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作者: kannes 時間: 08-1-11 15:57 標題: ISF 弘立書院
請問ISF (弘立書院) 好唔好呀? 我睇佢WEB-SITE, 佢英普教學, 又行IB課程, any comments for this school???
作者: babyoush 時間: 08-1-11 16:03
原文章由 kannes 於 08-1-11 15:57 發表 
請問ISF (弘立書院) 好唔好呀? 我睇佢WEB-SITE, 佢英普教學, 又行IB課程, any comments for this school???
本人十分十分喜歡, 不過好可惜afford唔起, 對我嚟講實在太貴啦 
作者: tingtingting 時間: 08-1-11 16:54
原文章由 babyoush 於 08-1-11 16:03 發表
本人十分十分喜歡, 不過好可惜afford唔起, 對我嚟講實在太貴啦
It is now very difficult to get in even if you have the money. Grade one admission rate is below 1 to 7.
My friend's boss moved from Kowloon Tong to Cyber Port last year. She bought a flat there believing that she could get her son into ISF without difficult. Her son failed. 
But, she earns over 10 million from her Cyber Port flat. 
作者: ettawong 時間: 08-1-14 23:18
My girl has applied for ISF, has anyone got accepted for 2008 Yr 1 or foundation year ?
Mixed comments from friends & moms. Some like it alot, some don't. I like it because I believe taking HKCEE is not useful to my children. IB program is not a threat to me. And I prefer bilingual education, which ISF can offer. I don't mind if they are very new & the admin is really lousy (that's what I heard & experienced !) afterall, the children should try to explore the real world where poor administration is common place. 
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作者: tingtingting 時間: 08-1-17 11:25
原文章由 ettawong 於 08-1-14 23:18 發表
My girl has applied for ISF, has anyone got accepted for 2008 Yr 1 or foundation year ?
Mixed comments from friends & moms. Some like it alot, some don't...
I heard about one failed case and one successful case. The boy who got an offer has an elder sister who is already there. What about your girl's application? Any luck?
作者: raymun 時間: 08-1-17 12:07 標題: 回覆 #5 tingtingting 的文章
Can any comment on this school be given by parents of the existing students?
作者: mrsho 時間: 08-1-17 12:28
One of my friend's daughter is studying in p.1 there. Surprising, a lot of homework and a lot of parents meetings. 3 per week, every morning.
My friend needs to hire a home teacher to teacher her child everyday.
作者: 502 時間: 08-1-17 12:44 標題: Reply to mrsho's
I'm not a P1 parent but a P3 one.
But for P3 cases (should be heavier than P1), the homework is reasonable, if not light!
Tutorial class is not needed unless the parents are too busy to help the kids when necessary.
Regarding parents' meeting, most of them are information sharing and update and I can't recall a 3 per week schedule for P3. Maybe for P1 only!
For the meetings I have attended, the parents are keen to share with each others and I myself really enjoy them!
作者: mrsho 時間: 08-1-17 13:22
Yes, you are right. According to my friend, after they moved into the cyber port. They changed a lot at the policy in order to bring up the level of the students.
The reason why she told me since I was also planning to let my kids to study BEFORE but she knows very well my situation so she asked me to think about it by telling me the case.
原文章由 502 於 08-1-17 12:44 發表
I'm not a P1 parent but a P3 one.
But for P3 cases (should be heavier than P1), the homework is reasonable, if not light!
Tutorial class is not needed unless the parents are too busy to help the kid ...
作者: ngmom 時間: 08-1-17 13:51
My kid switched from another IS to ISF last Sept and so far we are very happy with the school. He is in Grade 2 and his homework is mostly less than one hour if not less than 10 minutes. From my observation, most of the homework for P2 is on Chinese and maths. At Grade 2, if the mandarin or chinese standard of a kid is not at par with his/her peers, he/she might need to spend more time or require extra assistance. The school also encourages kids to read everyday and someone might regard this also as a "homework".
As to Admin, they have just moved to a much larger campus at Cyberport and it is understandable that it takes sometime to perfect the admin or school policy after this physical change with the substantially increased teacher/student population.
I share 502's view that the parents' meetings are mostly information sharing and attendance is entirely voluntary. I actually think very few schools are so open in sharing their teaching method and policy. I think parents who are interested in their kids' education would welcome these opportunities to know more about the teaching/learning/related topics of interests.
作者: raymun 時間: 08-1-17 14:18 標題: 回覆 #10 ngmom 的文章
I would have a parent meeting (2nd stage of assessment/interview) next week for the Foundation Year 08/09. Could ngmom share with me the experience, if you have attended the parent meeting, last year.
作者: cecilau 時間: 08-1-17 14:37
raymun,
我上星期五做左parent interview啦. 都係傾下計, 問下點解會choose 弘立呀. 無乜特別呀.
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-1-17 15:12
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作者: ettawong 時間: 08-1-17 15:23 標題: 回覆 #5 tingtingting 的文章
We had a parent interview this monday. Simple questions, friendly atmosphere. Not yet received a confirmation.....
Yes, I also heard they are pushing a bit harder on academics this year, after moving to the new campus. I think ISF is positioned between local school & international school. If it is as loose as other IS, it is not easy to get the children excel in two languages at the same time.
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-1-17 15:32
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作者: 502 時間: 08-1-17 15:47
I can say that the compulsory wearing of a cap is a non-sense policy and hope that it is not true.
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The above is true but I would not account it as an non-sense policy.
Per my understanding, similar policy is in place in some other ISs. The aim is to protect the kids from being burnt under the sun while having out-door activities.
My kids' sport coaches also have similar strict rules in place.
Please be sensible before making a sharp comment!
作者: cecilau 時間: 08-1-17 16:04
502,
上次簡介會, 我見P.3 小朋友的英文都唔錯呀. 你小朋友而家P3, 佢英文同普通話係唔係都handle 到呀?
原文章由 502 於 08-1-17 15:47 發表
I can say that the compulsory wearing of a cap is a non-sense policy and hope that it is not true.
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The above is true but I would not account it as an non-sense policy.
Per m ...
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-1-17 16:06
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作者: warrrren 時間: 08-1-17 16:31
As for 2nd round interview, my GUESS is that it is somewhat a process to identify those parents who do not really share ISF's philosophy (e.g. those who keep on asking why there is no test/exam, why the students are not ranked, why the students are given only three math questions a day, why the students should wear a cap under the sun, etc.)
As for parents' meetings, probably mrsho was talking about those meetings organised by the class mom reps. Some mom reps. have more to share than others and are more keen to see each other.
Attend those meetings if you like them; ignore them if you don't (I can't recall when the last time I attended those meetings was).
At ISF, homework load is probably heavier than that in say ESF or HKIS. After all, ISF aims high. But it never takes my girl more than an hour to finish her homework if she is in the right mood (Luckily she is in the right mood most of the time. But she also has her bad days. Her record is - writing 6 words in 40 mins). Some homework may take more time to finish but they are no jabberwocky. In math, for an example, my girl got this question last year - Student A has twice as much pocket money as student B. A and B each spends $10 on food. After that, A has three times as much as B does. How much does A and B respectively has before they spend their money on food? It took my girl no less than 15 mins to work on the question. I can imagine that she would need at least an hour if she got a few more questions like that. Is it heavy homework load? I don't think so. I guess I would get frustrated if my girl has to do 24/6=? type of questions repeatedly but I love this non-jabberwocky type of questions. Bring them on.
As for wearing cap outdoors, yes there is such a policy. I can live with it. No big deal. It is no more nonsense than the rule that boys should wear white socks. By the way, for your information, quite a number of Aussie schools and Scandinavian schools make it a rule that all students wear long-sleeves and put on caps and sunglasses when they are outdoors. I will not be surprised if other schools like GSIS follows suit.
I am not going to argue against people's belief that a student cannot excel in more than one language. After all, not all people are equally well informed and people are entitled to their belief. My girl and I and our fellow students and parents are enjoying the benefits of high quality liberal education in a truly bilingual setting and we are happy. Period.
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作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-1-17 17:36
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作者: YOSASHTO 時間: 08-1-18 00:35
As I understand, the schools that require hat specify the type with a nect covering to protech the exposed skin between the hair and the shirt.
Research has shown that diseases caused by the sun's UV radiation has a cumulative effect on the skin. So, 1 hour outdoor PE lesson 3 days a week unprotected is equivalent to 12 hours unprotected exposure every month, which amounts to 120 hours unprotected exposure in a school year. That is the same as spending 15 days 8 hours each on the beach 生晒. Although spreading out the exposure this way does not cause burning of the skin, but some damages done are not highly visible.
Better safe than sorry!
作者: justinamum 時間: 08-1-18 09:49
ISFA has offered a grade 6 place for my kid in the coming 2008-9 year. Any comments on their middle year
program? Any news on the approval of the school as an
IB MYP authorized school?
作者: warrrren 時間: 08-1-18 09:52
Wearing a cap or not is to me a trivia. No big deal.
To judge whether a school is liberal, I ask myself these questions - Is the school receptive to different ideas? How does the school deal with challenging or fussy students? How ready are the principal, teachers and parents to go to school in pyjamas on pyjamas day, or dress up on Halloween? What would the teachers do if the kids say they want to do some dancing duriing morning assembly instead? How would the teachers react if the students keep a hamster and a lizard in classroom? How quickly does the school respond to the students' campaign to collect tooth brushes and toothpastes for the kids in Mongolia? Is the school ready to listen to and respond to the parents? What will the school do if it is pointed out to it that it has done something wrong? ... I rate ISF very highly in these areas. And I am sure I am not alone. I know quite a number of parents (including local Chinese, ABCs and Caucasians) who made the move to switch thier children to ISF from other "liberal" international schools (HKIS for an example) in the last two years and I have never heard a single complaint from them about ISF not being liberal enough.
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作者: warrrren 時間: 08-1-18 10:00
原文章由 justinamum 於 08-1-18 09:49 發表
ISFA has offered a grade 6 place for my kid in the coming 2008-9 year. Any comments on their middle year
program? Any news on the approval of the school as an
IB MYP authorized school?
Representatives from IBO's Asian Pacific Office made their final pre-authorisation visit four days ago. Be prepared for some official news soon.
作者: justinamum 時間: 08-1-18 10:09 標題: 回覆 #1 warrrren 的文章
thanks for the information. my kid is
now studying in a local school. I am a bit worried whether she can catch up with
the english language session. Is that true that english is the only allowed language
being used inside school ? will many of their students continue to study in their higher forms or will study abroad in grade 9 ?
作者: 502 時間: 08-1-18 17:53
For upper grades, per my understanding, both English and Mandarin are allowed except that the proportion will be different from those of lower grades.
No point for me to argue the wearing-cap policy with someone who is......
Warren - Similar comment about homework. My kid once was asked to put 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 together to a total of 100, with the use of + and - only. Homework can also be fun!
原文章由 justinamum 於 08-1-18 10:09 發表
thanks for the information. my kid is
now studying in a local school. I am a bit worried whether she can catch up with
the english language session. Is that true that english is the only allowed lan ...
作者: almom 時間: 08-1-18 18:46
There are a lot of schools that have the no-hat-no-play policy. I am not sure about PE though.
My children's school does have this policy for outdoor play but not for PE. But I think I would not complain if they are to do it. I do not see what's wrong with playing sports in hats.
I know some kindergartens even have "sunscreen/sunblock policy".
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作者: courtbas 時間: 08-1-19 08:06
justinamum,
When did you go for the parent interview? How long did you have to wait after the parent interview before a place is offered?
原文章由 justinamum 於 08-1-18 09:49 發表
ISFA has offered a grade 6 place for my kid in the coming 2008-9 year. Any comments on their middle year
program? Any news on the approval of the school as an
IB MYP authorized school?
作者: justinamum 時間: 08-1-19 11:17
Dear Courtbas,
I applied in Sept 07 . The first child assessment session was in early Dec 07 and the second child assessment together with parent interview was in mid Dec 07. I was given the offer in early Jan. Their second batch of enrolment will close in March 08.
作者: sabun 時間: 08-1-23 21:07 標題: ISF REALLY A GOOD SCHOOL
1.Chinese standard very high!(They follow Beijing curriculumn)
2.They have two kind of math (chinese math and eng math)
3.very low student and teacher ratio 1:14
4.The student can speak putongha and english fluently
5.The student are very smart and confident
6.The school run like an international school
7.The lunch they provide is supper good,like you are dinning
in the hotel.
8.Have two supper beautiful library!
作者: justinamum 時間: 08-1-24 11:05
my kid will study in grade 6 in ISF this coming Sept. Do you have any further information on their secondary school, how about the teaching staff there?
原文章由 sabun 於 08-1-23 21:07 發表
1.Chinese standard very high!(They follow Beijing curriculumn)
2.They have two kind of math (chinese math and eng math)
3.very low student and teacher ratio 1:14
4.The student can speak putongha and e ...
作者: sabun 時間: 08-1-24 11:29 標題: about ISF staff
原文章由 justinamum 於 08-1-24 11:05 發表
my kid will study in grade 6 in ISF this coming Sept. Do you have any further information on their secondary school, how about the teaching staff there?
You make a very good decision,Which school does your
son came from,As I know ,the teaching staff in ISF are
very good!Some came from 哈佛,弘立收費貴其實十分物有所值,他們將所有資源用在學生身上,學校很少再收取其他費用,這所學校真的希望培訓社會的尖子及精英,只耍小朋友真的很叻,又乖巧,學習態度好,弘立都會support他們直上大學,真令人感動!
作者: justinamum 時間: 08-1-26 16:39
thank you very much for the information. My kid is studying in MPS.
原文章由 sabun 於 08-1-24 11:29 發表
You make a very good decision,Which school does your
son came from,As I know ,the teaching staff in ISF are
very good!Some came from 哈佛,弘立收費貴其實十分物有所值,他們將所有資源用在學生身上,學校 ...
作者: leetai828 時間: 08-1-26 22:30 標題: 回覆 #1 justinamum 的文章
Will anyone go for theri foundation year?
作者: Prema 時間: 08-1-29 12:42
My son was accepted for Glade 1 in coming Sept 08. Do they offer much activities after school? Any parents here that their kids will be in Glade 1 in coming Sept , please come and share.
作者: leetai828 時間: 08-1-29 13:04 標題: ISF
Congrat, May I know which kindergarten your son is studying? I am thinking if I should move my girl to their foundation course. Did you consider their foundation? Why not sending your son to foundation too?
原文章由 Prema 於 08-1-29 12:42 發表
My son was accepted for Glade 1 in coming Sept 08. Do they offer much activities after school? Any parents here that their kids will be in Glade 1 in coming Sept , please come and share.
作者: leetai828 時間: 08-1-29 13:19 標題: Capital Note
One more questions for ISF parents :
Should I buy their Capital Note if my child was accepted?
Could you share what did you buy, Capital Note, Capital Levy or Annual Levy? Which one is better? Thanks,
作者: justinamum 時間: 08-1-29 21:23
according to the admission payment advice for grade 6,
the general capital levy is HKD 150000 non interest and not transferable but can get the total sum back after 6 years.
the capital note cost HKD 850000 non interest, not refundable but can be transfer to others one year after purchase. They said the face value of the capital note will change from time to time and the transfer price will be set by the noteholders with the profit ( if any ) share between the shool and the noteholder.
the third option is to pay an annual capital levy of $24000 the first year and $12000 per year afterwards.$12000 will be refund to the parent after the child leave the school.
I have chosen the third option but I think the first option will be a better choice if the child atarts studying from primary one.
原文章由 leetai828 於 08-1-29 13:19 發表
One more questions for ISF parents :
Should I buy their Capital Note if my child was accepted?
Could you share what did you buy, Capital Note, Capital Levy or Annual Levy? Which one is better? Than ...
作者: Prema 時間: 08-1-30 11:30
Foundation year start in Feb 08 for my son's year. For your case, which year are you going to apply Feb 08 or Sept 08?
My son is in K3 from a kinder which use english and mandarin as teaching tool, so he will study Glade 1 in Sept 08.
原文章由 leetai828 於 08-1-29 13:04 發表
Congrat, May I know which kindergarten your son is studying? I am thinking if I should move my girl to their foundation course. Did you consider their foundation? Why not sending your son to foun ...
作者: leetai828 時間: 08-1-31 04:01
My girl is now k2 and has already applied for 08/09 foundation. She will most likely be accepted. That's why i need to plan now. i heard someone said buying their capital note is a good investment. the first batch has already increased value from $100,000 to the current value of $850,000.
原文章由 Prema 於 08-1-30 11:30 發表
Foundation year start in Feb 08 for my son's year. For your case, which year are you going to apply Feb 08 or Sept 08?
My son is in K3 from a kinder which use english and mandarin as teaching tool ...
作者: Prema 時間: 08-1-31 21:36
I was told that ISF Glade 1 is more difficult to get in this year. So I can imagine for 09/10 Glade 1 , the comptetiton will be very keen, as they will have students from foundation course already.
So If you like this school, it will be better to study Foundation course 08/09.
原文章由 leetai828 於 08-1-31 04:01 發表
My girl is now k2 and has already applied for 08/09 foundation. She will most likely be accepted. That's why i need to plan now. i heard someone said buying their capital note is a good investment. ...
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-2-1 10:49
我都打算幫囡囡報埋呢間作"後備"... 
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-2-26 11:39
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作者: sabun 時間: 08-2-26 13:34 標題: 親身體會,弘立是一間很好的學校
很多外國人都等侯入這間學校,尤其是預備班,外國小朋友也不少,相信他們喜歡佢普通話(真的貼近北京課程)聽講現在很難入,我有兩個friend的仔仔是資優,家境超富裕也考不到,他們十分disappointed!ISF的家長大份其中父或母是外國人或是ABC,故入面好多student也是混血兒,出席ISF家教會活動時你們就會見到很多專業人士,CEO,等好像成個中環的高層人士大集會一樣,他們全都能操流利english,家長and school也很叻,成日請到一些世界各地的科學家,作家,音樂家來與student分享,擴他們的眼界,在如此尊貴的學校study真是令人羨慕!
作者: raymun 時間: 08-2-26 13:51
I am so glad that my girl was accepted by ISF and would attend Foundation Year this Sept. 
作者: sabun 時間: 08-2-26 14:05
congradration!Your daughter must be a very smart and
lovely child!I am glad that she can enter this luxuary
school!
作者: wisekid2007 時間: 08-2-26 14:45
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作者: warrrren 時間: 08-2-26 15:04
原文章由 wisekid2007 於 08-2-26 14:45 發表
"... it refects exactly the value system held ...
Of all the ISF parents I know (trust me, I know a large no. of ISF parents), none will share the above view.
What an undisclosed individual says in a public unmonitored forum like this hardly reflects on the school. Don't worry, there isn't any cause for concern.
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作者: ettawong 時間: 08-2-26 17:37
Hi raymum
My girl will join ISF in Foundation Year this Sept. as well. See you around !!
原文章由 raymun 於 08-2-26 13:51 發表
I am so glad that my girl was accepted by ISF and would attend Foundation Year this Sept.
作者: KAKMAMA 時間: 08-2-26 19:56
We like our daughter study in a nurturing environment and be proficent in both English & Mandarin. Not very interested in those 'traditional' local schools. Our daughter is still very young right now, but we are trying to plan ahead.
We looked at both Victoria Shanghai Academy and ISF, they seem quite similar to me, e.g. Both emphasize 'bilingual' (English+Mandarin), follow IB, kids attending these two schools are very happy.
How about the discipline of the students and their academic performances? Are these two schools comparable? I know both of them are quite new, so no track record on public exam results or university admission stats, but just hope to get a general feel on how to choose between these 2 schools.
Thanks in advance for your help.
作者: cecilau 時間: 08-2-27 11:58
ettawong & raymum,
My son also will join Foundation Year in this Sept. Hope that he will enjoy his school life is ISF for 13 years.
All,
Does the student need to take TOEFL or other exam when they go to Unversity in other country?
原文章由 ettawong 於 08-2-26 17:37 發表
Hi raymum
My girl will join ISF in Foundation Year this Sept. as well. See you around !!
作者: liyinfai 時間: 08-3-2 08:18
May I ask the content of interview for Foundation Program?
Many thanks!
作者: cecilau 時間: 08-3-3 10:02
from isf website:-
面試和測驗
預備班和一年級
面試需時約45分鐘至60分鐘
學生須完成一些簡單活動、聽故事及對故事作出回應
原文章由 liyinfai 於 08-3-2 08:18 發表
May I ask the content of interview for Foundation Program?
Many thanks!
作者: 金瑪姬 時間: 08-3-8 15:46
My son joined the 7 grade since Sept 2007. The school is so far so good. My son loves to go to school everyday. He commented that:
* homeworks here really help him to learn.
* no bullying, classmates are nice, even when compared with his primary school
*the campus and school resources are great
* teachers are good, except the one for Maths(too bore)
* lunches are good
* the school is a bit far away(we live in kowloon)
*he enjoys playing football everyday with almost all the secondary boys during recess and lunch
* the library is great
* the school divide the whole 7 grade into 3 Eng classes. the advance class is really advance
* all the projects are interesting
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作者: justinamum 時間: 08-3-9 21:12
thanks for the information.
My daughter will also join ISF as grade 6 student this Sept. we are a bit worry whether she can catch up with the
english lessons because she is now studying in a local primary school. Any problem with your son when he first transferred to this school? Is he studying in an international school also in primary class?
How about the IB accreditation? is ISF already an IB authorized school?
原文章由 金瑪姬 於 08-3-8 15:46 發表
My son joined the 7 grade since Sept 2007. The school is so far so good. My son loves to go to school everyday. He commented that:
* homeworks here really help him to learn.
* no bullying, classmates ...
作者: brydenbobo 時間: 08-3-10 13:34
We have been to the school's Open Day & was very impressed. We do intend to send our girl there but was wondering if Local Chinese like ourselves will be "Minorities" in there?
And, seems like a lot refer it to as a "School for the Rich", we are both working parents only, can anyone advise if we will be able to fit in this community?
作者: chez 時間: 08-3-10 13:46
is there any school bus to Kln side like Hung hom ? thanks.
原文章由 金瑪姬 於 08-3-8 15:46 發表
My son joined the 7 grade since Sept 2007. The school is so far so good. My son loves to go to school everyday. He commented that:
* homeworks here really help him to learn.
* no bullying, classmates ...
作者: tingtingting 時間: 08-3-10 13:58
原文章由 brydenbobo 於 08-3-10 13:34 發表 
We have been to the school's Open Day & was very impressed. We do intend to send our girl there but was wondering if Local Chinese like ourselves will be "Minorities" in there?
And, seems like a lot ...
I missed the open day. Could u pls kindly share yr experience. TX.
作者: 金瑪姬 時間: 08-3-10 15:14
原文章由 justinamum 於 08-3-9 21:12 發表
thanks for the information.
My daughter will also join ISF as grade 6 student this Sept. we are a bit worry whether she can catch up with the
english lessons because she is now studying in a local pr ...
Eng is his best subject, so he's fine. He studied in private eng primary school.
I think it is not easy for a primary student from the main stream because they need to write a lot.
And, I think Mandarin will be another problem.
Anyway, as they are so young, they will get use to it very soon.
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作者: 金瑪姬 時間: 08-3-10 15:17
原文章由 chez 於 08-3-10 13:46 發表
is there any school bus to Kln side like Hung hom ? thanks.
Yes, there is, at around 7:10am.
作者: 金瑪姬 時間: 08-3-10 15:30
原文章由 brydenbobo 於 08-3-10 13:34 發表
We have been to the school's Open Day & was very impressed. We do intend to send our girl there but was wondering if Local Chinese like ourselves will be "Minorities" in there?
And, seems like a lot ...
There is a financial aid program. The school is target to have 30% of it's community to study there with financial aid. All parents here understand that the ISF community is make up of all different walk of life.
For info.
作者: brydenbobo 時間: 08-3-11 09:51
金瑪姬,
Thank you for your sharing! 
So glad to learn that the school aims at being a school for all suitable, regardless of family background. Do you think they have achieved that goal already? Will those from poorer families be accepted by the other students all the same?
Besides the ability to fit in, would anyone be kind enough to advise on the academics please. From the Open Day, we saw a lot of displays on science subjects, and they are very good. But, are the other subjects well balanced? Can we expect the students from ISF, say Grade 1 or 2, to do Chinese and English composition as thier counter-parts in local schools?
so many doubts when it comes to finding a school for one's kid.
作者: sabun 時間: 08-3-11 10:35
原文章由 brydenbobo 於 08-3-11 09:51 發表
金瑪姬,
Thank you for your sharing! So glad to learn that the school aims at being a school for all suitable, regardless of family background. Do you think they have achieved that goal already? Wi ...
don't worry!No one care you come from what kind of
family,be confidient yourself!
Their english and chinese standard are good too!
The school care the student very very much!
作者: ngmom 時間: 08-3-11 14:29
there is no point in comparing the language competency of students of different schools at so junior a grade, especially when language is not the key criteria for admission to ISF and students of varying levels of English/Chinese competence may be admitted to Grade I. Suffice to say that (i) the school adopts the Immersion Program and puts more focus on reading and listening initially, the speaking and writing will come naturally at a later stage; (ii) the school does not do a lot of drilling on spelling and grammar at the lower grades and it would be difficult to compare the quality of the writing of the students with other (especially local) schools since totally different results could be reached by using different assessment criteria. For me it's the ideas and organisation that count. (iii) the emphasis of English vs Chinese reverses in the upper grades and in my humble view the quality of the students should be assessed only after they have completed at least the whole primary program rather than on a piecemeal and/or short-term basis.
After all, unlike many other schools, the school believes in educating the whole child, rather than just focusing on academic competence on specific subjects. One really need to understand the education approach and philosophy of the school when deciding when it's the right school for one's kids.
原文章由 brydenbobo 於 08-3-11 09:51 發表
金瑪姬,
Thank you for your sharing! So glad to learn that the school aims at being a school for all suitable, regardless of family background. Do you think they have achieved that goal already? Wi ...
作者: brydenbobo 時間: 08-3-18 09:44
Allow me to thank you all for the sharing.
I think I would put ISF on the top of the list after these reviews.
I have 2 children, the cost for sending them there is really high:cry:
I want to ask a few more questions, help me please.
- Are the teachers well-qualified? Been to some local schools, the teachers there have the qualifications, but may not have the experience nor heart;
- have the picture of some international school where students wear short skirts and started dating at 10 or smoke, is the discipline and moral good at ISF?
- does ISF have any connections with famous Universities?
Please help!
作者: 502 時間: 08-3-18 10:18 標題: 回覆 #68 brydenbobo 的文章
As parents of primary section, we are 200% happy with the teachers - they are patient and caring.
作者: brydenbobo 時間: 08-3-19 09:19
200% is really encouraging!
And, anyone has idea if the discipline is good and
whether the school has any ties with Univerisities or Senior High overseas? Is it true that IB students would be favoured by schools abroad?
作者: christf 時間: 08-3-19 10:03
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作者: brydenbobo 時間: 08-3-19 10:15
Thank you!
Discipline is of great concern to us.
Did you hear of the results of the meeting and if any measures are now in place to prevent bullying?
Is the case very serious?
作者: christf 時間: 08-3-19 10:22
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作者: brydenbobo 時間: 08-3-19 10:52
Oh no, this is serious!
Mental bullying can be real harsh, we are from working parents family and we sure do not want our kids to be targets.............please help to get more information if you can.
作者: warrrren 時間: 08-3-19 12:52
Thanks for the “mental bullying” explanation. I now realise why I got all the blues this morning – it was not because Arthur Clarke left this world yesterday, but because I was first mentally bullied by that unsightly fat man who drove his shinny Maserati in front of me and subsequently by the news that someone just bought a condo in Tai Hang for $35,000/ft2, and yet further by the fact that the guy next door knows what ventriloquism means but I do not.
There may well be students from really rich families who occasionally talk about big houses, skiing in the Alps, private singing coach, etc. The faint-hearted and the narrow-minded may tend to think that they are showing off their wealth. Not necessarily, I can honestly tell you. A boy from a poor family who has never been to Ocean Park may find it offensive that another boy tells him how fun Ocean Park is. Is the Ocean Park going boy boasting about his parents’ wealth? Maybe, and maybe not. He may truly consider Ocean Park fun and he just wants to share his joy with his friend. Jumping on the boy and accusing him of being bossy or boasting is foolish. Quite a few people tend to believe that schools with super rich families (e.g. HKIS, CIS and ISF to name a few) have this “showing off” culture. My own experience is very different from this general belief. If you walk into any of the above-mentioned schools and boast around, Ha, you will be frowned upon. Anyhow, it is up to the person to decide how to handle “mental bullying” – he can choose to grow out of it and be a better and more beautiful person; or he can choose to look only at the negative side and continue to play the victim’s role. Kids are easy; parents sometimes are not. At ISF kids from different walks of life learn and play together. If you are worried that there are too many kids who are from the rich and famous families, I can offer you one comforting fact and one simple solution: The fact first – most of the ISF kids are from the working middle class. The chance of you bumping into a kid living in South Horizon is higher than you bumping into a kid who lives in a big house up the Peak. And here is the solution – stop worrying and stop comparing the size of your apartment with that of others. Whatever you are worrying about you will pass it to your kid.
As for bullying (whatever it means, so called physical or mental), I accept that there are always some kids who are more challenging than others. But, I cannot imagine how boring and uninspiring a school is if there are not a few kids who constantly pose themselves as challenges to the teachers, other kids and their own parents. Tell me if you know of any schools that do not have challenging students. I will avoid them like plague. By the way, I am not saying that discipline is unimportant. I do care about discipline and always think that respect and responsibility are the two things that all students and their parents must learn. I have been at ISF for quite some time and I can see nothing seriously wrong with students’ discipline. My greater concern is the over-concerned parents who are more keen on over-parenting than parenting - they remind me of Bree in Desperate Housewives. Horrible species indeed.
作者: ngmom 時間: 08-3-19 12:59
I understand that the School takes the issue of discipline very seriously. Implementation of the School's discipline policy will take time and is often challenging due to the diversity of the School community, given that the school is relatively young and many of the students joined the School only recently after its relocation to the current campus. Different parents might have different expectations of the School. Some might think the school is too strict while some might think the school is not strict enough. It is not easy to reach a fine balance which can please everyone.
As far as I am aware (my kid is in Grade 2), bullying is not very common (and no more common than many other schools) and I have never heard of the so-called "mental bullying" cases. I have checked with other parents of my kid's classmates and they are not aware of these "mental bullying" cases too. In any case, I don't think wealth is directly related to the moral standards of the students. Much is dependent on the quality of the parents, of whom the ones I know are all very caring and concerned about their kids' personal development and character.
作者: LousyMum 時間: 08-3-19 17:04
so far 我第一身接觸過的家長，沒有一個研究過 ISF 後話不 impressed 不喜歡的。唯一的negative factor 是學費貴。 反而好多話亞邊個邊個 個仔比人bully 到要轉校呀 + 其他不好的事等等的，我沒有一次可以證明到是真的，因爲每一次的當事人都總是朋友個朋友等, except one. In that particular case, the mum told me that her girl got bullied but was quickly solved after the homeroom teachers talked to the one who bullied and the one who got bullied. And the mum was very impressed by how quickly the school solved that. 那次也不是太big deal. 那閒學校無呀？ 另外，ISF的家長總括來講都算是好緊張好actively involved in the school's daily operation. 好多activities 都是家長負責的。 也可能因爲是這樣，所以校内好多事都好透明，好快可以傳出去。 這總比那些有大件事發生時校長都還收收埋埋個D學校呀。
最後，作為家長，由自私的角度出發，大家唱壞閒學校時，我個細B咪容易D入羅，競爭細D嗎。
作者: christf 時間: 08-3-19 17:54
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作者: warrrren 時間: 08-3-19 18:19
I do quite like to discuss with you. There are always some interesting points and useful reminders.
I think what you quoted were totally different issues. I am not talking about showing off of the wealth. Please understand what I meant "Mental Bullying". This may not be the correct term in decribing this kind of behaviour and I don't know how to use the correct term.
Anyway, what I meant the "Mental Bullying" was that some spoilted wealthy kids actually requested some other students to do something for them and said that they would be rewarded financially or materially. This kind of behaviour is totally difference from the showing off cases as quoted by you.
I agree that the kind of behaviours you described is wholly unacceptable. Your friend'd better let the homeroom teachers be informed of those behaviours.
By the way, I haven't said that bullying is unique in ISF. Have I? I just told some interesting parents about the REAL and ACTUAL situation occured in ISF. All these cases were told by my friends whose kid is facing such problem day by day.
I don't think my good friends would lie to me as most of the parents like those ISF parents in ISF here in BK forum that they would only tend to tell the "Positive" side to others in order to show off that their kids are studying in the "Best" schools they think. Right?
Of course I am not saying that your friend is lying. Who am I to make such an allegation? The very general remarks that I made in my earlier post are what they are - general remarks. And, I hope I did not leave any impression that I "show off that their kids are studying in the "Best" schools." In fact, I will be the first one to admit that there are problems at ISF. What I have been saying is I do not see any serious problems (I am one of those guys who do not sweat over small things).
Face the reality and every school has its own problems and there is no IDEAL school in the world.
Agree. Absolutely. No problem. I am not looking for the "best" schools. They are for sissies. HA HA (sorry, just came back from a drink).
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作者: LousyMum 時間: 08-3-19 22:47
Christf
其實我真係好唔明白點解你好似以前個wisekid2007一樣咁緊張呢個topic 呢﹖ 又浪費時間argue, 又唔開心。 點解唔spend more time去你個仔間學校的topic 呢? 如果你覺得warren + 其他家長太主觀支持學校﹐你又有沒有想過可能是你自己太主觀反對學校呢。況其你又不是現成家長﹐你又點會比現成家長了解情況呢﹖ 無人講過ISF是best school 或貴族學校﹐ 它只不過社會的[宿]影。 以我個班為例呀。 有住屯門﹐黃大先﹐香港仔的﹐也有南區獨立屋的﹐但大部份都是住mid-level 的打工仔﹐有什麼大不了﹐有什麼 show-off 唔 show-off呀﹖
ps。 我講等人唱懷學校﹐等第時申請無咁大competition。。。 講笑即﹐係人都聽得出喇。。 Relax.
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 08-3-20 10:09
雖然我不是弘立的家長，但我先生出席過上兩周的開放日，感覺非常好。因為弘立大多收取外籍學生或混血兒學生，就算是本地學生，其英語會話能力均很強，所以大部份學生的英語能力均不俗。但最令人印象深刻的，就是低年級學生（甚至是外籍小朋友）均能掌握良好的普通話，學校亦很注重中文書寫。相信其它國際學校均未能投放如此多的資源在中文教學上。
作者: LousyMum 時間: 08-3-20 11:48
Kyliema
你小朋友讀間學校都是我心水之選。我去過他們的開放日﹐小朋友的表現都是very impressive。 可惜它在對面海呢。
原文章由 kyliema2006 於 08-3-20 10:09 發表
雖然我不是弘立的家長，但我先生出席過上兩周的開放日，感覺非常好。因為弘立大多收取外籍學生或混血兒學生，就算是本地學生，其英語會話能力均很強，所以大部份學生的英語能力均不俗。但最令人印象深刻的，就是低年級學生（甚至是 ...
作者: kyliema2006 時間: 08-3-20 12:26
原文章由 LousyMum 於 08-3-20 11:48 發表
Kyliema
你小朋友讀間學校都是我心水之選。我去過他們的開放日﹐小朋友的表現都是very impressive。 可惜它在對面海呢。
Dear LousyMum,
對，揀選學校最好鄰近住宅，否則苦了孩子、更苦了家長。可以入讀ISF，雖然荷包緊了，但會是孩子之福。
作者: cecilau 時間: 08-3-20 13:11
Lousymum,
聽到你咁講, 我都安心好多呀. 我都是普通中產, 只是唔鐘意本地的教育, 又唔鐘意無中文學的國際學校, 所以同仔仔選擇讀isf. 我都是死慳死抵俾仔仔讀isf 的. 你小朋友讀幾多年級呀?
原文章由 LousyMum 於 08-3-19 22:47 發表
Christf
其實我真係好唔明白點解你好似以前個wisekid2007一樣咁緊張呢個topic 呢﹖ 又浪費時間argue, 又唔開心。 點解唔spend more time去你個仔間學校的topic 呢? 如果你覺得warren + 其他家長太主觀支持學校﹐你 ...
作者: 金瑪姬 時間: 08-3-20 13:32
我認識的ISF是很"單純"，我個仔話有個同學改自己花名做"金魚佬"，我即時好緊張，詳細了解之後，原來成班同學都唔知金魚佬係點解，當然，美國同中國來的2位，中英文老師就更加唔知，個班主任仲一齐叫佢 gold fish man 。
在 grade 7 家長中，其實有唔少都係各大學既職員、以及公務員，真正的大有錢人似乎佔小數，以我來說，我是追求學術同品格培養，而並非為貴族學校一詞，慕名而來。
另外，本人對 IB非常認同！
校規都好嚴，例如dress code都好嚴緊，其實校方仍然將佢哋當小朋友看待，仍然未到 Teen 的階段。 (grade 7)
作者: Pooh_Pooh 時間: 08-3-20 18:41
多謝有經驗的媽咪share..
可惜上次開放日無去到呢..
但我都會幫囡囡報呢間 (如果考唔到CIS)
作者: justinamum 時間: 08-3-21 12:32
any news on the IB authorization process for the MYP of
the school?
原文章由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-3-20 18:41 發表
多謝有經驗的媽咪share..
可惜上次開放日無去到呢..
但我都會幫囡囡報呢間 (如果考唔到CIS)
作者: LousyMum 時間: 08-3-22 13:36
MYP - in progress. Target later this year
DP - next priority after MYP
PYP - next after DP
原文章由 justinamum 於 08-3-21 12:32 發表
any news on the IB authorization process for the MYP of
the school?
作者: brydenbobo 時間: 08-3-25 11:25
原文章由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-3-20 18:41 發表
多謝有經驗的媽咪share..
可惜上次開放日無去到呢..
但我都會幫囡囡報呢間 (如果考唔到CIS)
Any reason why you prefer CIS over ISF? I know both are very good schools, is it the reputation or any other reasons? Do you mind sharing?
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