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作者: jor_mankiu 時間: 08-6-6 23:32 標題: Glenn Doman的crawling track同neck support

睇咗Glenn Doman本How Smart is your bab同how to teach your baby to be physically superb, 我想整番個crawling track同neck support, 我知KinxerX 有得賣, 但成二千幾蚊, 究竟有無地方可以按照書的方法做??

作者: st 時間: 08-6-6 23:50

neck support must DIY, not available to sell in IAHP too, as it is tailor made for yr kid.

crawling track, u can order directly from IAHP, u can give them call too.

the one selling from kinxxx is same as the one in IAHP. so u can compare price from IAHP, i belive i cheaper !!.

as yr bb is so young, worth to buy ah!!!

st

原文章由 jor_mankiu 於 08-6-6 23:32 發表
睇咗Glenn Doman本How Smart is your bab同how to teach your baby to be physically superb, 我想整番個crawling track同neck support, 我知KinxerX 有得賣, 但成二千幾蚊, 究竟有無地方可以按照書的方法做?? ...

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-6-7 01:19

我的囝囝由於已30磅很重了, iahp所賣的crawling track 己不合用, 於是我們到旺角賣木的地方買3塊已貼了防火膠板的木板回來自已做, 一塊30x96吋, 另外兩塊9x96吋, 用萬能角鐵做架可較高低, 初時滑梯斜些, 到bb爬得快些了就將高度降低些,
以前在屯門醫院做物理治療時,治療師成日都叫要教bb爬, 但他們的方法似乎沒甚麼效, 做了成年都不懂爬, 但這功具就好有用了, 我小朋友開始了3星期已"開始懂"crawling了, 初時只是懂用手去推動身體, 現在開始郁少少用埋對腳去配合, 但最難的地方就是要想盡方法去吸引他向前, 他身體重現在才學爬都辛苦些, 你小朋友仍輕些, 仍細就好好把握機會了. 努力呀

原文章由 jor_mankiu 於 08-6-6 23:32 發表
睇咗Glenn Doman本How Smart is your bab同how to teach your baby to be physically superb, 我想整番個crawling track同neck support, 我知KinxerX 有得賣, 但成二千幾蚊, 究竟有無地方可以按照書的方法做?? ...

作者: st 時間: 08-6-7 17:37

jen cheng, have u read the book ? english version or chinese? u need to starts patterning, patterning can teach yr son crawling and creeping.

I knew a boy cannot crawl and creep. i buy her mother the chinese version book ( her mum read chinese only), then she get the maid , the elder girl and herself do patterning for her son. then her son walk independently in 1 year !

so, u can starts do patterning first.

the way u do crwaling track is excellent, let me try to do for my 6 mth boy. also, can u take a pic and email me too?
[email protected]
many thanks
st

[ 本文章最後由 st 於 08-6-7 17:38 編輯 ]

作者: jor_mankiu 時間: 08-6-7 22:54

jencheng, I also asked someone from another forum who made a crawling track. He asked a curtain shop in Central to make it for him but he already forgot what curtain shop he ordered from. But I doubt if any curtain shop would be willing to make one!!

I'll check with IAPH next week to see how much it cost to ship over. The item costs US$260 on IAPH website.

作者: jor_mankiu 時間: 08-6-7 23:25

also, does anytone know where can I buy the foam rubber for making the neck support?

作者: st 時間: 08-6-8 09:43

actually, do think u can order from the furniture shop? those shop sell talor made furniture.

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-6-8 10:22

GD baby also have the infant crawling track for sales. The shipping cost from Singapore to HK should be much less than from USA.
http://www.gdbaby.com.sg/Announcements.aspx

剛剛想到在海馬做張特硬的床玉做crawling track 得唔得呢, 你bb仍輕呢

原文章由 jor_mankiu 於 08-6-7 23:25 發表
also, does anytone know where can I buy the foam rubber for making the neck support?

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-6-8 11:41

check email

原文章由 st 於 08-6-7 17:37 發表
jen cheng, have u read the book ? english version or chinese? u need to starts patterning, patterning can teach yr son crawling and creeping.

I knew a boy cannot crawl and creep. i buy her mother the ...

作者: jor_mankiu 時間: 08-6-8 23:53

st & jencheng

Thanks for the suggestion. Let me check the Singapore GD seller. I think I would just go for ordering from either US/Singapore. Will see how much the shipping costs.

作者: Aidenmom 時間: 08-6-11 22:32 標題: neck support

Hi all,
我囝囝都係on iahp program, neck support 裡面條海綿好難買, 我就用左兩條毛巾卷住代替, 效果近似iahp果條, 不妨試下

作者: ck2005ml 時間: 08-7-25 10:55

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作者: catca 時間: 08-7-29 11:56

hey, 好耐無上bk, 啱啱先見到呢個topic. 我都啱啱自製左條crawling track比我既唐氏寶寶, 全部材料係深水埗買, 條track都ok好樣架。去呢度睇睇吖：
http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/rebleung/article?mid=5883&prev=5926&next=5844

你地mention既patterning係乜黎架？係咪書上面講既cross-pattern呀？咁係點做架？請指教。

作者: st 時間: 08-7-30 14:42

cata, u need to read the book, "what to do about yr brain injured child" and u know what is patterning. QUICK!! help yr little janet , she is beautiful !

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-3 22:42

找到以下關於Patterning的資料, 是否就是這個做法？
http://www.iahp.org/Patter.64+M54a708de802.0.html
每次找三個人一起做patterning有點麻煩，但一個人做又有點困難，請問你們在家裡是如何做patterning的？

原文章由 st 於 08-7-30 14:42 發表
cata, u need to read the book, "what to do about yr brain injured child" and u know what is patterning. QUICK!! help yr little janet , she is beautiful !

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-8-4 12:16

Hi Catca,

絕對同意st說法, 你要看 what to do with your brain injured child, 我也看了你的video, 你要將條crawling track 斜放, 斜度是你放bb上去佢係唔會郁的,,但當佢郁動手腳就會滑下來, 不要幫她, 要讓她自己去摸索, 今次我去新加坡上了what to do with your brain injured child 的course, 見到個唐氏小朋友,7歲,不知幾叻,physically suberb, intellectually 一樣, 可以fast reading, 揭一頁都已經看完一頁, 只要給她機會,多方面的stimulation.. must read the book

原文章由 catca 於 08-7-29 11:56 發表
hey, 好耐無上bk, 啱啱先見到呢個topic. 我都啱啱自製左條crawling track比我既唐氏寶寶, 全部材料係深水埗買, 條track都ok好樣架。去呢度睇睇吖：
http://hk.myblog.yahoo.com/rebleung/article?mid=5883&prev=5926&n ...

作者: st 時間: 08-8-4 15:32

jencheng,

u come back from singapore..... how is it? I am doing IAHP program with my girl . now...

St

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-8-4 16:18

st,

I am planning to do the IAHP too. My boy learned creeping immeiately with the incline floor & just learn creeping 2 weeks ago. I need to let him creep more more more. The goal is 1600 ft/day in 6 month. Call you ok?

原文章由 st 於 08-8-4 15:32 發表
jencheng,

u come back from singapore..... how is it? I am doing IAHP program with my girl . now...

St

作者: st 時間: 08-8-4 20:38

jenchan,
so glad to hear yr good news, check pm.

u must be excited after took the WTD course.

st

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-5 18:41

我都有'long'高條track, but maybe still not high enough? I'll try again. Thanks. Did you do patterning with your son?

原文章由 jencheng 於 08-8-4 12:16 發表
Hi Catca,

絕對同意st說法, 你要看 what to do with your brain injured child, 我也看了你的video, 你要將條crawling track 斜放, 斜度是你放bb上去佢係唔會郁的,,但當佢郁動手腳就會滑下來, 不要幫她, 要讓她自己 ...

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-8-6 18:43 標題: 回覆 #1 catca 的文章

yes, I have but stopped for while, I need to do it again but in a different pattern as my son can creep now. You need to incline the track at the slope that when she move her legs & arms , she can move forward. check email

作者: cecichow 時間: 08-8-6 23:08

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作者: jor_mankiu 時間: 08-8-6 23:12

Hi CK

I still haven't decided to make/buy the crawling track or not. My baby is now 8 mths (corrected age 6 mths), learnt to roll over from back to front and can keep turning to his left (like a clock) on his tummy. His left hand is rather weak and that's why he couldn't roll to his right and turn right. but other than that he is progressing rather well this week. So I'll wait another few weeks to see if his needs extra aids for his development.

原文章由 ck2005ml 於 08-7-25 10:55 發表
jor_mankiu

Hey, I want to buy crawing track and neck support. Could tell me more infomation, pls.? May be we can share the delivering cost.

CK

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-7 07:20

尋日試左再'long'高d，it worked!!!! Baby Janet was crawling on the track!! She used her arms to move herself forward. Think she'll be doing even better if I give her more chance to practice. Many thanks.
Wow, you bb is creeping, COOL!

原文章由 jencheng 於 08-8-6 18:43 發表
yes, I have but stopped for while, I need to do it again but in a different pattern as my son can creep now. You need to incline the track at the slope that when she move her legs & arms , she can mo ...

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-7 17:03

st, jencheng
今日第2日用啱既方法比bb係條track度爬，佢爬得唔錯呀！(雖然好快就'lui'左係度......) 我仲影埋video比你地睇，真係好開心呀！
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpZB7mcP2DA

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-8-7 18:20

恭喜, 小janet終於可crawling 了,努力!!!, 記著給她crawl多些

原文章由 catca 於 08-8-7 17:03 發表
st, jencheng
今日第2日用啱既方法比bb係條track度爬，佢爬得唔錯呀！(雖然好快就'lui'左係度......) 我仲影埋video比你地睇，真係好開心呀！
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpZB7mcP2DA ...

作者: gongonma 時間: 08-8-7 23:36

我星期三開始同仔一齊 crawling & creeping, 不過真系好辛苦, 我仔大啦成100磅, 我唔洗講仲重啦! 第一日我crawling o左約24M ~ elbow就(損)了, creeping o左100M兩個knee都紅得很,仲痛添! 我肥仔就 crawling 24M, creeping 160M, 不過佢就無事. 但原來很辛苦的, 要達標還很遠路! 不過會努力!
星期四,今天就再開始返 flash card 啦! 仲有 masking 未找醫生, jenny 開始未? 我同Kitty (singapore那太太) 跟 Janet Doman 拍了照, 明天e比你呀!
st 收到做的pm, 明天打比你. ** 請原諒那麼遲才覆, 因真的很少在這, 因我大少已11歲, 不baby了!

作者: gongonma 時間: 08-8-7 23:43

呀! 多事一點, 小 Janet 條 track 似乎太窄, 應該闊的, 可以比雙手像蟹一樣橫放, 那腳仔才可向前. 腳仔向前爬就要多的位先爬得到. 若不, 就只有手有限活動, 腳仔只可直去, 就無pattern啦!
今晚我再找功課再看清楚!

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-8 01:55

我是按書(Physically superb)上的instructions做的嘛..... 哎呀, 怎麼沒有說bb大一點得做闊一點呢？......

原文章由 gongonma 於 08-8-7 23:43 發表
呀! 多事一點, 小 Janet 條 track 似乎太窄, 應該闊的, 可以比雙手像蟹一樣橫放, 那腳仔才可向前. 腳仔向前爬就要多的位先爬得到. 若不, 就只有手有限活動, 腳仔只可直去, 就無pattern啦!
今晚我再找功課再看清楚! ...

作者: st 時間: 08-8-8 14:58

catca, the crawling track need bigger, so that her legs can move!

作者: st 時間: 08-8-8 15:01

also, u need to put her on the track all time, and calculate how much she crawl per day, and let her sleep face down...... she will crawl when sleep. trust me, my little bb boy crawl when sleep.

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-8-9 00:39

仲未搵到醫生呀,問過兩個醫生都reject咗..囝囝初部達標今天creep咗400m 呀,但唔肯做patterning, 你要帶護膝同埋護手elbow啊, 回來便病了兩天,幸好8號風球可睡一日一夜, 還未睇notes呢, 得閒call我

原文章由 gongonma 於 08-8-7 23:36 發表
我星期三開始同仔一齊 crawling & creeping, 不過真系好辛苦, 我仔大啦成100磅, 我唔洗講仲重啦! 第一日我crawling o左約24M ~ elbow就(損)了, creeping o左100M兩個knee都紅得很,仲痛添! 我肥仔就 crawling 24M, c ...

作者: Aidenmom 時間: 08-8-9 00:59

如果你地邊位需要neck support可以聯絡我,
我囝囝已唔需要再用, 佢已經2.5 yrs, 改做其他balance activities program, 條neck support仲好新, 如果唔嫌棄, 可pm我!
各位加油啊!!

作者: st 時間: 08-8-9 11:41

catca,

u better get a book name: How smart is yr bb " by Janet doman, this book will show u how to train yr bb and have many pics as demonstration.

st

作者: gongonma 時間: 08-8-9 16:48

Check 過 notice 闊度應該 "elbow to elbow".
also as told by st, you should place the baby in the track all day long.

原文章由 catca 於 08-8-8 01:55 發表
我是按書(Physically superb)上的instructions做的嘛..... 哎呀, 怎麼沒有說bb大一點得做闊一點呢？......

作者: st 時間: 08-8-10 00:53

also, catca, u need to do chessboard for janet,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IKNOY7Bkvo&feature=related

have a look this sample

[ 本文章最後由 st 於 08-8-10 00:59 編輯 ]

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-10 08:56

Thanks st, I'll get a copy of 'How smart is your bb' soon. I've watched this video you posted but can you explain a bit what's the use of this chessboard?

原文章由 st 於 08-8-10 00:53 發表
also, catca, u need to do chessboard for janet,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IKNOY7Bkvo&feature=related

have a look this sample

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-10 08:58

Thanks gongonma, if this is the case, the track should be the right size for Janet. I'll try my best to place her there for as long as possible but since the track is inclined, there's a bit of danger that she'll tumble over. I'll have to watch her when i place her there.:;pppp:

原文章由 gongonma 於 08-8-9 16:48 發表
Check 過 notice 闊度應該 "elbow to elbow".
also as told by st, you should place the baby in the track all day long.

作者: st 時間: 08-8-10 15:20

catus, but janet on the ground, so that she can put herself freely!

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-13 00:27

各位靚媽咪：
Janet尋日係條track度爬左16次，不過今日成日出左街，keep唔到~~試過平地佢仲未爬到，仍然要incline。爬既時候，佢仲係用手唔用腳，成隻海獅咁....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHdJoeaMnE
根據Doman本書講，佢而家係用homologous的pattern來移動，這是不是他們最初喜愛用的爬行方法呢？如何可以令佢用多d腳力呢？請賜教。

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-8-13 09:45

我個仔crawling 的時候都係好似janet咁, 用手不用腳, 後來當他可以在平地上crawl的時候就將他喜愛的物件放在他左或右邊,當他要左或右crawl時就一定要用起碼一隻腳才可另自己身體轉向,叫做有些少幫助啦...
一天16次好似唔多夠喎, 我囝囝晚上才回家玩滑梯的,我進洗手間洗澡,出來時工人同我說已爬了60多次了, janet 再要crawl多些多些呀

原文章由 catca 於 08-8-13 00:27 發表
各位靚媽咪：
Janet尋日係條track度爬左16次，不過今日成日出左街，keep唔到~~試過平地佢仲未爬到，仍然要incline。爬既時候，佢仲係用手唔用腳，成隻海獅咁....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHdJoeaMnE
根據Doman本書講，佢 ...

作者: someoneelse 時間: 08-8-13 10:18

唔好介意....睇過你video....我覺得你囡囡係唔知道要用腳呢....

我囝當時(發展遲緩)學爬都有呢個問題...我地要佢一路爬既時候，一路推佢隻腳 (要配合佢手部動作)...一下一下咁，慢慢令佢明白如果郁埋腳既話，會爬得快d、大步d同輕鬆d.....你試試呀....

我囝最後響成歲先識爬呢！

原文章由 catca 於 08-8-13 00:27 發表
各位靚媽咪：
Janet尋日係條track度爬左16次，不過今日成日出左街，keep唔到~~試過平地佢仲未爬到，仍然要incline。爬既時候，佢仲係用手唔用腳，成隻海獅咁....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOHdJoeaMnE
根據Doman本書講，佢 ...

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-13 13:35

今朝上物理治療訓練，治療師把janet放在平地上爬，她自己爬到幾步呀！治療師說她有用腳趾力幫架！好開心她有進展！我會繼續努力，盡量比佢爬多d！謝！

原文章由 jencheng 於 08-8-13 09:45 發表
我個仔crawling 的時候都係好似janet咁, 用手不用腳, 後來當他可以在平地上crawl的時候就將他喜愛的物件放在他左或右邊,當他要左或右crawl時就一定要用起碼一隻腳才可另自己身體轉向,叫做有些少幫助啦...
一天16次好 ...

作者: st 時間: 08-8-14 00:58

someoneelse.. thats why need to do patterning.

原文章由 someoneelse 於 08-8-13 10:18 發表
唔好介意....睇過你video....我覺得你囡囡係唔知道要用腳呢....

我囝當時(發展遲緩)學爬都有呢個問題...我地要佢一路爬既時候，一路推佢隻腳 (要配合佢手部動作)...一下一下咁，慢慢令佢明白如果郁埋腳既話，會爬得快d、 ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-8-23 23:15

我已經向商務ｏｒｄｅｒ左中文版　”ｗｈａｔ　ｔｏ　ｄｏｎ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｙｒ　ｂｒａｉｎ　ｉｎｊｕｒｅｄ　ｃｈｉｌｄ”，　但佢話要ｃｈｅｃｋ下先，　唔知有冇？　請問知唔知邊度有得買？　
我也想自已做ｃｒａｗｌｉｎｇ　ｔｒａｃｋ教我個女爬，　因為佢天生只有一隻眼仔　（但有好深的近視同散光），　可否話比我知點做同係邊度買材料？

作者: catca 時間: 08-8-24 00:17

hi slh
i ordered the book from here:
http://www.paddyfield.com/mainstore/searchbooks.php?q=What+to+Do+About+Your+Brain-Injured+Child&qtype=keywords&x=32&y=16
They offer good price.

Also, i bought all the materials needed for a crawling track from Sham Shui Po. U'll need:
6呎長木板
1吋厚海綿
人造皮
強力膠
Just stick everything together. Very easy!

原帖由 slh 於 08-8-23 23:15 發表
我已經向商務ｏｒｄｅｒ左中文版　”ｗｈａｔ　ｔｏ　ｄｏｎ　ａｂｏｕｔ　ｙｒ　ｂｒａｉｎ　ｉｎｊｕｒｅｄ　ｃｈｉｌｄ”，　但佢話要ｃｈｅｃｋ下先，　唔知有冇？　請問知唔知邊度有得買？　
我也想自已做ｃｒａｗｌｉｎｇ　ｔｒａｃｋ教我個女爬，　因為佢天生只有一隻眼仔　（但有好深的近視同散光），　可否話比我知點做同係邊度買材料？ ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-8-25 17:02

Hi~

你好~ 我上了你們提供的綱頁, 但只有英文版的"What to do of yr brian inject child", 找不到中文版? 有冇人買過中文版? 因為我d 英文痳痳地, 驚睇唔明~

作者: st 時間: 08-8-26 23:34

slh,

the book is out of stock in taiwan already.

go to this china site, register, then ask the owner to give u a copy, she will give u Free of charge.

http://www.domanmama.com/

Also, u should visit this site :
http://www.enyubaby.org/bbs/

this is the DOMAN unofficial china ctr, which teach china brain injured baby( or those cannot use english). u can fly to beijing to take training course. OR just call them to get advice for yr child, they can help yr child.

st

作者: christie_c 時間: 08-8-28 09:38 標題: Want to buy mat. 4 crawling

原帖由 catca 於 08-8-24 00:17 發表
hi slh
i ordered the book from here:
http://www.paddyfield.com/mainstore/searchbooks.php?q=What+to+Do+About+Your+Brain-Injured+Child&qtype=keywords&x=32&y=16
They offer good price.
Also, i bought ...

Also, i bought all the materials needed for a crawling track from Sham Shui Po. U'll need:
6呎長木板
1吋厚海綿
人造皮
強力膠
Just stick everything together. Very easy!

Dear Catca,

My son is now 1 year old. He has the problem in crawling na d his neck is also not strong enough. Pls tell me where to buy the materials above.

Thank you very much!

Christie

作者: catca 時間: 08-9-2 22:53

christie_c
sorry i forgot the exact name of the street, but it is right next to 楓樹街遊樂場. The whole street is full of 布行...you can find everything there.

原帖由 christie_c 於 08-8-28 09:38 發表

Also, i bought all the materials needed for a crawling track from Sham Shui Po. U'll need:
6呎長木板
1吋厚海綿
人造皮
強力膠
Just stick everything together. Very easy!

Dear Catca,

My son is now 1 y ...

作者: catca 時間: 08-9-2 23:05

hey friends
i've got news about janet again. she's started crawling on the floor just yesterday. we're so excited about this! she's used the crawling track for only less than a month! it has certainly speeded up her development, this is incredible!!!

作者: st 時間: 08-9-3 14:18

catca, so happy to see janet crawl on the floor, she is cross patten crawling!

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-9-3 22:57

janet好叻女呀,我見她都可以自已扶著東西站起來了,相信她很快可以creep了,加油, 家姐仔真係抵讚,

可為你分擔不少啊!

原帖由 st 於 08-9-3 14:18 發表
catca, so happy to see janet crawl on the floor, she is cross patten crawling!

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-4 00:04

catca,

小Janet真係好叨 wor~ 禁快就可以自己係地下爬, 唔洗用條crawling track!

我地今個星期已經整好條 crawling track, 最後都係在Mega Box 內的B&Q 買了3條木板自己做, 因為係海馬同傢私舖都話冇得做?? 今晚同呀女玩左3次, 但佢都係用手唔用腳??? 跟住重扭計要訓覺 .....

唔知你同小Janet 每天爬幾多次同爬左幾多日, 佢先自可以自己係地下爬?

作者: catca 時間: 08-9-4 10:33

slh
叻叻正式用crawling track到識爬真的不到1個月，但其實我們太懶，沒有好intensive地把叻叻放上去爬，而且也沒有恆心做patterning.我相信如果你intensive地去做,不出2星期就應該有成績,加油！

原帖由 slh 於 08-9-4 00:04 發表
catca,

小Janet真係好叨 wor~ 禁快就可以自己係地下爬, 唔洗用條crawling track!

我地今個星期已經整好條 crawling track, 最後都係在Mega Box 內的B&Q 買了3條木板自己做, 因為係海馬同傢私舖都話冇得做?? 今 ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-5 00:03

catca,

今日同呀女都係玩左一陣佢又扭計

~ 淨係用手爬左2次(冇用腳) 又唔制

! 已經破例請了兩啖珍寶珠比佢食, 但都發皮氣???? 成日同佢pa低練手力和腳力都發難渣, 每次去pt 都攪都喊到唔收聲

, 真係激死人.........

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-9-6 10:44

試吓用她喜歡的東西去引她,好像我囝囝,他喜歡我手機的歌,我便用手機去引他,聽完他爬幾吓我假裝比佢按手制又聽過, 他喜歡swing, 又會等佢爬完去swing 他,他好開心又將他放回incline floor上又再crawl. Try make it as a game. 總之她肯crawl都算, 唔好理佢用唔用腳先, 我個仔crawl的時候都只是用手,到他識creep就自然會用埋腳了. 加油..!!

原帖由 slh 於 08-9-5 00:03 發表
catca,

今日同呀女都係玩左一陣佢又扭計 ~ 淨係用手爬左2次(冇用腳) 又唔制 ! 已經破例請了兩啖珍寶珠比佢食, 但都發皮氣???? 成日同佢pa低練手力和腳力都發難渣, 每次去pt 都攪都喊到唔收聲 ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-8 23:24

st,

我上星期去你話個websit 登記及send 個email叫樓主幫手提供個副本比我, 今日佢地已經send 咗比我, 真係唔該晒

~

琴日同呀女做patterning, 佢又好似覺得幾好玩, 玩咗一陣重笑到收唔到聲, 點知今日同佢玩, 又唔肯, 重學人扮訓覺

, 激死人啦! 有冇人見過d BB 係賴成禁?

作者: catca 時間: 08-9-9 15:17

janet唔係好順攤果隻黎架，佢做patterning會勁喊，做crawling track兩三次就會攰，我每次同佢爬5回就要收手，隔一陣再黎過，我發覺佢早上一起身爬得最好。記得出盡法寶引佢.....

原帖由 slh 於 08-9-5 00:03 發表
catca,

今日同呀女都係玩左一陣佢又扭計 ~ 淨係用手爬左2次(冇用腳) 又唔制 ! 已經破例請了兩啖珍寶珠比佢食, 但都發皮氣???? 成日同佢pa低練手力和腳力都發難渣, 每次去pt 都攪都喊到唔收聲 ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-11 16:47

唔好話爬條Crawling track 同 patterning, 今日呀女連d平時做開個d 運動到唔肯做???

唔知係唔係因為呢幾日返咗早期訓練? 但係只不過返一粒鐘姐? 真係禁攰? 佢上完後都訓咗粒幾鐘晏覺...............

不過今日同佢上職業冶療, 姑娘話佢手腳都幾有力, 只不過唔識重心轉移, 只要比d 心機教, 應該好快識自己爬同行! 唔知係唔係真, 不過聽完後個人冇禁down, 好似中咗獎!!!

作者: ndw 時間: 08-9-12 16:09 標題: 请问书中有否讲自出世有抽筋的怎样教？

请问书中有否讲自出世有抽筋的怎样教？
Can anyone tell me if Glenn Doman's books mention anything about how to teach Seizures Disorder or Epilepsy,in born with brain forming abnormal kid to develope?
我囡囡自出世就成日训，醒的时间很短。后来先至知道她系因为常有不同形式的抽筋。一同佢職業冶療，物理冶療，佢就好似好累，好辛苦，玩左一陣佢又扭計，仲大喊添, 跟住重扭計要訓覺。又怕引起佢抽筋，无在继续个section. 就系0甘，混混过了两年半。现在连自己 sit 都唔制。
如果有讲，我会叫我老公buy his books and study it to help my 囡囡.
请指教。
ndw.

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-12 19:16

我都係剛剛開始睇, 唔知有冇你想要的資料....不過本書已經冇得賣! 你可以下面的websit 註冊, 跟住叫樓主提供個副本比你, 樓主好快就會send 條link 比你. 你可看看書中的內容是否有用~
http://www.domanmama.com/

書名: 如何幫助腦傷兒童成長

作者: catca 時間: 08-9-13 00:09

janet又係啱啱開始早期訓練, 佢都係返到屋企就倒頭大睡, 好似擔完泥咁~~~:;pppp:

原帖由 slh 於 08-9-11 16:47 發表
唔好話爬條Crawling track 同 patterning, 今日呀女連d平時做開個d 運動到唔肯做??? 唔知係唔係因為呢幾日返咗早期訓練? 但係只不過返一粒鐘姐? 真係禁攰? 佢上完後都訓咗粒幾鐘晏覺...............

不過 ...

作者: st 時間: 08-9-15 14:39

doman, helps many kid recover from Seizures Disorder. u better check the www.iahp.org

and email them, they can help, but u need to take their course.

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-16 14:49

st,

我有上過你提供的綱站看過, 但他們的program只在星加坡, 日本, 美國及歐洲的國家舉辦, 我本人的英文同國語都冇限.......上佢地個中文綱站又上極都上唔到........

不過其實我都有興趣知道他們training的內容, 你有冇上過? 上一個5天的course 要多少錢? 我只知道報名時每個人要比USD250.00的deposit.......

catca,

Janet在那裡上早期訓練同上咩堂? 我地在沙田上, 呀b因為整體上都發展遲緩, 要上ot, st, pt 同幼兒導師, 平均一個星期2堂, 遲d會加多堂的小組 (每月2次, 每次2粒鐘)~

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-17 00:16

唔記得話向你地報告:
尋日晨早同呀女爬(滑)條crawling track 兩次後, 放咗佢係地下 (冇鋪防滑毯個邊), 佢用手爬咗兩步去攞個紙巾盒, 我開心到幾乎哭咗出呢

,重立即打電話比老公tim!!!點知開心得太早, 之後 (尋日下午同今日晨早返工前)同佢再玩, 佢又淨用個肚腩係度轉

!
放工返到屋企, 佢又訓咗....真係激死人...

呀女越大越唔聽話, 有時同佢講嘢重好似聽唔到咁??? 叫佢叫人, 又唔啋人, 有時無情情又好high???? 重成日講1大堆BB 話, 真係好擔心佢有冇其他問題 (e.g. 過度活躍 or 專注力低).........係咪自己想多咗? 我都就黎比佢玩殘...

作者: catca 時間: 08-9-18 14:27

slh
janet goes to school in TKO. How old is your daughter? so happy to hear your good news! be patient, that's the beginning of it. she'll soon show you her mighty power!!

原帖由 slh 於 08-9-17 00:16 發表
唔記得話向你地報告:
尋日晨早同呀女爬(滑)條crawling track 兩次後, 放咗佢係地下 (冇鋪防滑毯個邊), 佢用手爬咗兩步去攞個紙巾盒, 我開心到幾乎哭咗出呢 ,重立即打電話比老公tim!!!點知開心得太早, 之後 ( ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-19 00:33

catca,

我個女成20個月

(下星期一就21個月啦) ! 因為天生只得一隻眼仔, 重係有好深的近視同散光tim, 醫生話係嚴重視障個隻...... 不過比初出世時評估已經好好多, 因為佢頭幾個月對光都冇反應, 這時眼科醫生話佢最多只可睇到光暗.....
但到了佢4個月時, 有日我地帶佢去出街食飯, 佢竟然望住d射燈笑, 我地先知佢睇到. 不過醫生話就算宜家睇到都可能只是影像, 好蒙~

唔知係咪咁, 影響佢的發展? (不過評估的醫生話佢delay的程度較多

~)

其實好像很多嘢都係整定... 好以我陀住佢時, 因為胎水少同胎細, 係c+同政府都照咗好幾次ultra sound,又做咗兩次結構性檢查, 都係話冇問題, check 唔到.....

重要係出咗世後, 我自己發現呀b隻眼污糟同有隻眼冇開, 佢地再同呀b check 先知眼睛有事....不過醫生講得啱,就算比你知到, 你會唔會因為呢個問題唔要個bb....而我地努力咗成兩年至有呀b, 我相信我地都會堅持要個bb...

作者: catca 時間: 08-9-19 12:53

加油！我地都有個大使命呀！你係full-time mum嗎？只有1個女兒？

原帖由 slh 於 08-9-19 00:33 發表
catca,

我個女成20個月(下星期一就21個月啦) ! 因為天生只得一隻眼仔, 重係有好深的近視同散光tim, 醫生話係嚴重視障個隻...... 不過比初出世時評估已經好好多, 因為佢頭幾個月對光都冇反應, 這時眼科醫生話 ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-21 00:38

catca,

我地係得呀女1個小朋友~ 原先都想生多個, 不過呀女又咁多事要跟, 又未知呀女d問題係唔係遺傳, 自己年紀又大.....想生都唔係咁易........

我係在職媽媽, 平日我地返咗工, 呀女係交比人湊, 放咗工 (7點半)先湊返婆婆屋企食完晚飯才返屋企(婆婆, 湊仔婆同我地都住得好近, 行路都只不過幾分鐘)~

所以只有返工前同放工後先至有時間同佢做運動, 不過湊佢個太太同婆婆都有同佢做, 但係只係做d 簡單的, 好以要佢係床仔行十分鐘, 要佢扶住床仔罰企同 pa 係地下咁~

作者: Aidenmom 時間: 08-9-22 23:31 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

WTD course 內容係本書的延續, 但係上course break期間, IAHP會有好多職員在場, 你可以問佢問題, 到上完個course, 你大概已經可以掌握到點樣自已幫小朋友設計program。
另外, 早幾個月我到日本revisit時, 聽講下年可能會在港開WTD course, 你可以send email去美國問一下。

作者: Aidenmom 時間: 08-9-22 23:36

Hi ndw,

書中沒有提及有關如何控制抽筋, 因為抽筋係比較複雜，必須比佢地見過你個小朋友, 所以你必須要先上WTD course (父母兩人都要上), 然後再約見佢地。

原帖由 ndw 於 08-9-12 16:09 發表
请问书中有否讲自出世有抽筋的怎样教？
Can anyone tell me if Glenn Doman's books mention anything about how to teach Seizures Disorder or Epilepsy,in born with brain forming abnormal kid to develope?
...

作者: slh 時間: 08-9-23 00:57

Hi Aidenmon,

你上次在日本上堂是否5days course? 學費大概多少? 是否兩公婆一齊上同洗唔洗帶呀b一齊上? 唔好意思, 1次問你這麼多問題!

作者: ndw 時間: 08-9-23 07:15 標題: Thank you very much

Dear st, slh, catca, Aidenmon...
Thank you very much for all of your help in providing information and support in positive thinking.
You all are superb parents. 佩服。

I saw there are more than one book by Glenn Doman from IAHP.org web site.  "How Smart Your Child Is", "How to Help Your Kid be Physically Superb" and "How to tread your Brain Injured Child, cerebral palsy..."... Which book you guys always refer to?
I asked my husband to order the Brain Injured one online first.  That seems to fit my 2nd daughter's first need since she has inborn Polymicrogyria in her right Brian and Seizure Disorder.
I am a full time working Mom while my husband is a full time stay home Dad of 3 daughters.  I hope after my husband read the book and found out it is working.  So he may plan to further follow the Doman's method.

Dear slh
加油啊！唔好放弃阿女能有一日fully develope 的希望。我好明白你当妈的心路历程。我阿女也有先天性的缺陷。我仲bad la,等到阿女成10各月大时先因为她大抽筋送入医院择番条命先知道阿女有先天性的缺陷。你阿女可能只是眼睛需要修理好，所有其他的development delay 都是因为视力上的拖延。一边在家用Glenn Doman Method, 在外用 OT, PT, ST，针疚，在加上带阿女多看唔同的儿童眼科，脑神经科的专科医生。希望医生能为阿女特别做一副眼镜，使阿女能正常的看东西。我看到不少的baby戴眼镜，不足为怪。
ndw.

作者: Aidenmom 時間: 08-9-23 19:01

Hi slh,

我是07年到新加坡上堂的, 單人us$1070, 父母2人us$1685, 呢個應該係08年價錢, 新加坡上堂要再俾附加費, 至於日本我就唔係好清楚, 因我去日本係帶囝囝做revisit, 新加坡會每年7月先有班, 日本就好似1月同7月都有。
iahp唔要求父母一齊上堂, 只係以後如果你打算帶阿b到iahp做program, 佢地要求父母都要曾經wtd course後先會安排約見, 上堂係唔駛帶阿b架, 因5天都係全日上堂, iahp唔會提供babysit服務。
我手頭仲有一份wtd course application form, 裡面有d資料, 如果你想睇, 可pm你個地址比我, 我寄比你, 又或者你可以上iahp website, 填online form, 佢地都會寄比你。

原帖由 slh 於 08-9-23 00:57 發表
Hi Aidenmon,

你上次在日本上堂是否5days course? 學費大概多少? 是否兩公婆一齊上同洗唔洗帶呀b一齊上? 唔好意思, 1次問你這麼多問題!

作者: st 時間: 08-9-29 13:57

I login finally.

ndw,
about Seizure:

our last visit to IAHP, met a kid from sing who is Seizure, he is around age2-3. her mother said, he kid got Seizure, and then sleep for 2 days... not wake.

U know why?from IAHP, when the brain need oxygen , then the body will Seizure... after Seizure the kid will very tired.... so sleep sleep sleep. coz sleeping need less oxygen then wake.

the iahp have methods to help the kid stop Seizure.e.g.masking, nutrition, environment..etc

About books :
the first book to read, must be : What to do about yr brain injured child.
the second book :how smart is yr baby, coz yr bb is small. also, they have chapter to teach mother to train bb's eyes.
then should be how to teach yr bb to read.

st

[ 本帖最後由 st 於 08-9-29 14:11 編輯 ]

作者: jencheng 時間: 08-9-30 01:08

ndw,

Totally agreed w/ st, you should read the book " how to do with your brain-injured child" There is an example exactly how the mom treat his baby's eye. I also known a mom in HK whose kid have seizure & finally get rid of it. It not magic , we need many many many trainings.

原帖由 st 於 08-9-29 13:57 發表
I login finally.

ndw,
about Seizure:

our last visit to IAHP, met a kid from sing who is Seizure, he is around age2-3. her mother said, he kid got Seizure, and then sleep for 2 days... not wak ...

作者: slh 時間: 08-10-1 23:36

今日同呀女係床仔玩, 呀女終於可以自己由坐扶住床仔起身!!!

雖然有d"論進", 但真係有個好開始~ 我地成屋人重開心到拍晒手掌

tim~

作者: catca 時間: 08-10-2 22:42

Good for you, slh! Keep going! Janet is also crawling much faster than b4. She seems to be ready to creep soon.

原帖由 slh 於 08-10-1 23:36 發表
今日同呀女係床仔玩, 呀女終於可以自己由坐扶住床仔起身!!! 雖然有d"論進", 但真係有個好開始~ 我地成屋人重開心到拍晒手掌 tim~

作者: slh 時間: 08-10-28 14:03

catca,

想問吓小Janet 學扶住床仔起身, 學咗幾耐至可以次次都企得好? 我呀女由第一次起到身到宜家有成4個星期了, 成日都有同佢訓練, 但都唔係次次得, 10次只有5次成功???? 佢隻腳仔成日都放得唔好, 用唔到力!!!

係唔係我太心急????

作者: catca 時間: 08-10-28 22:41

slh
起初Janet第1次係床仔企到起身係出乎意料的，之後一直唔見佢再企。大約個多月後，佢又再出其不意地扶著梳化企起身，之後愈來愈密，後來就master得好好了！你等多一陣啦，bb好快就會表演你睇架喇！

原帖由 slh 於 08-10-28 14:03 發表
catca,

想問吓小Janet 學扶住床仔起身, 學咗幾耐至可以次次都企得好? 我呀女由第一次起到身到宜家有成4個星期了, 成日都有同佢訓練, 但都唔係次次得, 10次只有5次成功???? 佢隻腳仔成日都放得唔好, 用唔到力!!!
...

作者: MCHK 時間: 09-4-5 15:28

Hi, thank you for all the helpful information.

Does any one have a crawling track which is not used by her baby any more? Can I buy it if possible?

作者: slh 時間: 09-4-8 00:01

Hi catca,

你講得啱, 佢地d小朋友係會出其不意地比d驚喜我地d大人, 自從我地將佢張床仔降低咗, 佢好以唔記得點扶住起身?(可能手仔唔夠長?) , 有一段時間冇自己扶住床仔起身

, 後來過咗一排, 佢間中論論盡盡咁, 都可以起到~

不過呢個星期, 佢不知幾醒(可能個人高咗, 隻手長咗?), 又成日扶住床仔起身. 有時係訓係床,跟住由訓轉坐, 再由坐到櫃,由櫃到自己扶住床企, 都唔駛幾秒...... 佢仲係有隻手仔揸住床攔扶住由訓轉側坐tim, 之前教極佢都唔識...

原帖由 catca 於 08-10-28 22:41 發表
slh
起初Janet第1次係床仔企到起身係出乎意料的，之後一直唔見佢再企。大約個多月後，佢又再出其不意地扶著梳化企起身，之後愈來愈密，後來就master得好好了！你等多一陣啦，bb好快就會表演你睇架喇！
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作者: icookies1 時間: 09-4-30 16:44 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

May you tell me how can i have the book in Chinese version for learning climbing?

作者: slh 時間: 09-5-2 23:47

icookies1,

please check pm~

原帖由 icookies1 於 09-4-30 16:44 發表
May you tell me how can i have the book in Chinese version for learning climbing?

作者: icookies1 時間: 09-5-3 15:41

請問有無人再唔需要用crawling track 可否給我呀, 因為我個囡成十九個月仲未識爬, 唔該唔該.

作者: icookies1 時間: 09-5-3 15:46 標題: 回覆 # 的文章

please check PM. thanks a lot!

作者: ck2005ml 時間: 09-5-6 11:25

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作者: st 時間: 09-5-6 17:39

ck,

is yr girl creep yet ? or crawl? let her creep / crawl as much as possible, when she is ready, she will walk.

have u start reading program? reading program help brain development .

st

原帖由 ck2005ml 於 09-5-6 11:25 發表
st,

我女女一歲用crawling track, 十四個月才懂爬, 現在十六個月平衡力不足, 要協助才能行, 請問怎樣訓練她呢?

謝謝

ck

作者: icookies1 時間: 09-5-7 17:53 標題: 回覆 5# slh 的文章

I've got the thing you gave me. Thanks a lot for your kindness.

作者: icookies1 時間: 09-5-7 18:00 標題: 回覆 8# slh 的文章

想問下呢, 點樣教bb由訓轉坐, 再由坐到櫃,由櫃到自己扶住床企呀?
另外, 佢不嬲都用左手多, 右手好少用, 當佢叺係地時, 佢會用手撐起, 有時會向後"吞", 不夠一陣就會因為右手唔夠力而瞓返低, 咁點先可以幫到佢向前爬呀, 唔好意思咁多問題, 因為佢成十九個月都唔識爬同自己企.

作者: icookies1 時間: 09-5-7 18:02 標題: 回覆 8# slh 的文章

想問下呢, 點樣教bb由訓轉坐, 再由坐到櫃,由櫃到自己扶住床企呀?
另外, 佢不嬲都用左手多, 右手好少用, 當佢叺係地時, 佢會用手撐起, 有時會向後"吞", 不夠一陣就會因為右手唔夠力而瞓返低, 咁點先可以幫到佢向前爬呀, 唔好意思咁多問題, 因為佢成十九個月都唔識爬同自己企.

作者: icookies1 時間: 09-5-7 18:05 標題: 回覆 8# slh 的文章

想問下呢, 點樣教bb由訓轉坐, 再由坐到櫃,由櫃到自己扶住床企呀?
另外, 佢不嬲都用左手多, 右手好少用, 當佢叺係地時, 佢會用手撐起, 有時會向後"吞", 不夠一陣就會因為右手唔夠力而瞓返低, 咁點先可以幫到佢向前爬呀, 唔好意思咁多問題, 因為佢成十九個月都唔識爬同自己企.

作者: slh 時間: 09-5-7 19:32

原帖由 icookies1 於 09-5-7 18:05 發表
想問下呢, 點樣教bb由訓轉坐, 再由坐到櫃,由櫃到自己扶住床企呀?
另外, 佢不嬲都用左手多, 右手好少用, 當佢叺係地時, 佢會用手撐起, 有時會向後"吞", 不夠一陣就會因為右手唔夠力而瞓返低, 咁點先可以幫到佢向前爬 ...

其實上PT時, PT叫我地將佢打側訓係地下, 喝跟住輕輕按著腰, 放好隻手(小小屈曲), 等佢用力吓隻手仔,斜斜地起身... 不過學極都唔識, 次次都要我地按住佢條腰至做到, 其實pt話佢係可以夠力做, 不過唔夠信心......

過咗一陣佢自己用咗另一個方法由訓轉坐, 係反身扒係度, 跟住pat pat 向上,然後腳向前叔,跟住就隻手撐住地下,就坐咗起身. 我地冇教個佢呢個姿勢............

作者: slh 時間: 09-5-7 23:35

其實我呀囡到宜家(28個月)都未識自己爬同企. 只係可以扶住床仔自己起身企, 同扶住床仔,家私等行, 不過都唔係利得好穩陣~ 不過每晚食飯時間聽到"畢打自己人"隻主題曲都會單手扶住床仔, 另一隻手放高個, 扭 pat pat 咁跳舞, 真係好攪笑~

原帖由 icookies1 於 09-5-7 18:05 發表
想問下呢, 點樣教bb由訓轉坐, 再由坐到櫃,由櫃到自己扶住床企呀?
另外, 佢不嬲都用左手多, 右手好少用, 當佢叺係地時, 佢會用手撐起, 有時會向後"吞", 不夠一陣就會因為右手唔夠力而瞓返低, 咁點先可以幫到佢向前爬 ...

作者: ck2005ml 時間: 09-5-7 23:51

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作者: st 時間: 09-5-8 15:17

reading program = doman reading program, from single words, to couplets, sentences, books...

原帖由 ck2005ml 於 09-5-7 23:51 發表
ST,

Thank you so much for your specialised advice. She can creep using the crawling track. However, She cannot keep her balance and always hold something to walk. Does she creep up instead of cr ...

作者: st 時間: 09-5-8 15:17

have u read the book : How to teach your bb to read ??

原帖由 st 於 09-5-8 15:17 發表
reading program = doman reading program, from single words, to couplets, sentences, books...

作者: ck2005ml 時間: 09-5-8 23:47

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