 10%, the Majority of schools, in majority of places in this World, are More or Less the Same Standard;

3) The Best Education mostly comes from two parts :-

a) Parents

Children learn Most and Mainly from their Parents, AND Mainly from what their Parents DO  than Say.

b) Hardship, Setbacks, Failures etc.

An individual learns their Most Important Skills in Life, More about Themselves, Others and the Nature when they are hit by all these Failures, Disappointments etc. in Life.  How well they handle the Ugly Side of Life is to Determine how Happy or Successful they subsequently are.

Hope I have NOT confused you.

Cheers
Fate
Stay Clam. Stay Focus. And you will be There.
Unquote

So Fate, no need to retype and no need to say thank you either.  It is your own words anyway.  I just wanted to help by simply "copy & paste".

I think you have answered your own question yourself and that is what was said right from the beginning by another member that there is no so-called The Best School in the World.

End of the story, yes?

作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-9 18:40 標題: Part 1- My Promise

Hi thankful,

Although there're parents openly through feedback and quietly through pm (and even yourself suggesting) there's no need to respond to you, I take up the Challenge in responding because of two reasons:-

1) My boys

I've constantly reminded my aged 9 and aged 5 boys,

"It's Wrong to walk away from any Challenge in Life, we've to deal with it there and then and with our best Abilities."

Because to have True & Long Lasting Success in Life, one has to have the Right Attitudes & the Right Abilities and in THIS Order; and

2) Your Kids at SIS (Primary)

Every child deserves More time with their parents.  And I've noticed you were sending a reply to chinyu even at 0152 hrs!!  I really hope my following answers to your questions will calm things down a bit and and everything is back to normal.  After all, the Best Gift to our child is Our Time.

Well, I must admit I admire your Fighting Spirit.
You Never Give Up.  But what if you've been Fighting Under the Wrong Presumptions?  I often remind experienced investors the golden rule before them rushing to invest to ask themselves one question,

'What if I'm WRONG?"

thankful, have you ever thought if there is a possibly you've made WRONG Pressumptions about me?

I must also admit I admire your Attention To Details.
You like a CID. But what about you have MISSED the Most Important details?

thankful, have you ever thought had you stopped arguing for a minute and patiently read the feedback from xenonlit & owenmami for one minute (and my responses to them), you'd have already found the answers you'd Pressurised so Hard for?

......................TO BE CONTINUED..........................

(It's 2038 hrs here in Sunshine Coast, Australia, I've to take my boys to bed and have "10-munite talk about - the things they like most for today."  After all, we're here to Develop Good Habits for our Children. Back soon.)

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-9 20:34 標題: Part 2 - My Answers

Hi thankful

For a moment , I thought you're part of my Family.

You're a bit like my Dad.  He critised a Taiwan made TV series, "Body Guard" broadcasted in TVB in the 70s, but still everynight he sat on the chair in front of TV right on time to watch the programme!!

Just like you keep saying I've been wasting your time, and yet you've kept reading my thread & keep writing feedbacks! So you've concluded it was My Fault you keep reading my thread?

You're a bit like my Wife. She often says I'm "Mad"like you did  - because she does NOT like me going too far in helping others. (And she once stated she must have been in her Worst Year & eyes covered by Ghost to have married me!)

You're a bit like my 5-year-old boy, keep saying, "Prove it, Prove it!" You have questioned I may not even have a child - but at least I should be given the credits for getting a "FAKED" boys photo to attach - and have you?  Please feel free to confirm with other BK parents:

- ngmammy, chelsea, Suk du fuk - our families had a great time in Tsing Yi.  And I had learnt so much from their children, from ngmammy's Love for Reading, chelsea's NOT having portable computer games, Suk duk fuk's Eager to Share. It's our duty as parents to Observe and Learn from others - their children NEVER told me anything; (And I even exchanged HK$100 for tokens for their 5 children to play at the Jumping Gym)

- chingyu, carolsin - our families met in the RC's Fun Day. I learnt from their children How Easy to Be a Happy Person - again they NEVER told me this either;

- ALAU - their family followed us all the way from GoldCoast & stayed at our home in Sunshine Coast and had a great time together.

They can tell you I'm Real and have two boys.

Or you can contact other BK memebers like,
RichMPoorM - how I rang her in UK to clarify and share investment tips;
missi - how I rang her in Canada to share investment tips;

They can tell you how far I stretch out to help others;

Do I need to go on?

You're also a bit like my Ex-Boss, ordering me to do this and that, in a particular order & in a short time.

thankful, do you appreciate people have other committments in Life?  I started the post at 1838 hrs on 5 July (that is in Australia, it was 2038 hrs!) and at 1028 hrs on 7 July you already called me Mad - that's only 1 1/2 day in between, I needed to sleep, eat, bath, exercise as warned by my GP, washing dishes, mowing lawn, cleaning swimming pool etc. as ordered by my wife etc. and take my boys out for trips - yes, we 're now in school holidays in Australia! And yes, I do NOT have a domestic helper!

You're a bit like my Mother-in-law, so Suspicious about everything. What kind of Gains I'm to get from this thread?  Selling a List of Best Schools to BK parents? Selling the Tips of getting into the Best School?  Working as an Immigration Consultant, Owning an Overseas Investment Consultancy Firm etc. I wish my boys are having such Great Imaginations like you lot!

May be you lot are too young, I'm 45 (any Rabbit out there?) . I presume you lot therefore may have never heard of "Confidential Schemes for Certain Senior Civil Servants". I was offered a Deal in 97 and I took it.  Have I ever laughed at you lot for not knowing this Fact? (At July 1997, I had a Monthy Salary of about HK$52,000 + a Monthly Housing Allowance of about HK$18,000 - Happy?)

Did I NOT know you could be Sarcastic when comparing me wiht Indiana Jones?  Of course, I do but, what If I'm wrong - so I preferred seeing it as a Compliment - rather than seeing the Negative side of you.  If you had read more in details (just few more lines), you would have noticed I was NOT being Sarcastic like you, I was  actually Complimenting xenonlit's Analytical Skill.

Alright , now come to the part you're Most Interested, My Dramatic Life Experience.

Cheers
Fate
Be Kind and Everything Comes to You

原文章由 Fate 於 08-7-9 18:40 發表
Hi thankful,

Although there're parents openly through feedback and quietly through pm (and even yourself suggesting) there's no need to respond to you, I take up the Challenge in responding because o ...

[ 本文章最後由 Fate 於 08-7-9 20:52 編輯 ]

作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-9 21:41 標題: Part 3 - My Dramatic Life

hi thankful,

Let me just concentrate for the last 13 years, because you never seem to have enough time, and also Unluck 13 is a good start in refreshing about 1/3  of Dramatic Life.

At 32, I was already a Millionare & 2 years into my Senior Civil Servant role;

At 32, I had also stood more than once on a MTR platform, thinking that if I jumped down, there would be NO more sufferings - I was, at one point, very Deprssed due to Work Related Stress but I Survived.

At 34, I earned more than HK$100,000 a week due to my Red Chip shares' non stop rising, but only to see them dropped by over 50% within a year due to Asian Crisis!

At 34, just 4 days before leaving HK for UK, I bought the Most Expansive HOS flat in Mongkok (though I would have thought it was in Tai Kok Tsui), it was HK$3,300 per square feet even at 50% discount of the market price, but only to see it drop by over 55% within a year due to Asian Crisis!

At 35, so, my wife & I had to squeeze in a tiny room near Wood Green, London, paying 50 pounds a week, sharing a toilet with eight other persons, one of which was a pregnant woman who often caused a long queue O/S toilet!

At 39, we sold our semi- detached house in Totteridge N20, London and went to NZ (my wife is a RN).  Our Mortgage was instantly gone, thanks to the Dramatic House Appreication in UK and the Great Exchange Rate. We thought we had nothing to worry from then on.

But, on 20 July 2005, in NZ, my wife suddenly shouted loud in my younger boy's room (who was then about 2 1/2), askiing me to rush to the room.

I saw my wife hitting my boy's face quite hard, massaging his heart with three fingers, crying and saying loud to my second boy,

"Come back, my boy.
Don't go, my boy.
Mum is here.
Don't give up on us.
Wake up, m boy....."

My younger boy was not responding, his limbs were powerless, his eyes half open half close etc.  we rushed into the car, my wife kept doing the above.

That's the Most Difficult Moment in my Life and the Longest Drive to Emergency, which is only a 7-minute drive.  It's so hard to see your own child going and going, right in front of you, second by second.

I then made a Promise in Life,

"If my boy survives this, I'll do whatever I can for the rest of my Life to help other children."

And my younger child DID start to wake up  before us arriving the Emergency.

I had so much Tears in my eyes and then so much Joy.

So what did I write this post?
So, what was my Hidden Agenda?

I wish every parent to undestand,

We're to make Good Memories for Our Children.
We've to be Happy First.

It's NOT us bringing Our Children to this world, it's Our Children Bringing Us to this world - they bring us to be their Guiding Angels.

We're NOT the Best Ourselves, why do we have to push Our Innocent Children to be one?

Sorry, have to go, I cannot stop my tears because of the flashing images of my younger boy's incident.

Cheers
Fate
The Greatest Burden in Life is Parents' Unreasonable Expectations

作者: bbjan 時間: 08-7-9 22:33

Enjoy reading yr post, FATE. I like yr New Age style of response.

Thank you for sharing yr life story. It touch my heart.

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作者: Fate 時間: 08-7-10 07:27 標題: Part 4 - My Questions

Hi the not so thankful thankful

Since you enjoy pressing others with questions and I've answered some if not all of them, and it's only Fair that it's my turn now to ask you some questions :

1) Why did you have to be even More Aggressive to me every when a BK parent supporting me?

2) Could you provide me 3 BK parents that have seen you in person? (I gave you 5)

3) What is the title of your BK thread you've open  YOURSELF;

4) What makes you Happy?
(Other than Being Sarcastic - you used this term yourself)

5) When is the last time you helped others?

6) When is the last time you said "Sorry" to others?

7) Have you seen a USA movie called, "Pay It Forward"?

After my second child "Near Death" Incident, I spent a few days alone, asking myself,

"What have I done to deserve this?"

And then I realised how Wrong I had been.

Before leaving HK, I already owned the name of "The King of Complaint". I had a 100% Successful Rate. Big Firms had to pay me compensation in cash or gift vouchers or points as "One Off", "Gesture of Goodwill etc. time and time again. Just to give you two examples,

I had made the Assistant CEO of Hang Senk Bank asking his driver to take him from his office at Central  to my office at TKO, then taking me out for a free lunch to settle my complaint.

I had made a solicitor sending in his messenger at 2100 hrs to hand deliver an "Apologising Letter" to me.

I had been offered free meals from my friends, helping them to write Complaining Letters and, of course, seeking compensation.

I continued my life as the "King Of Complaint" when I moved to UK. Again, just to give you two examples.

I had a Regional Manager of HSBC to visit me at my Toteridge (N20) home to offer Personal Apology.

I had the CEO of Laings Home visited me at my Mill Hill (MW7) to offer Personal Apology and Compensation.

I never felt So Good, So Great, So Powerful,

"I'm in Total Control, I'm the Boss" I once said it to myself.

What starting off as merely Fight Back of being Victimised by firms' mistake had become something controllable - I started looking forward to be Victimised, so that I could Complain - I was totally in love of Complaining!

But, then after my second child's incident,  I had finally woke up.  I then realised How Mean, How Sarcastic, How Naive, How Arrogant, How Ignornant, How Hollow, and bascially How Terrible a person I had been!  How much Hattress Trapped WITHIN Myself.

I realised the Ultimate Punishement had finally caught up with me.  And the Worst Bit, it happend to Your Most Loved One to ensure the Greatest Damage!

From that day onwards, I started changing myself.  When firm making mistakes, I draw their attention in a Positive Way, showing them what the mistakes were and  how I would have done to have prevented the mistakes from happening in the first place.

I began to feel better, began to understand the Wisdom of

"Forgiveness is the Best Biggest Gift in Life, to Oneself, to Others."

thankful, do you think I've NOT thought of the possibility that you're actually a Nasty Person, committing all these Offensive Acts (like Dictating what others should do, how they should do etc.), thinking that you could get away from hiding in your Virtual Identity?

Do youn think I have NOT thought of the possibility that you're actually a Lonely Person, desperately Seeking Attention by being Unreasoanable, Unfair etc. to others?

Of course, I did.  But, I also reminded myself,

"What if I'm Wrong? And you're a Real Person with children."

And if this is the case, what do all these leading you to?

If you were Smarter, Wiser, Have Better Carerer, Have More Money, Have Better Education etc. than I;

If your WERE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT AND I WERE ABSOLUTELY WRONG,

Does the above make you a Better Person, a Better Parent?

I constantly remind my boys,

"Being Right does NOT give you the Right to be Rude."

And you've NOT been Right from a start.

There are Good Sides and Bad Sides inside every peson. It's about time to show us your Other Side.

thankful, I suggest you to take a ferry ride from the Central, have a nice cup of tea on board, look further and deeper, let go all of your Unhappy Life Experiences and Negative Emotions, and arriving in Kowloon with a New Vision.

I've to thank you for showing us the Classcial Example of,

"How a Prejudice, Egoism  can Impair a Person's Judgement."

(And basically any Negative Emotions , which have the Potentails in Destroying a person)

thankful, in Life we all making choices.

You now have a choice, you either come back and show us your Other Side and be a Friend,

OR

Continue to be Negative, which I do NOT have time for - and you could Take Over the thread if you want for your Own Satisfaction or Gain or sorry what ulxx what is the word you love to use to decribe motive again ,as you obviously enjoying being the Centre of Attraction.

And one HK famous Writer/Producer Choi Lan once stated,

"Never Bother to be a Friend of a Negative Person"

It's NOT about you or I, it's about Our Children - they're watching us. Copying Us.

Looking Forward to Your Answers to my above questions and meeting the Goood Side of thankful.

So will you excuse now, as I've to take my boys to a maze (www.bellmaze.com)

Cheers
Fate
Passing on Our Positives to Our Children

原文章由 Fate 於 08-7-9 21:41 發表
hi thankful,

Let me just concentrate for the last 13 years, because you never seem to have enough time, and also Unluck 13 is a good start in refreshing about 1/3 of Dramatic Life.

At 32, I was alr ...

[ 本文章最後由 Fate 於 08-7-10 07:39 編輯 ]

作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-10 08:52

hi fate, sorry to hear about your child, I am feel for you. I now think I know what you want us to find out ourselves. There is no best school and the best education is at home from parents. We have to be positive and kind to other people to make sure our children positively effected by us. Honestly, I had read something like this before many times, I had forgot about them, this time, I can remember better after this thinking and arguing and your different method in presenting your ideas. Thanks. I only hope there are more parents also appreciate your good cause.

Sorry to parents I unintentionally offended before during the heated (and now know productive) debate.

原文章由 Fate 於 08-7-10 07:27 發表
Hi the not so thankful thankful

Since you enjoy pressing others with questions and I've answered some if not all of them, and it's only Fair that it's my turn now to ask you some questions :

1) Why ...

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 10:23

Am I the only one to feel that Fate talks like a cult leader?  Probably it is all too new age to me and I am too old.  I prefer substance to mere talking.

BTW, I see nothing very dramatic in Fate's history.  One of my helpers has a far more dramatic life.  And she does not talk nonsense.

And yet BTW, as thankful said, don't brag with figures unless you want to be the laughing stock of the world. (You did give me a good laugh this morning nevertheless when I read you post.)

And yet further BTW, I enjoy the quotable quotes at the end of Fate's posts.  They are far more worth reading than what is on top of them.  Also save me some time to look for George Sayer's books.

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 11:17

Let go back to the topic. In search of the best school (or four best schools, one in four different countries, or eleven ones in eleven different world major cities, if that matters), one has to keep an open-mind, be wise, stay positive and avoid all the negative influences in life. If you really try, you will find it/them. If you cannot find it/them, it is only because you did not try hard enough. Try it again, take a deep breath, slow down and go deep into your inner self – have you ex-boss or in laws affected you too much? Do you hate them too much that you let yourself be blinded? Remember, stay positive. You must not let your past experiences, happy or unhappy, influence you too much. The priority is now. Say a poetry of a Yogi if that helps. Awakening your heart and your inner self is the key in the eternal search for the best school. When you are filled with hope and glory and love, and when you are not troubled by people like thankful, iamfine and daydream, you will see the light. The best schools are in the light.

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作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-10 11:29

God! May God help you!

原文章由 thankful 於 08-7-10 10:17 發表
Fate,

Here are my answers.  As I said, I will be concise and straight to the point.
(1)  I was just presenting my views on your postings.  How many BK parents support you is not relevant, is it?
(2)  ...

作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-10 11:40

Words on their own are meaningless. Our kids can learn a word a day from a dictionary, a maths formula from a text book everyday, why do we send them to school? We attend church for the same purpose, we can read pages of Bible on our own, it will be different if there is a person to help us, not telling everything to us, to find the answers ourselves.

May God help you.

原文章由 iamfine 於 08-7-10 11:17 發表
Let go back to the topic. In search of the best school (or four best schools, one in four different countries, or eleven ones in eleven different world major cities, if that matters), one has to keep ...

作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 11:40

If the poetry of Yogi does not work, you may try 般若波羅密多心經 -

般若波羅密多心經

觀自在菩薩行深般若波羅密多時照見五蘊皆空度一切苦厄舍利子色不異空空不異色色即是空空即是色受想行識亦復如是舍利子是諸法空相不生不滅不垢不淨不增不減是故空中無色無受想行識無眼耳鼻舌身意無色聲香味觸法無眼界乃至無意識界無無明亦無無明盡乃至無老死亦無老死盡無苦集滅道無智亦無得以無所得故菩提薩埵依般若波羅密多故心無罣礙無罣礙故無有恐怖遠離顛倒夢想究竟涅槃三世諸佛依般若波羅密多故得阿耨多羅三藐三菩提故知般若波羅密多是大神咒是大明咒是無上咒是無等等咒能除一切苦真實不虛故說般若波羅密多咒即說咒曰揭諦揭諦波羅揭諦波羅僧揭諦菩提薩婆訶

Be patient, take your time. The search for the best schools is never easy. May The Shari'A be with you. Amen

作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-10 11:54

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 12:20

Hi thankful,

You are right. I got too carried away. But Fate's posts are so amusing and entertaining (I did have a good laugh after reading what he said about his DRAMATIC life) that I could not help it. I am still laughing and feel like having a big glass of Venve-Clicquot for lunch.

原文章由 thankful 於 08-7-10 12:09 發表
Sorry, iamfine. For a moment, I thought that you had been overwhelmed by Fate and his friends' gibberish and gone mad! Fate said that he has long passed the stage of "ascertaining himself by others' ...

作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-10 13:39

Hey you two little naughty things, THANKFUL and IAMFINE, so you have got the upper hand now, can you please give FATE time to breath and think.  But I must admit this little thread is really amusing to read.  So keep it going and give us some fun!!
Having said that, hey all of you, stop involving your family members into this thread, if I can kindly ask you to do so.  "Sorry for your kids, your wife blablabla"... this thread is purely an exchange of opinions among us and it is unfair for us to involve them.  Dont you agree?
THANKFUL, I must say I agree with you on 3 things:-
(1) be straightforward - well unless this is your blog then you can write whatever style you like
(2) I dont want any details either - someone's salary figures etc.  Simply because it is none of my business, be it big or small
(3) Plenty more people suffered or still suffering from  1997, SARS crisis, or the recent crashing stock market.  I dont see Fate's life experience is anything dramatic.  Well at least, he can still stand on his feet, got a lovely wife, 2 lovely boys and live in UK or Australia (I dont know) - two not so bad countries.
My 2 million worth!!

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作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-10 18:08

The truth is at last out. Wolves at last showing its TAILS.
PLEASE LOOK AT THE ATTACHED FEEDBACK MADE BY iamfine.

This proves iamfine, thankful and Mighty are NOT here to make positive contributions, but only here to TEASE at other people's, TO YOU THREE, "mistakes and not so dramatic life experience"

Have you three stood on a train platform almost jumped down? And your son almost died?  This is NOT dramatic enough for you three? COOL BLOOD.  How can any decent human being made fun of others TRAGEDIES? ARE ANY OF YOU REALLY A PARENT? SICK JOKE.

At first, you three appeared to be IMPATIENT ONLY, but as time goes on, it has shown no matter what Fate says, you three keep ATTACKING.  I can not imagine a decent human being has SO MUCH FUN IN ATTACKING only because you three think you are BETTER(?) (And not like others like Fate?)

thankful, you are straight forward for what? BEING RUDE? Investment? Please stop showing off your investment knowledge to Fate. On his FREE advice (YES FREE - SUSPICIOUS?), I had LOST MUCH MUCH MUCH LESS.  I avoid exact figure because Mighty not like figures because herself does not make much? Oh! This may be the REASON you three DISLIKE Fate - He earned MORE $$$ than you three, meeting successful people than you three, living in more countries than you three and so on unintentionally hurting your SELF ESTEM? I accept there are other people better than me, because they work harder or they are more clever and I do not complain, attack the least.

Did you three NOT understand the importance of BEING KIND TO OTHERS? I wanted to buy Fate a big gift after his advice, he refused to accept and asked me to DONATE 5% of profit to a charity.

Substance? Straight forward, Better english and so on is Substance?  It is HONESTY, CARING OTHERS and so on are Substance. Everyone is good at talking. I hope to see you three good at DOING, show other people your SUBSTANCE, BE A GENTLEMAN and STOP ATTACKING LIKE MAD (your word, thankful)

I gave up on you three but I will continue to pray for you three.

Fate, it is NOT WORTHY to respond to iamfine, thankful or Mighty, they are only CONTINUE ATTACKING YOU NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY. THEY SEE YOU AS A TARGET, LIKE CATS PLAYING MOUSE. I am NOT bother to.

原文章由 iamfine 於 08-7-10 12:20 發表
Hi thankful,

You are right. I got too carried away. But Fate's posts are so amusing and entertaining (I did have a good laugh after reading what he said about his DRAMATIC life) that I could not he ...

[ 本文章最後由 Papa2ooo 於 08-7-10 18:36 編輯 ]

作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-10 18:51

Chill out, mate. I thought my input is very positive as I kindly asked you guys not to involve your family memebers in the discussion. But if you took it the other way, cant help it sorry. QUOTE I avoid exact figure because Mighty not like figures because herself does not make much? UNQUOTE Spot on!! I only earn 5K a month.

QUOTE Oh! This may be the REASON you three DISLIKE Fate - He earned MORE $$$ than you three UNQUOTE
I dont dislike him because I dont know him in person. But how come you said he earned $$$ because from what I gathered from you is he does things for free.

作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 20:17

原文章由 Papa2ooo 於 08-7-10 18:08 發表
The truth is at last out. Wolves at last showing its TAILS.
PLEASE LOOK AT THE ATTACHED FEEDBACK MADE BY iamfine.

This proves iamfine, thankful and Mighty are NOT here to make positive contributio ...

COOL. You can see things that is not there.  Is that the result of your following Fate?  WOW. COOL. You know Fate makes more $$$ than Faithful, Daydream and I do? WOW. You know how much I make?  And you know how much tax exemption my company got last year for donating to charities? WOW. WOW. COOL. COOL. I vaguely recall that Lee Hung Chi of FaLunGung said that he got "heavenly eyes" and saw things 1,000 miles away. WOW. You can do that too? WOW.

By the way, I don't care a shit how much people make.  You shouldn't too.

As I said, cult leader and cult followers ...

You guys are really entertaining.  Thanks for all the jokes on a rainy day like today.

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作者: Mum99 時間: 08-7-10 21:11 標題: SAY NO TO BAD CONDUCT CAMPAIGN

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 22:18

原文章由 Mum99 於 08-7-10 21:11 發表
Hi papa2ooo

Me too owe Fate a big thank you, I asked him for investment advice last july through pm, he told me to quickly cash in as big troubles coming. I did and I did not lose big money. Me too w ...

First of all, the word shit is no longer considered an inappropriate word. Check the Oxford Dictionary. I mean the Oxford Dictionary, not the Concise Oxford or the Advanced Learners Oxford. Shame that you don't know that already. Ask your cult leader who has lived in the UK.

I mentioned shit in answer to someone's mentioning of who earns how much and is better off than who and who. I agree that it is bad taste. Are you listening, papa2000 and Fate? Behave. Stop mentioning things like I had who and who delivered an apology to me at midnight and I make more money than you do. It is really bad taste.

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 22:23

By the way, I do feel sorry about what happened to Fate and his son. But, what is the relevance of that? I did not make fun of what happened to them, did I? I challenged what Fate said under THIS thread about his search for the best schools. And, if I am not mistaken, Faithful did exactly the same. Have I missed something? Have you heard of Fate's venture to look for the best schools? Why should he create this thread when he has already said it elsewhere that there is no such thing as the best school?

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作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-10 23:05

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-10 23:14

Fate, are you still around? I am still truly interested in your best schools. What are they and where are they? In Camelot? Atlantis? Or hidden deep inside Mount Olympus?

作者: tingtingting 時間: 08-7-10 23:22

Just curious. Where is Mount Olympus?

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作者: 一條毛 時間: 08-7-11 01:37 標題: 回覆 #82 tingtingting 的文章

After reading this very interesting thread, I can't help stopping to write my 'Static Life Experience'. However, I have to say sorry that I have never try to find the perfect school in the world. Before I write, I have to warn the fellow readers that this will be a very boring one. For those who wish to read about exciting, dramatic incidence can skip it.

Thankful, I can assure you that I have no ulterior motive since there will be no market for a book, pyschological program, investment plan or immigration plan based on 'Static Life Experience'.

Since this is static life, I can start when I was born. I was born in Hong Kong. I was also educated in Hong Kong.

During my under-grad. year, I met my wife. She remains the only woman in my life.

I work under the same roof, even on the same table, but not the same chair (since it torn down!) for the past 20 years. I also have the same sub-ordinate for the past 18 yrs.

In late 80's to early 90's, I lose several hundred dollars in the casino and horse racing course and several thousand dollars in the stock market. Then, I decided to give all my income except for the pocket money to my wife. I knew she made long term, low risk investment but I never border what she did.

In mid 90's, I got immigrate permits from Singapore and New Zealand. I got them for free since I fill up the application form myself. However, due to my 'static' character, we stay in Hong Kong.

In 1997, my wife had already been senior civil servant for x yrs and she earned $xxxxx +$xxxxx housing allowance. However, she was lucky (or unlucky) enough not to work in a diviison (like 政治部 of the Royal Police Force) to handle sensitive information. She was not entitle to "Confidential Schemes for Certain Senior Civil Servants".

During Asian economic crises and SARS, we did lose money. Since my wife only make low risk, long term investment, it is only of norminal value and we quickly recover.

In 2002, my son was born. As most of the parents, I find my son is the most handsome, diligent, brilliant and grifted baby in the world.

Fours yrs ago, I discovered my sub-ordinate log-on BK during working hour. This was the first time I discovered this forum. In here, I came across Daydream and his difference idenities, thankful and many many others. Here, I take this opportunity to thank them to give me some fun in my life.

Two yrs ago, I listened to advice of my friends. I send my son to SIS which I think it is the suitabe school school for him. Last month, his class teacher told me that he was doing excellence in every aspect in school. He also has a couple of little girl friends now.

Last year, I came across a Feng-shui C Fu. When I first met him, he gave me a Chinese herbal medicine formula to treat my bald head, (which I think is a very minor receding hair line and people may not even notice it) for free. He also boost his relationship with many religious leader in Hong Kong. He said he did his Feng-shui job for free and just to 積陰德. Then He said my ancestors were in trouble in the after-world and needed to do a series of 法事 to help them. It needed >$20000. He said the fee was on cost only and he had nothing to do with it. Althougth I did not believe him, I paid the money. It is because my ancestors are very important persons to me. He said 法事 was done in China. I never knew whether it was done.

It is my 'Static Life Experience'. Those who have the patience to read through this may think---"What a boring life".
However, I am very happy and thankful and I learn from all these years to be 隨緣.

作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-11 10:16

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作者: chingyu 時間: 08-7-11 10:40

Now this topic becomes too entertaining.

I believe many readers are chasing this episode because the best selling newspaper is full of “IRONIC”.

Now just like seeing street fighters, punching each other, there are many passer-by laughing, roaring and cheering for this match.

I believe………………..

Everyone has different opinion.
Everyone has different writing style.
Everyone has its own destiny.

If pushing a person to a corner and teasing him/her without dignity, no matter this person is good/bad, it is not acceptable.

Assuming Fate is the worst guy in the world, it is no point to further insult a person in the public.

(For this point, I think no one has a right to judge the other. I have also been betrayed by my best friend.  For this intimate friend, certainly I think she is good in the past.  Otherwise, she can NOT be my friend for 20+ years.  However, if she decided to go another way, I can’t help and stop her. Then, the only thing is that I walk away and enjoy my rest of life.)

It applies the same here.  No one can deny if Fate is a kind person who likes to share his experience.  However, if not, it is readers’ wisdom to avoid problems coming.

I can see both sides are intelligent and well-educated persons.  Why don’t we continue to have some positive postings here?  It’s not worth for arguing.  Be a role model to our kids. Both of your valuable time and knowledge can inspire us more CONSTRUCTIVE but not just so-called interesting/amusing topics.

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作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-11 11:32

Hi Mum 99

Negative people will carry on attacking other people regardlessly, and do more in covering their own mistakes.

Have any responsible parents out there saying' "S..t' word to their child?  To their boss, right in front of him/her, to their mother in law, right in front of her?

Every descent human being knows what is the bottom line, and there are inmature children out there keep crossing the line.  Every descent human being will know what is acceptable and what is not.

Every descent human being will look at the whole picture and not like those inmature children, for some reasons, only focusing on the investment issues. They are only doing it to discredit other people.

Mum 99, there is no need to ask iamfine to say sorry to me, because iamfine, I get used to being swored at in my job.  But, I think he should offer apology for laughing others tradegies, as this is very very offensive.

I SUPPORT YOUR CAMPAIGN.

I support you not to bother with these inmature children, using their favourite pharse, because they are

"completely waste of time"

BTW, I really happy to see you standing up to all these inmature children, saying "enough is enough".

papa2ooo

原文章由 Mum99 於 08-7-10 21:11 發表
Hi papa2ooo

Me too owe Fate a big thank you, I asked him for investment advice last july through pm, he told me to quickly cash in as big troubles coming. I did and I did not lose big money. Me too w ...

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作者: Papa2ooo 時間: 08-7-11 11:41

Hi, chinyu

I have to warn you, in case you not know already, there are some inmature children out there, targeting anyone does not join them in their never ending meaningless attack, and they may SWEAR at you or even throw a few dictionaries at you.

They will never give up, this is their habit, hitting people for fun and enjoyment. Have a look of how one of them just asking "One Hair" if he knows Fate. He is after a person and not a sensible sharing, do not fool by him about "only focus on matter and not people", he just did exactly the opposite.

Good luck and be Positive when facing the Negatives.
God is always with you for your good cause.

papa2ooo

原文章由 chingyu 於 08-7-11 10:40 發表
Now this topic becomes too entertaining.

I believe many readers are chasing this episode because the best selling newspaper is full of “IRONIC”.

Now just like seeing street fighters, punching each ...

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-11 11:48

原文章由 tingtingting 於 08-7-10 23:22 發表
Just curious. Where is Mount Olympus?

On the Mars.

I am not referring to the one in Greece as Fate has apparently said that there is no such thing as the best school in this world (I take it to mean "on this planet as at present").

作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-11 11:53

原文章由 Papa2ooo 於 08-7-11 11:32 發表
Hi Mum 99

Negative people will carry on attacking other people regardlessly, and do more in covering their own mistakes.

Have any responsible parents out there saying' "S..t' word to their child? ...

OMG. You really cannot read. I said I do not care a shit how much who and who earn. And you called that swearing at others?

If you care to reply to what I said, reply to what I said.

Don't just stay positive, stay focused.

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作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-11 12:02

BETTER positive thinking/attitude stuff:

http://www.successconsciousness.com/index_000009.htm
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/positive-thinking/SR00009
http://thinkexist.com/quotations/positive_thinking/
http://www.marin.cc.ca.us/~don/study/2positive.html

For those who prefer images than words, watch these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fd_SKpnmKYQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxE_3pAmbTA
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5586766935503696078

作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-11 13:25

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作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-11 13:38

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作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-11 13:54

THANKFUL - you were too quick in your typing and I am sure you meant near death experience (4) Regarding the life and death experience of his boy........

一条毛 - I read through your input with interest. It is an ordinary story but you wrote with sense and facts and as an ordinary reader, that is what I wanted to read. To you, SIS is the best, yes? Why not ESF then, as civil servants your fees are less, yes? If you dont mind sharing, that is.

Cheers.

作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-11 15:08

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作者: Mighty 時間: 08-7-11 15:19

I am sure you said it without any bad intentions. But you know what people are like here.... they just pick up one word from the whole context and want to bite you down with that. Like someone was trying so hard to accuse somebody on using the word "shit". To me, that was absolutely fine in that context. Like we sometimes say "what the hell are you doing?!". You dont mean to curse that person to go to hell, it is very colloquial and just a way of emphasizing your astonishment. Anyway, people need to pay if they want to learn colloquial Englsih unless they find someone 'do it for free'.

Cheers.

作者: iamfine 時間: 08-7-11 16:12

I have been lingering with a strong feeling that I know Fate. He always talks like someone I know. Who is that guy who always talks like that?

I walked past a newspapers stall just now and spotted Financial Times. YES, MARTIN LUKES' LIFE COACH IN WHO MOVED MY BLACKBERRY COLUMN IN FINANCIAL TIMES!

作者: thankful 時間: 08-7-11 16:42

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