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作者: ABCD5678    時間: 07-12-16 23:14     標題: 有否取 DBS 而放棄 SPCC ?

(1) 請問各位被取錄的 DBS 家長們,您們的小朋友有否同時被 SPCC 取錄 ?

(2) 請問您們最終會選那一間 ?

[ 本文章最後由 ABCD5678 於 07-12-16 23:39 編輯 ]
作者: piyopiyohoho    時間: 07-12-17 11:46     標題: DBS Vs SPCC - a difficult decision

Dear ABCD5678,

I guess you have come to the same difficult situation choosing between DBS and SPCC. It is too good if we could have some sharing.

Our son is lucky enough to have been accepted by SPC, SPCC and DBS.  Despite being an old boy of SPC, I have already given up SPC for personal reasons.  We have yet to make up our minds between SPCC and DBS. Here is my preliminary assessment: -

(1) Curriculum - both stress on little pressure, multi-intelligence or whole person development, though the general impression is that SPCC tends to put comparatively more weight on academic achievement whereas DBS places more emphasis on extra-curricular activities.
(2) SPCC is a Chinese Primary school, though we all know her English teaching resources are even better than most of the "English" Primary schools. Students are expected to use more English in DBS but of course, to a certain extent, at the expenses of Chinese lanauage development which is increasingly important these days.
(3) Teaching resources and teaching staff - comparable
(4) Physical environment – comparable (brand new campus for SPCC in 08/09, DBS's campus is also new for just a few years and has the advantage of sharing the Secondary school campus esp. grass pitch).
(5) as far as I know SPCC allows secondary students (F4-6) to choose IB programme (see prospectus). DBS has not made such pledge. Anyway this is too remote and given the trend, I am quite certain that both will embark on IB at least for the upper secondary forms.
(6) On the soft side, have you ever seen DBS and SPCC competing against each other in Music Festival (say Orchestra)? When SPCC won, the students go up the stage, get the award, smile, bow decently and courteously.  When DBS won, students go up the stage, get the award, hold their fists and shouted "Yes!".  Perhaps this could give you an idea - one is always courteous and upright, the other is full of passion.

The above may be wrong or is just my impression. Parents of DBS and SPCC are most welcome to give us some ideas.  

Cheers
  
   


作者: chanwk    時間: 07-12-17 20:53     標題: 回覆 #2 piyopiyohoho 的文章

Not so difficult ,I think you have made your choice.thank for your sharing.
作者: lemonred    時間: 07-12-17 21:39

一間學校係香港, 一間係九龍, 是否都要睇下返學的路程而定?
一間男校, 一間男女校? 點揀好?




原文章由 piyopiyohoho 於 07-12-17 11:46 發表
Dear ABCD5678,

I guess you have come to the same difficult situation choosing between DBS and SPCC. It is too good if we could have some sharing.

Our son is lucky enough to have been accepted by SP ...

作者: 美人一號    時間: 07-12-17 22:18

其實如果係睇地點,就唔會咁頭痛,香港米揀SPCC,九龍揀DB。

但當地點唔重要時,就更難揀,其實兩間都係好學校,但SPCC比DB更學術,而男女校就始終氣氛會好D,可能冇咁agressive。
好多人話男仔應揀SPCC
女就揀DGS
作者: piyopiyohoho    時間: 07-12-17 22:34

Hi Chanwk,

To be frank, we haven't made up our mind.  You said I have already chosen. May I listen to your advice, please?  

For 美人一號, shouldn't our new generation (especially boys) be more agressive and forthcoming?

P.S. location is not a problem and we can move home if necessary.  

Thanks.
作者: 美人一號    時間: 07-12-17 22:45

所以米話取向問題,各有各喜歡,及各有各優點。我會較喜歡男仔文質彬彬d,當然良性競爭都係好事,但能在互勵互免環境下成長,我自己會覺得開心d。
spcc雖然話著重學術,但課外活動一d都唔弱,校長話有近八十種可供選擇,加上新校舍,環境都好好。
我自己在面試時,對spcc的staff及老師都有好好印象。
作者: piyopiyohoho    時間: 07-12-17 23:05

原文章由 美人一號 於 07-12-17 22:45 發表
所以米話取向問題,各有各喜歡,及各有各優點。我會較喜歡男仔文質彬彬d,當然良性競爭都係好事,但能在互勵互免環境下成長,我自己會覺得開心d。
spcc雖然話著重學術,但課外活動一d都唔弱,校長話有近八十種可供選擇,加上新校舍,環 ...


Hi Pretty Woman No.1,

It's nice to talk to another SPCC parent-to-be.  I have the same good feeling about the staff and Headmistress, a reflection of their students. My son is good at English but comparatively weak in Chinese.  Do you think it's a problem if I choose SPCC? Did your daughter apply for DGS?

ends.
作者: 美人一號    時間: 07-12-17 23:20

原文章由 piyopiyohoho 於 07-12-17 23:05 發表


Hi Pretty Woman No.1,

It's nice to talk to another SPCC parent-to-be.  I have the same good feeling about the staff and Headmistress, a reflection of their students. My son is good at English but  ...


我估唔會好大問題,其實據我從已讀緊不同小學的家長朋友所得,不論db/dg/spcc響入學初期,程度反而唔算太深,我讀緊dg朋友講,甚至kts/宣道的課程及書本比dg的深,但打好根基之後,就會慢慢加強,所以我相信你仔仔就算揀spcc都唔會追唔上。
據朋友講,dg/db都好鼓勵小朋友自己去求知,所以默書測驗有時會考下d課堂未教過,(所教過相關的野),並且唔會講定幾時測驗,對小朋友都幾大挑戰。其實最終揀邊間,都真係各有各好,好難做決定。
我有考dg,但因仲有個仔,所以dg真係收,到時更難決定。
作者: ABCD5678    時間: 07-12-17 23:42

Dear piyopiyohoho ,

謝謝您的回應和詳盡分析 !

小兒沒有您囝囝標青,他只被 SPCC 取錄。

本人提此問題只為了解會否因  DBS 放榜而令 SPCC 騰出空缺給後備生。囝囝死黨參加了 SPCC 2nd Interview 而未被取錄。

從家長們的回應似暫未有太多因 DBS 而放棄 SPCC 的 case 呢 !

Anyway,祝  您們最終選到真正的最愛 !!

ABCD5678 上


原文章由 piyopiyohoho 於 07-12-17 11:46 發表
Dear ABCD5678,

I guess you have come to the same difficult situation choosing between DBS and SPCC. It is too good if we could have some sharing.

Our son is lucky enough to have been accepted by SP ...

作者: piyopiyohoho    時間: 07-12-17 23:44

原文章由 美人一號 於 07-12-17 23:20 發表


我估唔會好大問題,其實據我從已讀緊不同小學的家長朋友所得,不論db/dg/spcc響入學初期,程度反而唔算太深,我讀緊dg朋友講,甚至kts/宣道的課程及書本比dg的深,但打好根基之後,就會慢慢加強,所以我相信你仔仔就算揀spcc都唔會 ...


Thanks for your kind advice and frank sharing.  Quality parents like you is another good reason for us to choose SPCC.   Do come back to this thread for more discussion later.  

Good night.:loveliness:
作者: piyopiyohoho    時間: 07-12-18 00:26

原文章由 ABCD5678 於 07-12-17 23:42 發表
Dear piyopiyohoho ,

謝謝您的回應和詳盡分析 !

小兒沒有您囝囝標青,他只被 SPCC 取錄。

本人提此問題只為了解會否因  DBS 放榜而令 SPCC 騰出空缺給後備生。囝囝死黨參加了 SPCC 2nd Interview 而未被取錄。

從 ...


Hi ABCD5678  

To me your son is very 標青 for being so caring towards his good friend. Sorry to say that it would not be an easy decision for us and it may take some time.

Best regards,
piyopiyohoho
作者: ABCD5678    時間: 07-12-18 00:37

Hi piyopiyohoho,

Sincerely wishing that you would choose SPCC at last !

It's great to have such nice parents like you and 美人一號 in SPCC.

ABCD5678


原文章由 piyopiyohoho 於 07-12-18 00:26 發表


Hi ABCD5678  

To me your son is very 標青 for being so caring towards his good friend. Sorry to say that it would not be an easy decision for us and it may take some time.

Best regards,
piyopiyoh ...

作者: 美人一號    時間: 07-12-18 00:58

原文章由 piyopiyohoho 於 07-12-17 23:44 發表


Thanks for your kind advice and frank sharing.  Quality parents like you is another good reason for us to choose SPCC.   Do come back to this thread for more discussion later.  

Good night.:lovelin ...


hi hoho/5678

不要客氣,其實我現時很高興因為身邊有一班很樂於互助的幼稚園媽媽,大家常會互相過料,互勵互免,所以希望到了小學都一樣能有多一班這樣的朋友。綜合各方資料,spcc的校內競爭氣氛沒有純男/女名校般強,相對下家長的壓力可能較低,互相交心的機會也較高,相信這樣的環境,大人和小朋友都會開心吧!
作者: poorpapa    時間: 07-12-18 05:39

I know 4 people coming from SPCC.  Their ages are 6x, 40, 35 & P.4.

Believe it or not, their career & academic performance (except P.4 one, who is too young) are all good.  Moreover, their character are all very nice & gentle.

From the father of the P.4 one, the school life of SPCC is real excellent and parents among middle-class group (there are really some very rich families) are going very well & cooperative.

I also believe co-ed is more "normal" as students can have some friends in opposite sex.

If I'm so lucky, I prefer SPCC.  Of course I'm not....

[ 本文章最後由 poorpapa 於 07-12-18 05:43 編輯 ]
作者: 2bbaba    時間: 07-12-18 10:40

各位好!我都有你地既煩惱!

我個人認為SPCC教出來的小朋友會較有規矩及低調,而DBS就較自由、創意較高亦較自信。當然兩校學術方面都同樣出色。

所以我相信兩間學校教出來的學生係兩類完全唔一樣嘅人。如果睇遠D去到大學或之後,佢地將來係事業方面嘅發展都可能好唔同。

我本身為一小商人,如果希望兒子將來從商,咁各位覺得那一間學校會較合適呢?

不過可能我已經想得太遠了......
作者: Parent_C    時間: 07-12-18 12:16

原文章由 piyopiyohoho 於 07-12-17 11:46 發表
Dear ABCD5678,

...
(5) as far as I know SPCC allows secondary students (F4-6) to choose IB programme (see prospectus). DBS has not made such pledge. Anyway this is too remote and given the trend, I am quite certain that both will embark on IB at least for the upper secondary forms.
..


Dear piyopiyohoho,

DBS has made similar pledge for IB program too.  They are going to raise a new building to support this initiative.

By the way, DBS will implement 1 year school boarding during the secondary years.   I think that is quite interesting "training" opportunity for our kids which tends to be rather overly protected nowadays.
作者: papa_pop    時間: 07-12-18 12:21

Despite being a Chinese-medium primary school, students at SPCCPS have a strong command in English.  They have quite a number of NET teachers in school (perhaps even more than those English-medium primary schools).

As someone rightly pointed out, SPCCPS also puts much emphasis on Chinese-language, and they have increased the use of PTH in Chinese lessons in the past few years.  If one prefers a more balanced curriculum in the two languages, SPCC seems to meet his needs.

One more observation, music education has long been a cherished tradition at SPCC - as one might note from their list of alumni being professional musicians.

Interestingly, SPCC is also famous as a birthplace for doctors - as witnessed in the Faculty of Medicine of HKU.

Again, the above are simply observations and are not meant to say SPCC is outrightly better than others.

In fact, I would always take location an important consideration when choosing a "primary" school for my kid.
作者: chubbymami    時間: 07-12-18 12:41

If location is not the issue, you should definitely choose SPCC.  

SPCC is a "well-balanced" school.   

As far as I have come across all the graduates from SPCC, they are all well manner, good educated, elegant.......

SPCC is the best school in Hong Kong (it's only my personal opinion)
作者: piyopiyohoho    時間: 07-12-18 21:08

原文章由 2bbaba 於 07-12-18 10:40 發表
各位好!我都有你地既煩惱!

我個人認為SPCC教出來的小朋友會較有規矩及低調,而DBS就較自由、創意較高亦較自信。當然兩校學術方面都同樣出色。

所以我相信兩間學校教出來的學生係兩類完全唔一樣嘅人。如果睇遠D去到大學 ...


Hi 2bbaba,

Glad to know that someone is in the same difficult situation whom I can share with.  I totally agree with your analysis between the two different styles of SPCC and DBS.
作者: clpp    時間: 07-12-18 22:27

For your reference:

聖保羅男女中學是香港傳統名校,創立於1915年(當時名為「聖保羅女書院」)。早期只收女生,1918年成為香港第一間規定學生必須穿著校服的學校,1945年戰後復課,兼收男女學生,是香港首所男女同校學校,麥當勞道中學校舍被評為香港三級歷史建築。2001年向政府申請成為直接資助學校,成為首間直資中學。

著名校友
李澤鉅-長江實業副主席

李澤楷-電訊盈科主席

李國章,GBSJP-香港教育局局長

李國能-香港終審法院首席法官

劉遵義-香港中文大學校長

潘宗光-香港理工大學校長

蔡克剛-資深大律師

周梁淑怡,GBSJP-香港旅遊發展局主席,香港立法會議員

李家祥-前香港立法會議員

陳啟泰-電視藝員

陳百強-已故歌手

郭偉亮-歌手

雷頌德-音樂人-歌曲-你真強作者

關正傑-歌手

側田-歌手

林敏驄-填詞人

陳司翰-藝人

莊梅岩-編劇

王者匡-Harry哥哥、著名兒童節目主持

羅尚正-音樂人

吳嵩-馬評人

李汶靜-已故無線新聞主播

羅智峰-前線醫生聯盟主席
原文章由 2bbaba 於 07-12-18 10:40 發表
各位好!我都有你地既煩惱!

我個人認為SPCC教出來的小朋友會較有規矩及低調,而DBS就較自由、創意較高亦較自信。當然兩校學術方面都同樣出色。

所以我相信兩間學校教出來的學生係兩類完全唔一樣嘅人。如果睇遠D去到大學 ...

作者: clpp    時間: 07-12-18 22:28

For your reference:

拔萃男書院(簡稱男拔萃、男拔;英語:Diocesan Boys' SchoolDBS)是基督教香港聖公會東九龍教區所設辦的一間學校,成立於1869年,設有中學部以及小學部(2004年建成),只錄取男生。香港不少官商名人於此,學生在公開考試中成績優異,在體育、學業及音樂比賽中均成績驕人,故此是一所有名的學校。拔萃男書院創校初期為私校,第二次世界大戰後,接受政府津貼,成為津貼中學。回歸後,香港政府引入直接資助制度,拔萃男書院校董會最後決定,為減少所受的限制,改為接受政府直接資助,於2003年改為直接資助學校。

著名校友
孫中山:中國國父(短暫就讀)(中一至中三)
張奧偉:資深大律師

何志平:前香港民政事務局局長

林子祥:歌手、演員

田北俊:立法會議員,自由黨主席

田北辰:九廣鐵路主席,製衣商人

張宇人:立法會議員 本校校董

林建名:商人,麗新集團董事

余錦基:商人,公益金委員

何柱國:商人,星島新聞集團主席

楊啟彥:前九廣鐵路行政總裁

湯顯明:香港海關關長

羅智光:香港環境運輸及工務局常任秘書長 1
梁寶榮:香港特別行政區政府駐北京辦事處主任

許威廉:運動員,曾參加1964年東京奧運會

林慕德:作曲家

許浩明:財經界人士

莫天賜:教師,莫文蔚之父

鍾庭耀:香港大學民意研究部主任

方東昇:香港著名新聞主播

廖忠平:香港著名新聞主播

呂秉權:香港著名新聞主播

李臻:香港著名新聞主播

杜汶澤:演員原名吳卓彰

鄧梓峰:電視節目司儀

李傳韻:小提琴家

張灼祥:現任拔萃男書院校長,作家,電臺節目主持

霍建寧:和記黃埔有限公司董事總經理

范鴻齡:現任香港行政會議成員,強制性公積金計劃管理局主席,中信泰富董事總經理(中六至中七就讀)
伍樂城:香港著名音樂監製,作曲人

劉家傑:香港著名英語教師,前香港無線電視新聞報導員

彭鍵基:香港著名法官,現任香港選舉管理委員會主席

鄭耀宗:香港大學的前任校長

羅旭龢:香港第一位華人官守太平紳士,香港實業家

列顯倫:香港著名法官

羅智光:香港政制及內地事務局常任秘書長何柱國

何柱國:全國政協委員,星島新聞集團有限公司主席
原文章由 2bbaba 於 07-12-18 10:40 發表
各位好!我都有你地既煩惱!

我個人認為SPCC教出來的小朋友會較有規矩及低調,而DBS就較自由、創意較高亦較自信。當然兩校學術方面都同樣出色。

所以我相信兩間學校教出來的學生係兩類完全唔一樣嘅人。如果睇遠D去到大學 ...

作者: eileenycm    時間: 07-12-18 23:05

我想知道呢兩間小學是否有教育資優兒童嘅配套?邊間較為喜歡
取錄資優生?
作者: lemonred    時間: 07-12-31 11:13

大家揀好未, dbs or spcc?
作者: TL128    時間: 07-12-31 17:25

lemonred,
SPCC
作者: lemonred    時間: 07-12-31 21:06

Glad to hear you have made your decision. 衷心祝福你的小朋友讀得開心, 學有所成.
原文章由 TL128 於 07-12-31 17:25 發表
lemonred,
SPCC

作者: himmamme    時間: 08-1-1 13:53

原文章由 papa_pop 於 07-12-18 12:21 發表
Despite being a Chinese-medium primary school, students at SPCCPS have a strong command in English.  They have quite a number of NET teachers in school (perhaps even more than those English-medium pri ...


How many NET in schools? How's their arrangement of English lessons?
作者: youma    時間: 08-1-1 16:44

I disagree in one point.

The academic training in SPCC is better than that in DBSPS, in my observation.



原文章由 2bbaba 於 07-12-18 10:40 發表
各位好!我都有你地既煩惱!

我個人認為SPCC教出來的小朋友會較有規矩及低調,而DBS就較自由、創意較高亦較自信。當然兩校學術方面都同樣出色...

作者: himmamme    時間: 08-1-1 17:35

Could u share more on this point? Heard that the syll. of DBSPD is quite advance. And the standard is also high. Really want to have a clear picture of both schools.
原文章由 youma 於 08-1-1 16:44 發表
I disagree in one point.

The academic training in SPCC is better than that in DBSPS, in my observation.


[ 本文章最後由 himmamme 於 08-1-1 17:37 編輯 ]
作者: TL128    時間: 08-1-1 23:41

lemonred,
Million thanks for your blessing!
Hope you can make a best decision and God bless your family in all aspects!

TL128
作者: youma    時間: 08-1-2 10:59

Yes, the exam papers of DBSPS are generally quite “advanced” and well structured. But the problems are at the “teaching”.

1.
If you are a DBSPS parent, you will find the boys not learning much knowledge at lessons. Teachers usually teach part of the curriculum but not all and comprehensive.
2.
If a boy is going to have sports or Orchestra competitions etc., the school will demand the boy to suspend classroom lessons and to practise. Sometimes the suspension can last for 1-2 weeks.
3.
Almost all parents send their boys to “supplementary schools” 補習社.
4.
It is a boy school. Classroom discipline is another problem.
5.
In SPCC, these phenomena are less apparent.

However, the general English standard (in particular the listening and speaking skills) of DBSPS boys is excellent because the non-Chinese lessons and most ECA are conducted in English.

Maybe my info is not update enough. Please ask a DBSPS parent.

原文章由 TL128 於 08-1-1 23:41 發表
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作者: himmamme    時間: 08-1-2 11:49

原文章由 youma 於 08-1-2 10:59 發表
Yes, the exam papers of DBSPS are generally quite “advanced” and well structured. But the problems are at the “teaching”.

1.
If you are a DBSPS parent, you will find the boys not learning much k ...


thank you for your sharing.
How about SPCC? Really want to know more about their situation. Especially how's the English teaching there.

thx!
作者: redhot    時間: 08-1-2 12:03

Same opinions as my friend who is a parent of DBSPD.


原文章由 youma 於 08-1-2 10:59 發表
Yes, the exam papers of DBSPS are generally quite “advanced” and well structured. But the problems are at the “teaching”.

1.
If you are a DBSPS parent, you will find the boys not learning much k ...

作者: everyma    時間: 08-1-2 20:26

1. If you are a DBSPS parent, you will find the boys not learning much knowledge at lessons. Teachers usually teach part of the curriculum but not all and comprehensive. It is a common phenonmenon for most primary schools in HK, though some may claim to have all their curricula taught, their teaching are not merely superficial.

2. If a boy is going to have sports or Orchestra competitions etc., the school will demand the boy to suspend classroom lessons and to practise. Sometimes the suspension can last for 1-2 weeks. Participating in sport or orchestra competition is wholly optional, if boys once have made their choice, they are found to be able to manage their time for both study and practice.

3. Almost all parents send their boys to “supplementary schools” 補習社. Amongst all  parents I have known, I find none having sending their boys to tutorial classes whereasmy relative's daughter, who is now studying at SPCC, has to attend tutorial class after school.

4. It is a boy school. Classroom discipline is another problem. I agree with this but it is controllable, after all they are all energetic boys .

5. In SPCC, these phenomena are less apparent. I have no idea.


All the above is my personal view, welcome parents to share theirs .
作者: himmamme    時間: 08-1-4 09:50

DBSPD: EMI school,but there are only 4-5 native English teachers,many students cannot be taught by NET

SPCC: CMI school,but more native English teachers,all the students have chance to be taught by NET (don't know is it correct)

DBSPD: Teach Chinese in Cantonese, only 2-3 Chinese lessons taught in PTH per week (P1-P6)

SPCC: Teach Chinese in Cantonese(P1-P3),all Chinese lessons in P4-P6 are taught in PTH

Correct me if I'm wrong.
作者: papa_pop    時間: 08-1-4 12:22

From my observation, students at SPCCPS, though a CMI school, are really good at English and PTH.  There are somehow quite a number of NET teachers in school, plus a PTH-teacher/assistant in each class (at least for lower forms).

Don't have much first-hand experience with DBSPD students, but students at DPS (Kowloon Tong), an EMI school, are not really impressive in terms of their spoken English.

PS: I didn't refer to "individual" cases, but general impression.
作者: youma    時間: 08-1-5 15:46

I am surprised to receive one defense only.

1.
DBSPS 家長所講, DBSPS考得深, 教得淺, 所以幾乎全民皆補, 補費平均$300-800一句鐘.
2.
還有, 比賽前老師[勸諭]學生走堂練習, 學生那敢不從?
3.
你是校長,老師定小一家長?


原文章由 everyma 於 08-1-2 20:26 發表
1. If you are a DBSPS parent, you will find the boys not learning much knowledge at lessons. Teachers usually teach part of the curriculum but not all and comprehensive. It is a common phenonmenon for most primary schools in HK, though some may claim to have all their curricula taught, their teaching are not merely superficial.

2. If a boy is going to have sports or Orchestra competitions etc., the school will demand the boy to suspend classroom lessons and to practise. Sometimes the suspension can last for 1-2 weeks. Participating in sport or orchestra competition is wholly optional, if boys once have made their choice, they are found to be able to manage their time for both study and practice.

3. Almost all parents send their boys to “supplementary schools” 補習社. Amongst all  parents I have known, I find none having sending their boys to tutorial classes whereasmy relative's daughter, who is now studying at SPCC, has to attend tutorial class after school.

[ 本文章最後由 youma 於 08-1-5 18:55 編輯 ]
作者: youma    時間: 08-1-5 15:50

But most "local" English teachers in DBSPS can speak very fluent English. My impression is that DBSPS students' speaking English is generally better than SPCC's.


原文章由 himmamme 於 08-1-4 09:50 發表
DBSPD: EMI school,but there are only 4-5 native English teachers,many students cannot be taught by NET

SPCC: CMI school,but more native English teachers,all the students have chance to be taught by N ...

[ 本文章最後由 youma 於 08-1-5 18:56 編輯 ]
作者: kyliema2006    時間: 08-1-5 17:49

原文章由 youma 於 08-1-5 15:50 發表
But most "local" English teachers in DBSPS can speak very fluent English. My impression is DBSPS students' speaking English is generally better than SPCC's.




All local 'English' teachers are supposed to speak fluent English.  For those who cannot, what we could say is -- 'too bad'!
作者: overview    時間: 08-1-5 18:40

I dont agree with your impression At least those boys I know studying in DBPSD are not speaking very good English but no doubt they are good in listening as most of teachers are NET.


原文章由 youma 於 08-1-5 15:50 發表
But most "local" English teachers in DBSPS can speak very fluent English. My impression is DBSPS students' speaking English is generally better than SPCC's.

作者: matthewdad    時間: 08-1-5 19:18

We should consider the mission of the school. DBS (if DBSPD follow DBS mission) is quite different from SPCC. In terms of acedemic achiement, SPCC is much better. On the other hands, DBS is btter in music and sports. I have no doubt about the English standard of DBS graduate but I have met some DBSPD students recently and finds that their English standard is average (as we expect they will be much much better than other local school). In order to be good in language or English, the best choice is German Swiss IS or other international school. I can make some suggestion.

If you live in NT, are you going to let a 6 years old kids spend 3 hours on the road to SPCC everyday ? or if you live in Aberdeen, your kids need to spend 3 hours on the road to DBSPD everyday. It is more desirable to let your kid enjoy the childhood. If your kid is smart, it desn't matter to go to which school (both of them are top school in HK) and I am certain that they will be elite in the future.

[ 本文章最後由 matthewdad 於 08-1-6 16:57 編輯 ]
作者: everyma    時間: 08-1-5 21:38

原文章由 youma 於 08-1-5 15:46 發表
I am surprised to receive one defense only.

1.
據DBSPS 家長所講, DBSPS考得深, 教得淺, 所以幾乎全民皆補, 補費平均$300-800一句鐘. 2. 還有, 比賽前老師[勸諭]學生要走堂練習, 學生那敢不從? I have much reservation as to “幾乎全民皆補" & "比賽前老師[勸諭]學生要走堂練習" since I together with other parents at least up to now have not come across such situations as what you have mentioned.

3. 你是校 ...
My identity is immaterial as I am just a nobody whereas every parent has their own cup of tea, obviously DBSPD is not your cup but what I have told is factual rather than hearsay. I however appreciate the point raised by Matthewdad that it does not matter to which school your kid to go, once you have made up your mind choosing the school for your kid, you have to believe that the choice is the best.
作者: youma    時間: 08-1-6 00:27

原文章由 everyma 於 08-1-5 21:38 發表
... but what I have told is factual rather than hearsay. I however appreciat ...


What I have told is also factual. I have even visited one of the "tutorial schools" specially for DBSPS students. The classes are always full and many DBSPS boys are on the waiting list.

Although I have no chance to visit their sports or orchestra practice,  I know that all students are "encouraged" to quit from the normal classroom lessons for weeks in order to attend practising.

As our statements are contradictory, it means either you are lying or I am lying. I urge the readers to find out the truth from the real parents in the real world.

[ 本文章最後由 youma 於 08-1-6 00:29 編輯 ]
作者: overview    時間: 08-1-6 05:46

youma,

I will stand on your side.  At least from my frineds' comments on DBSPD (their boys are P.2 & 3 now),

課程肯定教得淺考得深 (深到無黎頭), 小二grammar去到小五  點消化呢? 因為小功課, 事實係好多家長去補習班, 我friend揾晒人事都係waiting list (個別補開男小拔), 而每粒鐘要hk$300. 當然都係睇家長既要求



原文章由 youma 於 08-1-6 00:27 發表


What I have told is also factual. I have even visited one of the "tutorial schools" specially for DBSPS students. The classes are always full and many DBSPS boys are on the waiting list.

Although I ...

作者: peter_pan    時間: 08-1-6 09:54

It may be true that DBS is better at sports than SPCC but there is no way that it can be better in music.
SPCC's choirs & orchestras frequently win top awards in music festivals.

原文章由 matthewdad 於 08-1-5 19:18 發表
We should consider the mission of the school. DBS (if DBSPD follow DBS mission) is quite different from SPCC. In terms of acedemic achiement, SPCC is much better. On the other hands, DBS is btter in m ...

作者: matthewdad    時間: 08-1-6 09:56

In DBS , the result of the kids are classfied as follows:
1) top one  - no need to go to tutorial school
2) average one with rich parents - have private tutors or go to tutorial schools
3) below average - survive on their own
4) have sport or musical awards - can study in any class if they like (acedemic is not important). I have seen someone who get no marks in HKCE and still can go to F.6 (although not qualified for any A level exam)
5) Relationship with school (only a few) - similar to no.5

A fair comment, a lot of school put pressure on parent (DBS is not the only one). The teacher only covers the syllabus, as  time is limited in school. If your kid cannot catch up, will advise you to go...Therefore most of the kids can only survive if they go to tutorial school because they have past paper (the teacher are too lazy to create new exam paper). If they have brothers in the school, no need to go to tutorial school.  Therefore there are some special tutorial schools for DBS or SPCC (because they have past paper) and always full up.



原文章由 overview 於 08-1-6 05:46 發表
youma,

I will stand on your side.  At least from my frineds' comments on DBSPD (their boys are P.2 & 3 now),

課程肯定教得淺考得深 (深到無黎頭), 小二grammar去到小五  點消化呢? 因為小功課, 事實係 ...

[ 本文章最後由 matthewdad 於 08-1-6 17:00 編輯 ]
作者: VKwan    時間: 08-1-6 13:31

咁情況,讀黎為乜


原文章由 matthewdad 於 08-1-6 09:56 發表
In DBS , the result of the kids are classfied as follows:
1) top one  - no need to go to tutorial school
2) average one with rich parents - have private tutor or go to tutorial school
3) below average ...

作者: VKwan    時間: 08-1-6 13:32

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作者: 鳳梨    時間: 08-1-6 14:59

好多嘢無十全十美, 學校比到一般學校比唔到既:

1)優越感
2)設備及環境
3)資源 (有好多外藉老師)
4)凝聚力 (old boys)

其他不足既唯有家長自己補足...

不過我會buy spcc多 d

原文章由 VKwan 於 08-1-6 13:31 發表
咁情況,讀黎為乜

作者: sc_mother    時間: 08-1-6 18:24

SPCC is more disciplined and DBS is more flexible in
respect of rules. SPCC is moe concerned on academic
while DBS is more concerned on sports and music.  Both are excellent schools in terms of resources and school
facilities in addition to famous reputation.   

If the boys are talented on sports and music, they will get more satisfaction in DBS because many competitions are
held between school teams.  On the other hand, if the
parents are more concerned on the future career of the
kids such as to be doctors, SPCC is a better choice.
作者: everyma    時間: 08-1-6 19:44

原文章由 youma 於 08-1-6 00:27 發表
As our statements are contradictory, it means either you are lying or I am lying. I urge the readers to find out the truth from the real parents in the real world...


Statements being contradictory is very often not a big deal, it could be a matter of point of view and hence does not imply either telling lie. I whereas wonder you, being a parent of neither SPCC nor DBSPC, are so concerned about the comments.
作者: wisekid2007    時間: 08-1-7 10:45

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