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作者: okwong 時間: 08-1-5 01:35 標題: Can anyone give comments on these schools?

Any suggestion on how to choose among these schools?
1.  Raimondi College
2.  H.K.University Graduate Association港大同學會
3.  St. Paul's College

All of these are boys schools.  Which one has a higher
academic standard?  If all the schools accepted your kid, which one will you choose?

作者: Uncle-DOS 時間: 08-1-5 09:03

3. St. Paul's College

作者: Janemansk 時間: 08-1-5 11:23

HKUGA is not a boys' school. It is a Co-ed.

I work near this school. I observe that the discipline of the students seems not so good and some of them are impolite. So for me I will not choose this school.

作者: 宏媽 時間: 08-1-5 17:07

I hold a different opinion compare with Janemansk's.

I am not a parent of any of the mentioned school. My boy doesn't go to school on the island. However, I was brought up as an islander, so I know quite a lot of friends who had considered to put their children into these schools.

Nowadays, education doesn't mean only politeness and obedient. Rather, children should learn how to behave in different occasion. I am sure, whatever you see in any school in Hong Kong, the same thing will happen in another school also, especially for teenager. Thus, it will be unfair for people to judge a school by a scenario or an impression, even you live just next to the school.

Raimondi and St Pauls' are traditional catholic schools. Although both of them are good schools, St Pauls' has always carried a better reputation than Raimondi, both in terms of the quality of students and the academic standard.

HKUGA has a totally different background. It is so called a 'new concept' school that emphasize on all round education of a young person. The school culture is more open minded.

In terms of academic standard, I think most would agree that St Pauls' will be the best among the three schools. If all of them accept your kid, I believe your kid must be a very smart one. So it really depends on the character of your child that you should choose a school that best fit his personality.

原文章由 Janemansk 於 08-1-5 11:23 發表
HKUGA is not a boys' school. It is a Co-ed.

I work near this school. I observe that the discipline of the students seems not so good and some of them are impolite. So for me I will not choose this sc ...

作者: TANGMOOMOO 時間: 08-1-5 20:35

St. Paul's College

作者: okwong 時間: 08-1-6 00:49 標題: Thank you for your comment.

If you have some more news about all these schools,
please let me know.

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HKUGA is not a boys' school. It is a Co-ed.

I work near this school. I observe that the discipline of the students seems not so good and some of them are impolite. So for me I will not choose this sc ...

作者: okwong 時間: 08-1-6 01:30 標題: Thank you for 宏媽's detail analysis

I like HKUGA because it is a new concept shcool.  I like
Raimondi because it will have a new school campus next
year and Maths is teaching in English.  I like St Paul Boy's
because of its reputation.  So, I am still collecting other's opinion.  How about their related secondary schools?
Which one is better?  Do you have any idea?  Anyway,
thanks for your analysis.

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I hold a different opinion compare with Janemansk's.

I am not a parent of any of the mentioned school. My boy doesn't go to school on the island. However, I was brought up as an islander, so I know q ...

作者: 返工媽 時間: 08-1-6 01:47

I have very close friends with their children in the mentioned three schools respectively.  In fact, only St Paul College is a boys' school since Raimondi is now recuiting girls.

I think St Paul college's students demonstrate the highest academic standard in term of exam results.  Students are being trained up under competitive environment.  They are smart, presentable and always capable of maintaining good public image.

HKUGA is a total different school.  My friend told me that her son's homework is not straight forward even to her standard as a lecturer.  They are trained to use their mind in a criticizing way and be told to judge before believe in all information from text books.

Raimondi is also a very good school.  The primary school will be moved to Wanchai and the secondary school will occupy the whole campus in mid level.

作者: 返工媽 時間: 08-1-6 12:50

Both St Paul's College and HKUGA are DSS schools and their annual fees are HK$38,000 and HK$27,000 respectively. Their students are usually promoted to their thru train S1 subject to one condition that students must pass all major subjects. St Paul's College holds both its primary school and secondary school in the same campus. HKUGA has its primary school in Chaiwan but its secondary school in Wong Chuk Hang.

Raimondi College is an aided secondary school so the school must strictly follow the EDB's policy regarding medium of instruction (teaching language) and places allocation.

作者: Janemansk 時間: 08-1-6 22:53

原文章由宏媽於 08-1-5 17:07 發表
I hold a different opinion compare with Janemansk's.

I am not a parent of any of the mentioned school. My boy doesn't go to school on the island. However, I was brought up as an islander, so I know q ...

Neither am I a parent of the mentioned school.

I respect anybody who hold different opinion with me.

I respect anybody who has different demand or standard on education.

But I did not say HKUGA is bad or good.

It is also very unfair to me to say that I have judged the school.

I just give my and my colleagues' observation which occur nearly everday. And this observation is the fact.

Despite the above problem, I also think this school has its own strength and good thing like training kids to be more outspoken and to have more confidence. But because I think politeness is more important, so I will not choose this school. That is my point.

So, what I said is only my choice but not any judgement.

作者: iwff 時間: 08-1-6 23:02

我朋友的兩個女兒都係HKUGA讀緊P5 & P2, 她們都很有禮貌外向, 大女係公開朗誦及講故事比賽中都獲獎。所以我個人認為每間學校都有有禮貌同冇禮貌的學生,不一定是學校問題,家長管教的責任都很大的。

iwff

原文章由 Janemansk 於 08-1-6 22:53 發表

Neither am I a parent of the mentioned school.

I respect anybody who hold different opinion with me.

I respect anybody who has different demand or standard on education.

But I did not say HKUGA i ...

作者: okwong 時間: 08-1-9 01:02 標題: Thank you for 返工媽 's information

It seems that all  the 3 schools have their good factors.
That is why it is difficult to choose.  If you have other
information in future, please advise.  Thanks a lot.

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Both St Paul's College and HKUGA are DSS schools and their annual fees are HK$38,000 and HK$27,000 respectively. Their students are usually promoted to their thru train S1 subject to one condition th ...

作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 08-1-9 09:37

利益申報: 我係hkuga家長
如果比較傳統學校, hkuga學生的確係唔可以用"知規守禮"黎形容, 學校從來唔要求學生要follow strict rules, 俾好多空間佢地去錯去學, 所以學生亦唔會怕老師, 大家係處於一個有商有量既位置
o係咁環境下"教育"出黎既學生, 唔會怕瘀唔會怕做錯左老師鬧, 想表達就去表達, 呢個係hkuga故意營造既環境, 係放肆定敢言, 家長自己決定喇
至於功課, 同一道理, 學校係故意令到學生要用腦, 譬如一年班數學, 學校明知好多學生, 幼稚園又學出面又學, 所以都唔會再俾多多工作紙計完又計, 所以hkuga工作紙, 可能一版只有2,3題, 但就設計到轉彎又轉彎, 要學生要用腦至做得到份功課(vs傳統方法係重覆又重覆直至上腦為止)

st paul boys係3間入面名氣較大既一間, 我唔肯定佢點揀學生呢? 應該係outspoken而又坐得定既學生(印象中好似interview時特登叫學生坐梳化睇佢地定唔定的, 唔知有無記錯), 想入都唔易架, 聽講話學校對學生都唔算束縛, 校園生活都幾開心, 係傳統教學
不過同時聽過有家長話, 咁貴學費又唔係特別academically outstanding, 唔抵wor (唔係我講架!! 我唔同意架)

作者: nnfonder 時間: 08-1-9 14:56

我有同事係港大同學會o既家長, 佢就係buy 呢d "新教學法"所以俾個囡囡讀呢間學校, 點知讀到p.4 都係要轉去國際學校, 咁聽我同事講呢, 佢話學校就話鼓勵同學多閱讀, 但最終都係同主流學校一樣咁谷, 所以如果三間都收你o既話, 我係你就一定唔揀呢間.反正都係要谷, 我就寧願搵間有名o既學校喇.

作者: okwong 時間: 08-1-10 01:03 標題: Thank you for Charlotte_mom's information

It's good I have asked the right person.  You are the
parent of hkuga.  May I ask which class your kid is in?
Whether you consider you have made the right or the
wrong decision to let your kid to study in this school?
Why?  If you have the chance to choose again now, will
you choose hkuga again out of the 3 schools [hkuga v
Raimondi v St Paul boys]?

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利益申報: 我係hkuga家長
如果比較傳統學校, hkuga學生的確係唔可以用"知規守禮"黎形容, 學校從來唔要求學生要follow strict rules, 俾好多空間佢地去錯去學, 所以學生亦唔會怕老師, 大家係處於一個有商有量既位置
o ...

作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 08-1-10 17:09

哈, 問題假設無效--我個係女

我暫時都未後悔俾個女入hkuga, 始終佢provide既training, 出面又未必provide到, 例如訓練到小朋友夠膽去錯, 有d傳統學校, 郁d就記過, 大交叉, 小朋友真係步步為營, 對佢學習心態亦有影響
每間學校都有利與弊, 差左家長點去排priority姐!我都鐘意st paul boys架, 因為聽聞自由度幾大 (my keyboard is getting mad again...), if my boy is smart, I may try to apply SPB a few years later. For me, a happy school life is important after all.
I have to say, the secondary section of HKUGA is still new, and many policies are still undergoing setup. And I may think of applying another secondary school for my daughter is anything goes wrong. But still, for the time being, my daughter is having a happy and fruitful school life and I have no regrets at all.

原文章由 okwong 於 08-1-10 01:03 AM 發表
It's good I have asked the right person. You are the
parent of hkuga. May I ask which class your kid is in?
Whether you consider you have made the right or the
wrong decision to let your kid to s ...

作者: 返工媽 時間: 08-1-11 12:41

nnfounder:

咁你同事個細路後來去了哪間國際學校?

作者: savoy 時間: 08-1-11 15:13

原文章由 nnfonder 於 08-1-9 14:56 發表
我有同事係港大同學會o既家長, 佢就係buy 呢d "新教學法"所以俾個囡囡讀呢間學校, 點知讀到p.4 都係要轉去國際學校, 咁聽我同事講呢, 佢話學校就話鼓勵同學多閱讀, 但最終都係同主流學校一樣咁谷, 所以如果三間都收 ...

It is true that students from P.3 onward are required to set a certain target on academic subjects but it never considered to be demanding when comparing with traditional school. Average 3 to 4 pieces of homework a day, 3 times assessment each year, Eng/Chi dictation is taken every twice weeks, around 3 to 4 projects a year and group project instead, no elite class system.... demanding or not? It depends on parent' wish whether they want their children to be more outstanding or score higher on school report. I have never felt hkuga deviates from school mission but I put pressure on myself once a while while I found my son did not perform well on his work.

Well, choose a school has reputation with track record may feel more safe and in line with public opinion because we are trained to be like that. Just like if you are not a person who agrees general suffrage, you are thought to be an odd person. So very agree to 宏媽 that "choose a school that best fit his personality."

[ 本文章最後由 savoy 於 08-1-11 15:15 編輯 ]

作者: 返工媽 時間: 08-1-11 16:51

Hong Kong is now under transition period that our future or our next generation’s future will certainly be affected.
We can no longer be restricted to our own origin – Hong Kong but to think with global vision.
Many of my friends’ graduated children are now choosing to work in Macau, Singapore, Mainland China or UK.
If they are not proactive enough, they might easily loose grab of chances. Of course, they experience being an exceptional or different person in their group.
Only their self-confidence might help them to stand up straight and to face new challenges of all levels.
Synergy might occur if we and our children can get alone well with the chosen school.
The point is not which to choose but which one we can do our best.

作者: okwong 時間: 08-1-12 00:52

You are right that we have to choose a school that our
children can do the best, but the problem is: it is not easy
to know which school he can do the best?  How about
their related secondary schools? HKUGA v Raimondi v
St Paul Boys, which one is better?

Just a game to play, if full mark is 10.  How many marks will you give to St Paul co-ed, St Paul Boys, HKUGA,
Raimondi, Wah Yan, St Joseph and DBS, after taking
into account of their own good and bad factors.

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Hong Kong is now under transition period that our future or our next generation’s future will certainly be affected.
We can no longer be restricted to our own origin – Hong Kong but to think with g ...

作者: 返工媽 時間: 08-1-12 13:14

I've chosen HKUGA College for my child.

作者: 已刪除用戶 時間: 08-1-12 23:21

最終考到拿? 我之前o係中學版都有聽過你既故事, 希望呢個係正確既選擇啦
至於邊間學校"最好", 我覺得無謂比較, 譬如話, 拔萃好唔好? 我唸十個有十個都話好, 包括我自己, 不過睇返我小朋友, 完全唔係有鬥心果隻, 俾佢符碌碌左入去, 都唔知捱唔捱得上, 所以, for我, 呢個唔係適合既選擇
又例如st paul co-ed, 除左academic成就, 我就特別欣賞佢地學生d"大將之風", 果時我都有同個女apply, 去過學校幾次, 無論校長, 學生, 老師, 校工, 都係謙謙有禮, 令我好難忘, 相比之下, 拔萃就似乎有d氣焰迫人既感覺, 唔通因為咁, 拔萃唔好咩?
要比較每間學校, 當中包含太多主觀因素了

原文章由 返工媽 於 08-1-12 01:14 PM 發表
I've chosen HKUGA College for my child.

作者: 返工媽 時間: 08-1-13 13:30

係呀!  都是因為考慮到以下幾點:

1.  我在小朋友的學習上，希望能給予支持和鼓勵，能引發討論，而不是要主導什至take over了小朋友學習。因我有感整個小學階段，全力負擔起小朋友的課文教授、功課及測考，若稍有跟不足，我自己的小朋友是不可以在學校亨受到學習成果。(從朋友處得知該校學生的projects都是在校內完成(不是帶回家給家長做)，及學校十分主張把學習交還給學生。

2.  容許從錯誤中學習，十分欣賞校長及老師對學生犯錯的處理手法，所謂失敗乃成功之母，錯過自會學懂，並應從錯處學習怎樣矯正，並聯想所犯之錯誤的影響

3.  學習語言及環境: 多外籍老師及來自國際學校的學生。如果要在一個全中文的環境學英文，我想會事倍功半吧。

4.  剛巧學校離我家較近，可省下車程

以上也許是我愚昧之見，但我必會細心觀察小朋友的學習及成長，從傍指導，並與學校配合，

作者: nnfonder 時間: 08-1-18 16:38

原文章由 返工媽 於 08-1-11 12:41 發表
nnfounder:

咁你同事個細路後來去了哪間國際學校?

唔好意思, 我唔知點至睇得返呢個thread, 所以依家至答你, 我同事個囡囡依家讀梗蘇浙國際呀.

作者: 返工媽 時間: 08-1-19 10:32

做家長的總是尋尋覓覓，為兒女的學業而憂心。我也十分慶幸有bk這交流的地方。

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