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標題: 讀公文式好嗎? [打印本頁]

作者: nelsonwong222    時間: 08-5-22 17:48     標題: 讀公文式好嗎?

我的小孩今年6歲, 想報讀公文式, 請問有沒有用嗎? 給些意見! tks!
作者: 萬人迷    時間: 08-5-23 14:17

原文章由 nelsonwong222 於 08-5-22 17:48 發表
我的小孩今年6歲, 想報讀公文式, 請問有沒有用嗎? 給些意見! tks!


我個女k2已經開始, honestly, 有優點也有缺點.  

優點:
1. 能自動自覺做功課
2. 打好個底
3. 不是太抗拒做功課

缺點:
1. 太沉悶, 特別是起步時會較能力淺.  但目的是加強小朋友自信心.
2. 如指定時間未完成, 或錯過一條, 就未能升班, 又要重覆巧課.
3. 放學時間唔定, 如果不是住得近, 要在學校門口等. 有時等成45分鐘.

很難講得太詳盡. 你可等他們有時會有免費班試堂.
作者: chansmrochelle    時間: 08-5-23 21:27     標題: 公文式

我對twin讀緊公文英文(約三個月),如果你的孩子坐不定又或比較怕英文,我覺得效果唔錯‧但公文數真的有d悶‧
作者: un_gu    時間: 08-5-26 16:58

How old are they?  Could you why you think it's good?

原文章由 chansmrochelle 於 08-5-23 21:27 發表
我對twin讀緊公文英文(約三個月),如果你的孩子坐不定又或比較怕英文,我覺得效果唔錯‧但公文數真的有d悶‧

作者: 晴晴的媽媽    時間: 08-6-4 14:54

原文章由 nelsonwong222 於 08-5-22 17:48 發表
我的小孩今年6歲, 想報讀公文式, 請問有沒有用嗎? 給些意見! tks!


Hi nelsonwong222,

我囡囡都是讀緊公文英文,也是6歲,由上年10月開始,而家學緊phonics部份,我覺得要視乎你的孩子是否適合讀,因為有時都幾悶 ,要重覆又重覆加深小朋友的記憶,但可以訓練小朋友恆心及持久的學習英文,我囡每天都學併生字,就算唔係做公交英文時也會用併音方法去嘗試讀其他練習的生字,我覺得禁樣都唔錯 ,因為這是自學的動力。

晴晴的媽媽
作者: motherjody    時間: 08-6-4 18:18

公文數應該幾好, 仔仔以前都有報讀過, 佢哋會俾習作仔仔做, 要計時既, 可以操到佢時間既控制, 同埋俾佢快啲諗到個答案, 公文啲數係好過公文既其他嘅.
作者: yvonne.wong    時間: 08-6-7 01:28

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作者: youma    時間: 08-6-7 12:42

可以唔補習, 最好唔補習... 個人意見.
作者: jackieman    時間: 08-6-7 14:38

原文章由 motherjody 於 08-6-4 18:18 發表
公文數應該幾好, 仔仔以前都有報讀過, 佢哋會俾習作仔仔做, 要計時既, 可以操到佢時間既控制, 同埋俾佢快啲諗到個答案, 公文啲數係好過公文既其他嘅. ...

I DON'T AGREE.每科各有長處,反而覺得數學可自行操數,多做練習即可
作者: ddbmug    時間: 08-6-7 19:21

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作者: 丸丸    時間: 08-6-7 19:40

原文章由 ddbmug 於 08-6-7 19:21 發表
一個 "悶"字,
其實都係記野之嘛, 幫唔到小朋友埋解, 只係幫佢適應"填鴨式教育"

只係幫佢適應"填鴨式教育" <---BINGO! 我就係因為有呢個心態先畀個女學公文,過程係好辛苦+悶,但"填鴨式教育"就係要具備呢種刻苦既能力,我做亞媽既唯有係身邊支持佢,話佢知讀書係要一分耕耘一分收穫(公文可能唔成負出同收穫比例),我只係唔想自己小朋友做一隻暖水青蛙,現實中好多野都係捱出黎啦!
作者: ratafan    時間: 08-6-7 23:17

agreed that kumon is a bit boring cos it's sometimes too repetitive from my angle. But I don't agree it is 填鴨式教育. My kid is studying English and Math.  He started Math since K1, but Eng just 1 year ago.  I find Eng quite good (ERP)! He really learned a lot of vocabs and phonics. This helps his reading skills a lot.  I believe langauges could only be learnt from repetitive practice, practice and practice, no shortcut...
作者: ratafan    時間: 08-6-7 23:19

Kumon is not tutor classes. It's a self learning programme. They not have teachers to teach kids or help them the school homework.
原文章由 youma 於 08-6-7 12:42 發表
可以唔補習, 最好唔補習... 個人意見.

作者: Little_cy    時間: 08-6-7 23:25

如果想小朋友計數計得快d,咁應該學咩野數呢
作者: PakPak108    時間: 08-6-7 23:34

How's the kids to learn phonic by themselves, do they really no teachers to teach them?
作者: ratafan    時間: 08-6-7 23:38

in Kumon, they have CDs, and the home work would be specially designed on phonics section.  they could learn it naturally after doing the homework and listening to the CDs.  My kid is a typical example, he really learnt it by himself through doing Kumon homework.  but as parents, you have to be patient to help them sometimes, e.g. when you read them stories, and encounter some words with several syllabals, try to teach them the technic of splitting the words into separate pieces and try pronouncing it separately to form a word.
作者: toyocat    時間: 08-6-8 00:11

絕對是一個填鴨式教育,但對於我個女(5歲半)來說,是一個非常好的學習方法,她是一個坐唔定,唔專心,只顧看電視,玩玩具過一日的小朋友,唯有用塞得就塞的方法,將基本知識塞入佢個腦,我不是期望佢讀書叻,只是作最基本,用來打底,唔駛小學到大家都咁辛苦.佢學了公文數學及英文,我覺得效果幾好,英文好多生字都識串.
作者: jackieman    時間: 08-6-9 13:50

原文章由 ratafan 於 08-6-7 23:17 發表
agreed that kumon is a bit boring cos it's sometimes too repetitive from my angle. But I don't agree it is 填鴨式教育. My kid is studying English and Math.  He started Math since K1, but Eng just 1 ye ...

我支持你嘅講法  .另公民式始終跟個人能力而上,不等同學校形式[公民隨自己的能力升班] 吸收能力慢的也可慢慢來,相反快的可升班來挑戰自己 .不過每人有別,切記不要比較,否則小朋友,家長都難受了
作者: longlokma    時間: 08-6-9 18:14

Kuman is quite good for me. My son has learnt for almost two years. He is learning all three subjects and always proud of his level in learning.
作者: hinkiu    時間: 08-6-9 21:11

我個仔而家六歲, 都讀咗公文式差唔多九個月, 我初初都覺得幾沉悶架, 不過讀耐一段時間同升咗課程之後, 又發覺原來會喺不知不覺中幫到個小朋友架, 尤其是係佢越細個開始讀, 個進步就越明顯, 個程度快過學校好多, 所以我覺得都幾好呀!!
作者: Little_cy    時間: 08-6-9 23:14

咁如果想小朋友計數快d,應該讀咩野呢
作者: primary2007    時間: 08-6-10 09:13

請問每天每科讀多少頁?是否3科一齊開始?

原文章由 longlokma 於 08-6-9 18:14 發表
Kuman is quite good for me. My son has learnt for almost two years. He is learning all three subjects and always proud of his level in learning.

作者: hinhinmummy    時間: 08-6-10 10:28

原文章由 yvonne.wong 於 08-6-7 01:28 發表
我小朋友由5歲學到現在(8歲), 已經是做到超乙兩年成就,取得銀簰,而家做到通分母,我好辛苦每晚都要勞氣佢做公文數,但我又唔想放氣.

如果已經超越左佢學年的程度, 即係話佢本應2年級(8歲應該係2年級), 依家學緊4年級的分數, 甘佢上數學堂時, 還會吾會聽書? 定係會發夢呢?
作者: longlokma    時間: 08-6-10 19:49     標題: 回覆 #2 primary2007 的文章

I let him learn Eng in the beginning. A few months later, I let him learn other two subjects as agreed by himself.

About 5-8 pages homework for each subject per day.
作者: ratafan    時間: 08-6-10 22:58

when you reach level B, you could request the teacher to reduce the no. of spreadsheet to 5.  My kid is studying Eng and Math, i already asked the teacher to cut the worksheets for Math to 5 but keep Eng at 10. It takes him less than 45 mins to complete if he could concentrate. But for my case, my kid is not too concentrated and he would spend more than an hour.  
it's not necessary to start with all 3 subjects!  you should ask your teacher's advice as every kid has different progress. If you have too much work for them at the start, they would be too scared. So for my younger kid, I only started with only 1 subject.
作者: jackieman    時間: 08-6-11 01:27

原文章由 ratafan 於 08-6-10 22:58 發表
when you reach level B, you could request the teacher to reduce the no. of spreadsheet to 5.  My kid is studying Eng and Math, i already asked the teacher to cut the worksheets for Math to 5 but keep  ...

你解答得真好,我絕對同意
作者: Heidi媽    時間: 08-6-11 07:57

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作者: kerobobo    時間: 08-6-11 12:58

我個仔7歲,都想比佢學公文英文,是否每天都要做功課?成5-8頁大約要做幾耐?因佢本身學校功課都幾多,我怕仲辛苦,又您們之前說是由淺入深,那麼正常大約要幾耐才追到實際學校的進度?
作者: loy211    時間: 08-6-11 13:43

我個仔上過公文式免費堂(英文),我覺得他的指示欠清晰,阿仔唔知讀幾多次,好似一次,接著阿仔又話ok,唔知有冇耍我.
不過我可能k3都要佢報讀.
作者: kerobobo    時間: 08-6-12 10:39

記得我細個係公文數做過暑期工,剩係D細路排隊比份功課我照住份答案對,岩就打圈,錯就TICK,唔駛教,不過我有朋友話公交英幾好,諗住比佢試下,但佢地D教室好似除左學生,唔比人入去睇,好似幾神秘,又唔知仲有邊D學英文打底好.
作者: AndyRain    時間: 08-6-12 13:56

我個仔學緊數, 初頭學英先, 後來加埋數, 但後來覺得英對佢無幫助, so quit左英. quit左英後, 佢既數就好左, 可能workload細左. 佢開始係公文數搵到成功感, 之後就進步快左d. 我諗佢地係要有那種成功感......... 同埋我鐘意佢唔限年零, 只要你有能力, 佢就會教你, 這是我最終所想要的.  另外, 我個centre無執得咁謹話啱少一條都唔俾你升級, 因為佢睇你平時d 功課佢都知你識唔識做架啦.  我就係鐘意佢會彈性處理, 因為唔會咁死板. 雖然俾個細路pass, 但都會warn下佢話叫佢下次唔可以再係咁, 一定要做好d. 否則, 要佢降番落黎.  我個仔而家雖然係over學年, 但係我覺得 咁樣都幾好, 因以佢既性格, 學識了, 之後又可能會唔記得d.  咁而家係公文先學, 唔記得d, 跟住係學校再教番, so........補多次仲穩陣...

亞女就學緊公文英only無學數(因佢第時讀英文數, so唔係到學了). 佢4歲開始學, 學到而家5歲幾, 我覺得幫到佢好多, 當然我都用了很多時間同佢溫/讀, 但很有效果, 而家剛升了a1.
作者: kerobobo    時間: 08-6-12 16:42

原文章由 AndyRain 於 08-6-12 13:56 發表
我個仔學緊數, 初頭學英先, 後來加埋數, 但後來覺得英對佢無幫助, so quit左英. quit左英後, 佢既數就好左, 可能workload細左. 佢開始係公文數搵到成功感, 之後就進步快左d. 我諗佢地係要有那種成功感......... 同埋 ...

ANDYRAIN:
哦,我個仔又係用英文教數,就來升小二,所以想比佢學公文英打好個底,依家學會否遲呢?
作者: broadband    時間: 08-6-13 09:46     標題: 請問公文係香港有幾耐歷史?

我個女重細,但都有興趣了解下先?
作者: AndyRain    時間: 08-6-13 17:04

hi, kerobobo

我個仔那時都係小二學英文的, 同一套野我個仔同個女都有學, 但係效果就差好遠了.  亞仔學左年幾.........無mug明顯進步, 亞仔係小二開始學的.  但亞女k2開始左, 而家都係學了一年鬆d, 但就覺得真係有幫助.  我唔知關唔關細個學會好d 呢個原因, 但係個人本生就一定有關係...... 因為我亞女學mug都比亞哥學得好的, 換句話說, 我亞仔學mug都學得唔好的, so 唔一定關公文事.  

我自己有跟亞女d野, 所以我覺得........公文英文同學校d英文數係初小黎講未必有直接關係, 因為若你識好多英文, 但係唔識 all together, subtract, minus, plus, 那你科數都係c梗.  倒番轉, 若你應晒呢幾個字, 但英文底一般要英文數合格就一定唔難.

總結: 我用左好多時間去同亞女學公文英的, so 你要有心理準備, 晚晚要45分鐘至1個鐘(初頭9個月), 而家我就已放手2, 3個月了.

原文章由 kerobobo 於 08-6-12 16:42 發表

ANDYRAIN:
哦,我個仔又係用英文教數,就來升小二,所以想比佢學公文英打好個底,依家學會否遲呢?

作者: 200012    時間: 08-6-13 17:07

原文章由 kerobobo 於 08-6-12 10:39 發表
記得我細個係公文數做過暑期工,剩係D細路排隊比份功課我照住份答案對,岩就打圈,錯就TICK,唔駛教,不過我有朋友話公交英幾好,諗住比佢試下,但佢地D教室好似除左學生,唔比人入去睇,好似幾神秘,又唔知仲有邊D學英文打底 ...

做公文導師是否要比 $上堂 ?
作者: MIHO.WAH    時間: 08-6-13 23:21

原文章由 200012 於 08-6-13 17:07 發表

做公文導師是否要比 $上堂 ?



DEAR ALL

請問有沒有人是tko 及能告知那間 center 好 ?
因我想選間好給囡囡學公文數將來中, 英.
作者: kerobobo    時間: 08-6-17 14:37

原文章由 AndyRain 於 08-6-13 17:04 發表
hi, kerobobo

我個仔那時都係小二學英文的, 同一套野我個仔同個女都有學, 但係效果就差好遠了.  亞仔學左年幾.........無mug明顯進步, 亞仔係小二開始學的.  但亞女k2開始左, 而家都係學了一年鬆d, 但就覺得真係有 ...

下,晚晚讀成個鐘?係公立d功課多定點,我朋友又話每日花5分鐘就得既??
作者: kerobobo    時間: 08-6-17 14:53

原文章由 200012 於 08-6-13 17:07 發表

做公文導師是否要比 $上堂 ?

我以前做暑期工改卷咋,當時個老師仲捉埋佢個印傭幫手改,攪到佢鬼剎咁嘈呀辛苦,不過以我所知做公立好似特許經營咁,當然要夠資格先做得,但詳情就唔知啦.
作者: happy188    時間: 08-6-26 12:21

英文有兩種,那一種好些?

原文章由 AndyRain 於 08-6-13 17:04 發表
hi, kerobobo

我個仔那時都係小二學英文的, 同一套野我個仔同個女都有學, 但係效果就差好遠了.  亞仔學左年幾.........無mug明顯進步, 亞仔係小二開始學的.  但亞女k2開始左, 而家都係學了一年鬆d, 但就覺得真係有 ...

作者: MariaTsui    時間: 08-6-26 13:59

I prefer to ERP which is more difficult than EFL.  ERP is designed for international school students.  EFL is designed for local school students.  My son (K3) is studying in ERP.  He can handle and follow it.  However, my daughter (K1) is studying in EFL.  She can't handle ERP which is so many sentences even in the beginning level.  I think she is too young and never well-developed.  If the kid is OK, ERP is better than EFL.  They can learn a lot of vocaburaries to help their reading.
作者: kerobobo    時間: 08-6-26 14:06

原文章由 MariaTsui 於 08-6-26 13:59 發表
I prefer to ERP which is more difficult than EFL.  ERP is designed for international school students.  EFL is designed for local school students.  My son (K3) is studying in ERP.  He can handle and fo ...

MARIA TSUI:
我個仔小一,報了公文英,TEST完要由4A開始,老師說係學英文A-Z拼音,咁係屬於EFL定ERP,係咪讀EFL定ERP都係由老師決定呢??
作者: catcatmom    時間: 08-6-26 16:53

我小朋友讀了1年多公文中,學漢語拼音,對普通話有幫助, 對學校中文無幫助, 亞仔學校中文成績仲差左.不過對將來上到中一有漢語拼音,就會好過其他無學過公文既同學.


因坊間沒有一些好既中文班,而公文又係屋企下面,甘就補下啦!亞仔都好鍾意,因有"禮物", 同漢語拼音對佢無難道. 閱讀理解又淺過學校果d.


如果其他科, 就唔補公文啦! 因公文效果好長期,可能去中學先至見到, (這說話係中英數都補曬公文既媽咪講既!) 即刻見唔到.坊間好多數&英都辦得很好出色, 可以有好多選擇.

對於學過公文數既小朋友, 就算運算好叻, 學校考試出少少奧數or文字上有少少tricky, 甘就失分.


原文章由 nelsonwong222 於 08-5-22 17:48 發表
我的小孩今年6歲, 想報讀公文式, 請問有沒有用嗎? 給些意見! tks!

作者: MariaTsui    時間: 08-6-26 20:51

Kerobobo,

Both of them have Level 4A.  I think you should ask the tutor which one is studying right now.

Maria
作者: 丸媽媽    時間: 08-6-26 23:13

bk另一版有公文用家分享站,對此課程想有更深入了解,不妨一看 http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/vi ... 3512&extra=page%3D1




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