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標題: 大平反!(再改標題)小朋友一年睇千本書, 你認為可能嗎? [打印本頁]

作者: mcheung1 時間: 07-10-23 18:55 標題: 大平反!(再改標題)小朋友一年睇千本書, 你認為可能嗎?

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作者: christf 時間: 07-10-23 19:05

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作者: Cayenne 時間: 07-10-23 22:27

原文章由 christf 於 07-10-23 19:05 硐表
So far I haven't read any bad comments on 耀中的 kinder in BK. Those comments were mainly for 耀中的 secondary school.

而且, 在 BK 這個專談 IS 的角落, 談起 YC, 都是和其他國際學校來比較的, 不是將她和傳統學校來比的啊 !

作者: joyfung 時間: 07-10-24 12:13

My son went to Yiu Chung Kinder (International Stream). I agree that the teachers there are very nice and my son enjoy his school life there. But I have no comments about the secondary school since my son and many of his kinder friends did not go to Yiu Chung Primary. Many of them go to ESF schools instead. But, once my son told me that he met some Yiu Chung students (about his age, 10 to 12) and they can't communicate with him in English.

原文章由 mcheung1 於 07-10-23 18:55 硐表
大平反!!!

hi, 各位, 你好, 我其實上bk都一段日子, 我今天送仔仔返學時聽到一位家長講她的囡囡3歲時是讀耀中的, 4歲後就去了CCKG, 她的媽媽以為執到寶, 因CCKG很有名也很難考, 但讀了一個月她的女兒毎天也咸, 也毎 ...

作者: YC-MOM 時間: 07-10-24 13:21

一向的討論，都主要係講耀中中學，和校內行政及收生問題。

而且，都冇乜好平唔平反，我唔滿意，你滿意，我覺得冇砥觸。

同朋友食麻辣火鍋，佢可能嫌唔夠辣，但我就覺得辣到飛起；唔通我又要同個麻辣火鍋平反？

我的確對耀中很多不滿，你可以話我求高啦。
但如果以每月學費過萬，中學更要比廿萬 debenture ，當然要有合理要求啦。
收就收我 mercedes 的價位，比貨我就比 corolla，真係 ok ？
而且而家唔只係金錢上的損失，重係孩子學業上的問題，唔出聲鬧，就真係假。

作者: mcheung1 時間: 07-10-24 19:21

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作者: YC-MOM 時間: 07-10-24 22:30

原文章由 mcheung1 於 07-10-24 19:21 硐表
hi, 你好, 我對你的回覆感到失望, 因你明明在說（都冇乜好平唔平反，我唔滿意，你滿意，我覺得冇砥觸。）我都同意，但在後面就好似說到自己要求高，別人就要求低，可能我用錯標題，今你有少許敵意，加上我覺得你做了媽媽就不要太大火氣，凡事心平氣和，對你及小朋友都好ｄ，我都係表達我自己的意見，沒有要所有人都認同，同埋，我覺得唔好用”鬧”這個字眼，相信你的小朋友也不希望你用這字眼，我們只是在表達自己的想法，加上我自己在為小朋友找東西時，無論是１０元或幾多，只要負擔得起（不是勉強）又是好東西時，我都會給我的小朋友，因我們都是愛我們的孩子的，我只是想表達我的囝囝在耀中幼稚園兩年都很好很開心，再說一次可能我真的用錯標題，希望你不要太介意及太火爆會對你好ｄ！！！！

好有趣的回應。

我火爆？何以見得？
相反，你的標題就真係顯得你好激動，
而兩個 message 都 repeat 咁多感嘆號，似乎火爆的亦係你。

大家討論時，請用實際情形以事論事。
遇到有人跟你對耀中有相反的感受，就指人火爆，甚至指人對你有敵意，只令我覺得你好小家。如果係要賴皮，我都可以用類似的 terms 話你，不過我唔認為對討論有幫助。要討論，不如都係講下實際的情形啦。

唔知你有冇睇過我以往的 messages 呢？
或者有冇睇過其他耀中中小學部家長的 messages 呢？
其實我地個個都有講我地唔滿意的原因，你有冇睇晒？
你比我覺得你係根本唔知我地批評 d 乜。

我都講過，另外都有網友講過，往 bk 批評耀中的，都係講緊中小學的情形，同你孩子讀的幼稚園無關。點解你重係要喋喋不休，去為學校護航？點解你要咁激動，開新 topic，出黎平反？你愛學校冇錯，但係例今次似乎係搞錯重點，可以話係平反錯了對象。

我孩子都讀過耀中幼稚園，其實都好多耀中中小學學生，都係由幼稚園一路讀上去。我冇話我孩子讀幼稚園唔開心，但亦冇話幼稚園唔好；甚至，我孩子在小學部基本上都好開心，但係孩子開心唔係就等於學校好，這點似乎大家價值觀唔同。

我係唔係要求高，不如由你評評。我要求的，係一間國際學校最基本要做到的。如果有睇過我以往 messages 的，你就知我的要求係乜，我唔再重複再講。舉一個，耀中好多學生係可以用英文上堂，用英文學習，但在社交層面上，遇到要講全英語的時候，就好大問題，甚至口啞啞，亦即係 joyfung 講的 "my son told me that he met some Yiu Chung students (about his age, 10 to 12) and they can't communicate with him in English"。這個情形，係我覺得唔滿意的其中一個原因。你話啦，係唔係我要求過高？

我本來唔想討論 "負擔得起" 這問題，因為這課題好敏感，好容易得罪人。不過你既然提到，我亦唔怕講講我的感受。讀得耀中中小學的，經濟能力點都唔會差。耀中家長，其實都比較樸實，即使人地唔係穿金帶銀，都唔代表人地冇錢。其實好多家長，包括我，都絕對可以負擔孩子 20 萬 debenture，及萬多元學費；我就唔相信有家長會因為負膽唔起而轉校。當然，有些家長會謙遜 d，問起佢地點解要小朋友轉校，佢地都會話唔想讀中學時比 20 萬 debenture，但係如果學校真係好，點會 20 萬都唔想去比？真係要張羅 20 萬，對於一向已交開過萬學費的家長，應該唔係大問題。我相信認為學校唔好的，唔代表人地係有經濟困難；相反，亦唔係話負擔得起，我就要比，就唔會批評。這點似乎你我的價值觀亦不一樣。

其實，你到底有冇睇晒我地以往對耀中有批評的 message？

我估冇人話過要說服全部人，要一齊批評耀中。起碼，我知我地這些批評耀中的，只是想講講感受，令人知到更多耀中的實際情形，以免選擇錯誤。另一方面，以往的討論，亦有很多支持耀中的，我覺得都可以 co-exist 在 BK，因為大家睇多幾種意件做參考都好。我亦多過一次，講話戥那些滿意耀中的家長高興。就如個各下，能感到開心，實在係件好事，我衷心恭喜你。

但今次我一定要回應你，因為你已將討論重點偏離了：
(1) 你講的係幼稚園，我講的係中小學；
(2) 你話我火爆，和對你有敵意，並冇根據，亦對討論冇幫助。

歡迎各下回應，作友善的討論，但請你先再細讀以往的 topics 再說。

作者: mcheung1 時間: 07-10-25 09:58

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作者: Kate.Tong 時間: 07-10-31 22:56 標題: YC Kinder

大家好,

本人是YC ITLP parent. Though my son is so young, but I want to share my experinec here as well. My son join there for 8 months and really enjoy the school life. I was worry about too much free play time there, but I find it is good.
I like the way they let the child to free choice what they are interested, focus on it, no rushing or pushing. In fact, I do joined some famous playgroup in Kowloon Tong, the activities there were very 'well' arranged (tight schedule) each one doing the same thing at same time in rushing mode, and to certain degree, the level was not fit the childs' ability, but do impressive to parent, but out of child's ability. But in YC, they do simple things, but child are really given sufficient time to explore how to do it. My child likes arts now, he can repeat to do the painting for few times within free play session. The songs, stories are simple enough to let the child to learn, pick up and repeat at home. I really appreciate Teachers there can tell your child's doing in school. Moreover, if I tell my concerns on my child to teacher, they will help to pay special attention. So, even I can't comment the Kindergarten, I should say that playgroup under 2, YC is a good place. At term end, they will give you a profolio of your child with your child's photos at school activities, and a A4 page comments, in which I found they have good observation on what you child can do in various aspects.

I joined the introduction session and school tour tonight in Somerset campus, for local stream, to my surprise, it was impressive. The way they inspire the child....is good. The homework, art work, activites displayed are very encouraging. I start to change my mind on YC kinder, as some friend comments YC was for fun only....but seems not really.

I look forward to learn more from you about the kinder.

Thanks.

作者: annie40 時間: 07-11-1 12:30 標題: overscheduled children

Hi Kate,

It is very nice that your child is learning with fun at kinder.  You and your son seem like the school very much.  I am very impressive even I have read and heard a lot of  negative comments about YC that shiould be more related to primary and seconddary schools. But for sure YC kindergarten is a wonderland because it provides fun for children.  In fact, the best learning and achievement come from fun.  The children will definitely treasure their happy learning in school.

My girl is aged 9, studying at a nice international primary in HK side.  When she's small, luckily I chose her the very good relaxed kinders such as Caritas Ling Yuet Sin and Small World.  In which she built up her character in loving to learn and appreciation for everything.  Some parents may question this kind of relaxed kinders would drive their tiny teeny kids (3-4 yrs old) left behind in acad####y in comparision with other kinders.  I would say both 'YES' and 'NO' at the same time. The reason for 'YES' is  your brilliant children won't be trained to remember thousand of vocabulary when they are 3-4 years old.  The reason for 'NO' is my personal experience that  my girl learnt phoics until she is in  year one at school.  But now she's good at both English literarcy and numeracy.  She's genuine interest in learning, and in general read over thousand of books per year.  (each 200 - 500 pages).  What I know is her classmates are also learning with fun as her.

Sometimes our babies just start to learn academic stuff at very early stage.  But missing a lot of fun to explore the world.  It is sad to see things happened like this.  They don't need to do it and be over-scheduled.  They would be fine even in a relaxed way.

I hope the above would give encouragement for those parents who don't want to make a over-schedule child.

作者: violinviolin 時間: 07-11-4 23:30

"....read over thousand of books per year. (each 200 - 500 pages)." Let's say three books per day, and 600 pages minimum. At one minute per page, that is 600 minutes, or 10 hours.

作者: JennyL 時間: 07-11-5 16:22

I had exactly the same query.
3 books per day?
Even if a child can finish that (which I doubt), what exactly can he/she benefit from such reading habit (which is totally impossible)?

作者: annie40 時間: 07-11-5 17:16

Regret to raise queries about reading book q'ty and
level. I just want to encourage parents to give more relaxed parenting method for children. The answer would be well understood by those parents who have children 100% hooked by any kind of books. It's not good thng for us sometimes. Anyway, it's lovely that there are large number of international school children who love reading .

Annie

作者: JennyL 時間: 07-11-5 20:28

She's genuine interest in learning, and in general read over thousand of books per year. (each 200 - 500 pages).

The answer would be well understood by those parents who have children 100% hooked by any kind of books.

My children love reading too.

But 3 books of 200 - 500 pages each per day?

C'mon!

作者: nintendo 時間: 07-11-5 21:26

一年睇過千本書，每本書 200 - 500 頁；即係每日睇 3 本，每本 200 - 500 頁的書。

這類 post，真係回應都廢事。

作者: mcheung1 時間: 07-11-5 23:03

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作者: nintendo 時間: 07-11-6 15:29

原文章由 mcheung1 於 07-11-5 23:03 硐表
我覺得你又唔可以咁講, 加上你又回應咗, 因為我的姪仔, 他是很喜歡睇書, 真的是毎年過千本, 不過他是讀小學的, 你哋真的覺得很出奇咩, 另外有個姪女(是在英國的)也很喜歡看書, 也是毎年過千本的, 我說的是我的兩個姪女姪仔, 但我相信他們是這樣, 也會有很多小朋友是這樣的, 不要否定晒沒有可能!!

你地好熟？咁幫佢講野？

唔駛下下話自己邊個邊個都睇好多書云云，
bk 大把國際學校家長，亦大把人有親友在外國讀書。

日日睇 3 本唔奇，真係要睇， 30 本都睇到，
不過每本 200 - 500 頁的書，你真係覺得一日可以睇 3 本？

老作都唔好作得咁大。

作者: JennyL 時間: 07-11-6 15:50

3 books of 200-500 pages each everyday.

I am really lost. Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

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作者: motk 時間: 07-11-6 16:31

My child was there and I observed 2 weeks there in the 2 year old class. I believe they are using the child-centered approach which is very different from what my son's learning in another famous structured 2 year-old pre-school program where I found it having bad impacts on my son's development. My little girl is more confident and free to express herself than my son and she enjoys going to school very much.

作者: YC-MOM 時間: 07-11-6 17:33

mcheung1，
如果真係單單講 "內容"，我都覺得唔會有人會每日讀3本200-500 pages 的書。就算讀得點快都冇可能讀得晒。
舉幾個小學生常讀的書做例子。The Secret Garden - 255 pages，Matilda - 230 pages，Harry Potter and the Philosoher's Stone - 223 pages。
一日睇晒3本，你覺得真係得？
而且，這幾本書都只係每本200+ pages；如果話500 pages 的書，就等於兩本 200+ pages 的書。要一日睇3本，真係好唔 make sense 喎。
你先唔駛咁激動。
會唔會係 annie40 之前打錯字？

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作者: TINGMUM 時間: 07-11-6 19:01

其實有類小朋友是超級書迷. 我囡囡7歲幾, 同佢去書展, 當日在會場時己睇了數十本書 (每本百幾二百頁). 好多兒童英文書d字好淺白,行數唔算多, 佢地睇開書的小朋友, 是"臘"得好快, 大致知個內容便算, 唔一定逐隻字睇得清清楚楚.

成9歲女, 一年睇一千本真係唔奇.

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作者: Cara2006 時間: 07-11-6 20:33

原文章由 TINGMUM 於 07-11-6 19:01 硐表
其實有類小朋友是超級書迷. 我囡囡7歲幾, 同佢去書展, 當日在會場時己睇了數十本書 (每本百幾二百頁). 好多兒童英文書d字好淺白,行數唔算多, 佢地睇開書的小朋友, 是"臘"得好快, 大致知個內容便算, 唔一定逐隻字睇 ...

揭幾下，大致上知個故仔講乜，就當自己睇完本書，我覺得好自欺欺人。咁如果係金鏞小說，我都可以一個鐘就睇晒全套射鵰英雄傳。

不過，正如先前有家長講，港式教育就係咁。部份家長對這類吹噓樂此不疲，但又唔知人地睇在眼裡，笑在心裡。尤其講到英文閱讀，家長個個都話仔女睇 D 乜書物書，孩子亦好多只裝著一本英文書在手，有幾多字識讀，有幾多睇得明，家長亦懶理，總之一本英文書在手，家長就沾沾自喜，孩子亦可以光宗耀祖。

最好笑係早排 HP 出大結局，香港 D 家長個個學人地外國 D 鬼仔鬼妹去排隊買英文版比仔女，電視新聞訪問一個小朋友，連 voldamort 都唔識讀，要阿媽提水，先識讀個中文譯名 "彿地魔" 出黎。個小朋友又竟然就話自己係 HP 迷，本本都有睇喎，但睇佢年紀，我估中文版都未必識睇，難得佢媽媽亦厚顏地，大聲話個仔話想即刻返屋企開始睇本書。

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作者: Annie123 時間: 07-11-6 21:04

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作者: Cara2006 時間: 07-11-6 21:31

原文章由 mcheung1 於 07-11-6 20:56 硐表
喂又係你呀, 你咁出名, 我真係唔知點回應.

你回應乜野？乜你係 annie40 代言人？
你點知佢冇打錯字？
或者佢想話係每本200-500字呢？

每年睇 1000 本書一 d 都唔多，睇 2000 本都得，
但如果講話每本都200-500頁，就一定唔可能。

不過你個人都好得意，一向都係睇 post 睇 d 唔睇 d。
人地批評耀中中學，你就當人地話埋幼稚園，要出黎話咩平反。

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作者: christf 時間: 07-11-7 09:42

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作者: Cara2006 時間: 07-11-7 14:19

christf,
It appears to me that not many people have a stricter definition of "reading".
Re-reading Annie40's messages, and then the messages from a couple of other parents who supported her totally (without doubt), I noticed that it is a common habit for parents (and probably students and teachers too) to consider browsing books the same as reading.
I guess the local education system is really competitive. Parents (students and teachers too) are very concerned with statistics. So they are willing to re-define "reading" to suit their own needs or habit.
This is really pathetic, and I do not intend to discuss further with those people. They are desperate. And desperate souls are usually un-reasonable and illogical.

作者: TINGMUM 時間: 07-11-7 14:56

其實有很多套書都是100到200頁之間的. 例如: rainbow magic, magic tree house 等．小朋友真係可以很快睇完（當然不是讀出聲果種）果日書展，我買了好多書，佢地兩姐弟坐在ＣＯＲＮＥＲ等，晚上８點幾走，囡囡己睇完３０幾本．　唔可以話佢係genius，這只同佢本身在澳洲成長，喜愛睇書有關．

認同ＡＮＮＩＥ所說，　我沒有要求，由佢自己睇．當然來香港後，囡囡多了功課，唔可能一年一千本．但我深信香港的國際學校的小朋友少功課，一年一千本唔出奇．我身邊朋友的小朋友都有例子．

可能你的小朋友仲細，沒有遇過．本地小朋友咁多功課，當然少了閱書時間．

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作者: JennyL 時間: 07-11-7 18:45

原文章由 TINGMUM 於 07-11-7 14:56 硐表
其實有很多套書都是100到200頁之間的. 例如: rainbow magic, magic tree house 等．小朋友真係可以很快睇完（當然不是讀出聲果種）果日書展，我買了好多書，佢地兩姐弟坐在ＣＯＲＮＥＲ等，晚上８點幾走，囡囡己睇完３０幾本．　唔可以話佢係genius，這 ...

tingmum,

Have you really read Annie40's message?
I think we are talking about different things.
Parents that doubt what she said was focusing on her claiming that the books are 200-500 pages.

Your examples of the Rainbow Magic and Magic Tree House books would not be appropriate. Those books are very thin and easy. They are not even over 100 pages and particularly in the Magic Tree House series, they have very large fonts and lots of pictures. Some pages are even purely pictures with no words. Of course children would have no problem finishing 3 or more of them each day.

Annie40 was not talking about these thin easy children books. She said that her child reads 3 books each 200-500 pages per day.

Books that are 200-500 pages do not have as much pictures as books like magic tree house. The number of words in one 500-page book would not be the same as the number of words of ten 50-page books added together. Plus, the "difficulty level" of a 500-word book would also not be the same as a 50-page book.

I do not doubt your words. But I just would not believe what Annie40 said.

作者: hart 時間: 07-11-8 12:46

一年睇過千本書，唔係話冇可能嘅，今日報紙講個十歲才女鄒奇奇（被喻為世上最聰明的孩子），一分鐘睇900字，每日睇三本小說，不過有幾多小朋友真係咁gifted呢？

或者小朋友書不離手，小息、食飯、搭車都在看書，又好夜瞓，平日睇兩本（一分鐘一版，共需400min，即6.6hrs），星期六、日、假期不停睇，可以一日睇、四、五本（13 – 16 hrs），有機會睇過千本架，不過都係嗰句，個小朋友要好gifted，睇得好快，就好似有小朋友每日練六、七個鐘琴，我都好難想像，我只係一個普通人。

相信Annie40只是想用＂過千本＂來形容女兒喜愛閱讀，並非有意誇大，只是傾吓偈，唔好咁認真、免傷和氣。

TINGMUM,
雖然話妳個女睇得快，不過睇100頁x30本 = 3000頁，就算一分鐘睇3頁，都要1000分鐘，即係16個鐘先睇完30本書啊！並非想challenge妳，但真係唔合理噃！除非妳個女10秒睇一頁啦！都要8個鐘，更何況你話本本100-200頁，真係幾秒一版。

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作者: TINGMUM 時間: 07-11-9 07:26

HART,

我之前都講過"睇開書的小朋友, 是"臘"得好快, 大致知個內容便算, 唔一定逐隻字睇得清清楚楚".呢個世界上有人可以吞劍, 不一定是人人可以做到. 但不否認確有一些人可以做到. 做到的人亦不一定是GIFTED. 以後有機會接觸到呢類小朋友, 你會明白的.

不想再討論了. 大家不認為亦不要緊.

作者: hart 時間: 07-11-9 09:17

TINGMUM,

恕我見識少，真係冇見過！身邊也不乏喜歡看書的小朋友，不過從來冇計過他們看書的速度，但如果話幾秒揭一頁，真係快過某D影印機。

我都唔係鍾意同人爭執，恭喜呢D家長有D咁叻嘅小朋友，我都講過可能有D小朋友真係可以快成咁，但唔係norm（天才乃超乎常人），所以合唔合理由家長判斷。

原文章由 TINGMUM 於 07-11-9 07:26 硐表
HART,

我之前都講過"睇開書的小朋友, 是"臘"得好快, 大致知個內容便算, 唔一定逐隻字睇得清清楚楚".呢個世界上有人可以吞劍, 不一定是人人可以做到. 但不否認確有一些人可以做到. 做到的人亦不一定是GIFTED. 以後有 ...

作者: mcheung1 時間: 07-11-9 10:09

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作者: warrrren 時間: 07-11-9 10:53

Dear annie40 and Kate,

I revisited this forum after a long time away and came across your posts. Good, something worth reading finally. It sickens me that the lively exchange between you two has been turned into a catfight. Do not feel discouraged. I enjoy reading your posts and am sure I am not alone.

BTW, what is the big deal about 1,000 books a year? Search me.

作者: stjoboldboy 時間: 07-11-9 12:34

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作者: christf 時間: 07-11-9 20:15

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作者: christf 時間: 07-11-9 20:31

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作者: warrrren 時間: 07-11-10 10:09

Dear Christf,

To admit making a mistake is not a big deal !!!!

Agree. No problem. Absolutely.

Fine, someone might have made a mistake. But, what is the big deal? What I cannot understand is why some people are so much concerned about the number of books a kid can read in a day, a month, a year. There are some bigger and more important issues in Annie's and Kate's posts but nobody seems interested. Let's say Annie's made a mistake in saying that her kid can read a thousand books of 200-500 pages. So what? What the heck does it have to do with the points she made? Does her points become less valid because her kid can only read five hundred books a year instead of a thousand? I for one do not care whether Annie's kid or anybody's kid can read five hundred or a thousand books. In fact, I would congratulate you if you tell me your boy is writing a biliography on J.S. Bach. By the way, I have no reason to believe that it is impossible for a kid to READ a thousand books in a year. I would be silly of me if I let myself be limited by my own experience and knowledge, which is very limited indeed. After all, the world is much larger than I can imagine.

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作者: Annie123 時間: 07-11-10 11:21

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作者: warrrren 時間: 07-11-10 18:12

Dear Annie123,

Everybody can doubt what the other Annie says. I myself have doubt. However, as I do not know Annie and her kid personally, it is not up to me accuse her of lying. As Christf says, it takes a genius to read a thousand books a year. But who am I to say that Annie's girl is not one of those little geniuses? Why should the two sides engage in lengthy arguments when neither side can prove or disprove anything?

作者: thankful 時間: 07-11-10 23:54

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作者: Annie123 時間: 07-11-11 10:13

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作者: hart 時間: 07-11-12 10:50

再講落去真係冇乜意思，相信大多數父母上BK都係想揾料，向其他父母取經、交流吓，都係為咗自己小朋友嘅將來，正面的交流、分享吓、互相學習和幫助原是好事，一旦變為互相攻擊，又對誰有益處呢？

開始時Annie40講個女睇1000本書，我只覺得「咁誇張」？但都冇立即回應，亦未預料會引發連番爭辯。但同一句說話看在不同人的眼裏就有不同的效果，有家長可能會問﹕「佢個女咁叻，點解我個仔唔得嘅？」做成情緒不安。判斷力好嘅就回應都「費事」，覺得係亂噏。又有Ｄ理性D嘅會計吓數，睇吓合唔合理。有D會話﹕「沒甚麽是不可能的，我身邊也有這樣的孩子。」但人就是喜歡比較的，能真正做到「她的孩子做到了又與人何干？」的又有多少人？

之前有個幼稚園家長都話自己個女一晚睇八十幾本書，有家長請教她，她只是confirm話係事實，沒有人再討論下去，也就不了了之。我只覺得Annie40可能誇張咗，甚至有人用「說謊」來形容她，但是否有必要澄清呢？可能她的孩子真的能做到，又或者她的所謂閱讀其實只是browse吓，與其繼續作出無謂的揣測，變成互相攻擊，不如就當她的孩子就是這樣的有天份。我想大家會同意的是﹕一年看1000本200-500頁的書，絕不是一般指標，對嗎？我想這樣大家會開心D。

作者: wawamama 時間: 07-11-12 19:16

1000本...

上次去幼稚園家長講座，也聽到一位家長說她的小朋友K1已讀過千多本書...?

速讀當然是一個很好的技能，但是要學好英文，或是任何一種語言，應該多看些有養分的書。如果一直讀同一個水平的書...不會覺得無趣嗎？

Harry Potter這類流行小說只能算是消遣。

作者: christf 時間: 07-11-13 09:39

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作者: violinviolin 時間: 07-11-13 20:33

It is important for kids (and adults) to have a balanced life. In their spare time, they could play some sports, watch some TV programms like news, Discovery, National Geography, etc., and just play and have some fun, in addition to reading. I believe that most parents do not want their kids to be 'book worms'.

作者: christf 時間: 07-11-13 22:36

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作者: wnanama 時間: 07-11-15 12:52

原文章由 annie40 於 07-11-5 17:16 硐表
Regret to raise queries about reading book q'ty and
level. I just want to encourage parents to give more relaxed parenting method for children. The answer would be well understood by those parent ...

Dear all,

Did you get the point?
Why there're always some parents so "細眉細眼" and like to attack others.

作者: violinviolin 時間: 07-11-19 19:22

I just have a hard time to relate reading 600 pages of books per day to 'relaxed parenting'. Perhaps I am "細眉細眼". But like Anson Chan is saying in her bit for LegCo, the devil is in the details.

作者: Kate.Tong 時間: 07-11-19 22:46 標題: Hello

Annie,

Thanks for your reply, and it is encouraging. "Geniune interest to learn" is exactly what I am ooking for.

My son now 22 months and has joined YC playgroup for 8 months. In recent weeks, he starts to pick up book to read/ flip, though I know he is not really read. But glad he has a start.

I always remind myself to allow sufficient time for child to learn. I recall one thing I like YC, as belows:
When I first joined YC, teacher there keep remind me and my maid, "don't always hold his hands to do things, he will observe, learn. If he has confident, he will act it out. If you always hold his hands, he has no chance to work and teacher will not know whether you (adult) do it or your son do it. Also, it makes them difficult to observe your child progress " You know, parents do not want to waste money and time, and try the best to help the child, when do movement, dancing...etc. Anyway, I listened to them. Few weeks later, my son can act them out and enjoy a lots. I also find that whenever he attend the lesson, he pay very good attention (during story time, song time) to teachers. So, I do think they do remind me in a good way and let my child with good exposure for self learning.

By the way, I am not here to sell YC, but just share 1 thing they do help(remind) me a lot. I really think if school/teacher can observe your child and provide comments to you/ your child may make major difference.

I look forward to know more about good International school or any school who devoted to inspire child. Anyway, I have long long way to go as my son is only 22 months. Appreciate if any of you provide more sharing on good school.

Thanks.
Kate

作者: annie40 時間: 07-11-20 13:00

Dear Kate,

Hereunder is a very inspired book for parents that was highly recommended by Mr Lam Hang Chi of The Hong Kong Economic Journal (Shun Pao) for his daughter, Lam Zai Shan, when she had a new born baby a few years ago. In that article Mr Lam advised her daughter not hurt her son by trying too hard , and in fact, that's not necessary.

The Over-Scheduled Child:
by Alvin Rosenfeld, Nicole Wise, and Robert Coles

If I don't remember wrong, Miss Lam is very brilliant and had got her doctor degree when she's about 21 years old. I always puzzles how could she do it. But life is not fair. Her father and she should have gripped some kind of wise about learning and life.

It could be one of very important guide books for us.

作者: stjoboldboy 時間: 07-11-20 14:50

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