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作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-11 01:38 標題: St. Clare Vs St. Stephen (Stanley)

我哋好好彩, 兩間學校都收咗亞女,
其實兩間學校我哋都鍾意,
所以好難取捨.
請問大家對兩間學校有咩睇法呢?

作者: tyqq12xq 時間: 07-11-11 14:48

It very much depends on where you live, if travelling time it long, which will exploit children's learning and playing time.

作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-11 14:54

原文章由 tyqq12xq 於 07-11-11 14:48 硐表
It very much depends on where you live, if travelling time it long, which will exploit children's learning and playing time.

我哋住西區,
去St. Clare要搭一程車, 不過唔耐, 仲近過而家返幼稚園,
去St. Stephen就遠, 而且校車唔到我嗰到, 老公諗住朝朝drive her to school.
其實兩間學校都係英文小學, 程度應該差唔多,
不過校舍當然差好遠, 但返學路程都差好遠.

作者: tyqq12xq 時間: 07-11-11 15:27

原文章由 Candy925 於 07-11-11 14:54 硐表

我哋住西區,
去St. Clare要搭一程車, 不過唔耐, 仲近過而家返幼稚園,
去St. Stephen就遠, 而且校車唔到我嗰到, 老公諗住朝朝drive her to school.
其實兩間學校都係英文小學, 程度應該差唔多,
不過校舍當然差好遠, ...

I got the same decision problem like you, my son was accepted by two good school, which St Stephen is one of it. It is a long term commitment. Though your husband is willing to drive the kid to St Stephen daily, but how you husband has some other duty commitment, say oversea trip. 6 years long, think about it.

作者: decision 時間: 07-11-11 21:28

原文章由 Candy925 於 07-11-11 01:38 硐表
我哋好好彩, 兩間學校都收咗亞女,
其實兩間學校我哋都鍾意,
所以好難取捨.
請問大家對兩間學校有咩睇法呢?

個人認為兩間一樣喜歡，應捨遠取近。
每天省下起碼1小時交通好用得多。
別小看那一小時，對小學生的精神、功課很有幫助。

作者: KTRainbow 時間: 07-11-11 23:08

When did you receive St. Stephen's reply?

作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-12 12:32

原文章由 KTRainbow 於 07-11-11 23:08 硐表
When did you receive St. Stephen's reply?

On Halloween day!

作者: Tatama123 時間: 07-11-12 13:49 標題: 我同你地一樣考到St Stephen !

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作者: Thomasthetrain 時間: 07-11-12 14:02

原文章由 Tatama123 於 07-11-12 13:49 硐表
Candy925 & tyqq12X9,
我同你地一樣考到兩間, St Stephen 是其中一間, 車程around 45 mins, 但日日要來回加上彎路多, 我驚仔仔會頭暈, 返到嚟會好倦做唔到功課, 加上Stanley近海灘, 冬天會好冷, 六年級又一定要寄宿, ...

Dear Tatama,

For my personal opinion, u better not to choose St. Stephen if you think there are a lot of disadvantage of this school.

作者: rohoy2k 時間: 07-11-12 14:35

Echoed.

It is the parent's choice to drop it out now if all these worries seemed to be so reasonable to your kid's situation. I think hundreds of parents will thanks you by making this decision early.

However, if your kid is still in the waiting list so making such an influence here may not be so nice. Hope I am wrong here.

原文章由 Thomasthetrain 於 07-11-12 14:02 硐表

Dear Tatama,

For my personal opinion, u better not to choose St. Stephen if you think there are a lot of disadvantage of this school.

作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-12 16:06

Maybe it's better for me to give more details about what are my concerns –

1. Distance
We live in the Western district. Of course go to St. Clare is more convenience. But go to St Stephen is not that far as compare to many other families who live on the Kowloon side. However, unfortunately, there's no school bus to and from our district. Actually both my husband and I can drive her to Stanley if we finally choose St. Stephen. But you can forecast, we will have to wake up very early and have a long journey.

2. Standard
To our knowledge, both schools are English based and supplemented by Mandarin. So this factor seems does not matter. And that's why we have to give it a thought. If they have much difference, we can easily choose between them.

3. Environment
Needless to say, St. Stephen is much better. That's why their school campus is far away from the town.

4. Fees
St. Stephen costs nearly double St. Clare. But this would not be the main factor as we won't apply for it if we can't afford. Also, we know that about half of the teachers are foreigners and with such campus and facilities, you will know what the parents are paying for.

Besides the above, personally St. Clare is my dream school when I was a student. And I found that the English standard and the personality of my ex-classmates from St. Clare and colleagues graduated from St. Clare are really good. But they all say that the school is rather traditional.

As for St. Stephen, heard that their reputation is quite good. My friend's son studying there is very happy. However, she commented that the English standard is very high. (My friend herself and her husband both have a good background). Her son supposed to be in P.3 this year. But because of his English standard, they talked with the school and preferred to let him repeat a year in order to build up a stronger base.

Having so many thoughts on mind, that's why I would like to know other parents' comment to this two schools.

The last point I would like to make is my girl is an outgoing and talkative girl. She likes to response to questions and raise to answer questions. So I'm wondering would St. Clare be too traditional for her.

作者: Tatama123 時間: 07-11-12 17:42 標題: 你朋友仔仔要repeat P3? 邊方面跟唔上?

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作者: Tatama123 時間: 07-11-12 17:50 標題: 你朋友仔仔要repeat P3? 邊方面跟唔上?

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作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-12 18:12

Dear Candy925,

My son also got admitted. I have checked with the school about school bus service. They say (apart from the listed routes on the school website) there is a school bus serving Kennedy Town/西環--> 學士台--> Belcher's ------> go directly to SSCPS (via Repulse Bay). The travelling time may be long, though. You may call Mr Ho (Route E) directly to have a better idea (his mobile no. can be found in the small booklet).

If your girl is outgoing and talkative, I think St Stephen is a better choice. I also prefer a more all-rounded school for my boy.

Hope you will make the most suitable choice for your girl.

qqzzma

原文章由 Candy925 於 07-11-12 16:06 硐表
Maybe it's better for me to give more details about what are my concerns –

1. Distance
We live in the Western district. Of course go to St. Clare is more convenience. But go to St Stephen is not tha ...

作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-13 21:17

qqzzma

Thank you for your info esp. on school bus which is very useful to me.
However, I'm still considering one point which is the teaching of Chinese. We've called and asked the school today that they teach Chinese in 100% Mandarin and won't supplemented with Cantonese. They will also teach Mandarin phonics.

But my concern is will the kid pick up a Chinese book but can only read in Manadrin? That means she don't know how to pronounce the words in Cantonese unless we teach her at home. It seems to me that she will have a hard time to learn one word in two pronunciation. As she is learning Chinese words now in K.3, I found they have to take some time to remember the word and how to pronounce. If she has to remember one more prounounciation (Cantonese) but with little practise at school. Seems strange. What do you think?

作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-14 00:32

Candy925,

I read your similar Q in another thread. For my son, he is studying in a all PTH/Eng kindergarten since K1. We speak Cantonese+Eng at home. I do not notice any problem with him reading chinese books. Just sometimes/very occasionally he makes a PTH pronounciation when he speaks cantonese - really funny situations). He can read his school books in both PTH and Cantonese. We also do lots of other readings (leisure) at home in Cantonese. (My PTH is not proficient and i don't want him to follow my "accent"!)

Learning a language depends much on the environment. It is v common that kids in European countries learn several language at the same time. I believe kids can learn amazingly faster than we can imagine if we can provide the right environment. Much better than just giving 2-hr PTH private lessons a week. Right?

Maybe other parents can share their experience too.

qqzzma

原文章由 Candy925 於 07-11-13 21:17 硐表
qqzzma

Thank you for your info esp. on school bus which is very useful to me.
However, I'm still considering one point which is the teaching of Chinese. We've called and asked the school today that ...

作者: rohoy2k 時間: 07-11-14 17:00

The way we learnt Chinese in Cantonese dialect already posted a very bad influence in Hong Kong for generations. See what we commonly write in Chinese, either very bad Chinese we found in Newspapers (some even cannot write as clear as newspaper), or very ancient one such as 應用文 used in 50's or 60's like those in Government notices.

Start doing Mandarin education from this generation not only because we have to "work" or "use" in China, but we have to let our next generation use better Chinese than we do, if resources allowed.

Cantonese is a dialect and I am sure the kids can speak it, like Shanghaiese speaks Shanghaiese, Fukins speaks Fukins. But it is problem if they grown up write Cantonese or Think Chinese in a Cantonese way.

作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-14 23:03

rohoy2k / qqzzma

Thanks for your sharing!
I will think about that seriously!

So, are you two going to pick this school?

作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-15 00:33

I have registered already.

原文章由 Candy925 於 07-11-14 23:03 硐表
rohoy2k / qqzzma

Thanks for your sharing!
I will think about that seriously!

So, are you two going to pick this school?

作者: rohoy2k 時間: 07-11-16 09:52

I've done so...last year

and proved it works so far.

原文章由 qqzzma 於 07-11-15 00:33 硐表
I have registered already.

作者: abc媽咪 時間: 07-11-19 17:51

My son's studied at St Stephen's long ago and I've friend who studied St Clare.
If your girl is an outgoing girl, St Stephen's is a good choice. Other than academic, they stressed on activities like choir, speech and sports. Kids therefore enjoyed their balance school life much.

原文章由 Candy925 於 07-11-12 16:06 硐表
Maybe it's better for me to give more details about what are my concerns –

1. Distance
We live in the Western district. Of course go to St. Clare is more convenience. But go to St Stephen is not tha ...

作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-19 23:35

原文章由 abc媽咪 於 07-11-19 17:51 硐表
My son's studied at St Stephen's long ago and I've friend who studied St Clare.
If your girl is an outgoing girl, St Stephen's is a good choice. Other than academic, they stressed on activities like ...

abc媽咪
Thanks for your information.

In fact I've registered at St. Clare today and I'm going to register St. Stephen also on next Monday.
I would like to take some more time to do some research before makeing the final decision. I don't want to regret afterwards.
Basically, my husband and I go for St. Stephen.

作者: BoBoCute 時間: 07-11-23 22:26 標題: 回覆 #22 Candy925 的文章

If money and time is not a concern, St. Stephen is better, esp. Eng and Mandarin environment.
But do you mind having your girl stay in dorm in P.6.
P.6 is quite an important year to maintain close touch with them before their rebellious age set in.
For sons, I would choose St. Stephen's without doubt.

作者: Tatama123 時間: 07-11-23 23:29

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作者: BoBoCute 時間: 07-11-23 23:43 標題: 回覆 #24 Tatama123 的文章

St. Stephen's.

作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-24 00:02

Tatama123,

I gather from different BK threads that you are struggling among St Stephen's, St Paul Boys, St Jo, Ramondi, etc.  My gut feeling is that you always prefer St Jo, and you say that you son prefer St Jo.  You also say that you are not very confident about the St Stephen's College (secondary)'s standard, and you are concerned about the school fee, its distance and location.  So ...... why the struggle and all the questions???

The point is - what do you want for your kid?  A traditional school with long history and fame which you are very comfortable with or proud of if you son is one of it?

Or, an all-rounded education with good balance between academic performance and other development (physical/music/arts/personal development/language ......?

Both my husband and I prefer the latter and we do not have any struggle at all.

No matter what you choose, hope it is best for your kid.  Hope you can make your decision very soon.

原文章由 Tatama123 於 07-11-23 23:29 硐表

Hi BoboCute & abc媽咪,
可否畀d 意見如St Joseph 收同St Stephen compare 揀邊間好? If money and time is not a concern

作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-24 00:09

One more point -

St Stephen's - whole day, co-ed, eng/PTH
St Jo - half day, boys, eng (??)

They are completely different. Both are good and it really depends on what you want.

原文章由 qqzzma 於 07-11-24 00:02 硐表
Tatama123,

I gather from different BK threads that you are struggling among St Stephen's, St Paul Boys, St Jo, Ramondi, etc. My gut feeling is that you always prefer St Jo, and you say that you son ...

作者: desma 時間: 07-11-24 01:35

I am an old grads from St.Stephen's College.  In my
memories,  this is a school that very encourage students to 'speak out'.  Students are welcome to ask and teachers are pleased to answer.  There is no 'silly ' question in this school. There are a lot of 'things' to
learn apart from books.  Music, track and feild sports,
swimming, cross-country, all kinds of ball games,  listen to
concerts..........if you want your child to have an all-rounded personality, this is the school.  Don't worry about the boarding life in P6,  it might be his/her the most memorable year in her preperatory years!

No doubt that $$$$$ is really an object in this school!  But its all worth it!

One thing I'd like to commend on, which is ,  this is a school that far away from everything. So, it means that there will be less 'temptation'/influences from other school kids! Pros or cons,  up in your mind!  Good luck!

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作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-24 10:36

Agree !

These are all the reasons that support my choice.

原文章由 desma 於 07-11-24 01:35 硐表
I am an old grads from St.Stephen's College. In my
memories, this is a school that very encourage students to 'speak out'. Students are welcome to ask and teachers are pleased to answer. There is ...

作者: desma 時間: 07-11-24 11:40

Be ready to see your kid's changes: more confidence, more independence and more eye-wide-open!

原文章由 qqzzma 於 07-11-24 10:36 硐表
Agree !

These are all the reasons that support my choice.

作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-24 12:57

Thank you very much, desma.

原文章由 desma 於 07-11-24 11:40 硐表
Be ready to see your kid's changes: more confidence, more independence and more eye-wide-open!

作者: FANDA 時間: 07-11-24 14:15

原文章由 desma 於 07-11-24 11:40 硐表
Be ready to see your kid's changes: more confidence, more independence and more eye-wide-open!

I was in same suitation last year and finally I chose St. Stephen for my son. Today, I can tell you I really make a right choice for him, as desma mentioned, this school provide all rounded education, they're strong in language and most important is my son enjoy the school life so much.

Be understand your kid and help him/her to choose a right school as they still have a long long way to run.

:)

作者: Junior-Fan 時間: 07-11-24 15:02

Yes, his/her silly questions/concerns/bias are filling up everywhere

. But almost no feed back from others now. Good luck anyway, St Joseph's parent-----"to-be"!

原文章由 qqzzma 於 07-11-24 00:02 硐表
Tatama123,

I gather from different BK threads that you are struggling among St Stephen's, St Paul Boys, St Jo, Ramondi, etc. My gut feeling is that you always prefer St Jo, and you say that you son ...

作者: Candy925 時間: 07-11-24 18:16

原文章由 BoBoCute 於 07-11-23 22:26 硐表
If money and time is not a concern, St. Stephen is better, esp. Eng and Mandarin environment.
But do you mind having your girl stay in dorm in P.6.
P.6 is quite an important year to maintain close tou ...

BoBoCute
Thanks for your message.
To be honest, I'm ok with my girl stay in dorm in P.6. In fact, before we hand in the application form, we are prepared for this. Otherwise, we won't consider this school at all.
Besides, we have relative (also a girl) who is now in P.5, I can see girl at that stage is quite independent, with their own mind (of course still under parents' supervision). Thus, I don't think my girl will have problem with staying in the dorm in P.6. Also, we have only one child, I think this is a kind of training for her to be more independent and get along with others. This will benefit her in the long run.
If we have more kids, I definitely will send her to St. Clare without doubt. As I always wish a girl to be in St. Clare style - polite, lady, good in English.
Since both schools are good and are my favourite, that's why I've headache in choosing between them.

作者: Tatama123 時間: 07-11-24 20:45

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作者: desma 時間: 07-11-25 00:00

Tatama123

I really understand your concern and your concern is right!  St.Stephen's is not an academic result oriented school. It is an 'all-rounded personality' oriented school!  So, back to qqzzma's topic---what do you and your kid demand from school?

Back in my old days,  majority (<70%) of the students would study aboard.  It just because it is a 'tradition/trend'.  And they mostly ,easily got accepted from top universities/colleges because of the personalities and the 'varieties' of their profolios.

But I am glad that you have a clear mind from what you are looking for your kid!  Good luck!

原文章由 Tatama123 於 07-11-24 20:45 硐表

qqzzma, desma,
我只係唔太了解St Stephen 中學會考成績是否能升上本地大學, 因過往聽聞學生中學會出外讀書多, 而未聽聞St.Stephen 有10A, 9 A 生, 所以很擔心中學畢業若留港升讀香港各大院校機會有多大,
而St Jose ...

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作者: Tatama123 時間: 07-11-25 00:27

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作者: desma 時間: 07-11-25 02:07

Tatama123

I totally understand your worries.  But just relax!  your son is not even in P1 yet!  There are at least 12 more years to go before he gets in the university.  But I will try my best to give comments on your questions.

1.  Their target were very clear for local universities/colleges.  Most of them got accepted to the programme of what they applied.  Some of them went to the work force, and some worked for their families' business.

2. This is a tricky one!  I personally think whether the kid being accepted or not is depends on the kid's own ability rather than which school he is studying in! Right!  For DSS next year, well ,I have no idea and cannot foresee such a "BIG" change! But I can tell you that the principal is a very well-educated, full of patience and whole hearted lady!  Hope it helps!

3.  It was not 'relax' at all! But it was 'well-balanced"!

4.  I have classmates start studying overseas from F1!  It depends on $ and the child's personality!

5.  I know nothing about St.Joesph, so I am not appropriate in making any comment on such comparison.  Sorry!

原文章由 Tatama123 於 07-11-25 00:27 硐表

desma,
其他冇去留學同學環境如何? 入本地University 有冇困難, 明年中學轉直資會唔會好d? 學習過程是否很寬鬆? 中學適宜往外升學?
如打算在港升大學是否應讀St Joseph 吹谷型? ...

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作者: desma 時間: 07-11-25 02:23

Tatama123
I think you have a decision in your mind already! Just be firm and confident on it! Nobody knows your son better than you are! No matter which school you choose, all we need to do is give them lots of love and support!

作者: qqzzma 時間: 07-11-25 11:49

EDB allocation result should be out by now. Make up your mind and go for it.

Also, it would be kind if the place(s) can be released to other kids early to ease their/parents mind'.

原文章由 desma 於 07-11-25 02:23 硐表
Tatama123
I think you have a decision in your mind already! Just be firm and confident on it! Nobody knows your son better than you are! No matter which school you choose, all we need to do is giv ...

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