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作者: HoiYauBB 時間: 07-10-3 02:58 標題: 超差 : 九龍站柏基

我報了一星期二日的 playgroup.... $1700 , 2 hours per class. 是我返過咁多playgroup 最差一間

課堂半小時的時候已經覺得超失望, 哂錢, 點知仲激氣本來二小時的堂, 去到一個鍾, 個老師話有野宣佈, 就是因為 government ( education) policy change, 所有2 歲以下的堂都要是 1 個半鍾, 我見所有家長都沒反應, 我自己就打算下課同secretary 談如何安排每堂損失的半個鍾, 因為8 堂一期就沒了2堂了. 點知問secretary Anx 小姐會否有any compensation policy or plan , 佢竟然 attitude 超吋話沒wor.... 我表達意見話當時比錢的是for 2 hours class 但現在得一個半鍾, 就咁求其話education ( government ) policy change 就好似沒責任咁, 佢就竟然話個半鍾同2個鍾差不多姐 .....

佢 ( or school) 好似完全沒想過家長的感受, 一d respect 都沒, 我話覺得貨不對板要withdraw class, 佢attitude 超輕佻話好呀, refund 比你lor...你同校長講lor......  個校長就一味話government change , they cannot control, 我話我　understand this is not your decision to change to 1 1 /2 hours, but I do care about how school communicate this and deal with this change with parents, 點解沒人在我交錢時　or even　正式上課前交代and explain this changes to me, 等我們家長自行決定 continue or what .... 現在好似很不尊重家長，　no discussion and must accept, not really a good feeling. adding to the attituade of the scretary , I told the principle I have no hesistation to withdraw.....

講返課堂, 全程好似小朋友落會所自己識朋友自己玩咁.... 話就話有2個老師, 個印度藉  ms pxxti 全堂講不過十句　（　個半鍾內唱了2 or 3 songs then stand aside and LOOK at the children play only even not ACTIVELY talk or play to the children, 另一個ABC 都叫有做 d  野, 不過個半鍾的 class    超搵笨

15min  free play  ( 大部份時間自己玩, 沒老師 lead no topic to talk）

5 min clear up

5 min make a circle and show a body to teach eyes, nose ...

20 min go out to playgroup and play yourself  ( 大部份時間自己玩,沒老師 lead no topic to talk））

５min clean hands  ( clean hand no teaching talking)

10 min snack time  (eating no teacher talking)

15 min drawing / clay ( 大部份時間自己玩, 沒老師 lead no topic to talk））

10 min sings 3 songs in a circle
good bye

仲唸住比bb 多聽/講英文, 點先原來$200 一堂比人騙鐘之餘,  只是得2個姐姐 ( teacher)  陪玩咁, 連playgroup  最 common  的  sing songs and dance 都是是但 3 隻講多d (聽多d) 英文都沒．．．．不如自己去伯會所玩仲開心．．．

我覺得間學校很不尊重家長，　當ｄ家長是 stupid .... 　如要報此校　請三思，　luckily 我只是讀playgroup 不是 join 了kindergarten ja....

後話原來隔鄰class 仲沒宣佈 tim....有阿婆湊孫上仲以為上了2 個鐘 tim.....

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作者: BB成長期 時間: 07-10-3 10:52

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作者: SmallMommy 時間: 07-10-3 11:19

That is the concern I have when I call this school dated back to early July07 to check about their playgroup details. I have asked a couple of basic questions for their classes commerced in Sept (just 8 weeks later) but their answers were disappointed. Questions like, Do they have an agenda for the playgroup, any quarterly theme, background of their teacher...etc. All the answer is "not yet confirm". It just surprised me coz the lady told me anyway all the classes are full (they accept students registration but without a proper plan on how to conduct a class??). Well, hope they can get better moving onwards...

作者: pekklekc 時間: 07-10-3 11:39

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作者: teresalok620 時間: 07-10-3 12:27

thanks for your info HoiyauBB. 我都joined左PIPs pg一個月, 早2日印印姐姐比左張回條我, 係問我地意見要keep住1.5hours定2 hours, 因為可能發現2個鐘對好多小朋友係較為長, 上堂後期開始眼訓同扭計. 由於之前我join係想晴晴上長時間嘅pg, 咁我照揀返2小時, 因為佢都ok, 可能大個小小. 不過我好奇怪, 如果一間有經驗嘅學校, 唔係應該大約知道小朋友嘅專注力可以去到幾耐? 而唔係因為小朋友唔ok, 所以要cut短上堂時間.

之前我請左幾日假陪晴晴上堂, 都發現個pg唔係太有系統, 真係太多free time, 好似playtime真係free play, 老師唔會特別同小朋友玩. 之前校長都問過我地意思, 反映左, 進步左少少, 不過都唔係好左好多, 所以我都打算quit. 之前joined係因為佢可以直上prenursery, 不過我喺pg時都睇過prenursery/kindergarten上堂情況, 我都係無咩信心同唔打算比晴晴讀, 所以我都會join過其他playgroup.

作者: SandraOng 時間: 07-10-3 14:30

Thank you all for your feedback. I also registered my baby for the 2 days/week class. I personally am not too impressed with how it is runned. The school only allows the children to enter the premise earliest 5 mins before school starts at 8:30am (be it rain or shine). Not much of interaction between the teacher and the children, and can't seem to catch the children's attention. The school fees will actually escalate to HK$6,380 /mth when the children move on to pre-nursery!

Are there any good playgroup that you recommend? I have been looking for one since this school does not seem to meet our expectation. Most other international schools accept enrollment for at least 3year old.

作者: HoiYauBB 時間: 07-10-3 18:25

BB成長期 : the principle promised to refund me but need to wait 1 month, so let's see if this will happen

SmallMommy: you have good eyesight, I have never think about they have only little time for sing and dance but all play yourself.

pekklekc : when I visited their school during July when they are still under construction, all of them are nice, but after they got many students their attituade changed, especially that secretary.

teresalok620 : i think this kind of questionnair is just a tricky thing, actually this is no choice but have to follow the governement rule but this school presented that seems like they are democratic for all parents to choose, finally i am sure they will tell you most of the parents prefer 1 1/2 hours class and that settle the case. they supposed no one will question the result. right ?

作者: elizatyy 時間: 07-10-3 20:19

Bad playground = bad nursery

作者: 熊仔仔媽咪 時間: 07-10-3 20:34

多謝各位媽咪的分享呀. 我的 bb 現在 6 個月大, 我本來都諗住俾佢去 PIPS 的 PG, 諗住收得咁貴應該唔錯吖, 原來係咁的, 真係有 d 失望. 我之前參觀咗多多 Tutor Times, 都係頗失望. 各位媽咪有咩其他介建議呢?

作者: 車莉 時間: 07-10-3 22:03

teresalok620,
hi hi, 記得我嗎? 我係stephy媽咪, 即係有個小肥妹好喜歡同妳老公玩 ball ball 果個呢

我地已經冇返pips喇, 因為英雄所見略同, 我都覺得佢地唔店. 真係同落club house無別. 有時間搵日出0黎傾下計, 飲下茶, 交流下

原文章由 teresalok620 於 07-10-3 12:27 硐表
thanks for your info HoiyauBB. 我都joined左PIPs pg一個月, 早2日印印姐姐比左張回條我, 係問我地意見要keep住1.5hours定2 hours, 因為可能發現2個鐘對好多小朋友係較為長, 上堂後期開始眼訓同扭計. 由於之前我joi ...

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作者: teresalok620 時間: 07-10-3 22:09

hoiyauBB, 今日我打過去PIPs, ms yuen又好nice, 佢話好有可能11月會轉1.5hours, 不過要reconfirm, 同埋佢問左校董學費可能再會調整, 不過又係一樣, 都係未知. 我同佢講左我會quit, 同埋讀左一個月嘅意見, 因為我未交10月學費, 所以唔駛refund. 你要追緊啲呀. 今日我都問左其他幾間學校, 應該可以好快同晴晴轉新學校

作者: kenzo 時間: 07-10-4 01:10

乜government 有啲咁既rule咩? 咁點解kingston既1 year old playgroup又可以上2.5鐘?

作者: kenzo 時間: 07-10-4 01:13

原文章由 teresalok620 於 07-10-3 22:09 硐表
hoiyauBB, 今日我打過去PIPs, ms yuen又好nice, 佢話好有可能11月會轉1.5hours, 不過要reconfirm, 同埋佢問左校董學費可能再會調整, 不過又係一樣, 都係未知. 我同佢講左我會quit, 同埋讀左一個月嘅意見, 因為我未交 ...

Teresa, 晴晴係未quit左喇? Paco讀埋今個月, 我都會同佢quit, PIPS 實在令我太disappointed.

作者: HoiYauBB 時間: 07-10-4 03:04

,熊仔仔媽咪 same thinking as you ar.....

我本來都諗住俾佢去 PIPS 的 PG, 諗住收得咁貴應該唔錯吖, 原來係咁的, 真係有 d 失望.

teresalok620 / kenzo: yes, they always tell you " not confirm yet" but I don 't think they have choice to change or not change if they told me this is governement rule . so I really doubt what they are saying now and will call and check with education dept tomorrow.

作者: pekklekc 時間: 07-10-4 11:47

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作者: teresalok620 時間: 07-10-4 12:04

原文章由 kenzo 於 07-10-4 01:13 硐表

Teresa, 晴晴係未quit左喇? Paco讀埋今個月, 我都會同佢quit, PIPS 實在令我太disappointed.

kenzo, 係呀, 晴晴已經quit左, 因為我都未交學費

其實因為我住得遠, 如果又唔係太好, 又唔打算比佢去PIPs 讀nursery, 不如轉去第二間

其實我覺得係因為佢有太多小朋友喊, 所以應家長要求縮短. 不過我同佢地講, 其實如果佢收around 1歲小朋友, 可能1.5 hours都太長, 最好係1 hour, 所以佢地應該review一下個課程內容同收生年齡, 唔好為左收而收. 同埋我都比左啲意見, 例如outdoor time 係咪=free time? 老師參與係咪可以多啲, snack time又可以教下小朋友食物名之類. 希望佢地見有咁多人quit, 會檢討一下

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作者: 車莉 時間: 07-10-4 17:00

kenzo,
原來响呢樹又見返paco

, 係呢, 呢個月有冇新同學仔加入? 我去左學之園上kindermusic, 幾新鮮, 幾好喎

原文章由 kenzo 於 07-10-4 01:13 硐表

Teresa, 晴晴係未quit左喇? Paco讀埋今個月, 我都會同佢quit, PIPS 實在令我太disappointed.

作者: Queenie601 時間: 07-10-4 22:56

可能佢地覺得自己個名響, 唔憂無人讀啦. 我上星期send email去問 PN application 嘅嘢. No reply. They are not customer focus...:tongue:

作者: chantw 時間: 07-10-4 22:56

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作者: kenzo 時間: 07-10-4 23:08

原文章由車莉於 07-10-4 17:00 硐表
kenzo,
原來响呢樹又見返paco , 係呢, 呢個月有冇新同學仔加入? 我去左學之園上kindermusic, 幾新鮮, 幾好喎

車莉,

我唔見有新同學仔喎, 今日都係得6個bb咋. 我send左個email去學校反應意見,希望會有改善, 如果唔係我會搵個第二間playgroup.

係呢, 係未係Hampton Place 個間呀? Paco依家都有上kindermusik, 一個星期一次, 佢好鍾意.

作者: 車莉 時間: 07-10-5 13:03

係呀, 海杋軒果間, 幾好呀

原文章由 kenzo 於 07-10-4 23:08 硐表

車莉,

我唔見有新同學仔喎, 今日都係得6個bb咋. 我send左個email去學校反應意見,希望會有改善, 如果唔係我會搵個第二間playgroup.

係呢, 係未係Hampton Place 個間呀? Paco依家都有上kindermusik, 一個星期一次, ...

作者: ksktay 時間: 07-10-5 20:34

It is really sad to hear the news about PG at PIPS. We have enrolled my son to join their PG when he turn 1 at the end of this year. We might need to reconsider based on yours comment.

However, my girl is joinning their PN this year. So far so good, my girl seem like can speak more fluently after 1 month of attendng the class and she is enjoying too!

Today, i have received a call from teacher asking us to join a parent meeting tomorrow with government eduation department. Hope that is no any bad new to tell us... quite worry...

I totally agreed the way their reply to parent queries are very slow and not in good manner...really have no much comment...as we were late to enrol my girl in other nursery.. let see, we might need to considered quickly now so help my girl to enroll in other nursery if they really no improve.

作者: ckc_chris 時間: 07-10-6 01:32

我亦想分享一下有關這間幼稚園的不愉快經驗!我女於9月開始上2歲班PRE-NURSERY CLASS(我女兒本身未夠2歲,但不知何解他們PN CLASS 可以收1歲8個月BB) 但佢哭得比較厲害,約2星期後,原本老師話佢情況已改善,本來我都好放心,但再過多1個星期後有位副校長竟然打電話給我話我個女情緒一直都好唔穩定,一定要將她轉去一個叫過渡班的新班,將呢D同樣情況的小朋友集中一起,呢D絕大部分都係未足兩歲嗰D,而且一定要有家長或姐姐陪同,形式好似上PLAYGROUP一樣，仲預計一直要維持至明年１月．我聽到覺得離晒譜，我本身已交了１０月學費，事前完全無人同我提過，而且果個所謂過渡班學費要貴多成千蚊，上堂時間更加由原本３小時減至２小時(可能依家得番1.5小時),而時間方面要由下午改為上午，完全同我報果D　PRE-NURSERY係兩回事件！然後我話不想更改上堂時間,佢竟然叫我上吓佢地D PLAYGROUP啦,現在聽番HOI YAU BB講,我慶幸無JOIN佢地D PLAYGROUP,因為佢地果時都話PLAYGROUP係2小時,如果唔係依家又係一肚氣! 其實如果佢地真係有經驗辦學嘅話,無理由到開咗學先諗會有D咁嘅情況同埋點去處理呢D情況,其實佢地可以只收足2歲的小朋友,否則小朋友可能因此而從此害怕上學!
我本來要求可否再上多一個月PRE-NURSERY睇下情況掂，但佢都堅持話唔得，可能諗住D家長已經交晒學費，所以一定可以令我們轉過去果個過渡班，但我最後都決定寧願退學了事，我真係再無信心交個小朋友俾佢地教，另外佢話就算退學費亦要至少１個月，校服書包浪費咗都唔緊要，最慘係又要受氣！
我另外再搵pn,其他幼稚園話冇家長陪同的pn class政府規定只可收兩歲以上,如我查明屬實一定知告發佢

To ksktay: can you share what is the meeting about?

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作者: gegemom 時間: 07-10-6 22:59

Thank you for sharing. Now I will not consider this school anymore.
I was thinking to let my bb to study K1 in 2008 in this school since it is near my home. I called the school to ask about K1 application, the staff attitude is 'our school is high quality not everyone can enter'. I asked when can I apply, she said the K1 seats will give priority to their 2 year old class students, if only there is any vacancy it will give to outsiders; but then she said "why don't you join our 2 year old Pre-Nursery? you better hurry there is only a few places left"...
I said my bb is already study PN in another school, she said in this case if I want to get a K1 seat i better apply now by giving 1 month school fee for deposit, but this does not guarantee if I get it or not... I asked when will I know if I get a seat? she said not sure.... and before hang up the phone she reminded me again "you better send us the application form and school fee in these few days, quick...".

Her attitude is like telling you how popular they are, how hard to get in but in fact she just want your $$.

作者: cheerful-BB 時間: 07-10-10 22:21

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作者: kenzo 時間: 07-11-1 17:18

我選擇左1.5小時班.其實我個人prefer兩小時,但係又唔想轉tutor,所以逼住改上1.5小時.

今日係改制後既第一堂. 唉!好disappointed.原本一班maximum 8個學生,依家竟然變成maximum13個學生.其實今日已經得10個bb上堂.但照今日所見,個tutor根本handle唔到咁多學生,平時free play已經多,今日仲多. 好難想像13個bb到齊會係咩景況.

個班房已經唔大,9個大人加8個BB其實係啱啱好.再加多5個大人同5個BB就會好逼,唔夠地方俾BB走動.

PIPS真係越黎越差.

作者: cheerful-BB 時間: 07-11-1 22:23

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作者: 車莉 時間: 07-11-1 23:32

CHEERFUL-BB,
妳唔係話GRACE好喜歡PIPS, 返學好開心, 又近妳嗎? 為何突然又QUIT?

原文章由 cheerful-BB 於 07-11-1 22:23 硐表
:tongue: Grace also quite this school.................

We are looking for other playgroup, any sugesstion?

Cheerful-BB

作者: cheerful-BB 時間: 07-11-1 23:51

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作者: 車莉 時間: 07-11-2 18:45

咁另一班d人都走晒?

原文章由 cheerful-BB 於 07-11-1 23:51 硐表
They changed teacher and time schedule..........after change time only Grace one child in class>>>>>>>ha ha

Also just turn into Nov..........don't want to pay for this month otherwise need to wait o ...

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作者: teresalok620 時間: 07-11-3 00:12

PIPs為左收多啲學生而咁樣改時間, 加人數好唔啱. 佢地真係要好好檢討下. 我見深井間PIPs個pg, 只係1.5 hrs, for 18months以上, 我覺得好合理. 如果佢地係新, 點解唔參考下旗下其他2間學校嘅課程.

而家晴晴轉左去victoria pg, 上左第一堂, 我老公話好好多, 課堂好有趣, 個女又開心. 成堂都好smooth好有系統, 一班有2個老師. 其實PIPs就算係新, 都應該檢討一下, 唔應該因為新而浪費參加左嘅家長時間同金錢.

作者: sarahmama 時間: 07-11-3 17:19

Last Saturday's SCMP newspaper:

Oct 27, 2007

"A new kindergarten in West Kowloon has been forced to shut down pre-nursery classes costing more than HK$6,000-a-month after it was discovered it was operating without a licence."

作者: teresalok620 時間: 07-11-5 00:07

哎呀

作者: dwvmbb 時間: 07-11-11 11:02

原文章由 teresalok620 於 07-11-5 00:07 硐表
哎呀

想問一問你地對柏基playgroup要跟足佢地學校假期，十一月又無啦啦唔駛返三日，有冇意見？

坦白講，十月時有個成星期的term　break已經覺得浪費金錢，十一月又多幾日老師進修日，又兩日唔駛返學，再睇下個school　calendar二月直頭返兩個禮拜，我唔清楚其他幼稚園的playgroup係唔係咁，不過我覺得佢地唔同返五個半日的學生，成日咁停下返下唔理想，而且咁計法學費真係好貴！

作者: wingwingbo 時間: 07-11-12 23:32

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作者: bigbigmother 時間: 07-11-13 14:47

原文章由 HoiYauBB 於 07-10-3 02:58 硐表
我報了一星期二日的 playgroup.... $1700 , 2 hours per class. 是我返過咁多playgroup 最差一間

課堂半小時的時候已經覺得超失望, 哂錢, 點知仲激氣本來二小時的堂, 去到一個鍾, 個老師話有野宣佈, 就是因為 go ...

Hi HoiYauBB,

Thank you very much for your sharing. My girl is in 3 days playgroup, 2 hours per day. I am a working mother so I could not go with my girl each time. I had just visit the class for once when the class was right after snack time. I saw the babies did nothing in the classroom. They just walked around. I could not see the teacher because the teacher was at a corner. I felt strange at that time: how come no activity, no toys, no once care about the babies except the one who went with the babies. I thought may be at other time, it would be better. However, I ask my husband who went to the class with our girl sometimes. He said the situation was the same. Now after reading your message, I understand what is happening here. I think I need to look for another play group! Any recommends, mothers? Once again thank you very much all mothers who share your opinions to us!

作者: tanoshi127 時間: 07-11-13 16:34

快去教育局投訴這間學校啦

作者: amyyeung 時間: 07-11-13 22:47

多謝分享, 我本打算去陽明的pips,
而家又心大心細了

作者: vvnpo 時間: 07-11-14 01:09

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作者: teresalok620 時間: 07-11-16 23:21

原文章由 vvnpo 於 07-11-14 01:09 硐表
My nephew is studying at 陽明的pips, teachers are very nice, it has got a very very big playground, my sister told me that its sand ground was as big as a pool.

其實九龍柏基可能係新, 佢只係想收多啲學生, 又唔接受家長意見, 所以搞成咁. 至於其他分校, 好似口碑唔錯, 我覺得可以一試

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