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作者: mickeyproperty 時間: 08-1-27 00:54 標題: 傾下==> 有冇人後悔到外國留學或移民

如題, 傾下呀.

作者: awah112 時間: 08-1-27 04:04

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作者: Goody 時間: 08-1-27 16:38 標題: 回覆 #1 mickeyproperty 的文章

一d都冇後悔當年到美國讀書! 我真係好感激父母在不是富裕的情況下都讓我出國。我相信如我沒有出國我的際遇會好唔同。

作者: 我愛Corina 時間: 08-1-27 23:29

無後悔...唔過黎讀書,識唔到我老公..

不過之前返學既日子都幾辛苦..

作者: kayan_329 時間: 08-1-28 12:18

初時就覺得有但係而家就後悔返o左香港我而家想返去我亞ma又唔比仲成日搵藉口~~

作者: Ah_Boo 時間: 08-1-28 17:18

I'm deeply appreciate about my parents let me studied in Canada. Now I live in NZ. Even life is not easy but I'm happy to see my son can growth here.

作者: jeannedarc 時間: 08-1-30 11:49

原文章由 Goody 於 08-1-27 16:38 發表
一d都冇後悔當年到美國讀書! 我真係好感激父母在不是富裕的情況下都讓我出國。我相信如我沒有出國我的際遇會好唔同。

Totally agree!! 如果我沒有父母的支持去澳洲讀書, 相信我已經....唔會有現在o既我..

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 08-1-30 13:06

我無後悔
不過﹐ 我有時候覺得其實吾一定系過黎就好﹐ 我可能系香港發展一樣會好好。

作者: reneeleung 時間: 08-1-30 21:28

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作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-1-31 03:20

我仲想知道你們去外國讀書係讀
broading school or homestay？
分享下優劣。

作者: jeannedarc 時間: 08-1-31 13:21

香港小六畢業 12 歲過了去澳洲, 跟家人一起居住:)

作者: awah112 時間: 08-2-1 00:46

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作者: mrschao 時間: 08-2-1 02:38

I came to the U.S. as a foreign exchange student after finishing F.5 in HK. The first year I studied in grade 12 in a high school and stayed with a U.S. family in a small town. Then I moved to San Francisco and lived with my relatives and studied in university. The one year I stayed with the American family is really nice. Although I was homesick, I could really learn better oral English.

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-2 12:56

冇, 冇後悔過, 我當時巳經係喺HA做姑娘仔, 但經理, 校長都叫我出國讀書, 我係半工讀, 開頭住homestay (Sydney)學英文, 之後落Melbourne 讀大學自己住... 以前就算亞媽唔鐘意我, 都未駛一腳踏take care 自己..
但住過homestay, 到出嚟自己住.. manage 自己嘅living cost.. 同起居一切嘅事, 個人成熟好多...
我要多謝爸爸, 冇stop 我, 唔俾我去讀大學... 出國留過學.. 令我mature, 做事會識分輕重, 有次序, 識得time management, decision making..

至於移民.. 而家, 我由澳洲嫁咗去美國... 都5年... 我反而冇以前留喺澳州嗰種自由,自在同快樂... 但女人嫁咗.... 我會揀"出嫁從夫".. 美國係老公hometown.. 佢走唔到.. 我就唯有留底.. 我哋made in HK 嘅.. 向來都能屈能申... 眼見HK教育制度唔完善, 冇理由送仔,女返HK "送C..." 我有後悔跟老公返US{冇留喺澳洲生BB}... 如果冇小朋友, 我definitely 會返Melbourne.

至於HK, 太多人, 太多車, 太多pollution.. plus, 我已經脫節... 返嚟HK, as a tourist 都ok.. 但如果要長住... 我諗...宜家係冇可能, 一來, 小朋友太細, 二來, HK人工太低, workload 太高, 工會冇勢力..so for us--> at least 等我同老公retired..

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-1 23:59 編輯 ]

作者: L.Squirrel 時間: 08-2-2 14:24

Hi Nillie_Mami ,

I also stuided in Melbourne before.. nice to meet u here. I got my master degree in Melbourne U, really miss the time there..

I never regret studying in Melbourne, it's such a lovely, peaceful and wonderful place!

同你一樣，我都好想返Melbourne。我在Melbourne識左我老公，後來又去過大陸&HK住。我後悔返左來。而家再返Melbourne的機會比較難，anyway, 我地已plan 左去NZ過我地新的生活 with our lovely son who is 15 months old now.

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-2-3 00:42

聽兩位所言
Melbourne seems a nice place ！

我想問下如果去澳洲讀中學，係咪咩地方都差吾多？讀大學至去 Melbourne 可以嗎？

作者: usbaby 時間: 08-2-3 02:41

我係7 年前移民黎美國, 當初係好開心, 但住得耐左覺得生活好乏味, 返工日日對住 D 鬼覺得同佢地文化太大好難相處, 又有種族歧視 (話冇係假既), 所以成日都好想返黎 HK 生活, 同埋我所有屋企人親戚朋友都係晒 HK, 所以更加渴望返黎. 但老公既屋企人十幾廿年前全部過晒黎呢度, 佢話除非係 HK 搵到份同佢宜家人工一樣既工作兼有地方住, 否則都好難叫到佢回流返黎, 同埋 HK 人多車多好劑迫空氣又唔好教育又成日出問題住屋方面又困難工作壓力又大時間又長, 冇一樣野令佢值得回流, 但返黎旅行既話就冇問題.

[ 本文章最後由 usbaby 於 08-2-3 02:48 編輯 ]

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-3 10:02

virgokaren,
個個省市都唔同, Sydney, melbourne 係純香港出世長大嘅人嘅落腳地.. 而南澳都有好多香港人呢.. 初到步會易settle down 啲..
melbourne, 冇sydney咁亂咁多人咁多姿多采.. 啱讀書同生活多啲..

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-2-2 11:42 AM 發表
聽兩位所言
Melbourne seems a nice place ！

我想問下如果去澳洲讀中學，係咪咩地方都差吾多？讀大學至去 Melbourne 可以嗎？

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-3 10:05

L.Squirrel
nice to meet you too.. I graduated from La Trobe University (nursing)... years ago.. I really like Melbourne. me and my fat bear hubby decided.. to move back to Melbourne when we retired.. that is the place for us..
Hong Kong.. just a place to travel only.

原文章由 L.Squirrel 於 08-2-2 01:24 AM 發表
Hi Nillie_Mami ,

I also stuided in Melbourne before.. nice to meet u here. I got my master degree in Melbourne U, really miss the time there..

I never regret studying in Melbourne, it's such a lovel ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-3 10:09

usbaby,
你唔喺美國媽咪會留言嘅...?你好呀! 我係住美東架...得閒嚟chit chat 吓..
美東, 美西BK mami 成日都有gathering.. 香港人聚首一堂, 好開心架

原文章由 usbaby 於 08-2-2 01:41 PM 發表
我係7 年前移民黎美國, 當初係好開心, 但住得耐左覺得生活好乏味, 返工日日對住 D 鬼覺得同佢地文化太大好難相處, 又有種族歧視 (話冇係假既), 所以成日都好想返黎 HK 生活, 同埋我所有屋企人親戚朋友都係晒 HK, 所 ...

作者: L.Squirrel 時間: 08-2-3 18:53

Nillie_Mami,

你屋企人係HK or US? 我屋企人(Dad, Mum, sisters & brother)係香港，遲D我同老公&囝囝去NZ 住，我唯一唔捨得HK的，就係我的屋企人。

usbaby,
HK 係一個多姿多彩的社會，我以前放工，又shopping又唱K，又dinner outside好happy。香港係一個好地方 ONLY IF 你有錢。有錢可以個個week食buffet，買新衫新電話，又有好多好grand 的restaurants。不過…其實好多香港人日日做到9-10pm先放工，屋貴車又貴。表面好好其實生活得好辛苦。

其實我都好鐘意香港的繁華，不過係HK生活，付出的代價好大。

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-3 23:19

L.squirrel,
我自已全家人就喺HK, 哥哥同亞嫂都移民咗去HK (they were in UK).. 我又係有一個bro,1個sis, 我自己喺中間, so 我變得獨立... 95年已寄宿(nursing school), so 我就唔會太過黏實家人.. 係開頭去sydney 讀書有homesick, 但爸爸話佢冇迫我出國, 條路係我自己揀... 有homesick係我唔mature (當時我已21-22歲), so 我同自己講, 我要tough啲, 如果你見到我真人.. 你會知我係嗰啲"鄰家小女孩...daddy's girl"look嘅人..
Homestay Daddy&Mommy 真係我嘅英文啓蒙老師.. 我亦喺佢哋喥學識點開始自己住嘅skill.. 搭車, 買groceries, 交bills, 點揀租屋...

如果有能力, 應送子女出國讀大學...(中學生, 自制能力較差, 易學壞) although, 我係半工讀, 放學要去nursing home 幫老人家餵飯, 換片.. weekend 去老人院幫老人家沖澡, 剪頭髮.. or 出china town 做cash job.. 自己揾, 自己用.. 每一毫子都有血有汗呢...
但我都好俾心機讀書.. 因為我知我冇extra saving 去repeat a whole year 呢..

原文章由 L.Squirrel 於 08-2-3 05:53 AM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

你屋企人係HK or US? 我屋企人(Dad, Mum, sisters & brother)係香港，遲D我同老公&囝囝去NZ 住，我唯一唔捨得HK的，就係我的屋企人。

usbaby,
HK 係一個多姿多彩的社會，我以前放工，又shopping又唱K，又dinner o ...

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-3 10:23 編輯 ]

作者: kayan_329 時間: 08-2-4 00:25

我覺得你地真係好叻~ 我係全家最細所以咩都ng識

作者: Irene_BB 時間: 08-2-4 10:35

我想請問去美國讀書好﹐還是澳洲或紐西蘭好呢

美國有親人(姐弟關係)幫我一家搞移民(其實真係為個仔)請問有無人一様要多久才申請到呢

唔知澳或紐無親人﹐自己申請會唔會好難呢？

(我不是有錢人)
唔該

作者: I_sister 時間: 08-2-4 15:16

好奇問問各位,
其實到海外留學是否真的比本地好?
如果我看的是學業水平,e.g.大學課程深淺,
而不是壓力、獨立能力呢?

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 08-2-4 23:36

原文章由 Irene_BB 於 08-2-4 10:35 發表
我想請問去美國讀書好﹐還是澳洲或紐西蘭好呢
美國有親人(姐弟關係)幫我一家搞移民(其實真係為個仔)請問有無人一様要多久才申請到呢
唔知澳或紐無親人﹐自己申請會唔會好難呢？ (我不是有錢人)
唔該:mrgr ...

I think my case is the same as yours. My sister is US citizen and she applied my family (me, hubby & my kid) to be US residents 3 years ago. My sister said that the application will be approved around 12 years.

作者: usbaby 時間: 08-2-5 01:09

Nillie_Mami,

你好呀. 我去過美國媽咪會o個邊 D 睇過, 你地成日都有聚會好開心呀, 但我兩邊都唔係, 我住係中西部, 係一個冇乜 HK 人住既地方, 呢度好鄉下冇乜娛樂, 所以我覺得生活好乏味就係咁解, 得閒我會多 D 去個度 chat 下, 多謝你話我知有個咁既留言版.

L. Squirrel,

係呀, 我真係好懷念以前係 HK 返工放工既日子, 差唔多每日放工後就諗約乜野朋友去邊度玩邊度食飯, 真係好開心架, D 野又新又追得上潮流又靚, 所以我真係好鐘意呢個地方, 成日都想回流返 HK 住.

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-5 03:05

yan_cheng, irene,
因為離晒題.. 有關移民美國.. 請click the link below, 我喺移民監forum答你哋喇..
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=923052&extra=page%3D1

原文章由 Yau_Cheung 於 08-2-4 10:36 AM 發表
I think my case is the same as yours. My sister is US citizen and she applied my family (me, hubby & my kid) to be US residents 3 years ago. My sister said that the application will be approved ar ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-5 03:43

I_sister,
opps.. writing broad doesn't work
hum.. I would say.. the academy level will be almost the same.. (but just keep it in mind).. For English level entry level not as good as overseas student.. to enter the university in hk.. they only need about IELTS 5.5 to 6, but in Melbourne, Australia, or in New York, USA (I am so sorry.. I only know the english level in this 2 cities of these 2 countries), they requested IELTS 7.
this is the different.
Did you read the Hong Kong ming pao news a few days ago.. about the chinese (mother tongue)high school and the English teaching school.. the rate to get into University is 100:22.. people with poor English level may almost say GOODBYE to all those High Academic level job such as Doctor or lawyer.. I certainly know that.. that news is just a research.. but, will you let your child to take that risk?
Kids with good native English speaking skill.. promte to have better career.
Other than that, I believe that academic level will be the same.

原文章由 I_sister 於 08-2-4 02:16 AM 發表
好奇問問各位,
其實到海外留學是否真的比本地好?
如果我看的是學業水平,e.g.大學課程深淺,
而不是壓力、獨立能力呢?

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-5 04:19

usbaby,
I am agree with Squirrel, I love the night live in HK. but it is not a good place to live. I know that I can not provide the same living standard for my children to live in hk, therefore, I chose to stay in US.
Actually, we got a lot of moms in IL, texas.. you might meet some friends.. ^O^

原文章由 usbaby 於 08-2-4 12:09 PM 發表
Nillie_Mami,

你好呀. 我去過美國媽咪會o個邊 D 睇過, 你地成日都有聚會好開心呀, 但我兩邊都唔係, 我住係中西部, 係一個冇乜 HK 人住既地方, 呢度好鄉下冇乜娛樂, 所以我覺得生活好乏味就係咁解, 得閒我會多 D 去 ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-5 04:30

virgokaren,
I did not try any broading overseas.. but about the homestay, it is a quite pleasure experience and an easy way to learn English from daily lives..

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-1-30 02:20 PM 發表
我仲想知道你們去外國讀書係讀
broading school or homestay？
分享下優劣。

作者: bunnymonkey 時間: 08-2-5 08:30

"一d都冇後悔當年到美國讀書! 我真係好感激父母在不是富裕的情況下都讓我出國。我相信如我沒有出國我的際遇會好唔同。" - totally agree. :)

After I had finished Form 6 in HK, I went to the US for college. I lived in dorm (not in homestay/host family) for my whole undergrad program. I think I adapted to the college/US life pretty well and I wasn't homesick. All the schoolwork and part time (worked in school libarary/computer labs) job make me busy and no time to be "homesick". :D I guess "stay with host family" maybe better for those younger overseas students (e.g. high school kids). I live in dorm and interact with local American and other international students and it's a good way for me to learn the local culture as well (maybe less "family-oriented" compare to those stay with the host family) but I can know more people and make friends. Also more freedom as well. :)

To me, I think I like to live in dorm. Also, it's more convenient for me to go to school etc and I don't need a car.

[ 本文章最後由 bunnymonkey 於 08-2-6 16:33 編輯 ]

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-6 05:43

my final year, I lived in the dom as well, because I have all my clinical placement in different states and countries.. so, it will be easier for me to live in the dom.
The period I lived in dom.. wasn't bad.. do not need to worry about bills, the best internet connection. about driving.. I can't skip because I need to go on my clinical placement early at 6am in the morning. they got the parking lot for me.
but I would say.. even I lived in the master lounge (which for master and mature students --should be quiet).. but.. still ... not as quiet as I live outside.. if you got a noisy roommate next to you.. that is a night mare.
some doms for mix gender.. so boys and girls live inside the dom.. but in single room (the one I lived).
Kitchen needs to be share.. once you used to live outside to have your own space.. that is quite inconveinence.. but I got no choice.. as I need to go to syndey for 4 weeks placement, went back to hk for another research placement for 4 weeks. the only option for me.. was staying in the dom.. they hold the room for me for those period I was away.. that is pretty cool.
I don't really have time to gather with other room mates, as my studies was really busy.. plus I have my part time job in nursing home and china town chinese supermarket.. I didn't really spend time with them.. on the other hand.. I have all my Hong Kong friends who studies in Melbourne U, RMIT, etc.. so.. I went to my friends' home and cooked for them once a while. or go to my classmates' home and have a sleepover with my Australian friends...

broading school 適合中, 小學生.. 因為佢哋未有能力自理/同manage finance.
大學宿舍啱啲有適量英語能力嘅學生
homestay.. 適合要學英文嘅人多啲(多適合有自理能力嘅... 因為要take care自己之餘.. 要通常share housework嘅)中小學生...就要監護... 好多homestay 都唔想背付呢個責任呢

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-7 22:16 編輯 ]

作者: VBma 時間: 08-2-21 20:29

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-4 01:19 發表
L.squirrel,
我自已全家人就喺HK, 哥哥同亞嫂都移民咗去HK (they were in UK).. 我又係有一個bro,1個sis, 我自己喺中間, so 我變得獨立... 95年已寄宿(nursing school), so 我就唔會太過黏實家人.. 係開頭去sydney ...

我同你既CASE差唔多﹐我都係半讀生﹐中五畢業揾左幾年錢﹐就過左澳洲CANBERRA讀左幾年﹐之後識埋我老公之後﹐一畢業就結婚生仔﹐係CANBERRA定左居。
未識我老公之前個幾年﹐真係好。。好。。好後悔過左去讀書﹐因為個幾年真係好辛苦咁過﹐每次提返起我超想喊。
我初初係住D所謂既遠親屋企﹐但係過既生活比住HOMESTAY仲慘﹗$$就同homestay一樣咁多﹐但食呀住呀﹐仲比homestay差﹐最慘係要睇人面色﹐天黑6點前一定要返屋企﹐5比出夜街﹐5係冇飯食﹐唔理乜理由﹐所以成日冇飯食﹐頭1年就係咁過。第2年d英文學好左﹐搬左出黎住﹐但手頭上d$$5多﹐所以揾左幾份餐館工﹐一個星期返7晚﹐中午5需要返學既時候就返工。溫書做工課都係特放break或收工個時做。個時咁辛苦﹐真係有諗過放棄返hk﹐但又唔想比人地睇死﹐所以都迫住過左幾年咁既日字。

[ 本文章最後由 VBma 於 08-2-21 22:31 編輯 ]

作者: VBma 時間: 08-2-21 20:49

仲記得有一年病左成個星期﹐冇收入成個星期呀﹐而且就快要交學費﹐d housemate剛剛放short break返左hk﹐成個冰櫃冇曬野食﹐得返d egg﹐咁就食左成個星期egg炒飯。
好彩後黎識左我老公﹐佢一家人對我都好好﹐特別係99。而家我有個幸福既家﹐可愛既一對仔女﹐所以冇後悔當初留學既決定。

[ 本文章最後由 VBma 於 08-2-22 16:34 編輯 ]

作者: VBma 時間: 08-2-21 21:00

原文章由 usbaby 於 08-2-5 03:09 發表
係呀, 我真係好懷念以前係 HK 返工放工既日子, 差唔多每日放工後就諗約乜野朋友去邊度玩邊度食飯, 真係好開心架, D 野又新又追得上潮流又靚, 所以我真係好鐘意呢個地方, 成日都想回流返 HK 住...

我曾經都好懷念以前係hk既日字﹐不過當我返左幾次hk之後﹐就已經十分唔適應﹐空氣差﹐人太多﹐我己經out左﹐返到hk揾返以前d朋友出黎玩都揾唔反topic,唱k又識d新歌﹐朋友出多黎一兩次就唔會想同你出黎﹐所以hk真係適合9唔9先返去一次既地方。

作者: awah112 時間: 08-2-22 02:38

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作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-22 09:20

VBma,
我當年係好辛苦, 但我好興幸我挨過咗, 個人大咗, 成熟咗, 除咗照顧自己ok, 仲可以兼顧別人. 如果我當年冇出國, 我唔會有今日.. 我只會係一隻井底之蛙.. 仲要係要人照顧嗰隻呢..
你而家挨過, 咪會更珍惜而家有嘅一切, 當年嘅"辛苦", 係今日的"得著"呢..
我都係乳牛媽咪... 仔仔14個月大lu... 唔知幾時, 佢會say "No" to me, 唔要BF, 好似家姐咁呢..?
你打算餵幾耐呀??

原文章由 VBma 於 08-2-21 07:29 AM 發表

我同你既CASE差唔多﹐我都係半讀生﹐中五畢業揾左幾年錢﹐就過左澳洲CANBERRA讀左幾年﹐之後識埋我老公之後﹐一畢業就結婚生仔﹐係CANBERRA定左居。
未識我老公之前個幾年﹐真係好。。好。。好後悔過左去讀書﹐因為個幾年真係好辛苦 ...

作者: VBma 時間: 08-2-22 21:39

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-22 11:20 發表
VBma,
我當年係好辛苦, 但我好興幸我挨過咗, 個人大咗, 成熟咗, 除咗照顧自己ok, 仲可以兼顧別人. 如果我當年冇出國, 我唔會有今日.. 我只會係一隻井底之蛙.. 仲要係要人照顧嗰隻呢..
你而家挨過, 咪會更珍惜而家有 ...

我都係乳牛媽咪... 仔仔14個月大lu... 唔知幾時, 佢會say "No" to me, 唔要BF, 好似家姐咁呢..?
你打算餵幾耐呀??

咁我都興幸我都挨過左,而且揾到個好老公﹐雖然生活有D悶﹐但好過以前一個人.
我仔仔剛剛先4個月,我打算餵到1yrs old﹐因為仔仔1yrs old 我地一家打算返HK旅行,餵人奶好似唔方便﹐SO打算1 yrs old 同佢介左去.
我大女就5係餵人奶,餵左一個月就放棄左.

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-24 08:53

VBma,
你好勇敢呀.... 我冇"吉屎--guts" 帶住"打不死1號Amanda日2號Gabriel 上飛機返HK, 我知我攪佢哋唔掂...
我哋plan 住 next year summer, send Amanda 自己返HK.. Gabriel 會wait until 3歲至會同家姐返HK.. at least, 佢識聽識講, 冇communication error 先喇..
諗起要飛.. 真係一額汗

原文章由 VBma 於 08-2-22 08:39 AM 發表

我都係乳牛媽咪... 仔仔14個月大lu... 唔知幾時, 佢會say "No" to me, 唔要BF, 好似家姐咁呢..?
你打算餵幾耐呀??

咁我都興幸我都挨過左,而且揾到個好老公﹐雖然生活有D悶﹐但好過以前一個人.
我仔仔剛剛先4個月,我打 ...

作者: VBma 時間: 08-2-25 20:02

我女女個時到係1Yrs Old同佢返HK旅行,去個程有99同老公一齊,所以5怕.但返個程就自己同女女, so far 都ok,冇喊但5肯訓.今次就一家4口一齊去一齊返,應該ok.
嘩!你咁勇比佢地自己返hk呀,5怕咩?我知有人會陪﹐但太細我怕.

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-2-26 02:57

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-5 04:30 發表
virgokaren,
I did not try any broading overseas.. but about the homestay, it is a quite pleasure experience and an easy way to learn English from daily lives..

我吾擔心同 homestay family 的相處問題，
我有d 擔心如果住 homestay 要自己返學放學，
會吾會容易學壞？
途中遇上壞人？
放學後去夜街等等的問題...。

如果有熟悉的 homestay host，放假可以一齊去行街、picnic、釣魚...咁就最理想！

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-26 03:25

virgokaren,
therefore, 我suggest, 如果年紀細係唔適宜住 homestay.
因為冇自理能力.. home stay 唔同你"湊"仔.. 佢哋只係提供一個"home"嘅環境俾個學生學當地生活,文化..
我home stay parents weekend 帶我一齊join family day 架, 因為我係佢家嘅一份子嘛..
home stay 講明早餐, 晚餐幾時食架.. 唔食dinner, 要之前通知.. 每個homestay 都有自己嘅rules, 俾 homestay students 去follow.
homestay location 多數近學校, 當然係自己返學喇, 細到唔識自己坐巴士/train 返學嘅 or 只有十零歲會學壞嘅... 去老牌broading school .. 你會安心啲..
我自己(屋企樓上).. 都只租俾女生(讀foundation, CC..etc) 架, 好多rules.
唔准帶人返嚟過夜.. bathroom 除自己同其餘flatmates(3 bedrooms), 唔准其他人take shower. (盡量唔俾佢哋亂嚟)
屋企清潔有routine, 要我哋take care(kind of homestay feel), 包餐嘅就要幫手煮飯洗碗,.. althought 係dish washer.. 但都要佢付責任.. weekend 佢哋係free to go or 跟我哋去玩, 但每晚限時鎖門.. 唔准出面瞓, otherwise 我會call 佢父母. (as 我有internet phone).
我哋只租俾讀pharma 同nursing 嘅學生.. 因為我可以教佢哋做功課, 我又有書, journals 可以借俾佢哋寫論文..
佢哋當然自己行出5個街口take bus 返學, or 自己揸車架喇.. 大個架喇嘛.
而家淨番一個pharma 畢業嘅, 唔想搬.. 我哋尤得佢繼續租住.. as 佢放工..Amanda(我個女)又多個buddy 同佢玩..

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-2-25 01:57 PM 發表
我吾擔心同 homestay family 的相處問題，
我有d 擔心如果住 homestay 要自己返學放學，
會吾會容易學壞？
途中遇上壞人？
放學後去夜街等等的問題...。
如果有熟悉的 homestay host，放假可以一齊去行街、picnic、釣魚... ...

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-25 14:34 編輯 ]

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-26 03:30

VBma,
直航機係OK 架... 我哋會請nanny 同Amanda 返HK.. 到Amana返NYC時, Nanny同佢一齊返 NYC.. even though, airline都話ok, 如果Amanda 滿6歲, 但我怕佢悶.. 17hours by herself, 好似好淒涼...
到Gabriel 3歲.. 就要舉家同行lu..

原文章由 VBma 於 08-2-25 07:02 AM 發表
我女女個時到係1Yrs Old同佢返HK旅行,去個程有99同老公一齊,所以5怕.但返個程就自己同女女, so far 都ok,冇喊但5肯訓.今次就一家4口一齊去一齊返,應該ok.
嘩!你咁勇比佢地自己返hk呀,5怕咩?我知有人會陪﹐但太細我怕. ...

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-2-27 01:51

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-26 03:25 發表
virgokaren,
therefore, 我suggest, 如果年紀細係唔適宜住 homestay.
因為冇自理能力.. home stay 唔同你"湊"仔.. 佢哋只係提供一個"home"嘅環境俾個學生學當地生活,文化..
我home stay parents weekend 帶我一齊j ...

如你所言，讀中學都係 broading school 好d。
但讀 U 吾係住宿舍好玩d 咩？

作者: kayan_329 時間: 08-2-27 07:39

Nillie_Mami～你係邊o度住ka(e.g加拿大，澳洲，美國)

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-27 10:26

virgokaren,
live in dome certainly is fun.. I live in Dome for my final year..
but if English base is not excellent.. plus.. spend those years in University --to just for fun.. then they better not student in medical and health care profession lu.. the studies is too compact..
those years for me in Australia.. was not fun at all.

Home stay can kick the student out if they don't follow rules.. so for teenagers and you don't trust them to be "by hemselves" better send them to broading school lor.

Sorry.. writing board doesn't work..

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-2-26 12:51 PM 發表
如你所言，讀中學都係 broading school 好d。
但讀 U 吾係住宿舍好玩d 咩？

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-27 10:27

Kayan,
I live in US new york lor..
came to US 5 years ago from Australia.

原文章由 kayan_329 於 08-2-26 06:39 PM 發表
Nillie_Mami～你係邊o度住ka(e.g加拿大，澳洲，美國)

作者: kayan_329 時間: 08-2-27 11:35

OH~~因為我見到你寫有租屋比人 SO問O下... 因為我會去加拿大不過仲有屋O既問題有煩惱唔知學校可唔可以有幾日果D住住先因為我打算會自己再搵D地方

作者: samanthavikki 時間: 08-2-27 22:12

我有啲後悔返左ｈｋ，不過我老公都係返ｏ黎識的。。。。
老公都有同我去過墨爾本探朋友，佢都好鍾意墨爾本～
有左仔仔之後，佢一直有移民ｏ既墨爾本ｏ既想法，因為香港ｏ既空氣越ｏ黎越差，食物又經常出問題（食物又大部分ｏ黎自大陸，大陸人為又搵錢乜都敢死），仲有香港ｏ既教育真係不敢恭維～所以仔仔亦入讀國際學校，而家有左第個個ｂｂ啦～睇ｏ黎移民亦係遲早ｏ既事～（因為供到佢地上大學都好金，不如早啲移民等佢地有個更好ｏ既生活環境）

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-2-28 02:37

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-27 10:26 發表
virgokaren,
live in dome certainly is fun.. I live in Dome for my final year..
but if English base is not excellent.. plus.. spend those years in University --to just for fun.. then they better not s ...

我 niece 都幾乖幾純品的，就係怕她太純，吾識應付突發事件。
homestay family 係咪全部經過挑選架？
我聽聞有些是一間屋，有成三四個學生一齊住，好似租屋咁，只係包三餐和住宿，咁咪無哂 family feel lor？

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-2-28 02:39

原文章由 kayan_329 於 08-2-27 11:35 發表
OH~~因為我見到你寫有租屋比人 SO問O下... 因為我會去加拿大不過仲有屋O既問題有煩惱唔知學校可唔可以有幾日果D住住先因為我打算會自己再搵D地方

你去溫哥華or Toronto ？
上次你住開果間無得租拿？
通常要幾錢一個月架？

作者: xother 時間: 08-2-28 03:04

I dont think we should regret on our decision on immigration. It is our choice and I take responsible on my decision.

Let me introduce myself. I grown up in HK and after finished F5, I worked for few years. Then I decided to study in Melbourne as my sister just settle down there. I  spent 3.5yr and got my degree plus meet my future husband when we were in school.

I came back to HK after graduate and my  boyfriend (at that time) follow me after he graduated 6mths later. We spend another 4yrs in HK and migrate to Canada. It is not easy to settle down in Canada as we have no one here. We work very hard at the beginning and after 4yrs here, we pretty much settle down. We went back to HK last month and my husband was crying when he got on the plane to come back to Canada.

there is no perfect land on earth and we are happy about our decision.  We love to live  in Canada but we miss the convenience of being to live in HK. We make less money but instead we have more time on family life. From my personal point of view, getting a career is my priority and that's why we choose Canada.

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-2-29 00:27

home stay from Uni, 係housing department (Uni)挑選架..
你講嗰啲係share house ??

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-2-27 01:37 PM 發表
homestay family 係咪全部經過挑選架？
我聽聞有些是一間屋，有成三四個學生一齊住，好似租屋咁，只係包三餐和住宿，咁咪無哂 family feel lor？ ...

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-2-29 00:36

原文章由 xother 於 08-2-28 03:04 發表
I dont think we should regret on our decision on immigration. It is our choice and I take responsible on my decision.
Let me introduce myself. I grown up in HK and after finished F5, I worked for few ...

如果我的家人(包括爸媽哥姊)和幾個要好的朋友都可以和我一起移民，我相信我都會喜歡外國悠閒的生活。
我依戀的是家人、朋友，不是香港！

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-2-29 00:48

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-2-29 00:27 發表
home stay from Uni, 係housing department (Uni)挑選架..
你講嗰啲係share house ??

唔係！
係有d homestay 為賺錢，一間屋有成三四個海外生，好似包租咁，又無咩家庭樂咁囉！

作者: xother 時間: 08-2-29 01:43

virgokaren,

From you response below, it sounds very childish, are you very young?
I miss my friends and family too, but I know there is no perfect land to live. I choose what I think is right and I think I can find my friends again in new place.

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-2-29 12:36 AM 發表

如果我的家人(包括爸媽哥姊)和幾個要好的朋友都可以和我一起移民，我相信我都會喜歡外國悠閒的生活。
我依戀的是家人、朋友，不是香港！

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-3-1 02:53

原文章由 xother 於 08-2-29 01:43 發表
virgokaren,
From you response below, it sounds very childish, are you very young?
I miss my friends and family too, but I know there is no perfect land to live. I choose what I think is right and I ...

Ha~Ha~Ha~我思想係幾childish架！

我個人最失敗係好多野都放吾低囉！
我會好掛住佢地架！！！

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-1 04:39

我反而冇諗咁多.. 自已有自己個家.. 老公小朋友... 有時間不如諗吓family day 去邊...
homesick.. 可能單身喺墨爾本時會有... 而家.. online 同家人通話嘅時間都唔多.. 我會留返心情 take care好個家... 結緍生子已去咗另一個stage... 我巳經冇contact 以前嘅friends lu.. 話題都唔同.. 人要成長嘅呢...

xother,
個啲唔係真正嘅home stay.. 係share house 咋..
我以前讀英文班都有同學住過, 有啲share house唔包餐添...
個啲平好多呢...

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-2-29 01:53 PM 發表

Ha~Ha~Ha~我思想係幾childish架！
我個人最失敗係好多野都放吾低囉！
我會好掛住佢地架！！！

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-1 06:40

Nille_mami,

Yes, I agree with you...."我會留返心情 take care好個家." Since I have my own kids, my life is very different from before.

virgokaren,
Eventhough you were in HK, you may say better to freeze the past as school life are much happier. Long distance call is so convenience and I dont feel much differnet to keep in touch with my family and friends.

Regarding homestay, it is not compulsory to have family feel, right? My cousin was in a homestay which only provide fast food as the owner is a nurse and she has no time to cook. The reason they accept student because she want her daughter to have accompany. I think people has different reason and I think it will be very lucky to stay in Nile_mami homestay!
I think since the real estate are getting higher and higher, people are seeking way to pay their mortgage. Personally I dont like to have stranger to stay in my house and even when I was in Melbourne for 3yrs, I never thought to go to any homestay. I was living with my sister for the first year and move out to live by myself. I am more keen to live independent as I can learn how to take care of myself and I can more concentrate on studying. I can be more relax to bring my friends during school break and watch my own TV in order to learn English.

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-1 04:39 AM 發表
我反而冇諗咁多.. 自已有自己個家.. 老公小朋友... 有時間不如諗吓family day 去邊...
homesick.. 可能單身喺墨爾本時會有... 而家.. online 同家人通話嘅時間都唔多.. 我會留返心情 take care好個家... 結緍生子已 ...

[ 本文章最後由 xother 於 08-3-1 07:05 編輯 ]

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-3 00:57

我都係讀英文班時住homestay, 到上大學就租屋(揀melbourne, 因為生活費平, 生活平淡, 加上間大學係冇咁多唐人.. 當年我仲係第一個oevrseas student 讀佢undergraduate degree program)..
share house with 3個Asian 女仔.. 架妹, 泰妹同韓妹... 同佢哋share house, 勝在大家asian, dinner 易manage(餐餐唔同菜), 但又冇得講cantonese, melbourne share house時, 家電有人share, 皮費平好多..
after 3 years (as final year 我應professor 要求而搬入master lounge方便出clinical同出埠做研習).. 嗰3年真係好正.. finally, 大家都學識對方嘅母語, 雖然唔精, 但可以溝通到呢..
佢哋飛去HK, 就住我屋企, 我去日本泰國玩, 都住佢哋屋企..
最開心到我嫁時, 日本,台灣, 澳洲, norway 同其他地方嘅friends都飛嚟HK做伴娘同飲我哋嗰餐..
出國留學, 有心識朋友, 係可以相識滿天下.. 呢啲係好好嘅人生閱歷呢...

原文章由 xother 於 08-2-29 05:40 PM 發表
Nille_mami,

Yes, I agree with you...."我會留返心情 take care好個家." Since I have my own kids, my life is very different from before.

virgokaren,
Eventhough you were in HK, you may say better to ...

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-3 07:28

Hi NillieMami,
Just wonder what reason to bring you to America? Are you working now?
Although I graduated from Melbourne I dont like to live there and that's the reason I chose to come to Canada. In fact, I only come here because of my husband, otherwise, I am very happy to be just in HK.

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-3 10:36

Xother,
我自己就好鐘意melbourne, 嗰種與世無爭嘅生活.. 如果唔係SARs, 我會喺Melbourne 生Amanda, 喺我鐘意嘅醫院工作..
就係一塲沙士... 個越南patient admit咗... 而我就大緊肚.. 老公喺NYC 知道, 好担心...咪立即入紙I-130 "的"我返NYC..
唉! 好好哋... 留喺melbourne, 有midwife, 有friends, 姑姐等家人又會由HK, sydney 落嚟take care我.. 當時真係唔想去美國, 但US.. 始終係老公個家... 我冇得揀..
however, 我就冇諗過返HK.. 因為唔適合小朋友生活呢.
而家都係做老本行..姑娘.. 但一個月返13曰巳係full time.. 好有彈性..工作量俾喺HK做姑娘時低,但人工就at least一個 double..

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-2 06:28 PM 發表
Hi NillieMami,
Just wonder what reason to bring you to America? Are you working now?
Although I graduated from Melbourne I dont like to live there and that's the reason I chose to come to Canada. In ...

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-2 21:44 編輯 ]

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-3 13:42

Nillemami,
It seems you and your husband were away from each other when you were pregant. Just curious how you meet your husband and how you two manage your marriage?

It is true Melbourne is a beautiful place to live, but not to work there as personally I feel they are very racist.

What year you were in Melbourne and which university you were in? Where did you live before? I was in Melbourne between 95-98 and lived in Box Hill.

Do you need to re-qualify yourself to work in US? Yes, it is true in general working in America makes most money, but you also pay alot on medical insurance. That's why my boss open an office in Canada to serve our US clients and that's why you see me posting in US forum.

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-3 10:36 AM 發表
Xother,
我自己就好鐘意melbourne, 嗰種與世無爭嘅生活.. 如果唔係SARs, 我會喺Melbourne 生Amanda, 喺我鐘意嘅醫院工作..
就係一塲沙士... 個越南patient admit咗... 而我就大緊肚.. 老公喺NYC 知道, 好担心...咪立 ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-4 00:51

Xother,
I was in La Trobe University (Bundoora campus) at 1999.
I live around Preston and reservoir .. very close to university.. for me, I don't find them races.. may be.. my neigthourhood are most italian.. and they like us very much..
3 asian girls, student hard, quiet..
I met my husband years ago, from friends, and he got some of his garment business in Melbourne.. I was the driver when I don't need to go to work in Nursing home at weekend.. so I drove my friend, her sister and my husband all around in Melbourne.. to st kilda, to Philip island.. everywhere.
We did not meet all the time even we married. but we did call each other when we go to bed or when we wake up.. (14 hours time zone)
As he has his business in NYC and his family here in NYC for 30 years .. And me.. in Melbourne for a while.. I love my place.. we plan to have our child in Melbourne.. my friends and family surround me.. my pregnancy was great, just miss my husband a lot.. so we chat on MSN, icq, phone calls a lot. he came and visited me when I was sick in melbourne... and he was very caring me..
I don't think that long distance is an issue.. unless, both of the couple got excuse already.
When I came to NYC, I took the NCLEX-RN exam.. and passed it.. then I work as a Nurse as usual..
Medical insurance.. for nursing.. we had the best health insurance and even have our whole family coverage, I don't need to pay for meds at all.. even for MD visit, if I made appointment, I don't need to pay, only when I walk in, I got some co-pay, that's it..

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-3 12:42 AM 發表
Nillemami,
It seems you and your husband were away from each other when you were pregant. Just curious how you meet your husband and how you two manage your marriage?

It is true Melbourne is a beauti ...

[ 本文章最後由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-3 12:00 編輯 ]

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-4 06:48

Nilliemami,
Did you have your wedding in Melbourne when you are working in hospital? Do you think you will go back to Australia as you may have better future in Australia? Or kids will be better to grow up there? Plus Australia has longer vacation compare to US.

It seems happen very fast from knowing your husband, marry to having your child. Did you plan it happen so fast or it is just an accident?

I realise there is lots of Aussie to work in US and Canada, does it apply to your field? I guess the paid is higher in US and lucky you dont need to pay for any medical insurance. My colleague who pay almost $1000/month just for that.

[ 本文章最後由 xother 於 08-3-4 07:50 編輯 ]

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-4 23:54

Xother,
date for 1-2 years then get married is average la..
we had our wedding in hk, so all friends could gather together.. Melbourne wasn't the good location for our wedding because it is too far for my friends from european countries, UK, and US.. Hong kong was the best location.
We do plan to go back to Melbourne, because me and my hubby love there.. and that is my place where I consider it as my home town..
the green, the air.. which can't be compare with HK or in NYC.. (although, staten island looks a bit like Melbourne, but.. people are not that friendly)
yeh.. if I have to buy the same family health insurance, it cost USD$1385 per month.. but my employer paid for us.

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-3 05:48 PM 發表
Nilliemami,
Did you have your wedding in Melbourne when you are working in hospital? Do you think you will go back to Australia as you may have better future in Australia? Or kids will be better to gr ...

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-5 07:23

nilliemami,
Just wonder do you have Aussie passport ? It seems you have quite settle down in States. If you really consider to go back, when you think is best? It is not easy to move from one country to another especially when you have 2 kids

作者: Goody 時間: 08-3-5 09:21

Hello Nillie,

Have you been to other States in the southern part? To me NYC is a not a very good place to live in, especially China Town, it reminded me of the old 九龍城寨. I think all big sities are similar that people are cool. I went to college in the mid-South, it was a beautiful place and the people there were more simple and nice.

I visited Melbourne and Sydney several times for business trips and I found that they looked very much like the States, only that the foods were much better

However, I worked with Austrialians and found not very nice experience.

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-4 23:54 發表
Xother,
date for 1-2 years then get married is average la..
we had our wedding in hk, so all friends could gather together.. Melbourne wasn't the good location for our wedding because it is too far fo ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-14 00:03

Goody,
really depends on which part of NYC you have visited..
for chinatown, I don't go much..
I live in staten island, in our neighbourhood, we are the only HongKee.. all white surround us in our suburb, very "country feel", clean and comfortable.
For the southern part.. you mean Maryland and other states, yes.. I have been there couples of time. Staten island is just like those states.

Hum.. in Australia, that is their culture, and may be also, people with stereotype.. if you get used to their culture, understand the way they used to communicate.. I feel so comfortable to be there and to be one of them.
I stayed in Australia for almost 7 years, I feel like.. I can quite fit in..
Hey we all growth up in hong kong, should able to fit into any countries any places.
香港人能屈能伸, 天生出嚟係遇強越強..
我爸爸講過... 只有你唔想去/唔想留低喺嗰個地方, 你就會揾到excuse 話嗰喥唔好.. 所以, 我會努力去揾我留低嘅原因同好處, 做人正面同積極啲好啲, 與其呻話島入面冇karaoke, 冇夜市,夜生活, 唐餐... 我會enjoy 晚晚自己煮, 環境靚, 乾淨, 啲人好nice and warmth..

原文章由 Goody 於 08-3-4 08:21 PM 發表
Hello Nillie,

Have you been to other States in the southern part? To me NYC is a not a very good place to live in, especially China Town, it reminded me of the old 九龍城寨. I think all big sities ...

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-14 11:56

Nille,
If you have such positive thinking, so why you still want to go back to Australia?

作者: kayan_329 時間: 08-3-14 15:10 標題: Canada

有冇人會係7月份去CANADA讀書O架~~(TORONTO)

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-15 03:34

xother,
I have positive thinking, doesn't mean that I don't have a choice.
Melbourne is my home town, certainly I wanna go back.
Like you guys, want to go back to hong kong.

I will not keep saying all bad things about US. Because, recently, I have to stay. it is my hubby's home town and it is a better place for my children to growth up.

Don't you have the same mind ?
that is so simple. I bet, every body who is mature, will know.. there is no perfect land. As I can't go back to Melbourne right now, why not .. to find out the beautiful side of US.. to give us a peaceful and comfy reason to stay!

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-13 10:56 PM 發表
Nille,
If you have such positive thinking, so why you still want to go back to Australia?

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-15 04:34

Nilliemami,
No, I dont have same mind as you. I know my husband will stay in Canada and from the date I applied to migrate, I know there is no return for me. I miss my family for sure but it doesnt mean I like to live in HK.

For my kids, it is hard to say where is better for them as every place has it's pros and cons. Without HK's education foundation, I may be not as good as now. Western education is too loose and I just worried my kids are getting lazy.

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-15 23:17

Xother,
I can smell the firework...
for teaching our child.. I don't rely on school.. I do it at home as well.. some fun games, for Amanda.. only 4.5 years old, writing stories, letters, make a word.. that is cool games for her.
As you still have 2 months to stay at home.. you can simply make some exercises for her to do when you return to work.
for recent, I got no where to go.. stuck in US is the only solution.
about the education, as your child is so independent, you can send her to hong kong for the summer camp as you did before, for the rest, you just buy extra home work for her lor..

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-14 03:34 PM 發表
Nilliemami,
No, I dont have same mind as you. I know my husband will stay in Canada and from the date I applied to migrate, I know there is no return for me. I miss my family for sure but it doesnt me ...

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-16 15:51

Nilliemami,
I see the firework as sparkling only, nothing else.
Regarding home school, you may be able to do it when your child is young. Once they are in school, it is different story. They may question you why she/he has homework while other classmates can play whole day? Besides, what can you teach them as you are not native? Western education is very different as there is no homework. Did you watch "Are you smarter than the 5th grader"? What the kids learn from western world are very different from what we learn from Asia. In fact, I like the Asia type of education as we forced to do lots of exercise and memory stuff. Personally I think there is very good foundation but it is tough. Western education is very free and personally I think it is only good on university level when the student is more mature.
No where to go?? Is US your husband's hometown? I assume you have your status there, right?
Sending my daughter to HK...she is too young to be away from me! Besides, my daughter feel bored after 1 week as she found difficulty to communicate with other kids. I dont think she likes to be there for long.
There is no perfect land to live and there is no perfect education system as well. Drugs and sex are very casual in western world and shooting is happening very often. Western kids drop out from school is very common and you will see Asian students/overseas students are doing very well in university.

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-16 16:28

Nilliemami,
Just coincident about going to Australia. I went to see the daycare today for my son and she is originated from Australia. She came here because of her husband and they had migrated back to Australia back in 90's but failed because their kids' eczema. She said she was making $3000/mth for just collecting welfare and university is free.

Just wonder if you really work in Australia? Life is very different as a student, single vs family. Have you consider if your kids have no problem to adapt to hot weather? My sister told me Melbourne is getting hotter and hotter. 37C is very often.

[ 本文章最後由 xother 於 08-3-16 16:36 編輯 ]

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-17 23:09

xother,
woo.. $3000 per month?? for Australian dollar or US dollar? also, how about the work load..?
when I was there, I was paid about $3000 aus dollar, that is a very good pay for me.. only 4-6 patient load.. which you can't bit from any other countries.
but again for salary in US.. is really high, now I earn over $6000 per month with full health benefit for whole family.
although, work load is a lot more, but it worths.
37 degree is not hot at all.. it is very dry.. in Summer at Melbourne, sometime is about 42 degree for 1-2 days a year.. that is not a big deal.. I love my bare foot walking back at forward inside university. a saloon dress.. so comfy..
whole year only a few days that you can go to swim in the beach because the water is freezing..
Yeah.. here in NYC. I am stuck.. because it is my hubby's home town, where can we go? just because we get bored, and then, go to sell the house, all investment and cars then move to another states?
we may dream about it.. but before we do it.. I would rather to consider my parent in law.. they need us. even they did not take care of us for a day. 老吾老以及人之老.. I will not leave them behind. I have already left my parents behind, I feel so gulity with that already.
Ezcema.. haha.. it happens every where. Gabriel suffers from it. kids in worldwide suffer from it.. I don't think that I will migrate to another country because of it.
For me.. I don't think that I will able to teach Amanda.. she is kind of a gifted.. so as my friend suggested, we will employ the university student to come and do the home study for her.
I will just sit back and relax, work hard and earn more money, give the best support for Amanda.

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-18 06:16

Nillie,

My nanny has 6kids and it is AUD 3000mth for just welfare plus free university. Shesaid she has such a great life in Australia but the skin problem isreally the reason to take them back to Canada. Wait Amanda to go backto HK, then you will see how the hot weather affect her. Yes, they dontmigrate to other country as they were in Canada before and since theyhave option, they chose to come back to Canada, but she also said shemiss the welfare as she barely got anything here!

How is the weather in NY? I guess it is kind of chilli, right? When I was there3.5yrs, I only experience 38C once. I never heard 42C?? I guess youmeasured it when you are under the Sun.

Feel bored? With your income, you should have a great life. Or you may say it is nothing much after taxed. We werejust middle class here but I am satisfy what we have now, a car, a houseand 2 lovely children. We just went for iceskating and swimming duringweekend and Easter egg hunting twice already, will have more to do forEaster coming. Life is very simple here and there is too much to learnin a new country. ie, taxation! We are still learning how to tackle thetax in order to get the maximum benefit. Summer is coming, I also needto plan what activities to sign for my daughter since she will be onsummer vacation. We were too busy on our daily life and barely havetime to watch TV. Weekend shopping and send my daughter to Chinese class plus some actitivities. Or I am just a simple person and just happy about what I have.

Amanda is just above 4, is it too young to say she is "gifted"? Justwonder what did she do in order for you to think she is gifted?

作者: kidslittle1 時間: 08-3-19 09:37

有冇人後悔到外國留學或移民???

I finished my study in Canada a long time ago, but then I got married and settled in the UK. No, I don't regret. I don't think I studied abroad in the past or have immigrated to other country now should regret. Study abroad or immigrate to other country is another experience in your life, so people should enjoy life in that country. If really one day you dislike that country, you may go any place you like. Why needs to regret? Ha!

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-19 10:59

Xother,
yeah! at 2000 and 2001, the temperature in Melbourne ran up to 42C.. and many elderly were found dead at home..

In NYC, weather much worse than in Melbourne.. at least, in winter, Melbourne won't snow.

that is good, enjoy life in Canada. I don't think that kids in HK will be happier than our kids. especially when I think about those 中中嘅學生... 做晒governement 嘅白老鼠..
I don't even dare to think about it.

Amanda... was recommended by the coming school( she will attend K this year but teacher would like her to skip 1/2 year of pre K and 1/2 year of K and go strick to Grade 1 this Sept) we refused. we only agree to let her take the GATE, if she is clarified as gifted, this Sept, she will attend the special school, even not, her coming school teacher is going to give her special care (as the teacher got children like Amanda). she is a trouble maker.. but she is only 4.5 years old, we wish to keep her in her soical group.. All her classmates are older than her, but she is happy.
now she can count up to 2008, ２位加數減數, 讀story, 作story.. under her requested, we finally set up her piano class from last saturday and we bought her the very first piano today. I hope, that will help her to use up some of her energy beside her music class, ballet class and gym class after school.
I already felt gulity that I went back to work and I can't spend more time for her.

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-17 05:16 PM 發表
Nillie,

My nanny has 6kids and it is AUD 3000mth for just welfare plus free university. Shesaid she has such a great life in Australia but the skin problem isreally the reason to take them back to Ca ...

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-19 15:09

Nilliemami,

wow...I really didnt pay attention and 42C is really high! How you survive those days? Did you have air conditioning? I guess New York wont get that hot, right?

Yes, I do enjoy my life as I have a very good husband. I am just a simple C9 and happy to see him having a fair chance to develop his career here. Regarding on school in HK, I dont think they are that bad and I wont say kids are not happy in HK. It sounds like "Moon is better in western world"! What I see about being HK kids, parents are competiting to get into good schools and kids are suffered because of that. Other than that, HK kids are well train work under pressure and their brain can think very fast if compare to western kids.

You mean Amanda taking the GATE? Is it suppose for older kids? I am not sure if it is common in western world or schools are lack of funding, they do put kids into higher grade regardless. ie, K1 kids mix with G1. G2 mix with G3. I dont think it is a problem for Amanda to get to G1, especially if she is ready to that level. You mentioned she has given too much problems, what is it? Talk too much? Disturb other kids?

Just wonder are you going to teach Amanda Chinese, I mean writing?
For school, do you have good school in your area? I dont know anything about your area, but it sounds very remote to me, is it? Is it like Discovery Bay in HK which you need to take ferry? Have you ever thought to move out in order to find a better school?

[ 本文章最後由 xother 於 08-3-19 15:19 編輯 ]

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-19 15:15

kidslittle1,
Not everyone has positive thinking like you and that's why this topic was formed. I can see many people do regret but they just not posting here.
Yes, it is a decision we made in life and there is no point to regret.

章由 kidslittle1 於 08-3-19 09:37 AM 發表

有冇人後悔到外國留學或移民???

I finished my study in Canada a long time ago, but then I got married and settled in the UK. No, I don't regret. I don't think I studied abroad in the past or have imm ... [/quote]

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-20 02:31

Xother,
I don't know anything about the GATE, Amanda was recommended by the catholic school teacher, so we took her to take the exam, GATE is started from 4 years old, and Amanda turns 4 at Jan, so the teacher suggested her to take it. We lived in the best school zone in Staten island(the reason why we buy this house), so sure no problem to find a school for Amanda, but my husband insisted to send her to catholic school because they will be very strict and lots of homework.
42C is very hot, but if you stay at home with air cond. or go to the beach, that is really a good relief in melbourne.
In new york, at summer time, it always hit 100F.. and really feeling always over 100F.. but I found that is fine for me and my kids.. Amanda loves summer, and she always have her tanned skin.. haha.. because she runs outdoor all the time.
Although it is hot in Melbourne and NYC, but it is not humid as in hk.. so that is fine.. how about in Canada?
Amanda sometimes got timeout at school .. haha.. because she plays too WILD.. she even able to knock the big kids down.. because she is big.. like on Monday, she was a good job girl in the morning, and she got the chocolate from teacher, but at music class, she played too wild, she got timeout lor.. haha she will tell us everything what happened at school, she even told me, glad that she ate the chocolate at play time, she was afraid, teacher may take it back from her.. you see.. a 4.5 years old girl will tell you something like that..
about teaching her chinese.. I am not good with that.. I am really bad with chinese.. I don't want to be a bad model for her, she better learns it when she goes to HK at summer time. anyway, she only interested in speaking cantonese and mandarin (learn from the program Kai lan online), she doesn't interest in the word.. I am not going to push her.
I believe in Montessori's method, Amanda should learn everything from experience, chinese is not that important for her right now. she is only 4.. let her manage her Russian, spanish and English.. chinese is just something for her to talk to her grandparents, and show off in front of her little friends at school.

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-19 02:09 AM 發表
Nilliemami,

wow...I really didnt pay attention and 42C is really high! How you survive those days? Did you have air conditioning? I guess New York wont get that hot, right?

Yes, I do enjoy my life ...

作者: kidslittle1 時間: 08-3-20 09:14 標題: 回覆 #83 xother 的文章

xother,

Yes, I do think my thinking is so positive. In my opinion, it's our own decision we made, so we should not regret what we have done. I was lucky that my parent got a house and could take care of me when I was studying in Canada in the past. So, I did enjoy my studying life over there.

On the contrary, I dislike the education system in HK now(teach in Chinese if the students can't be accepted by English school). It seems that many parents are so nervous to apply for good schools for their children. So, pressure and competition are coming up. I think kids and parents get so much pressure too. Also, I can't stand for air pollution in HK. My sister's children who live in HK always go to see doctors because of flu or other diseases. She got few kids, so she said seeing doctors so many times really make her lose much money. I know that some of my friends are also saving money for their children to study abroad in the future too. Sometimes, it's quite interesting that one of my friends regretted to stay in Canada in the past and then she went back to HK after her study. When she is in HK now, she starts to regret why she came back to HK and plans to go back to Canada again in the future. It just likes a cycle. Maybe, she will regret again later.

[ 本文章最後由 kidslittle1 於 08-4-17 07:36 編輯 ]

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-20 14:46

kidslittle1,
I am not sure what is your reason to migrate to UK, but I think if you have to give up all your money or career and found out the life is not easy at overseas, then you may look back and question why you made such a decision. Yes, it is our decision but if all people keep saying how great to live overseas and how wonderful to bring up our children, then more people will fall in the trap. Moon is exactly the same whenever you look! There is no perfect land to live or study and the best place to live is the place you can get your career and made money.

Nilliemami,
Just wonder if you have second opinion from other teacher at other school? I can understand if you test a Grade 3 student but what you can do for a 4yrs old girl ? Is it too early to test? I google it and it said the best is grade 3 or 4 when kids are more developed and tend to be more accurate.

Vancouver is a cold place, but it is the warmest among Canada. We do have snow about twice a year and summer is about 80F or less. It is rare to see house has aircon and summer time has very long long sunlight, from 4am to 9pm and very low humidity..about 50%.

Is it normal for kids to knock out each other in States? I asked my daughter and she said no one ever fight in school. Yes, kids do got time out but usually it is because they do some naugty thing...ie, disturbing others while in the class or talk too much. Just wonder what did you say to her about being time out by teacher? Will you correct her for such behavior?

Regarding learning Chinese. I guess your Chinese is not bad at all. If you can teach her Chinese as same as how you teach her on English and maths, then she may already writing letter to grandparent!

I saw you mention Amanda very often, but how about your son? I guess he must be very active at this age, right? Does Amanda like to knock him down as well?

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-21 00:24

Kidlittle1,
100% agree with you.. if you chose to study abroad, should better not feeling regret, personally, I have no regret at all.. it is wonderful life experience.

Xother,
I don't really care what they did to Amanda for the GATE, that is the exam from the Department of Education, if the expert believes that 4 years old can be able to show the talent, therefore they have the exam for them.
For some child with mis-behavior, you gonna time out them, for some, you need to ignore them.
For Amanda, we talked to her, why she did that, and is that right for her to do so. she is 4.5 years old, when she has time out, she knows she made a mistake.
When she knocks the others down, she doesn't even know she did it.. haha.. she certainly knock down Gabriel all the times at home.. then, she will give him a hug and kiss.. as she doesn't mean to.. she is a very sweet girl with a very warmth heart.. therefore, her friends love her so much at school. Amanda doesn't fight with anyone.. she doesn't need to. their teachers are very strict, no kid dare to make big trouble.. only Amanda.. sometimes.. she thinks too fast and advance, and she may do something different from the others..
my lil one is still young, not causing any trouble.. compare with his sister, he is a really normal child..
Sure.. every one said that I do care more about Amanda.. because she reaches school age. that is normal.
once my lil one reaches the school age.. it will be his turn.
both of babies are 75% of my life.. (I leave 25% for my hubby la).. therefore, in real life.. I set up play group every month, sometimes every 2 weeks, invite most of the BK mom from new york and new jersey to come and share our experience.
Chinese.. not an issue for Amanda right now.. I would like to wait until she interested in.
nowaday.. after she finished her homework, she needs to practise piano.. and she is so happy about it.. 2 more songs to practise before next class..
when a child learns something which she loves it and interests in.. you can see.. it is a pleasure. not like the kids in hk.
wanna see Amanda's funny movie.. hee hee.. after she learns ballet for 6 months, we took an video.. which made us laugh with tears.. haha

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-20 01:46 AM 發表
kidslittle1,
I am not sure what is your reason to migrate to UK, but I think if you have to give up all your money or career and found out the life is not easy at overseas, then you may look back and ...

作者: kidslittle1 時間: 08-3-21 09:20

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-20 14:46 發表
kidslittle1,
I am not sure what is your reason to migrate to UK, but I think if you have to give up all your money or career and found out the life is not easy at overseas, then you may look back and ...

Xother,

The reason why I have settled in the UK is because my husband lives in the UK from the time when he was few years old and he has a job which he works for a long time here.  Yes, I gave up my career in HK and came here.  I still remembered I came here during the period of SARS and I could occupy three seats on a CX flight.  Yes, some people went to other countries and they will not regret but some will regret.  It depends on their real situation or ability of fitting in another place.  BTW, do you have any regret at all? I know that Canada is a competitive place.  One of my friends who immigrated to Canada with her family in 1988.  Her sisters and brothers can work for good companies but she couldn't find a decent job there.  Later, she got some mental problem.  I felt sad to know that she wanted to commit suicide one day and she told me she is on treatment now.  Last time, I asked her about any regret of her immigrated decision.  She answered me: NO, it's because Canadian government treats her illness very well.
My relative owns a restaurant in Canada.  There were only few that kind of restaurants twenty years ago, but now that kind of restaurants are everywhere in Canada.  Don't you think it's a competitive world???  In order to survive, you have to compete with others.
Yes, there's no perfect land in the world.  Not only such kinds of things happen in overseas, but also happen in HK too.  I know you love HK. I also love the past HK but now I love HK lesser than before.  Some unhappy things happened when I went back to HK last year.  1.  I visited my relatives in HK last year for one month.  My relatives moved to another place where I didn't really sure the location. I was pushing my daughter's pushchair and asked two people about the directions, but they ignored me and run very fast away...just looked like I was invisible.  At that time, I thought why they were so impolite.  Then I phoned my relatives on the street and talked very loudly that I couldn't find where she lived.  At last, I thought an old woman heard what I said.  She suddenly talked to me and showed me where the direction was.  I talked with her and she told me that some people asked for directions and those people who answered them got unconscious and lost all their belongings.  It's unbelievable as I was pushing an infant's stroller at that time.    2.  When my sister, me and my daughter who I was holding her stroller in a cabin of a MTR.  Suddenly, a woman who spoke Mandarin walked from another cabin came to us and asked my sister to let her take my daughter's photo (she thought my sister was my daughter's mother, btw, my sister doesn't know much Mandarin).  I answered her NO (in Mandarin)...but she kept asking my sister to let her take photo and said my daughter looked like her daughter and she wanted to take my daughter's photo to let her daughter had a look.  Then, I was very angry and said NO.  She left and walked to a group of women. Around seven or more people I think.  They all looked very angry at us.  I talked to my sister and she said they might be the group of people who cheated people about what wrong of my daughter and asked for money to buy medicine. Other than that, I don't think anyone will let a stranger suddenly comes and takes a photo of you.  Also, my baby was facing my sister's legs, how could the person saw my daugther's appearance.  It's really a question.  3.  When my sister, me and my daughter travelled to Tung Chung, we walked on a pedestrian path and there were a lot of people walking.  Not a quiet place.  Suddenly, three guys who looked like mixed walked facing us and half surrounding us and stopped.  They didn't say anything but looked like a bit scared.  My sister and me were talking but we were very sensitive to things.  My sister was very scared, then she walked through the gap very fast and I also strongly pushed my baby's stroller faster and ran away from another gap.  When I looked back later, I found that they stopped at that place and looked at us from that distance.  It seemed that there was a forth guy walking around that area too.  I think they thought that we were talking on the road and couldn't concentrate what they would do.  One day, when we bought something from a jewellery shop and I talked about that.  The shopkeeper said they may be some pickpockets from Xinchiang.  Some of them looked like mixed.

Maybe, some people may not have such experience but I am really unlucky that I only stayed for one month in HK and such things happened to me.  Anyway, I am lucky that nothing really bad happened during that period.  Thanks god.

[ 本文章最後由 kidslittle1 於 08-4-17 07:43 編輯 ]

作者: kidslittle1 時間: 08-3-21 09:30

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-21 00:24 發表
Kidlittle1,
100% agree with you.. if you chose to study abroad, should better not feeling regret, personally, I have no regret at all.. it is wonderful life experience.

Xother,
I don't really care wh ...

Nillie_Mami,

Yes, studying abroad was a great experience to us. Actually, people like to have a challenge and get more experience in their life should have a try. Study abroad is not a bad idea in my point of view. As for immigration or not, it depends on which living style would suitable to them most. It's really hard to say good or bad at all, but I disagree what Xother said it's a trap. Not that serious. Ha!

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-21 15:39

kidslittle1,
I dont regret to migrate as it is my husband's dream to come to Canada. I just accompanish his dream and be his supporter. Let me tell you my story. I met my husband when we were in Australia back in 1997 and I left him after graduation. He came to HK after 6mths and we get married. He is Indian and he has hard time to get a job as well as daily life due to racism against him. Anyway, I agree to migrate as I can see him suffered in HK. I didnt choose Australia as I dont like there and appreciated he didnt against my wish, however, till now he still miss Melbourne!! We have no extend family in Canada and the worst, my husband never been to Canada. Anyway, we came with my daughter with 4 big suitcases and stay at the hotel when we landed. My daughter was 10mths old at that time and we struggle to survive. Imagine how hard to travel with a baby and we were totally new to Canada.

Once we settle down and rent a place, we sent out thousand of resume. Very lucky, I got a job within three month and my husband got it in 4mth..next problem, find a daycare. Everyday is a racing day for us as we have no car!

Competitive? It is competitive every where. The worst thing about migration is no one recognised your qualification and working experience. We were just lucky to get a job and move up our life, otherwise, we may be the one complaining how bad to migrate to Canada...hahaha!

May be it is too harsh to use the word "trap" but why people migrate? Please except yourself as you have no choice(I mean it is normal for you to join the husband due to his job situation). Many of them will say..."doing that because of my children". Many of them are not familiar with the life to live overseas. Most of them are middle to higher class and they cannot adapt to new country as there are too much misconception as well as sterotype about western education.

If I describle life is a journey, you are very lucky as you have the map already and you just need to follow the way. There are many people has no map like me and we have to find our way out.

Nilliemami,

Just wondering if I understand correctly about being "knock down", is it similar to wrestling which Amanda pyically push down another boy or girl? Will that hurt? And she only got time out for such behavior?

I have a 10mth son and 5yr old daughter and very often, I feel guilty because I dont spend enough time with my school age daughter! I thought the younger cause more trouble while older one can understand what is right or wrong. I do think you really favor Amanda as she is smarter. Just wonder when did you realised her talent?

From what I learn from your posting, I feel that Amanda is quite busy. She has to go to a private school which is very strict and lots of homework, then home school with university student, then she needs to attend gym, ballet and practice piano. Speak English to you, Spanish to daddy and Cantonese to grandparent, plus Russian, Mandarin and attend GATE exam. I wish you didnt prepare her for that. What is different from a HK kid?

If you dont mind, I am curious to know if your net salary is higher or lower compare to similar position in HK? How about the workload, more or less? How about school fee for kindergarten? Do you need to pay deposit and how much ?

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-21 22:34

kidslittle1,
same here again.. haha.. seems, we are on the same boat.. haha.. My husband just exactly like your hubby.
we met each other for a while.. that time, I still stayed with my ex-bf.. my hubby is just my friend. he is kind of quiet and just wait at the corner for me. until I went to australia for studies. arrange married doesn't work on that situation, so we broke up, end up, my hubby kept coming over from NYC to do his business (actually, he came to visit me and kept my time occupied.) and after almost 2 years.. he kept propose to me.. I agreed..
I told myself, I growth up in hk, and I should able to overcome with the stress to stay in a new place.. NYC is my hubby's home town.. as I am married, I am willing to stay and adapt the life here.

Xother,
I guess.. you kind of misunderstand what is happening here.
From what I learn from your posting, I feel that Amanda is quite busy. She has to go to a private school which is very strict and lots of homework, then home school with university student,
she is in day care right now, and will attend private school this sept if she doesn't get a seat in Gifted program, then we will hire an university student to do home study for her. as you said. I am not a native, how can I teach her to do her homework??
then she needs to attend gym, ballet and practice piano.
All music class, ballet class, gym class occur at 4pm to 5:30pm after school. she is the one who requested to attend it, we did not insist to let her go, you know how much we have to pay beside the school fee, that is not cheap at all.
Speak English to you, Spanish to daddy and Cantonese to grandparent, plus Russian, Mandarin and attend GATE exam.
yup, she speak Cantonese and English with me, cantonese, english, spanish with dad, cantonese with 62,99, and my parents, she does speak russian, spanish, and english at school (she is the one who requested to take the extra spanish class after school). about mandarin, she only learn it from ni hao Kai lan program, she likes it and follow what they say.. she doesn't really "put a foot" into it yet.
GATE is recommended by the current school teacher and the private school teacher. just a test in one of the morning and that is finished at Jan already. still waiting for the result.
I wish you didnt prepare her for that. What is different from a HK kid?
one thing is different between Amanda and kids in hk..
is .. all those activities are requested by Amanda..
not like the kids in hk, they are pushed to study because they need to fight and their parents want to compare their kids with others.
My lil Amanda learns everything on her own wish, she wants to learn piano since she was 3. but we did not let her learn it as she was so young.
now, every lesson, she learns 2 new songs every times, her teacher said that she is very smart too. the second lesson, she knows what is bit.
If you dont mind, I am curious to know if your net salary is higher or lower compare to similar position in HK?
net salary... haha, I have never counted that at all.. that is really new concept for me.. as we have tax return.. don't know how much is it. Certainly, salary is higher than in hk and work load is lower than in hk.
How about the workload, more or less? How about school fee for kindergarten?
School fee for Amanda..
Day care is $600, ballet class $150, Piano class $75, Gym class $25, Music class $50.
Do you need to pay deposit and how much ?
dear.. what is deposit.. what do you mean by that??

about her talent, since she was 10 months, the gymboree play group teacher told me that she is different. but I don't really pay any attention to it. until she attends day care when she was 2, on the next day, principle told me, Amanda in 3 years old class.. they said that she is too smart, she knows things. since then, once she reaches another level, principle got our permit to send Amanda to the next class. Now, she plays with the pre-K friends, studies some subjects with K students( her work books for 5 -6 years old). we get used to it.. and I have never known anything about Gifted before (until we took her for kindergarten interview this Jan).

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-21 02:39 AM 發表
kidslittle1,
I dont regret to migrate as it is my husband's dream to come to Canada. I just accompanish his dream and be his supporter. Let me tell you my story. I met my husband when we were in Austr ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-21 22:37

Xother,
about the knocking down other kids, doesn't really HURT.. haha.. she got time out.. is a correct decision, because she needs to learn to be a fair lady.
she studies in a Russian day care, not an American school. disciplant is very important. rule is very strict.

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-21 02:39 AM 發表
kidslittle1,
I dont regret to migrate as it is my husband's dream to come to Canada. I just accompanish his dream and be his supporter. Let me tell you my story. I met my husband when we were in Austr ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-21 23:38

之前病咗.. 老公去唐人超市買咗"柚子蜜".. 以前我病, 係我爸爸買俾我沖水飲.. 而家老公代勞.. 突然好掛住佢老人家..
Xother,
唔好覺得好多人移民係以為外國好啲, 好多人移民係reunion嘅呢.
見你個個message 咁怒氣沖沖, 死好多細胞架

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-21 09:37 AM 發表
Xother,
about the knocking down other kids, doesn't really HURT.. haha.. she got time out.. is a correct decision, because she needs to learn to be a fair lady.
she studies in a Russian day care, not ...

作者: xother 時間: 08-3-22 20:09

Nilliemami,

I guess.. you kind of misunderstand about me. I am not angrynor upset at all. Or Why should I?
I amjust telling you my story and how I struggle in life.

I am not sure if it is coincident, my daughter also went todaycare which run by Eastern European and Spanish ladies. They also hireChinese ladies and I can hear Chinese and Spanish very often, however,it doesn’t mean my daughter is learning all languages there as for kids level,they all speak English. Yes, they will teach them to sing some songs which arein Chinese or Spanish, but it doesn’t mean my daughter can speak Spanish andChinese. Or I should say it??

Regarding of discipline, I never seen kids doing any wrestling in daycare. Besides hugging, I dont find any excuse for them to have any close inter-action? Or Canada and American have different way of bring up kids?

In the past, I also put my daughter in ballet, gym, piano,swimming, golf, trampoline, jazz.....as long as I have time and money.
I finish work by 4pm but by the time I reachdaycare, it is already 5pm and I need to cook.....put her in sleep by 10pm. Atthat time, I only have my daughter as my son is not yet born. All those activitiesare in weekend and mostly courses are just 10 sessions of time or golf is only2 sessions. On top of it, I struggle to put her for Chinese class and becauseof that, I have to pull her out from Chinese for 1 semester as I want her toenjoy what she likes to learn.

What made you think HK kids are suffered with all those activities?
In the past my daughter loves to ask meto buy toys whenever she saw it on TV and does it mean I have to buy it all? Iwish I could. In reality, I have to screen what I can afford and what is goodfor her. It applies to extra curriculum as well. I screen what she reallyinterested and narrow down what I can afford. Currently she is doing herChinese class and will sign her up for swimming class soon.

Home school? In here, it means you teach your child at homerather than attending school as some parent believe they are better teacher.However, you have different interpretation, another word of tutor and from myeyes, it is no different from kids in HK.
I can understand tutor when they are older butnot in kindergarten level? Besides, your husband is native and he should beable to give her guidance, right?

We all know taxes are very high in western world and in Canada, it isstarted around 30% and higher if salary is higher. From a migrant’s point ofview, I like to compare if I can make more or less. I ask net income becausethat is the actual income you can spend. Yes, we all get tax return, but howmuch you can really get at the end?

Does private school ask for deposit? Or they call itvoucher, donation… it is a big lum sum of money on top of your monthly fee.

If Amanda has mixed with older kids, then it is common forher to pick up their level of knowledge. But is the daycare very big in yourarea? My daughter’s daycare is max 21kids and they all play together as
only accept kids above 30mths. In general,daycare or preschool will only separate 2 groups of kids and 2.5 – 3yrs is the lineto separate them.

You are another example of migrate through marriage. Yourlife is easy as your husband has drawn the map for you! It may be unique inStates as skill immigrants are not common and reunion is the best option formigration. In Canada,you can only use reunion for spouse or direct relatives.

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-22 21:30

woo..
you really like to compare with everything that you can.. I am so tried with those la.. Xother..
why you want to question every single point?
Amanda's day care is a school, they have kids up to Grade 5. even in Amanda's class with 28 kids (preK with 2 classes... in total.. there is over 50 kids for 4 years old class). they have kids from 2 years old thru finish PS. it is different to your daughter daycare.
they play at day care only. Amanda's one is academic. they play and they learn things. they have class which is with teacher.. not a lady. they are all licensed by NY state.
I don't think that to have a second child, then I have to take away Amanda's class..
when we plan to have a second child, we think about finance first.. we have to make sure, Amanda will able to have the same or almost the same life style. Amanda still able to attend private school, able to have a live in nanny and all our family issue. After that, we asked Amanda's permit to have another child. it is something really affect her life. we are friends.. and family. so Amanda should have the right to vote, to have a sibling or not. and she said yes.. and now, she really loves her bro.
home schooling.. I don't planned to. I don't believe that.. kids need social life. I will have a person to come to teach Amanda's homework.
I would rather when me and my hubby come home everyday, .. will have some quality time with Amanda and Gabriel.. not struggling with the homework..

Just be relax.. not just only you struggle with your life.. at least, you have your hubby sits on the same boat with you.
those parents who migrated because of their child, I would rather say "proud" of them.. because they put their child on the 1st place, not themselves.
in fact, I really feel that you are very unhappy with everything surrounding you from your words and message.. that is my personal opinion lor.
you thought my marriage is easy.. I will show you my first chinese message in BK later.. that is my real story.
but I overcome it. because I believe that I am married and NYC should be my new home town.

原文章由 xother 於 08-3-22 07:09 AM 發表
Nilliemami,

I guess.. you kind of misunderstand about me. I am not angrynor upset at all. Or Why should I?
I amjust telling you my story and how I struggle in life.

I am not sure if it is coinc ...

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-22 21:36 標題: 請一起跟我走過在紐約黑暗無助的日子

2003年6月初,那天晚上,在JFK機塲下機,提著大包小包的行李,跟在丈夫的背後,是懷着快二十七周身孕的我.,帶著有點不安和疲累的我..心想..終於到達美國了.之後便要在這裡生活,心裡帶着的只有忐忑不安四個字。
一到奶奶的家只看到被排於門外的眼光,當時已感到不妙,但我實在太累..無時間再去思索過中因由,便放下行李只帶着隨身的小衣箱和丈夫離開,心想..剛回家幹嗎又要離開,丈夫說家人話我不方便留下,所以,在新澤西州book了酒店給我 “落腳” 我心裡便明白,他們怕我有 SARS, 真無知。算吧! 住酒店怎樣說也比住奶奶家好呢!
當家居隔籬後, 丈夫說已落訂的新居還沒法入伙, 所以我們便要跟他哥哥一家五口分住一間屋, 當時我便心知不妙了。以後下來，你們可要有心理準備才好看下去呢…
日子實在難過, 因為丈夫哥哥 (二伯 )不容許我用雪櫃和厨房煮食 ,原因是他只應承給我們住, 所以不准開伙煮食和用雪櫃 , 要求呵克得很….但丈夫也答應他…原因… (又是原因啊！) 是因為以為新居可以很快入伙, 和有二嫂和我照應…實際上我是他們３小孩的無價.. (免費 )保母…
在家四個月,從來不准我配門匙，因為怕我放賊入屋，，說的話可真克薄…
8月, 小生命誕生 , 遇上美國立國以來第二次大停電 , 下身的傷口還在痛 ,又要餵人奶 (冇雪櫃用 ,唔食人奶 ,亞 B 咪餓死？) 覺得自己好殘好賤 , 連基本俾ＢＢ的有嘅生活質素，我都無法提供。
還大肚時,到奶奶家 ,丈夫必把我推入廚房, 因為奶奶愛鬧人, 開口埋口便說如果唔係佢殷淮二伯 {收容我 }, 我便要 “瞓街” ..時時提醒我 ,佢有幾關照我….一知BB係女仔就話腰骨痛 , 唔可以幫我坐月..
又唔幫我坐月, 又唔准我用廚房….到BB 出世後,丈夫只有晚晚留定隔夜飯於飯盒內… 我便等第二日日間食 , 因為唔准用爐頭 , 所以 ,生咗 BB成4個月都係食凍疍煎飯加豉油… 食到怕就食腸仔飽… 因為怕ＢＢ冇營養 , 我日日飲4公升水 (每半公升水加七匙羮葡萄糖 )..甜到苦… 體重由有 BB 前的 126磅, 到產後四個月, 只得 102 磅, 醫生話我嚴重營養不良, 唔明 BB 點解會個個禮拜增磅….紅着眼的我實在說不出口.
十二月…. 好凍..下雪了…二伯一家去旅行，竟然把暖氣關上，房內温度只有31F…攝氏零下一度…. 我和BB差點凍死….只有在房內開 warm mist 和小暖爐, 我實在支持不到了 , 男家不愛我丈夫 , 可以說是討厭他…. 因為奶奶十五出世 , 丈夫初一出世, 所以奶奶話我丈夫會一世克佢, 所有兄弟姊妹都睇唔起佢…. 但係又關我和 BB 乜嘢事？點解要咁對我同BB….？
終於 , 我留下眼淚問丈夫可唔可以搬走….咁差嘅環境我都未死….出面租屋一定冇事….
於是…我哋等二伯一家回來當日便搬走…..走時, 我同老公講…我希望由到美國至今日,
“折墮” 嘅日子會離我而去……..也告訴我老公…..你家以後發生乜事都唔好叫我幫手。我成世女都未試過咁慘. ..人哋坐月, 我坐月…連一口熱飯都冇得食….你呢世係你同你家人欠我同 BB o架!!!
但恐怖曰子仲未過, 04年父親節 , 好憎我丈夫的大姑奶上公司 , 提醒晚上要一家人食飯…在我去洗手間前, 把十個月大的囡囡放回 BB 車, 便去洗手間。那時,大姑奶便把用貓沙 (貓貓便便用的吸味沙)入的豆袋放在我女女手中, 女女便開始咬豆袋.. 十個月的ＢＢ多數都在出牙仔…幸好被大姑丈發見….. 在她被她老公駡的時侯, 我便剛回來, 一聽到對話巳嚇至半死…..好心毒手辣的大姑奶….十個月大的 BB 也不放過….
當我哭着失訴丈夫時, 怕事的他竟說多一事不如少一事, 明天送ＢＢ去醫生那裡吧！他..正一冇用鬼！
當我哭着告訴老爺時 (他是家中唯一對我和 BB好的人)..他嚇得抱着孫女看又看,第二天, 還只有他和我同 BB去看醫生呢!
老爺一句,嫁入佢家門係害, 苦, 咗我…. 我眼淚流下.. [老爺, 有多苦, 我唔怕…因為仲有你和老公對我好!!!]
現在, 有自己的家, 我又開始温書, 3月8日婦女節, 我去考紐約州蘐士執業試…新生話正式開始!

作者: Yau_Cheung 時間: 08-3-23 00:18

原文章由 Nillie_Mami 於 08-3-22 21:36 發表
2003年6月初,那天晚上,在JFK機塲下機,提著大包小包的行李,跟在丈夫的背後,是懷着快二十七周身孕的我.,帶著有點不安和疲累的我..心想..終於到達美國了.之後便要在這裡生活,心裡帶着的只有忐忑不安四個字。
一到奶奶的 ...

You are very strong!

If I were you, even I forgave them but I would not forget what they did! :;pppp:

作者: Nillie_Mami 時間: 08-3-23 01:15

yau_cheung,
日子係會過.. 我唔會俾仔女見部份老公嘅relatives to pay safe. even 99,62 都驚.. 因為佢哋宜家見到, 我2個小朋友係最有教養,乖同和善. 佢吔好錫我仔女..
老公嘅部份兄妹一有求於佢, 嚟我屋企, 我第一件事係dress up 小朋友出街. 因為佢哋會扮好メ, then "meet"我小朋友嘅面同手腳. 無必要嘅physical 接觸, 可免則免..
Amanda +Gabriel 只會同老公一個同樣被孤立嘅妹妹(因為佢嫁越南人俾99同兄弟姐妹bias)啲小朋友玩.
我巳冇嬲99, 因為老吾老以及人之老.. 佢係老公嘅媽咪..
我都想立好榜樣俾Gabriel 睇
好多過埠新娘為maintain 個family 都付出好多..
我唔認同有老公就等於有個map, 有個方向..
而家我喺NYC, set up BK gathering group, 幫所有媽咪, set up resource center 回收baby gear 同借出我有嘅物資去幫新移民or 喺NYC生BB嘅BK 媽咪, 平租去幫讀药劑學同nursing 嘅大學生, 因為我行過條艱難嘅路, 我宜家可以做嘅就係幫其他HK人(who landed in NYC)易啲落地生根

原文章由 Yau_Cheung 於 08-3-22 11:18 AM 發表

You are very strong!

If I were you, even I forgave them but I would not forget what they did! :;pppp:

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-3-23 02:52

Nillie_Mami ：

睇完你的故事，好佩服你的勇氣、毅力和胸襟呀！

作者: awah112 時間: 08-3-23 05:41

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