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作者: KOKOMAN    時間: 08-6-19 13:25     標題: 有冇人知中學部近年會考成績

有冇人知中學部近年會考成績?
聽說跌了很多,連一般區內英中也好過它?
作者: Tatama123    時間: 08-6-19 16:13     標題: 唔係啩 ! 中學部唔係Band One 中學咩!

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作者: Tatama123    時間: 08-6-19 16:13     標題: 唔係啩 ! 中學部唔係Band One 中學咩!

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作者: andrewpapa    時間: 08-6-19 17:16

haha, every year, you will hear the same thing over and over again.   

what is the base of comparison? no 10A
Hahaha, never la, coz they rarely let student to take 10 HKCEE exam

students with As in HKCEE exam, a lot wor

As an old boy, i will say, hear it from left ear and let it flow to right ear la.

this comment also always goes to other school.
作者: Teresa    時間: 08-6-19 22:37

Not only SPC, but also King's College.  People said that their overall HKCE results are deteriorating.

But I don't worry too much about it, I trust that SPC is good enough to train their students up to meet the demands of the society.
作者: HuiTung    時間: 08-6-20 17:05

原文章由 Teresa 於 08-6-19 22:37 發表

But I don't worry too much about it, I trust that SPC is good enough to train their students up  ...


I have the same thinking, too.
作者: avislai    時間: 08-10-6 13:30

I've also heard that primary boy's schools are good but their secondary schools are not, (e.g in net 11).  I wonder if it is related to the drive of students.  In primary school, if the drive is from parent and the student could not find the real interest in studying, then in secondary school, when the boys reach the rebellious age and the parents could not push them anymore, the academic result would drop a lot.  This is one of the big question that puzzled me and I still wonder what type of school is suitable for my 2 boys.

作者: JMC    時間: 08-11-20 13:58

小兒是聖保羅書院高中生,就我所知學校不會鼓勵同學會考報考超過八科,只有極小部份同學會因應自己的需要加報科目,所以9或10A的確少見,聽講最近有7A.
以我所知及所見,由聖保羅書院小學升中一至今,不少學生都已出國留學,而且多數是英國不錯的學校,當然也有美國及澳洲等.這絕對是升學上的策略及學生的家庭背景關係,與學校質素無關.相反學校還不時提供講座,協助及鼓勵合適的同學出國,令我意外的是這些學生往往是品學出眾的.就好像最近學校邀請兩位舊生回校出席升學講座,一位現就讀劍橋大學,另一位現就讀牛津大學,他們與學弟分享的不是在香港會考有多少個A,而是他們在高中時放棄香港會考,選擇到英國考GCSE,當然他們的成績是非常優秀.中間牽涉的策略不在此詳述,想說的是欣賞學校以學生為本,對學生的成就有遠見.學校歷年來出了不少政及商界的要人,但他們多較低調,可能是校風關係吧.另外,我知到香港大學醫學系向來有不少是聖保羅書院畢業生,走進瑪麗醫院亦不難找到在聖保羅書院畢業的醫生.
我和一般聖保羅家長一樣比較低調,但看到外面對學校的看法實在想表達一點意見.學生懂得批判及對社會承擔,對學校感自豪但謙虛,極強的英文基礎有助環球發展,懂得自己學習,在充滿空間及機會的環境中成長.看著兒子在聖保羅書院的成長,對我來說它就是最好的中學.
作者: JMC    時間: 08-11-20 13:58

小兒是聖保羅書院高中生,就我所知學校不會鼓勵同學會考報考超過八科,只有極小部份同學會因應自己的需要加報科目,所以9或10A的確少見,聽講最近有7A.
以我所知及所見,由聖保羅書院小學升中一至今,不少學生都已出國留學,而且多數是英國不錯的學校,當然也有美國及澳洲等.這絕對是升學上的策略及學生的家庭背景關係,與學校質素無關.相反學校還不時提供講座,協助及鼓勵合適的同學出國,令我意外的是這些學生往往是品學出眾的.就好像最近學校邀請兩位舊生回校出席升學講座,一位現就讀劍橋大學,另一位現就讀牛津大學,他們與學弟分享的不是在香港會考有多少個A,而是他們在高中時放棄香港會考,選擇到英國考GCSE,當然他們的成績是非常優秀.中間牽涉的策略不在此詳述,想說的是欣賞學校以學生為本,對學生的成就有遠見.學校歷年來出了不少政及商界的要人,但他們多較低調,可能是校風關係吧.另外,我知到香港大學醫學系向來有不少是聖保羅書院畢業生,走進瑪麗醫院亦不難找到在聖保羅書院畢業的醫生.
我和一般聖保羅家長一樣比較低調,但看到外面對學校的看法實在想表達一點意見.學生懂得批判及對社會承擔,對學校感自豪但謙虛,極強的英文基礎有助環球發展,懂得自己學習,在充滿空間及機會的環境中成長.看著兒子在聖保羅書院的成長,對我來說它就是最好的中學.
作者: HuiTung    時間: 08-11-20 16:54

JMC,

Thank you for your sharing.  That's very encouraging.

我先生說現任中大文學院院長也是Paul boy, 對不對?
作者: namanyi    時間: 08-11-20 23:04

JMC
Thank you for your sharing.

請問聖保羅書院校風如何?
作者: JMC    時間: 08-11-21 14:09

聖保羅書院不論中小學都擁有優良校風.
以我的所見所聞都是一般青少年的"小頑皮",最重要是問題發生後校方都會即時主動處理,我個人認為學校在這方面的技巧成熟和有效.而所知的效頑皮學生部份都已轉校.
不過個人覺得應該給年青人機會,今天看似大錯,其實又只不過是人生其中的一件錯事,是污點或是轉捩點,就看成年人的處理方法.
至於聖保羅書院有名氣的畢業生實在不少,不能在這盡錄.要說的是學校會請一些在各行各業有成就的畢業生回校演說和分享,他們的名字你可能從未聽過,但他們在行業,社會及個人成就同樣非常出色.感覺比那些名畢業生更真實.
所以回到現實是傳統名校好,地區10A英中好....教導孩子投入學校生活,協助他善用學校資源,家長與學校和其他家長保持溝通,在中學階段家長要學會放手,讓孩子自學,信任老師和學校,孩子看到你的正面態度,尊重他的生活圈子,才可以快樂地學習,明白學習是終生的,學習不只限於學科,良好學習態度孩子一生受惠.多少A,能否拔尖就當學習過程中的"花紅"吧.
作者: hogwarts    時間: 08-11-21 20:32

Hi JMC,

多謝你的分享,非常期待小兒明年开始在SPC的中學生活。
作者: hogwarts    時間: 08-12-6 04:49

In this year's Wayfarer, 校刋, it reported how many students can secure a place in local insitutions.  The numbers are consistent with 20 to HKU, 17 to HKCU and 7 to HKUST.   Last year, they were 21 to HKU, 14 to HKCU and 7 to HKUST.

It is the SPC's style in their academic results reporting and up to this moment, the Principal would like to spend more pages to describe their students' achievements in other areas, such as they are the champion of HKJSSE.  May be, it is a footnote of the school's enthusiasm in the so-called whole person development, which I am fine with.

JC6 parents are invited to a visit to the SPC together with a sharing session with some SPC's parents in the evening on 12 Dec.  Hope to find out more about the school there and what those parents are thinking of the school.

[ 本帖最後由 hogwarts 於 08-12-6 09:44 編輯 ]
作者: sogor    時間: 10-9-6 13:53

咁即係點呀?有冇數據?
作者: funnyguy    時間: 10-9-11 12:39

原帖由 KOKOMAN 於 08-6-19 13:25 發表
有冇人知中學部近年會考成績?
聽說跌了很多,連一般區內英中也好過它?



Shown in P.27 of the link

http://www.spc.edu.hk/docs/news_from_spc_10.pdf
作者: louiskkchan    時間: 10-9-14 10:30

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作者: sunnygirl    時間: 10-9-17 10:49

跌~可能已經唔係近年既事?因為我之前聽朋友講佢有兩個男性朋友十年前讀paul boy既會考成績只有單位數,我朋友仲話唔單止佢呢兩個朋友係咁既成績,而係佢地個班既同學都只係得單位數。
作者: andrewpapa    時間: 10-9-17 14:49

drop is the standard of the students, not the school.  Single digit of HKCEE is not only happened in last 10 years, It happens almost every year.  Many old boy who has bad score should know why they had such a bad result in before.

And be frank, the single digit HKCEE result also happened in other famous school, not only SPC, right.  So what makes the University result so bad this year?  

I also have no clue.  if the number drop so sharp, it must be some common issue, first year of DSS may be an issue.  whoelse can share.

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作者: andrewpapa    時間: 10-9-17 15:35

I don't think is a good idea, also, one year bad result can overcome other years of good results?

Will it be too over-reacted?

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作者: hogwarts    時間: 10-9-18 08:28

It is no doubt that Yr 08-09 was not a fruitful year for SPC's academic results.  It could be partly blamed to the not well prepared changes from subsidized school to DSS dating back to 2003.  However, the Yr 09-10 results did improve a lot.  Also, it is an on-going challenge to the school in how to balance the parent's demand of  good academic results & development of the boys' mind and body.  

As a parent of student in the current F2 year, I am content with what the school is offering and I have no reservation to recommend the school.

I would suggest to parents taking sometime to read the Principal's messages, especially the one about marks in early Sept.
作者: funnyguy    時間: 10-10-3 17:41

原帖由 hogwarts 於 10-9-18 08:28 發表
It is no doubt that Yr 08-09 was not a fruitful year for SPC's academic results.  It could be partly blamed to the not well prepared changes from subsidized school to DSS dating back to 2003.  However ...


better tommorrow
作者: jeremyphlam    時間: 10-10-18 14:51

原帖由 KOKOMAN 於 08-6-19 13:25 發表
有冇人知中學部近年會考成績?
聽說跌了很多,連一般區內英中也好過它?


Extracted from
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2230797&extra=page%3D1&page=1


中西區分析

中西區有9間官津學校, 唔係band1英中就係band3中中. 男校英中以英皇同聖若瑟較top, 上年聖若瑟14分有75.92%而英皇就67%. 高主教比聖類斯較好, 前者屬band1中(上年14分有61.45%), 後者屬band2頭(最後一次公佈14分有42.9%). 女校英中以英華同聖士提反較top, 聖士提反上年14分有79.1%, 而英華就冇資料. 但係英華係中西區女生首選, 相信命運同英皇差不多, 會考14分估計都係6x%, 聖嘉勒屬band1尾.

第一階段中六收生, 聖嘉勒中五約157人, 中六有84個位, 結果有5個位剩, 即是有79人夠14分(如果全部原校升讀), 佔50.32%. 而英皇中五約192人, 中六有120個位, 結果有20個位剩, 如果全部人原校升讀, 就有100人夠14分, 佔52.08%. 但係我相信有唔少英皇仔走咗去第二間讀. 整體14分既比例應該同上年差唔多, 都係6x%咁上下. 不過我地唔可以只睇14分既比例, 優良數目都好重要.

Band3中中有2間, 聖士提反堂同梁銶琚. 如果以所剩學位推算. 聖士提反堂14分佔13.13%而梁銶琚佔15%. 兩者似乎唔係差好遠, 但梁銶琚比聖士提反堂早收夠人, 相比之下梁銶琚比聖士提反堂好少少. 如果以我標準去評估, 呢兩間屬band3中.

中西區仲有兩間抽獎直資, 即係聖保羅書院同香港聖瑪加利女書院. 如果根餘額推算, 前者有13個位剩, 14分就佔46.39%, 不過睇番上年佢既學校報告, 有94.4%既中六位係原校升讀, 即大約58%, 所以佢係差過高主教, 但係都好過聖類斯好多. 至於聖瑪加利, 就有20個位剩, 14分推算係25%, 屬band2尾. 當然選學校(尤其是band2尾至band3), 校風都好緊要, 要自己去實地理解, 呢o的工夫唔慳得.

歸納上面既分析, 下面就係中西區學校既排位.

band1頭
聖士提反女子中學 (上年6科14分佔79.1%)
聖若瑟英文書院 (上年6科14分佔75.92%)

band1中
英皇書院 (上年6科14分佔67%)
英華女學校
高主教書院 (上年6科14分佔61.45%)

band1尾
聖保羅書院  (推算上年6科14分約佔58%, 今年46.39%)
聖嘉勒女書院 (推算今年6科14分佔50.32%)

band2頭
聖類斯中學 (最後一次公佈6科14分佔42.9%)

band2尾
香港聖瑪加利女書院 (推算今年6科14分佔25%)

band3中
樂善堂梁銶琚書院 (推算今年6科14分佔15%)
聖士提反堂中學 (推算今年6科14分佔13.13%)
作者: andrewpapa    時間: 10-10-20 01:25

Jeremyphlam,

thank you for posting the finding from other thread, but i need to point out to you that secondary school has no banding catergory under EDB.  The banding system is for the P6 student to join the central allocation.  Official document per attached.

http://www.edb.gov.hk/FileManage ... ents_100420_eng.pdf

If you want to point out the disappointed result of the secondary school, please only use the school report P24 to 27.  thanks

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作者: DrBabyAlex    時間: 10-10-26 11:11

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作者: hogwarts    時間: 10-10-29 00:11

09 考試成绩不理想是不争的事实,但做了聖保羅7年多的家長,那一年不理想的成绩,正好是被用来不断提醒孩子要不懈的努力外,还要注意竞争之激烈与社会上不同價值覌间的互动。

虽如 DrBabyAlex 所言,香港不少 doctors 都是 Paul 仔,但我都有遇过 Paul 仔的士大佬 (但言谈中,他可能是车主),大嘆当年读书不夠努力,今日要开车搵食。說到底有好环境、好師资,还要加上自己的努力才成。

其实本打算不再为此题目多言的了,但今天在 MTR 睇見一个 Hong Kong Museum of Coastal Defence 有关 British Army Aid Group 的专题展出之 poster後, 禁不住要写上兩句。

一如其他有長遠历史的传统学校,SPC 出了不少名人,在 wikipedia 的 SPC entry 中不乏在近代历史留名的风流人物。但今天 MTR 的 poster,卻令我想起一个,在我第一次上 SPC website 时,就使我有无名感动的人物,他的名字叫黄樹培 Wong Shiu Pun,他没有被放上 wikipedia 的龙虎榜,但你可以在 Stanley Military Cemetery Roll of Honour 上找到他的名字,在二次大战时,他因为身为 British Army Aid Group 的一员,被日本侵略军處决。如果你的孩子在中五时,能在宗教科名列第一,孩子就会拿到以他命名的奖学金。若我是基督徒,這可以是一個很好的理由要選擇 SPC。

作为非基督徒我认为孩子虽要榜样,不一定 10A 才是好榜样,但 Wong Shiu Pun 就是一个不简单的好榜樣。

Roll of Honour 上的简单記錄:


WONG, Volunteer, SHIU PUN PRESTON, British Army Aid Group. 29th October 1943. (Served as WONG SHIU PUN). Husband of Phillis Grace Wong, of Hong Kong. Sp. Mem. 1. E. Coll. grave 1.

有点長氣与离题,大家見笑了。

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作者: tiksilong    時間: 11-1-21 22:47

I am an old boy from St. Paul's College. I would say traditionally the academic results were good not because of the teachers, but the environment and the quality of the student. During my time with SPC, SPC attracted very high quality student admitted into its secondary school, and the standard of the SPC Primary School student were very high.

During my time, the entrance rate to universities from F7 was very high, however there were still some student who scored badly during HKCEE (I know a few classmates who got 8 U).

I also heard a lot of people saying the quality of SPC has dropped recently but I am surprising to see only around 50% of student can get 14 or higher in HKCEE.

But I still have faith into SPC as my son was failed to get into SPC Primary School last year even though I am an old boy, which could mean that they are still very careful in selecting student. My son finally ended-up in another primary school but I am still planning to give my son a try to get into P2.

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作者: JNmimi    時間: 11-7-26 09:53

hogwarts & tiksilong:  

感謝你們的分享, 讓我對 SPC 增添了解, 加強了信心!
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