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標題: 陳守仁 (TSL) vs 聖瑪加利 (St. Margaret’s) [打印本頁]

作者: gordon 時間: 07-10-17 12:31 標題: 陳守仁 (TSL) vs 聖瑪加利 (St. Margaret’s)

These 2 schools are quiet similar. 如果兩間都收你, 係會掂選擇?

Why?

Thanks
Gordon

作者: CheCheMan 時間: 07-10-17 13:20

I just pass-by BK and read this topic. For my own view, I don't like TSL coz one of my friend's daughter is studying inside and the comment is......

Hence, I pick CKY instead.

原文章由 gordon 於 07-10-17 12:31 硐表
These 2 schools are quiet similar. 如果兩間都收你, 係會掂選擇?

Why?

Thanks
Gordon

作者: aclam 時間: 07-10-17 13:56

I don't like st.margaret. The campus is too small for both primary and secondary school. The higher grade students look too 'in' to me.

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-17 14:01

CheCheMan

the comment is......可唔可以講d來聽? pm 得嗎?

我識人係tsl度讀, 佢地d老師係外國讀完書, 而聖瑪加利就係abc, 陳守仁就谷好多,因佢無中學, 但比起其他"保記"少好多多功課.

原文章由 CheCheMan 於 07-10-17 13:20 硐表
I just pass-by BK and read this topic. For my own view, I don't like TSL coz one of my friend's daughter is studying inside and the comment is......

Hence, I pick CKY instead.

作者: WYmom 時間: 07-10-17 14:19

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-17 14:01 硐表
CheCheMan

the comment is......可唔可以講d來聽? pm 得嗎?

我識人係tsl度讀, 佢地d老師係外國讀完書, 而聖瑪加利就係abc, 陳守仁就谷好多,因佢無中學, 但比起其他"保記"少好多多功課.
...

CheCheMan,

Can you just tell the comments of TSL even it is negative? I think every school has positive and negative comments and it is better for parents to know both. I also heard some friends with kids studying there saying that it is satisfactory, though the teachers are not native English teachers.

PLK schools are well known to be more traditional and pushy as they want their schools to be famous. CKY is using different approach in primary, but they also have to push in the secondary stage if they want their public exam results to look good after a few years.

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-17 14:29

st.margaret 既校舍唔夠培僑,浸小甘大, 同優才差唔多,所以優才都要用埋"志潔"既校舍先至收多d學生.

最初我去過st.margaret外圍,覺得無mud特別,真係好細下!所以小一只能收兩班80人,分三組教. 但係open day我去過每個課室美勞,電腦,家政,圖書館,音樂室... 覺得眼前一亮,好靓好有心思設計, 我個人覺得雖然細dd, 比起其他幾間學校都要"好"! 唔掛得年年加學費,都有甘多家長去報名. 至於software就要入去讀至知啦!

佢既中學經常被人"彈", 係band2中學,所有學生係出面收番來, 好多新直資中學無自己學生, 初期都要收band1尾or band2,到有自己培養出來學生,就5會收出面既學生或者收少好多.

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-17 13:56 硐表
I don't like st.margaret. The campus is too small for both primary and secondary school. The higher grade students look too 'in' to me.

[ 本文章最後由 catcatmom 於 07-10-17 14:43 編輯 ]

作者: sara 時間: 07-10-17 19:19

其實我自己好鍾意呢類學校,而且好近我屋企,學費reasonable!
but我自己學校有一個來自陳守仁的學生,紀律勁差,不過間間學校都有好學生&壞學生,所以我覺得不能一概而論,but我朋友教北區一間EMI名校,佢又話佢間學校有2個細路來自陳守仁,又係紀律好差,除英文好外就一無事處,唔知會唔會係前幾年間學校reputation無咁好,收左d無咁好既學生呢?
但係點解咁多人報??

所以我都好擔心個女入左呢d學校後,d紀律變得越來越差,又學唔到野,到頭來得番個桔

真係令我好頭痕!

ST.MARGARET個中學部一定收埋D唔好既學生,因為之前REPUTATION唔好,但由小學升中學的學生應該會好D!好似培橋中學既學生都係一般(因為我學校有個成績一般既學生轉左去讀),因為都係無得揀!我相信呢類學校將來中學部的學生一定會好D!

其實ST.MARGARET既COMMENT係點?有無多D資料??

作者: gordon 時間: 07-10-17 19:26

Sara,

果然志同道合, 睇黎其實大家都係傾向st. margaret 多d.

gordon

原文章由 sara 於 07-10-17 19:19 硐表
其實我自己好鍾意呢類學校,而且好近我屋企,學費reasonable!
but我自己學校有一個來自陳守仁的學生,紀律勁差,不過間間學校都有好學生&壞學生,所以我覺得不能一概而論,but我朋友教北區一間EMI名校,佢又話佢間學校有2個 ...

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-17 21:07

我想一般直資學校既小朋友都會係活活潑潑,有好多可能仲係資優tim, 多口型,計仔多多, 充滿自信果類, 所以d家長先至唔比佢地讀傳統小學,比錢讀直資學校, 但係唔係無紀律, 就唔知啦! 我識個讀陳守仁既小朋友又好乖喎! 不過佢係女仔.!

雖然陳守仁d英文好好, 因科科都係英文(除中文), 但果個小朋友每星期都要去搵外籍補英文oral, 差唔多$1000/m, 錢又一問題, 仲有時間呢!佢好似要去到中環(佢住新畀) 這些與外籍老師不足原因有關,老師係外國讀完書番離, 始終唔係土生土長,d音都係差好多!

我想讀st margaret,應該不用去這些course嗎? 最多都係補英文既grammer機會多d, 或者到時grammer可以自己教, oral就一定唔可以自己教.

這些points純粹個人推測.我估想英文好,兩間都唔錯.外籍老師有外籍老師好處, 本地老師有本地老師好處.

原文章由 gordon 於 07-10-17 19:26 硐表
Sara,

果然志同道合, 睇黎其實大家都係傾向st. margaret 多d.

gordon

[ 本文章最後由 catcatmom 於 07-10-17 21:21 編輯 ]

作者: gordon 時間: 07-10-17 21:25

catcatmom

千奇唔好誤會, 我並冇覺得TSL d學生無紀律, 更何況我先生根本就係lay間學校前身 (portugese camoes school, 好似係咁上吓名) 既畢業生. 都係好睇個小朋友自己. 我地比較open minded, 我估人地講既無紀律, 在我地眼中可能係活潑.

:
只係st. Margaret's 既concept, 我同我先生非常agree.

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-17 21:07 硐表
我想一般直資學校既小朋友都會係活活潑潑,有好多可能仲係資優tim, 多口型,計仔多多, 充滿自信果類, 所以d家長先至唔比佢地讀傳統小學,比錢讀直資學校, 但係唔係無紀律, 就唔知啦! 我識個讀陳守仁既小朋友又好乖喎! ...

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-17 22:02

gordon

唔好意思!我求其羅左你個message來回應, 等你誤會了!
睇sara既留言,佢應該係學校做, 選校應該好有心德, 起馬消息靈通d,TSL係好自由, d小朋友係好active, 之前我個仔既同學's弟弟讀TSL,佢媽咪想佢轉番亞哥間傳統學校, 但佢亞媽話,算啦! 無可能啦!TSL係好free,轉到佢亞哥果間一定唔慣喎!

保良局陳守仁小學原名賈梅士小學，改名因為新校舍獲得陳守仁捐出三百多萬興建，故新校舍以陳守仁先生命名。賈梅士之前係尖沙咀近佐敦,又低調, 英文又教得好,d畢業生英文係好好,當年用了很多外籍老師(南亞籍老師),葡籍學生?
資料對嗎?
我今年參觀了很直資(TSL我miss左),有好多直資學校既理念很好,很理想化,最怕眼高手低,但st. margaret's好商業味,但i like.陳守仁就會谷d,比起其他直資而言.

原文章由 gordon 於 07-10-17 21:25 硐表
catcatmom

千奇唔好誤會, 我並冇覺得TSL d學生無紀律, 更何況我先生根本就係lay間學校前身 (portugese camoes school, 好似係咁上吓名) 既畢業生. 都係好睇個小朋友自己. 我地比較open minded, 我估人地講既無紀律, ...

[ 本文章最後由 catcatmom 於 07-10-17 22:12 編輯 ]

作者: gordon 時間: 07-10-17 22:15

掂都好, 大家要加油. 為目標而努力.

請問仲有冇多 d 家長對這兩間學校有唔同comments. 歡迎

歡迎

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-17 22:02 硐表
gordon

唔好意思!我求其羅左你個message來回應, 等你誤會了!
睇sara既留言,佢應該係學校做, 選校應該好有心德, 起馬消息靈通d,TSL係好自由, d小朋友係好active, 之前我個仔既同學's弟弟讀TSL,佢媽咪想佢轉番亞哥間 ...

作者: old8hk 時間: 07-10-17 22:15

原文章由 sara 於 07-10-17 19:19 硐表
其實我自己好鍾意呢類學校,而且好近我屋企,學費reasonable!
but我自己學校有一個來自陳守仁的學生,紀律勁差,不過間間學校都有好學生&壞學生,所以我覺得不能一概而論,but我朋友教北區一間EMI名校,佢又話佢間學校有2個 ...

陳守仁轉左校長，教學方向可能同前個位唔同。我就見過果個女校長，感覺唔到佢對小朋友有愛心。見到家長同小朋友晨早去interview,竟然叫個校工落閘，唔好啤人入去佢間學校。個時喺８：３５，面試時間喺９：００。俾人入去去下廁所，俾小朋友定下神都要啦。

作者: vet 時間: 07-10-17 23:04

前陳守仁校長好friendly架,我在open day 和面試都見過她,
小朋友好似好鐘意佢,成日都四萬甘口,
陳守仁校舍那有閘可落?

他們全用推閘,未夠鐘當然唔開啦!

雖然她已退休,聽說新的男校長也不錯,
最可惜我個女入唔到

作者: 3b 時間: 07-10-18 10:51

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雖然陳守仁d英文好好, 因科科都係英文(除中文), 但果個小朋友每星期都要去搵外籍補英文oral, 差唔多$1000/m, 錢又一問題, 仲有時間呢!佢好似要去到中環(佢住新畀) 這些與外籍老師不足原因有關,老師係外國讀完書番離, 始終唔係土生土長,d音都係差好多!
*Unquote*

catcatmom,

想請問下這個小朋友本身英文程度如何 ? 幼稚園是否就讀於基本以中文教學為主的學校, 所以跟不上 ?

作者: G-Ma 時間: 07-10-18 11:04

st. margaret's 既校舍同隔離英華比就一定細架啦, 英華一級5班, 35-40人一班, 剛是小學已經有1000到1200人, 仲未計中學, 梗係要大d啦. st. margaret's 小學每級只係得80個學生, 小學生總數都只係500人以下, 而且中, 小學返學放學, 小息, 午飯時間都唔一樣, 無咩機會共用學校場地, 其實地方係好夠用, 所以呢方面大家唔需要擔心. 有時間係返學, 小息時間去參觀吓, 就會知道小朋友既活動空間係好充足.

原文章由 aclam 於 07-10-17 13:56 硐表
I don't like st.margaret. The campus is too small for both primary and secondary school. The higher grade students look too 'in' to me.

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-18 11:07

這個小朋友d英文很好,入去陳守仁之前已很好. 雖然讀屋村中文幼稚園(英文極很差,無外籍老師果類幼稚園,但中文就很好.), 但佢媽咪1.5歲比佢讀ymca playgroup,3歲就搵外籍教,跟到去小學.

係陳仁守裡面,邊個中文好,就邊個跑出, 唔係"英文"!佢係全級10名.成績很好!

原文章由 3b 於 07-10-18 10:51 硐表
*Quote*
雖然陳守仁d英文好好, 因科科都係英文(除中文), 但果個小朋友每星期都要去搵外籍補英文oral, 差唔多$1000/m, 錢又一問題, 仲有時間呢!佢好似要去到中環(佢住新畀) 這些與外籍老師不足原因有關,老師係外國讀 ...

作者: sara 時間: 07-10-18 12:06

我係在EMI中學(唔算好TOP,BUT都叫BAND ONE)做野,而家放產假等生所以得閒D!不過就真係同揀學校無咩關係!我D同事D仔女全部都讀"谷"及傳統名校,係得我揀呢D佢地認為係好RISKY既學校!

其實在傳統EMI學校,根本唔係個個細路可以接受英語教學,以我觀察所見,5班裏面其實得3班叫跟得上,其餘兩班都係跟得好辛苦!

那天去st.margaret second in,我都有向個head teacher query,因為st.m唔係行IB,遲d會參加香港會考文憑(即334 system個試)!咁會唔會銜接唔到?個HEAD TEACHER話其實佢地上到唔知小學幾多年級就會開始著重成績,如果成績唔好,佢地年頭10月就會通知定家長

,叫家長留意子女可能要留班

,然後會cut個細路既午膳or課外活動時間,參加增潤課程!星期六都有增潤課程,我唔太記得係點run,不過好似係學生(唔記得幾多年級)alternative sat.要返去上,or參加制服團隊,不過又唔知係唔係會實行到呢?

作者: CandiceMaMi 時間: 07-10-18 12:15

I would choice are St. margaren's, 因為少班教學,英文很深,
P1要講英文,同國語.

作者: CheCheMan 時間: 07-10-18 13:07

Sorry for making some parents feel worry abt my comment on TSL.

As told by my friend that her daugther got a place there around 3 years ago. As at that moment, some students from other countries, like India, Indonesia and Pakistan, has allocated to the same class of my friend's daughter. U know, the culture of the countries is rather different to HK, so my friend's daughter suffered a lot and the teachers there also busy in tackling problems arised from this issue.

Moreover, most Eng. teachers are NOT native, so many students need to attend other Eng. courses after school.

So luckily that my friend's daugther has successfully changed to CKY last year. As told by my friend that her daughter like CKY very much coz there's so many activities arranged for her to choose and the teachers are so nice to her. The most important is the girl no need to face the kids of other countries who always behaved so rude....etc.

Although the school fee is comparative expensive in CKY, but my friend told me its worth coz my friend has save extra money for the girl to attend other language courses after school. Her daughter also learnt to find info and to do project by herself.

That's the reason I pick up CKY for my boy lor~

Wish such comment doesn't affect the decision of other parents.

CCM

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-17 14:19 硐表

CheCheMan,

Can you just tell the comments of TSL even it is negative? I think every school has positive and negative comments and it is better for parents to know both. I also heard some friends ...

作者: G-Ma 時間: 07-10-18 13:11

Hi Sara,

st. margaret's 小三開始星期六會返半日(不過唔係個個星期六都要返, 會有時間表)

學校有enrichment class 同 enhancement class, 即係拔尖同補底班, 已經行咗幾年.

學校上到四年班會轉返去比較傳統既教學模式, 因為要應付升中同校外試.

st. margaret's 既好處係幫小朋友打好英文底子, 我囡囡宜家讀緊小二, 好明顯咁睇到佢既英文係進步咗好多, 因為所有科目都係用英文教(除咗中文用普通話教之外), 佢識既生字範圍幾廣, 英文閱讀及聽講能力亦高咗, 相信對佢地將來上中學會幫助好大.

其實操練英文無可能到中學先開始, 比你有機會入到英中, 但英文個底唔好, 都要好辛苦先讀到上去. 所以一定係由小學開始, 打好基礎先會事半功倍. 但係係香港英文小學唔多, 仲要有咁多NET teachers既學校, st. margaret's 係一個唔錯既選擇. 到目前為止我覺得自己當初揀呢間學校係好正確.

原文章由 sara 於 07-10-18 12:06 硐表
我係在EMI中學(唔算好TOP,BUT都叫BAND ONE)做野,而家放產假等生所以得閒D!不過就真係同揀學校無咩關係!我D同事D仔女全部都讀"谷"及傳統名校,係得我揀呢D佢地認為係好RISKY既學校!

其實在傳統EMI學校,根本唔係個個細 ...

作者: CandiceMaMi 時間: 07-10-18 13:41

I would be choice are St. Margarent's, because this
school P1 must be speak English.

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-18 14:18

CheCheMan

Many thanks for your info!

原文章由 CheCheMan 於 07-10-18 13:07 硐表
Sorry for making some parents feel worry abt my comment on TSL.

As told by my friend that her daugther got a place there around 3 years ago. As at that moment, some students from other countries, li ...

作者: sara 時間: 07-10-18 14:26

G-ma,
多謝你的意見,其實我都好鍾意間學校,but學校太新......真係需要多d時間去諗......

all,
既然咁多人覺得陳守仁唔好,點解每年都咁多人報呢?

作者: little-baby 時間: 07-10-18 14:50

sara,

but 學校太新 > 我都有這同感. 而我亦有很多的憂慮 : (1) 怕"講就天下無敵, 做就有心無力". (2) 多外籍老師是好, 但他們那套教學是否適合香港的學生/家長? (3) 面試那天我問過門口的保安姨姨, 她說今年學校改了小學和中學一起小息. 這會否令到操場太迫呢?

陳守仁唔好, 點解咁多人報呢? > 你唔覺每年一到某時間就會有好多多人爭的學校的bad voice 咩

我自己都偏向陳守仁, 所以希望少人同亞女爭就好拉!

原文章由 sara 於 07-10-18 14:26 硐表
G-ma,
多謝你的意見,其實我都好鍾意間學校,but學校太新......真係需要多d時間去諗......

all,
既然咁多人覺得陳守仁唔好,點解每年都咁多人報呢?

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-18 15:39

今年有二千幾人報陳守仁, 我朋友都同囝囝報, 個小朋友唔識講英文, 平日比亞婆睇!但朋友話去見識都好, 倍跑都問題喎! 我提過叫佢可考吓st. margaret, 朋友即刻話唔考慮.
一來成2.8k/m, 二來佢聽都未聽過間學校, 比佢考到都唔會讀!佢老婆好鍾買名牌,佢又好多支出,跟本唔會用三千去比個仔讀書.

保記既幼稚園去考TSL有分加, 佢甘多幼稚園,又有百7個位, 加上佢1.2k 學費,(仲係九龍,真係低讀!) 就可以命運在自己手裡, 好過大抽獎, 將亞仔亞女命運交比個天.

但要求高既家長又比得起, CKY一定好過TSL.前者外籍老師都多好d.

如果體育,美術,音樂.....都有外籍老師教, 小朋友d英文就可以自然自然去用,跟本唔冼死記.

如果英文老師係香港人識講中文, 甘係學習英文或者英文oral方面氣紛就差好遠!

學任何一種語言,經常用,就會叻,唔冼死記.

任你講幾多negative comments, TSL都大把人報,唔會一兩
messages 就嚇走左,因佢地知道千二蚊學費, 唔會有國際學校出來既效果,好多家長都識o林!

[ 本文章最後由 catcatmom 於 07-10-18 15:50 編輯 ]

作者: Knight 時間: 07-10-18 15:56

In my opinion, TSL is a good Primary school.

My boy was offered a place during the second round in-take in June.
While waiting for my boy to finish the entrance test, parents had an hour to watch the Campus TV.
I like the concept of Campus TV very much.
It is a very good educational tool to supplement traditional teaching method.
If a student is admitted to the Campus TV team, I could imagine he or she would have lots of practice in showing, telling and interviewing people.
It is a very useful training to boost confidence and to prepare for the future Secondary School place-seeking interview.

My friend told me that TSL’s teaching method is traditional.
I tend to agree that it is traditional but not boring.
Why not boring?
According to the Campus TV, I found the style of the teachers being friendly and “IN”.
e.g. Students must have fun to see Putonghua lessons crossing over popular TV commercials.
Teacher raps funny lyrics with students. I believe the learning environment must be happy in TSL.

作者: rubymo928 時間: 07-10-20 02:23

原文章由 Knight 於 07-10-18 15:56 硐表
In my opinion, TSL is a good Primary school.
My boy was offered a place during the second round in-take in June.
While waiting for my boy to finish the entrance test, parents had an hour to watch t ...

因為之前無參觀過 TSL, 一直都系向 bk 同 TSL school web 取得 TSL 的資料, 但 19th 終於因阿女 IN TSL 親到 TSL 校舍.
校舍好似比 St. Margaret's 大.  加上 St. Margaret's 小學同中學用同一 compus.  相信 TSL 在校舍方面會優勝小小.

由 TSL 可以比家長 on line 入 application 開始, 我自己巳覺得校方好 consider 家長.  跟住有 interview 情序 vedio 令我更加鍾意 TSL, 因為佢地真系安排得好細心. Interview 當日亦安排得好有 system.

相反 St. Margaret's 在安排方面真系做得唔夠 lor.

我老公評論 TSL 無物 native speaking 老師, 好似唔夠 St. Margaret's 勁 wor.  但我自己都有聽到 TSL 老師們的英語 (當然我唔系專業), 我覺得 ok wor.  我認為唔系鬼佬唔等於佢講的英文唔夠水準 lor.

對於 TSL & St. Margaret's 我都覺得佢地兩間都好專業, 系英語學習環境上會做得好的.

無疑 St. Margaret's 無 TSL 甘出名, 加上St. Margaret's 中學部比人有唔好印象. 但相信 St.Margaret's 隨住佢自己收生的小學學生直升中學之後, 形勢會好轉. 而有直升的中學系 St. Margaret's selling point 之一.

but 唔知是否因為 St. Margaret's 每級開班數唔多, 所以學費比 TSL 貴呢 ?

對於比小 d school fee 但效果唔會差. 加上我自己覺得 TSL 好有心同好有 system 令我對佢加分. So 我自己心儀 TSL 多 d.

well, 以上只系本人的意見, 如果有唔 "arm" 聽的, 請見諒.

作者: rubymo928 時間: 07-10-20 02:27

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-18 15:39 硐表
今年有二千幾人報陳守仁, 我朋友都同囝囝報, 個小朋友唔識講英文, 平日比亞婆睇!但朋友話去見識都好, 倍跑都問題喎! 我提過叫佢可考吓st. margaret, 朋友即刻話唔考慮.
一來成2.8k/m, 二來佢聽都未聽過間學校, 比佢 ...

更正一下, TSL 今年 school fee 系 $1,480 / m.

作者: sara 時間: 07-10-20 11:16

我覺得TSL既學費只係SM既一半,而辦學形式又差唔多,所以都幾吸引! BUT SM都好就係一條龍可以升中學,於是到P.6就唔洗再煩,叻既就可以再APPLY DGS,DBS呀, 普通既就留番在SM 啦,起碼中學派位唔會被派去D BAND 3學校! 自己壓力真係細好多!
當初我揀幼稚園時,我都考慮個呢個因素,所以揀左間有小學BACK-UP既幼稚園而放棄一般人心中的名幼稚園!

作者: 一家三口 時間: 07-10-20 12:27

原文章由 sara 於 07-10-20 11:16 硐表
我覺得TSL既學費只係SM既一半,而辦學形式又差唔多,所以都幾吸引! BUT SM都好就係一條龍可以升中學,於是到P.6就唔洗再煩,叻既就可以再APPLY DGS,DBS呀, 普通既就留番在SM 啦,起碼中學派位唔會被派去D BAND 3學校! 自 ...

sara >> 同我舖排囡囡入幼稚園以至小學的想法都係一樣.

[ 本文章最後由一家三口於 07-10-20 12:29 編輯 ]

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-20 13:09

rubymo928

你有無去過St. Margaret's裡面參觀？我去過St. Margaret's open day,安排得好體貼喎！　

TSL 我就係出面睇左好耐，無入到去，TSL間校舍好舊吓喎！裡面就唔知，有個小型游泳池同雨川小學一樣，不過新起了個音樂大樓，聽聞好正！比所有保小用既．

雖然St. Margaret係中小學共用一校舍，但佢小一只收２班；陳守仁小一收四班．

學校學舍St. Margaret係7350sq米；陳守仁4000sq　(可能起了音樂大樓，大了？）

St. Margaret's係千禧年校舍，裡面設置係好新同好靚吓！

其實我覺得浸小個校舍係最靚！出面條長留梯上到學校門口，有ｄ家長覺得佢有外國大學feel,所以收３千幾４千蚊學費一個月，都有好多家長鍾意讀佢，真係搵人打理都唔少錢．培僑就係好大，開埋泳池就殺死人啦！St. Margaret's就設計上好有心思＋fancy.

係外國留過學同土生土長既abc 的英文一定好唔同，你同傾一兩句一定無ｍｕｄ唔妥！好似搵本地英文老師補習英文大約1-200蚊ｈｒ都得啦！搵鬼or abc 就要350/hr (亞仔之前個鬼咪350/hr ）如TSL老師ｄ英文講到好脫口，我讀TSL個friend就唔冼係出面再搵鬼教英文！陳守仁同蔡繼有係同一機構，一個收千５，另一收５千．ｄ師資都唔同啦！

其實如果講成績可能TSL會谷好多，aggressive好多，就係因為佢無中學，有好有唔好！
　
同埋TSL出名好多，因為之前個校長好勁，去了男拔, 男拔ｄ家長都讚佢喎！打出名堂，而St. Margaret呢，講比十個媽咪級既人，可以十個都唔識！

原文章由 rubymo928 於 07-10-20 02:23 硐表

因為之前無參觀過 TSL, 一直都系向 bk 同 TSL school web 取得 TSL 的資料, 但 19th 終於因阿女 IN TSL 親到 TSL 校舍.
校舍好似比 St. Margaret's 大. 加上 St. Margaret's 小學同中學用同一 compus. 相信 TS ...

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作者: HKQQbaby 時間: 07-10-20 20:44

兩間學校各有所長且一分錢一分貨
TSL 學費便因師生比例較SM高 (35人/班,1班1個班主任, 全校只有幾個net)
SM 學費貴1倍,因初小, 中英數2班80人分3group上堂, 27人/group,每班雙班主任, 共有12個net, 且1/4外籍學生.

如家長經濟許可 baby讀SM語言環境好些 ,且有中學
如成績好, 將來升中時可與TSL的學生一樣考Band one名校

anyway, 最好兩間學校都考, 如考到再煩惱如何選擇,
因兩間學校都不易考.
再好的學校還有, 他不收你, 學校好, 與我們亦無緣.

作者: 小新媽 時間: 07-10-20 23:05

其實真係無得咁比，每間學校都有優點同缺點，視乎你個小朋友既性格、特質係點，仲有你對小朋友既期望係點，加埋晒先黎做個決定。

作者: rubymo928 時間: 07-10-21 12:07

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-20 13:09 硐表
rubymo928
你有無去過St. Margaret's裡面參觀？我去過St. Margaret's open day,安排得好體貼喎！　
TSL 我就係出面睇左好耐，無入到去，TSL間校舍好舊吓喎！裡面就唔知，有個小型游泳池同雨川小學一樣，不過新起了個音樂大樓，聽聞 ...

catcatmom,

Open Day 我有去, 聽介紹學校.

你誤會左, 我所指安排未夠好, 唔系指 Open Day, 而系指 SM 在安排 interview 上.  i.e.  通知你何時 1st IN, 等好耐都無 tel. 打去問, 對方都答唔到, 只叫你等 tel.  等到 tel 通知 1st IN.  問對方是否要帶任何文件.  對方答我唔清楚.  於是我只好在 bk 上查問.

1st IN 完佢地帶番個小朋友落 ground floor, 但唔知系咪可以走人.  自己埋去問校務處 reconfirm 系可以走得.

TSL 在 interview 安排方面我自己覺得好好.  所以我心儀佢多 d. 當然可能有家長會認為 interview 安排唔夠好, 唔等於 SM 比 TSL 差.  相反, 我都有建議其他家長去 IN 埋 SM.

其實呢個 topic 開設, 都系比各家長表達自己意見.  我之前都講左
兩間學校都系好學校.  If not, 我都唔會入 form 去 SM見啦. 絕對同意兩間學校各自優點 & 缺點.

其實對事, 對人都好或多或少都會有主觀成分.

當然小朋友一日未入到間學校讀, 對我地做家長都系個 "dream"

我自己兩間學校都鍾意, 不過相比之下, 我系心儀 TSL 多 d.  我覺得小朋友入到 TSL or SM 都系一個好 starting.

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-21 20:41

rubymo928

我明你意思, 因這個是小一入學topic, 因我今年未interview,我係度不斷打聽, 我應該甘講 "st margaret既open day 都好體貼家長,點解小一入學試甘差." 我仲以為好似德望甘安排得好差!

陳守仁有二千幾人上web報名, 如果每個報左名既都打電話通知, 嘩一定好唔得閒, st margaret舊年係6百, 不過我大仔之前報私校都好似係電話通知,陳守仁既面試時間上曬web真係好方便.
其實兩間都甘難考, 陳守仁仲留左一部分位係3round考筆試,睇起來仲難考.

原文章由 rubymo928 於 07-10-21 12:07 硐表

catcatmom,

Open Day 我有去, 聽介紹學校.

你誤會左, 我所指安排未夠好, 唔系指 Open Day, 而系指 SM 在安排 interview 上. i.e. 通知你何時 1st IN, 等好耐都無 tel. 打去問, 對方都答唔到, 只叫你等 tel. ...

作者: Cartier 時間: 07-10-22 12:29

兩者相比, 我會揀TSL.

印象中St. Margaret 在我中學年代是band 5學校, 而家辨直資小學估計不外乎為挽救中學部. 早幾年開始留意新辨直資學校, 因為每間的辨學理念都好出色, 完全比你感覺到什麼是填鴨, 什麼是教育.
可惜, 留意了幾年新辨直資的動向, 說一套做一套的, 不停轉老師的, 兩年轉三個校長的, 都是令我失望. 所以今時今日, 我對於果d 口講的理念已經無動於中, 完全要睇結果.

相對TSL以往幾年的中學派位成績不俗, 而且係保記系列, 會比較有信心.
無可否認, TSL學生的英文口音好本地. 只要pronounciation正確, 我認為冇問題. 相反nat. teacher若不是操正統英式口音, 亦唔見得係好事.
而且, 好多學校的nat teacher流失量相當高, 今天有5位, 下個term走剩一位, 咁又點呢?

唯一係擔心TSL老師的英語詞彙有限, 咁小朋友就真係要多睇書, 英文台或出面再補英文oral.

至於紀律問題, 完全唔係問題, 每個小朋友性格都唔一樣, 一般活動教學之下出黎的學生都比較坐得冇咁定, 又說話多多, 問題多多, 但唔代表佢地學習有問題, 如果因為被classified為紀律差, 我反而會質疑老師的實力.

作者: rubymo928 時間: 07-10-22 16:28

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-21 20:41 硐表
rubymo928

我明你意思, 因這個是小一入學topic, 因我今年未interview,我係度不斷打聽, 我應該甘講 "st margaret既open day 都好體貼家長,點解小一入學試甘差." 我仲以為好似德望甘安排得好差!
陳守仁有二千幾人上w ...

catcatmom,

觀人於微, 我以同一方式去睇每一間學校.  向 interview 上相信好多 bk 家長都認同 TSL 安排 interview 流程好好.  我亦因為此點對 TSL 加分.

一間學校安排 interview 是好與否, 我覺得唔應該以學校收生多小去 measure.  系咪多人 apply 就要安排的好 d, 小人 apply 可以唔使安排好呢 ?

你講 TSL 人多入表, 所以唔可以每個打電話通知 interview, 所以TSL 用一個合適方法去處理 lor.  每間學校都要用好方法去安排 ma.

我唔介意學校用 tel 通知, 但系你要有清楚 instruction.  家長有疑問打去學校問, 對方只系答 "你等電話啦".  要帶物野去 interivew "唔清楚".  見完無人同你講 "你地可以走得 ga la". sorry , 我唔認為學校應有的安排 lor.

當然對於某些家長會唔覺得好大問題.  最主要睇番學校教育, 師資等等 ... 我唔反對, 因為每個人有自己觀點.

德望我無入 form , 無去 interview , 只系在 bk 上睇到其他 bk parents 的評論.  但系咪 SM 要同 d  比佢安排得差過佢的學校去  compare 呢 ---- 好彩, 阿某水重差過我 wor, 我都唔系好差呀 !

其實我都為 SM 唔低, 點解 interivew 方面唔安排得好 d 呢 !

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-22 20:09

rubymo928

其實十問九唔應,又係好唔開心既! :cry: 我當年都打好多次電話去學校(私校&dss)問d資料, 我記得TSL&英華小學d職員態度最差, (最好禮貌係油塘果間dss) TSL果個仲好寸,係度讀既朋友話佢地係甘+啦,名校o亞嗎! 而英華果個又係mud都唔知!不過無影響我對2間學校既觀感. 我返而覺得過程唔重要,最重要係結果.

不過兩間學校小朋友考到任何一間,都好叻! 係真既!

原文章由 rubymo928 於 07-10-22 16:28 硐表

catcatmom,

觀人於微, 我以同一方式去睇每一間學校. 向 interview 上相信好多 bk 家長都認同 TSL 安排 interview 流程好好. 我亦因為此點對 TSL 加分.

一間學校安排 interview 是好與否, 我覺得唔應該以學校 ...

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作者: 木土土 時間: 07-10-22 23:43

我覺得純以升中比較, sm 不會比 tsl 有好處.

因 St. Margaret's 中學唔出名, 如果在tsl讀得唔太差, 我覺得升中要考入St. Margaret's 中學無mug難道. 如果在tsl讀得好, 很多band one (include those elite ones)中學有機會

作者: 木土土 時間: 07-10-22 23:49

TSL 都係雙班主任! 現時 P.1 是 30/32 人一班

原文章由 HKQQbaby 於 07-10-20 20:44 硐表
兩間學校各有所長且一分錢一分貨
TSL 學費便因師生比例較SM高 (35人/班,1班1個班主任, 全校只有幾個net)
SM 學費貴1倍,因初小, 中英數2班80人分3group上堂, 27人/group,每班雙班主任, 共有12個net, 且1/4外籍學生. ...

作者: 木土土 時間: 07-10-23 00:02

TSL with students from other countries 是其一大賣點 (相信CYC or ST. M 都唔多).

學生自小在多元化環境學習, 與不同國籍小朋友相處, 得定會比失多! At least 學會不歧視少數族裔人士(例如說那些孩子沒有教養).

Although TSL use traditional syllabus (i.e. sane acedamic standard as local school), unlike most traditional school, mstudent with good or bad acedamic result are very happy for their school life. Teachers will not discriminate those students with result not good.

Another point, 仲有free法文/日文學, 咁既學費, 超值!

原文章由 CheCheMan 於 07-10-18 13:07 硐表
Sorry for making some parents feel worry abt my comment on TSL.

As told by my friend that her daugther got a place there around 3 years ago. As at that moment, some students from other countries, li ...

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-23 11:58

木土土

ST. M 都有好多外籍學生, 一班有4/5個;TSL 一班6/7個(朋友個女果班), ST. M topic有個媽咪個小朋友係mix, 爸爸係英/美國人, 識講中文. CKY多唔多外籍學生就唔知啦!

原文章由 木土土 於 07-10-23 00:02 硐表
TSL with students from other countries 是其一大賣點 (相信CYC or ST. M 都唔多).

學生自小在多元化環境學習, 與不同國籍小朋友相處, 得定會比失多! At least 學會不歧視少數族裔人士(例如說那些孩子沒有教養).

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作者: gordon 時間: 07-10-23 12:23

TSL 同 st. margaret's係好似, that's why I post this topic here. 但唔知掂解, 人人都prefer TSL more than St. Margaret's. 因為 po leung kuk個名?

St. Margaret's 一直都係我心儀既學校. For TSL, 上星期五, 我地去咗interview, 我同老公都唔鍾意間學校, 盡管我老公同叔仔係該校前身既畢業生, 亦都有相識既有力人士, 但校內老師講英文既quality 就真係

(The above is just my opinion after the school interview).

原文章由 木土土 於 07-10-23 00:02 硐表
TSL with students from other countries 是其一大賣點 (相信CYC or ST. M 都唔多).

學生自小在多元化環境學習, 與不同國籍小朋友相處, 得定會比失多! At least 學會不歧視少數族裔人士(例如說那些孩子沒有教養).

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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 07-10-23 12:45

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-23 11:58 硐表
木土土

ST. M 都有好多籍學生, 一班有4/5個;TSL 一班6/7個(朋友個女果班), ST. M topic有個媽咪個小朋友係mix, 爸爸係英/美國人, 識講中文. CKY多唔多外籍學生就唔知啦!

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CKY外籍學生較少。

作者: Cartier 時間: 07-10-23 15:42

原文章由 gordon 於 07-10-23 12:23 硐表
TSL 同 st. margaret's係好似, that's why I post this topic here. 但唔知掂解, 人人都prefer TSL more than St. Margaret's. 因為 po leung kuk個名?

St. Margaret's 一直都係我心儀既學校. For TSL, 上星期五, ...

I prefer TSL to SM not because of PLK, but just do not have confidence in SM.:-|

Could you please share any comment on the spoken English of the TSL teachers ?

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作者: WYmom 時間: 07-10-23 15:53

原文章由 Cartier 於 07-10-23 15:42 硐表

I prefer TSL to SM not because of PLK, but just do not have confidence in SM.:-|

I wonder if some parents of upper primaries (P.4 to 6) can give some advice about SM as the school will switch to traditional teaching and large size class after P.3. Do the students like reading a lot? Do they have a lot of homework? Do they need to take English public exam such as Cambridge? Are there many students need to repeat in P.5? As I have experienced, P.1 to 3 can be quite relax, but pressure and challenges increase more and more from P.4 to 6.

Thanks.

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作者: JAMmama 時間: 07-10-23 16:25

原文章由 G-Ma 於 07-10-18 11:04 硐表
st. margaret's 既校舍同隔離英華比就一定細架啦, 英華一級5班, 35-40人一班, 剛是小學已經有1000到1200人, 仲未計中學, 梗係要大d啦. st. margaret's 小學每級只係得80個學生, 小學生總數都只係500人以下, 而且中 ...

路過.....
現在英華每班最多只得32/33人一班, 所以並不是你所講的這麼多人!

轉直資後, 只收30人一班, 佢地唔會多收人數, 因為想小班教學!

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-23 16:51

WYmom

ST.M & TSL 兩間都係傳統, 不過採取活d教學方式, 比起一般津貼小學, 小朋友會有多d機會發言. 每次見陳守仁既爸爸,佢都話亞女間學校係傳統小學,(但佢都好鍾意間學校).

假設你係搵少功課,少壓力,多d時間睇書既小學,我相信兩間學校都唔係你杯茶,p3打後會好忙.
我想:培僑,浸小,大港同學會,臻美......(佢地學國際學校模式辦學, 雖然無左ib. ) 朋友囝囝(p4/5)讀大港同學會,有好多時間睇書, 每日無mud功課.
這些學校講創造思維,講能力唔係講成績!

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-23 15:53 硐表

I wonder if some parents of upper primaries (P.4 to 6) can give some advice about SM as the school will switch to traditional teaching and large size class after P.3. Do the students like reading a ...

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作者: WYmom 時間: 07-10-23 17:09

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-23 16:51 硐表
WYmom

ST.M & TSL 兩間都係傳統, 不過採取活d教學方式, 比起一般津貼小學, 小朋友會有多d機會發言. 每次見陳守仁既爸爸,佢都話亞女間學校係傳統小學,(但佢都好鍾意間學校).

假設你係搵少功課,少壓力,多d時間睇書 ...

catcatmom,

Do you know any kid studying in SM for a few years? I seldom hear advice from upper primary SM parents, and the school also only focus to talk about P.1 to 3, and then their secondary students are ...

That's why TSL appears to be better.

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-23 17:35

WYMOM

無呀! 一個都唔識! 唔好話高年班, 低年班都唔識! St M. d 家長全部係web上兜答番來, 我似e+我同你o甘!我識你WYMOM,你識我係catcatmom

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你小朋友讀TSL或者港大同學會, 我幫你8多吓, 都得!

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-23 17:09 硐表

catcatmom,

Do you know any kid studying in SM for a few years? I seldom hear advice from upper primary SM parents, and the school also only focus to talk about P.1 to 3, and then their secondary s ...

作者: badongo12300321 時間: 07-10-23 18:22

gordon,

我本身也是偏向鍾意sm 多d, 佢地辦學理念提到會去培養學生學習既興趣, 而且佢地既師生比例也比較理想, 這都是我喜愛的.

請問呢到有冇家長識得一d 朋友或親戚既子女正在o係sm 到讀緊小學架呢? 可以大家一齊分享下嗎? 佢地o係學校學習得愉快嗎? 我最關心既學校師生關係好嗎? 因為佢地真真正正感受到學校既情況如何, 我要既係真實野, 如果有既, 可以分享一下俾大家嗎?!

作者: WYmom 時間: 07-10-23 18:26

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-23 17:35 硐表
WYMOM

無呀! 一個都唔識! 唔好話高年班, 低年班都唔識! St M. d 家長全部係web上兜答番來, 我似e+我同你o甘!我識你WYMOM,你識我係catcatmom .

你小朋友讀TSL或者港大同學會, 我幫你8多吓, 都得!

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Thanks a lot.  For TSL, I have a few friends with kids studying there in different levels from P.1 uptil P.6, all of them like the school.  For HKUGA, I won't consider as it is too far.

I know you like SM very much,  just feel that it is better to get more info. about upper primaries and secondary as it is not easy to change school.

I won't think that traditional approach cannot develop kids' interest in reading, all depends on how the school teaches.  Even DGS is very traditional, but their students always carry a book with them to read.

作者: gordon 時間: 07-10-23 18:48

1 or 2 from BK. Feedbacks are positive. Feel lucky to study in school. Great improvement in English...

Go to St. Margaret's school's topic, you can ask them for more infos. Before I confirmed this school, I have contacted one of the mommy in BK for almost half year. Her daughter is studying in P2 now. She is very kind and helpful.

hv u paid the registration fee yet?

gordon

原文章由 badongo12300321 於 07-10-23 18:22 硐表
gordon,

我本身也是偏向鍾意sm 多d, 佢地辦學理念提到會去培養學生學習既興趣, 而且佢地既師生比例也比較理想, 這都是我喜愛的.

請問呢到有冇家長識得一d 朋友或親戚既子女正在o係sm 到讀緊小學架呢? 可以大家一 ...

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-10-24 11:13

WYmom

當你個小朋友入左傳統小學之後,(p3打後)你便知道有幾多時間讀課外書,如果鐘意閱讀既小朋友,今本就好唔夠時間! 唔鍾意閱讀既小朋友, 做完功課都訓教啦!(有 d 9:30就訓) 好多學校都規定同學帶書返學. DGS係做就一個好好既讀書環境, 但好睇小朋友本身&家庭有幾多支援,我識個畢業DGS既女仔,英文好一般!英文都credit 唔到,真係唔出奇喎!good hope 英文都超勁,睇番佢既website,英文會考一半人o羅A-C!

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-23 18:26 硐表

Thanks a lot. For TSL, I have a few friends with kids studying there in different levels from P.1 uptil P.6, all of them like the school. For HKUGA, I won't consider as it is too far.

I know you ...

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