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作者: $1010 時間: 07-12-28 23:11 標題: 單親媽媽想帶仔女到外國留學

我係一個單親媽媽
大仔十一歲細女七歲
好希望仔女可以到外國讀書，但我唔放心
而且亦冇乜錢
有咩國家係比較容易收生，同埋我可以過去做野供養佢地同陪住佢地？
我願意放棄香港所有野，只要佢地可以有好前途
最好學費平或零學費
但佢兩個而家都係小學生，我希望大仔升中前俾佢係外國讀
我真係唔想掉低佢兩個自己去外國

希望有人幫到我

作者: $1010 時間: 07-12-28 23:13

仲想知道當地既住宿問題
租金貴嗎？到當地打工人工又夠供養小朋友讀書嗎？ｔｈｘ

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 07-12-29 03:22

你有無咩特別技能﹐ 或者可以做投資移民之類?

因為如果你申請一般 visa 過去都吾可以打工架窩。你要用移民身份﹐ 或者你系外國搵到公司請你﹐ 幫你申請 working visa 先得架窩。

吾系話吾可以陪個仔﹐ 不過如果你要搵埋野做就一系有移民身份一系有 working visa.

你又吾想比學費既話﹐ 甘即系留學生身份吾岩你拉﹐ at least, 美國英國個 D 就吾得喇。我知道有 D 歐洲國家留學生系吾洗比學費﹐ 但你又要過到去做野﹐ 我估系難難難。一系你現在開始申請移民或者仲有機會

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 07-12-29 03:26

我仲想講﹐ 可能你吾岩聽
你 D 要求其實真系好難全部實現﹐ 系類似又要馬兒好又要馬兒不吃草。你希望距地有好學校﹐ 又希望你自己有份工 support 距地﹐ 又希望比好少或者吾需要比學費﹐ 然後自己又吾系有好多錢可以吾洗做供距地讀書。

可能你會覺得我好似講得好衰甘
不過呢個系事實﹐ 呢個世界無甘完美。

[ 本文章最後由大豬既老婆於 07-12-29 03:32 編輯 ]

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 07-12-29 03:31

原文章由 $1010 於 07-12-28 23:13 發表
仲想知道當地既住宿問題
租金貴嗎？到當地打工人工又夠供養小朋友讀書嗎？ｔｈｘ

其實 depends on 你做咩工
先吾好講話你可吾可以拿到工作資格﹐ 就算你拿到﹐ 講真如果你做普通文員仔﹐ 要 1 個養 3 個邊度都吾容易。除非你系拿到身份就立刻申請救濟。

作者: kayan_329 時間: 07-12-30 13:09

$1010~其實真係唔易o架一係你做非法移民不過好有大o既風險 (1)因為未必個個有得比居留,(2)未必有人請你返工 (3)大吉利事咁講如果有事有D地方要有醫療卡先可以睇得醫生ka (3)你D仔女o既學校問題...... 仲之真係要有好多野顧慮仲要去一D人生路不熟o既地方一個女人帶住兩個仔女都好慘o架!! 其實不同國家都有唔同o既好處同壞處我都係一個學生我去o左加拿大讀書都一年我一年所有費都要二十幾萬我係申請visa去果時都要好多証明又要睇我屋企人做咩野工睇入息証明又要睇你屋企供唔供得起我不過我讀o左一年就返o左香港而家我又想七月返去我諗返去o既原因~我可能唔捨得D朋友,覺得D環境幾好(只係夏天,冬天就冬死我咁制) 我想完成埋我個D科目!!不過我就冇打算移民我只係想係香港搵份人工高o既工同搵錢環遊世界lor(自己都有些少發夢不過真係我o既夢想)~~或者你可以叫你個仔去用visa身份讀書先到時再攪你地去......不過我覺得做難民果D制唔過ah~~ 你要為你d仔女著想!!

作者: awah112 時間: 07-12-30 16:05

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作者: EVA222 時間: 07-12-31 11:44

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作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 08-1-1 03:22

原文章由 EVA222 於 07-12-31 11:44 發表
你的夢想很難實現,去到世界任何一個角落,無錢不行,英美澳加紐不用想了,歐洲有些學費很低廉,有些成年人隻身走過去讀書,以為做兼職可支撐,發現行不通,不精通當地語言,只能從事厭惡工作,而且時薪低,未必夠日常開銷,想像 ...

很同意

要知道其他國家都吾系開善堂
無錢真系鬼都吾彩你

其實留系香港繼續讀都無咩吾好姐
只要小朋系努力讀書一定會有出人頭地既一日

作者: iberia 時間: 08-1-1 08:47

原文章由 大豬既老婆 於 08-1-1 03:22 發表

很同意

要知道其他國家都吾系開善堂
無錢真系鬼都吾彩你

其實留系香港繼續讀都無咩吾好姐
只要小朋系努力讀書一定會有出人頭地既一日

Happy New Year!!!

What is the purpose to do that?? You can find soem school in Europe like Sweden are FOC. But the living cost is very high. If you do have a special skill then you can be survive. Otherwise, you can do the babysit if you know their language. At least you can have someone to provide the shelter for you for at least 2 months to 1/2 year. You can find a dirty job easily if you can do that. Also you will become an illegal immigrant starting from your landing.

I have been living abroad many years, I saw a lot of illegal immgrant has an unerasable memory. All kind of this story will make you crying easily. You know how many illegaly immigrant in Europe. most of them are came from China.

Pls be careful and consider it serioursly. Is that worth to do that. Once you did that, don't look back. A lot of people al

作者: ratafan 時間: 08-1-1 22:34

Hi, many many years ago, my brother went to France to study. it's free of charge. He just said very little French at that time (he learnt together with myself at Alliance Francais but I finally decided not to go with him). He started there all over again from junior school (actually he was already form six but need to start from form two at the very beginning). Soon, he got fast-promoted. He finally completed degree, master and M Phil. He then found a job in France, now already relocated to HK. But this is a very exceptional story, but don't be disappointed! I think there are quite some successful stories there.
In France, the standard of living is quite high, but still manageable. But you need to be very diligent to ensure you get into the public schools and find a place close to the school to save travelling costs. For food, just buy some simple stuff from supermarket and make it at home.
But I sometimes would think that France is quite a good place for studying compared to HK, cos your kids could have a bigger exposure to very famous literatures and study other countries' history, which is quite useful to get more insight on other countries' cultural background.

原文章由 iberia 於 08-1-1 08:47 發表

Happy New Year!!!

What is the purpose to do that?? You can find soem school in Europe like Sweden are FOC. But the living cost is very high. If you do have a special skill then you can be survive. ...

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 08-1-2 04:13

I believe you have misunderstood 樓主.
去外國讀書再要吾需要學費其實都做得到
我知道好多歐洲國家都系有零學費。
但問題系距仔女讀書﹐ 距要打工﹐ 呢下就吾同講法
study visa 系比 working visa 容易拿﹐ 所以如果距吾想同仔女分開﹐ 最好辦法都系留系香港。

作者: ratafan 時間: 08-1-2 08:22

i just want to get more info to 樓主
My mother at the age of 50 also got a working visa at that point of time.

原文章由 大豬既老婆 於 08-1-2 04:13 發表
I believe you have misunderstood 樓主.
去外國讀書再要吾需要學費其實都做得到
我知道好多歐洲國家都系有零學費。
但問題系距仔女讀書﹐ 距要打工﹐ 呢下就吾同講 ...

作者: EVA222 時間: 08-1-2 10:20

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作者: dodo199906 時間: 08-1-3 00:16 標題: 回覆 #2 ratafan 的文章

ratafan,

請問你細佬係法國嘅生活費約幾錢一年？而佢要讀番中二同d同學咪好難相處？比多4年生活費，完成大學係唔係要7年？咁會唔會唔平過去澳洲好多？阿女係法國文化協會學咗成年，停咗幾個月，都有想過如果考唔上大學，去法國得唔得，如果行得通就豉勵佢再讀番，好叫有多條出路，請比意見，謝謝！呀！你媽媽係味跟埋去呀？攞倒工作簽証？謝謝！

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 08-1-3 02:14

原文章由 ratafan 於 08-1-2 08:22 發表
i just want to get more info to 樓主
My mother at the age of 50 also got a working visa at that point of time.

甘你媽咪個時同埋你 brother 過去?
可能我吾熟識歐洲既制度拉。
不過我系吾覺得系香港畢業就會低人一等﹐ 何必要甘樣出國讀書。如果你話出國去一 D 好出名既學校﹐ 我覺得人望高處﹐ 自己負擔得到既吾系問題。但如果單單有一個錯覺系出國讀書﹐ 無論出咩國﹐ 讀邊間都好﹐ 出一出國就一定勁 D﹐ 甘我就覺得無必要。

我絕對吾系話你 brother 個時甘做吾岩﹐ 只不過我如果就樓主既情況﹐ 我就會甘覺得。

作者: iberia 時間: 08-1-3 12:48

原文章由 ratafan 於 08-1-1 22:34 發表
Hi, many many years ago, my brother went to France to study. it's free of charge. He just said very little French at that time (he learnt together with myself at Alliance Francais but I finally deci ...

Hi;

從她第一個Blog後, 她從未出現過, 此人目的何在.
再者這一些行動要計劃周詳, 並不是一時以氣用事.

除了英'美加澳之外, 所有國家都要考慮語言問題, 没有預備, 没有親戚或朋友, 可能性非常低,因没有落腳地方.

本人大部份時都在外面生活, 有以下國家美國
/ 加拿大 / 中美洲 / 西班牙 / 英國
/ 斯里蘭卡 / 菲律賓 / 台灣, 對這些國家有一些了解, 請記住做一個新移民不容易, 做一個非法移民更加困難, 其實香港已經非常好, 有免費醫療 / 教育, 生活費不高, 外國的月光比較圓, 但外國的問題亦不少, 有毒品
/ 性問題
, 再者為何小朋友在小學階段要去外國讀書. 我計劃待小兒讀到中四才讓他回美國讀高中, 因在香港可以學到紀律.

更重要您們一家三口, 無疾病還可以, 當有疾病時, 那裏付担得了, 請三思.
您可以做非法移民去打工, 但小朋友無証件, 怎可以上學呢!!!! 現在美國没有証件不可以上國內機, 什麼都要証件, 在911後什麼都收綆了,

作者: ratafan 時間: 08-1-3 14:12

iberia, i don't understand your meaning?
i was too busy at work didn't have the time to browse internet all the time. don't misunderstand

原文章由 iberia 於 08-1-3 12:48 發表

Hi;

從她第一個Blog後, 她從未出現過, 此人目的何在.
再者這一些行動要計劃周詳, 並不是一時以氣用事.

除了英'美加澳之外, 所有國家都要考慮語言問題, 没有預備, 没有親戚或朋友, 可能性非常低,因没有落腳地方 ...

作者: ratafan 時間: 08-1-3 14:17

the case of my brother was that he couldn't get good results in HKCEE,so he was afraid couldn't get into university in HK. And at that time we learnt that study in France is free of charge, while studing in US, Australia are so expensive which we couldn't afford.
so my mother helped both me and him try to look for France, but I don't like it after visiting, I like metropolitan places like HK and I managed to get a place in one of the 3 universities in HK. so I finally decieded to stay and my brother go. My mother went with him there, got a job as a cook there. very tough life, but simple and happy. And my brother, in such a difficult environment, finally worked it out by his diligence. he got places at universities and got a job in a bank there. now relocated to the HK branch and staying in HK for good lar. So don't be upset, there're always way out for success.
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原文章由 dodo199906 於 08-1-3 00:16 發表
ratafan,

請問你細佬係法國嘅生活費約幾錢一年？而佢要讀番中二同d同學咪好難相處？比多4年生活費，完成大學係唔係要7年？咁會唔會唔平過去澳洲好多？阿女係法國文化協會學咗成年，停咗幾個月，都有想過如果考唔上大學，去法國得唔 ...

作者: dodo199906 時間: 08-1-4 00:49 標題: 回覆 #1 ratafan 的文章

thanks ratafan

作者: virgokaren 時間: 08-1-4 03:06

原文章由 ratafan 於 08-1-3 14:17 發表
the case of my brother was that he couldn't get good results in HKCEE,so he was afraid couldn't get into university in HK. And at that time we learnt that study in France is free of charge, while stu ...

嘩！你媽媽都犧性好大喎！
你哥哥(or弟弟？)考完HKCEE至去，都有16-17歲，你媽媽都肯陪佢去捱.....真係偉大！
咁當時留低你一個係香港？
你媽媽拿邊種visa係果邊工作？

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 08-1-4 07:00

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-1-4 03:06 發表

嘩！你媽媽都犧性好大喎！
你哥哥(or弟弟？)考完HKCEE至去，都有16-17歲，你媽媽都肯陪佢去捱.....真係偉大！
咁當時留低你一個係香港？
你媽媽拿邊種visa係果邊工作？ ...

距話做 cook.
一般到國外拿 working visa, 有一 D 特別技能系容易 D。
廚師都系其中一樣。

作者: $1010 時間: 08-1-4 09:25

多謝大家咁詳細細心解答～
現在我開始安排幫大仔搵學校，我同細女就會遲ｄ先去
我又未至於無錢過去，我都有一筆積蓄。但我要放棄香港的工作，自然就要再找工作。
如今你地話要到外地做野係咁難，咁我都係想大仔出國讀中學，仲有兩年時間，而家慢慢安排，即使中一去唔到，都希望中三之前，我同細女就遲少少去．．．

其實我從來都唔係覺得香港讀書會低人一等，只不過香港壓力大，我不滿意香港的教育制度。每個人諗法都唔同，點解想去海外留學總有每個人的原因，我就只想兒女可以輕輕鬆鬆學習，輕輕鬆鬆成長。在香港每日的時間都好緊迫，而家唔係我冇時間陪佢地，而係佢地要做功課、要溫書冇時間同我傾偈，佢地勤力絕對係好事，但所有時間都只想住成績，功課，我就覺得壓力太大了。
點都好，多謝你地既分享，解答。

作者: ratafan 時間: 08-1-4 14:11

yes, quite tough for my mother, therefore I really respect her a lot. But now she retired already lar, back to HK to enjoy her living, looking after her grandsons (my sons). However, making a living in HK is not too much easier than in France for an aged woman. HK has too many good cooks, my mother only got a very simple certificate from a HK cooking school. I believe she can't get such a job in HK with that certificate, but in France, yes, because of the logic of demand and supply (limited supply of Chinese cook).
I personally think that 16-17 is too big to go cos it would be harder to get into a totally new environment and study another language. perhaps form 1 or 2 is better.

原文章由 virgokaren 於 08-1-4 03:06 發表

嘩！你媽媽都犧性好大喎！
你哥哥(or弟弟？)考完HKCEE至去，都有16-17歲，你媽媽都肯陪佢去捱.....真係偉大！
咁當時留低你一個係香港？
你媽媽拿邊種visa係果邊工作？ ...

作者: kayan_329 時間: 08-1-5 01:10

$1010~其實人地話易我就唔多覺讀書都一定要溫先可以有好成績外國o既可能多數都有多D旅行但係D功課都好多o下我朋友仲係canada讀緊grade11-grade12o既course 佢都話做到想死!!

作者: 大豬既老婆 時間: 08-1-5 02:48

原文章由 $1010 於 08-1-4 09:25 發表
多謝大家咁詳細細心解答～
現在我開始安排幫大仔搵學校，我同細女就會遲ｄ先去
我又未至於無錢過去，我都有一筆積蓄。但我要放棄香港的工作，自然就要再找工作。
如今你地話要到外地做野係咁難，咁我都係想大仔出國讀中學，仲有兩 ...

你其实系target紧咩国家呢？

作者: iberia 時間: 08-1-11 17:13

原文章由 $1010 於 08-1-4 09:25 發表
多謝大家咁詳細細心解答～
現在我開始安排幫大仔搵學校，我同細女就會遲ｄ先去
我又未至於無錢過去，我都有一筆積蓄。但我要放棄香港的工作，自然就要再找工作。
如今你地話要到外地做野係咁難，咁我都係想大仔出國讀中學，仲有兩 ...

Hi :

請不要為了香港讀書大壓力便要去外國, 妳這樣做會教壞小朋友, 使他學會逃避, 亦給他錯誤訊息, 外國讀書一樣大壓力, 如果外國讀書無壓力, 人人都出國啦!!!!!

我們特別從美國回來, 是因那裡太緃小朋友, 再者我要他們學好中文, 下一個世紀是中國人世紀.

如果無壓力, 人那裡會成長, 不要太保護小朋友, 所謂經一事長一智.
我兩公婆都在北美唸大學, 不怎麼感覺容易, 太小到外國唸書會容易學壞, 我們會在他唸中四時才讓他回美國唸高中. 很多新移民從中國到美國都有很多辛酸史, 父母在唐人街餐館做辛苦工,小孩在唐人街同黑社會玩, 最後一粒子彈便無命, 小孩最須要父母一同成長.

作者: awah112 時間: 08-1-11 21:41

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作者: Goody 時間: 08-1-11 22:09

係呀，其實係外國要讀好學校咪一樣咁大壓力，d 人咪一樣為左入名學校而搬屋，入好大學咪一樣睇成績睇分數，重要最好的大學係私立0既，學費貴到死！

原文章由 iberia 於 08-1-11 17:13 發表

Hi :

請不要為了香港讀書大壓力便要去外國, 妳這樣做會教壞小朋友, 使他學會逃避, 亦給他錯誤訊息, 外國讀書一樣大壓力, 如果外國讀書無壓力, 人人都出國啦!!!!!

我們特別從美國回來, 是因那裡太緃小朋友, 再 ...

作者: 我愛Corina 時間: 08-1-12 07:17

我想分享下..我本身都係外國讀uni and移民左..
我唔覺得外國d大學特別好,除左真係好top果d啦..其實呢邊讀書都係要讀,不過真係冇hk咁大壓力...玩多囉..
好既學校(watever private or public),都係要爭位,一出世就要去apply,都未必有位呀!我都擔心緊我個b呀

...如果private既,學費都好貴...但係為個女好都冇辦法

如果你唔係EEA/EU既合法居民,讀大學既學費都幾貴下,計埋住宿既話,閒閒地一年20幾萬

所以而家我都plan緊比個女返hk讀下幼稚園,遲d先帶返過黎讀書,等佢醒目d同學d中文...同學習下hk人做野既性格..
我覺得d鬼仔都唔係咁醒目,做野又慢...

仲有,我唔知其他EU/EEA國家係咪咁,我呢度而家係超級難拎working visa,除非你有某d skills,而又有公司幫你申請...
同埋歐洲生活指數好高,屋又貴,冇車又唔方便,我唔係有親戚係度照住,我都會好辛苦...:)

作者: kayan_329 時間: 08-1-12 13:16

我愛Corina~你係邊個國家ah...我姐姐係英國

作者: 我愛Corina 時間: 08-1-12 22:47

原文章由 kayan_329 於 08-1-12 05:16 發表
我愛Corina~你係邊個國家ah...我姐姐係英國

我係愛爾蘭呀..

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