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標題: 真道,播道 or 優才? [打印本頁]
作者: yoyo123 時間: 07-9-11 13:52 標題: 真道,播道 or 優才?
真道,播道 or 優才? which one is better?
作者: edea 時間: 07-9-11 14:05
冇話邊間好d既,三間各有長短,要睇個人expectation啦!
作者: freddielau 時間: 07-9-11 22:21
原文章由 edea 於 07-9-11 02:05 PM 硐表 
冇話邊間好d既,三間各有長短,要睇個人expectation啦!
若果家住附近，我看都是三間報晒，成功之後再以自己的喜好去揀啦！
作者: edea 時間: 07-9-11 22:56
原文章由 freddielau 於 07-9-11 22:21 硐表
若果家住附近，我看都是三間報晒，成功之後再以自己的喜好去揀啦！
嘻,我都係咁話,我地兩個都係過來人,深深體會到入唔入到真係太難講得埋,報都幾間冇壞~ 不過呢,如果hold最多hold一兩間好啦,唔好要人地學校開學又空左d位冇人讀咁陰功.好多人等都等唔到位,自己hold住唔俾人讀又好陰功既.
作者: freddielau 時間: 07-9-14 08:37
原文章由 edea 於 07-9-11 10:56 PM 硐表
嘻,我都係咁話,我地兩個都係過來人,深深體會到入唔入到真係太難講得埋,報都幾間冇壞~ 不過呢,如果hold最多hold一兩間好啦,唔好要人地學校開學又空左d位冇人讀咁陰功.好多人等都等唔到位,自己hold住唔俾人讀又好 ...
係呀!我係其中-一個受害者
作者: CINDY媽 時間: 07-9-15 09:23
原文章由 freddielau 於 07-9-14 08:37 硐表
係呀!我係其中-一個受害者
今日約左去in播道,優才好係好理想,但d小朋友好無禮貌,
播道 校長好似好有heart,及注重小朋友的德育,所以我會選它.
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-15 12:59
Cindy媽，
我都好想知道因由，我是今年優才小一家長，每天送小朋友返學，雖然學生比較活潑好動，暫不覺學生好無禮貌；如事態嚴重，應該向校方反應，要校方切留意。大多家長都注重小朋友的德育的。
AFSL
原文章由 CINDY媽 於 07-9-15 09:23 硐表
今日約左去in播道,優才好係好理想,但d小朋友好無禮貌,
播道 校長好似好有heart,及注重小朋友的德育,所以我會選它.
作者: dabbycheung 時間: 07-9-15 14:19
我同意優才學生相比起其他學校既學生，的確係較為活潑好動，大多數學生係鐘意響校園度跑跑跳跳。老師與學生之間既關係，就好似朋友一樣，但我相信學生基本上既禮貌仍會有。
至於有人認為優才學生無禮貌，我覺得每一間學校既學生，都唔敢保証100%既學生係乖同好。如果只屬個別學生無禮貌，無必要咁樣公開抹黑全校學生。
優才中學既校風係區內公認數一數二好，(TKO區各間中學校長同警署開會時講)，所以優才學生既品行，一定唔會係太差。
同時我亦想講，有家長認為我地優才家長，只容許好消息出現響BK.每當有負面消息出現時，我地就急於澄清，好似覺得間學校無缺點咁。我想同呢位家長講，我地唔係覺得優才無缺點，只係久唔久就有D人公開講一d末經証實既消息出嚟。我地身為優才家長，當知道呢D並唔係事實既時侯，我地係有必要企出嚟為學校講返句公道說話。我相信其他學校既家長，如果遇到呢d情況，亦會有呢d正常反應。
Sorry!我無意得罪任何人，只係不吐不快。
作者: 中天英 時間: 07-9-15 23:42 標題: 乜野叫冇禮貌？
我認為有冇禮貌係相對性既, 睇你將條線放响邊度，尺度緊定鬆, 每人都唔同。
我相信响某D人眼中, 對於D - 思相活躍, 勇於發言, 愛發問, 好動, 有創意, 不盲從附和, 甚至挑戰權威 - 既小朋友, 係會標"簽"為 " 冇禮貌" 既。 呢D小朋友優才的確有唔少。
但係優才既其中一個吸引人之處, 咪就係提供一個相對寬鬆既學習環境, 比小朋友自由既空間去學習嗎？
當然優才仍然將 "德肓" 放係好高位置, 目標係培育出"有創意、具爱心"既學生。
呢位家長又咁係優才家長, 從何得知優才學生冇禮貌呢？
我唸都係道聽途說啦; 就算佢眞係見過優才學生, 咁最多1、２個, 冇乜說服力既。
最後, 我想舉一個好多人會覺得 "冇禮貌 " 既學生做例子 ,
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話說當年, 一個哈佛大學一年級新生, 去上電腦課, 上左唔夠半個鐘, 佢就企起身, 响所有學生面前, 同個電腦教授講 - 你頭先講D野, 全部都錯哂, 應該係咁至岩......。
個教授覺得呢個學生太自大, " 冇禮貌 "。
果個學生過左幾個月, 就退左學, 創立左自己既電腦公司。
呢個 "冇禮貌" 既學生叫做 - Bill Gates; 佢開間公司叫 - Microsoft。
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作者: iwff 時間: 07-9-15 23:56
優才家長不用太激動,相信那位家長所見的學生只是個別事件及未清楚了解成件事情。
我大姑奶個仔係優才讀緊5年班 , 坦白講我不覺得他是很優越 , 但真的是一位很有禮貌及聽話的小朋友, 很聽父母的說話 , 我一直都覺得他很乖的, 所以我都有報優才,雖然最後是後備,但我仍然相信優才是一間作育英材的小學。
iwff
作者: codychan 時間: 07-9-16 00:17
iwff
恕我多咀，你仔仔英文咁ok都後備呀
作者: iwff 時間: 07-9-16 00:37
codychan,
每間學校收生標準不一的, 冇所謂啦！仲有其他選擇的。都祝你小朋友成功。
iwff
原文章由 codychan 於 07-9-16 00:17 硐表
iwff
恕我多咀，你仔仔英文咁ok都後備呀
作者: Didier 時間: 07-9-16 10:21
Indeed, GT is a good school in terms of small class.
However, the problem is that they mix ordinary kids with gift talent kids in sames classes.
As a result,
1) they don't learn with the same pace in a class
2) some talented kids are very very "ACTIVE"
3) teachers have no choice but need to spend more time
and pay special attention on those talented kids.
Sources: 4 freinds and 1 colleague, their kids currently
attend GT primary school.
Thank you.
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-16 10:55
多謝 iwff 的資料。
可能有些家長認為優才家長一遇見BK有負面消息，便好似十分不理性地反激。但請各位試想，因這些消息多是出於一些不是優才家長之口，事件的因果又不清楚說明，又多遇著是優才收小一生的時候，對於現優才家長如果根本不曾遇過或發現這類情况，很難忍住不開聲平反，等如有人批評各下家人，你又發現這不是事實，你又可會忍住不開聲平反嗎？
優才的好壞，我想優才的家長比任何人都關心；小問題，相信很多學校都會有，但大問題如學生品行與德育，有那一位家長不關注呢？學校又不是家長的米飯班主，何需盲目地讚揚學校？如果學校有嚴重問題又不跟進的說話，真會有家長可容忍讓自己的子女繼績學業嗎？
所以我也請樓主詳加說明情况，如誤會，可解釋，如事態嚴重，可向校方反應跟進。
AFSL
原文章由 iwff 於 07-9-15 23:56 硐表
優才家長不用太激動,相信那位家長所見的學生只是個別事件及未清楚了解成件事情。
我大姑奶個仔係優才讀緊5年班 , 坦白講我不覺得他是很優越 , 但真的是一位很有禮貌及聽話的小朋友, 很聽父母的說話 , 我一直都覺得 ...
[ 本文章最後由 AFSL2007 於 07-9-16 22:25 編輯 ]
作者: 中天英 時間: 07-9-16 22:28 標題: CINDY媽
原文章由 CINDY媽 於 07-9-15 09:23 硐表
今日約左去in播道,優才好係好理想,但d小朋友好無禮貌,
播道 校長好似好有heart,及注重小朋友的德育,所以我會選它.
各位優才家長,
岩岩見到呢位家長响BK其他tropic發表既寶貴意見, 值得一看。
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=1084702&extra=page%3D1
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-16 22:37
Hi Didier,
Is the situation described in GT not happened in other schools? So far I understand that the government schools and subsidised schools also need to admit some children required special attention. If not, please correct me.
Though it is a difficult task for the schools to take care of this sitiation, GT should have more advantages as they have ten years' experience to deal with gift talent kids with general students.
AFSL
原文章由 Didier 於 07-9-16 10:21 硐表
Indeed, GT is a good school in terms of small class.
However, the problem is that they mix ordinary kids with gift talent kids in sames classes.
As a result,
1) they don't learn with the same pace ...
作者: 芷鍛 時間: 07-9-16 23:16
原文章由 iwff 於 07-9-15 23:56 硐表
優才家長不用太激動,相信那位家長所見的學生只是個別事件及未清楚了解成件事情。
我大姑奶個仔係優才讀緊5年班 , 坦白講我不覺得他是很優越 , 但真的是一位很有禮貌及聽話的小朋友, 很聽父母的說話 , 我一直都覺得 ...
本人並不認為真誠的回應/澄清=激動:cry: .
既然有人知道多一點為何不能發表他們所知的呢?
難道明知被人誤解也不能發言澄清嗎?
只要有根有據,我也很想知多一點點啊!!!
Cindy 媽:
其實我都好想知你點解咁講,
是否遇到一些特別經歷,
可否一起分享下!
[ 本文章最後由 芷鍛 於 07-9-16 23:27 編輯 ]
作者: beesbees 時間: 07-9-17 00:30
原文章由 Didier 於 07-9-16 10:21 硐表
1) they don't learn with the same pace in a class
2) some talented kids are very very "ACTIVE"
1)
根據學校資優教育主任的資料,優才每班大約有幾個gifted(IQ130+). 但資優生又不一定是科科都叻, 有些數學成績特別好; 又有些科科成績名列前茅的'績優生'未必是資優兒. 換句話說, 每一班的同學各有不同的學習步伐, 當然資優同時績優的就肯定快人一步.
以上的情形不是優才獨有的, 各式學校都有資優生, 不過優才和部份願意投放資源的學校一樣, 能夠在教學和身心成長方面支援資優學生甚至家長的需要. 其實優才積極推動資優教育, 但從來不以資優生數目作宣傳, 也不是逢資優必收的.
2)
very very "ACTIVE" 不是資優的必然'贈品', 也有腦袋ACTIVE的文靜小乖乖.
換個角度來看這大問題, 又似乎冇問題.
作者: 軍魁星 時間: 07-9-17 00:52
原文章由 beesbees 於 07-9-17 00:30 硐表
1)
根據學校資優教育主任的資料,優才每班大約有幾個gifted(IQ130+). 但資優生又不一定是科科都叻, 有些數學成績特別好; 又有些科科成績名列前茅的'績優生'未必是資優兒. 換句話說, 每一班的同學各有不同的學習步伐 ...
Actually, my son is not active. He is very quiet in the class, and he has quite a number of friends that are also very quiet. My son is not gifted (we just send him to a test to find out, his IQ is around 125), but he is happy in school, studys are acceptable. We never expect him to be the number one in the class, so we are satisfied.
作者: 中天英 時間: 07-9-17 01:01
原文章由 軍魁星 於 07-9-17 00:52 硐表
Actually, my son is not active. He is very quiet in the class, and he has quite a number of friends that are also very quiet. My son is not gifted (we just send him to a test to find out, his IQ i ...
My big boy is super-quiet in class !!!
作者: dabbycheung 時間: 07-9-17 08:39
原文章由 中天英 於 07-9-17 01:01 硐表
My big boy is super-quiet in class !!!
我個仔都係超文靜果種學生，佢自從入左嚟優才，呢兩年都有攞品行獎，(不過小學時佢都有攞)。
作者: CINDY媽 時間: 07-9-20 22:37
原文章由 中天英 於 07-9-16 22:28 硐表
各位優才家長,
岩岩見到呢位家長响BK其他tropic發表既寶貴意見, 值得一看。
http://forum.baby-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=1084702&extra=page%3D1
各位真係好對唔住,其實只屬我個人意見,並沒有想過對大家做成影响,無錯我係主觀去看件事姐,其實係我同老公去優才的簡介會,我在會堂,我老公帶同囡囡到校外參觀,之後我同老公商量時,我老公說頭先見到d小朋友又爭玩具,對別說話又不太禮貌,好似麻麻地,不過我都很欣賞佢的教學方針,着重啓發,透過多元智能各範疇為啓發小朋友的發展,我也是因為這點想認識這所學校,這當然是我主觀的看整件事,這也是我個人的意見,當然部份小朋友不能代表所有.為大家帶來不便很不好意思.
而我對學卷的評論,可能較為邀進,我覺得這裏是一個給大家表達言論的地方,而這亦是事實,政府的教育政策不完善,單單學卷是否真的能幫到幼稚園提高水平呢!我自己知道不是,好像有的私校因學卷而收更多學生,有些資助的幼稚園也因學卷影響到經營有問題,因為學卷有部份資助,所以政府也減少了部份之前的資助,而令學校要找方法填補...
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-20 22:55
CINDY媽，
言重了！BK是一個公開平台，言論是自由的，任何人也可有自己的看法。因之前你沒有詳述因由，只見結論，作為優才的家長，對於學校的一切事情，比任何人更關心，所以很希望你提供更多資料，讓我們作進一步了解。
希望你看到更多優才家長的實例，也讓你對優才加深認識。
AFSL
原文章由 CINDY媽 於 07-9-20 22:37 硐表
各位真係好對唔住,其實只屬我個人意見,並沒有想過對大家做成影响,無錯我係主觀去看件事姐,其實係我同老公去優才的簡介會,我在會堂,我老公帶同囡囡到校外參觀,之後我同老公商量時,我老公說頭先見到d小朋友又爭玩具, ...
作者: 大眼仔mama 時間: 07-9-20 23:22
囝囝兩個表哥都在優才小學畢業, 這些年來無論是他們或是他們的同學都是很有禮貌和品行很好的孩子, 亦因為是小班制和活動教學, 加上學校很注意親子活動, 所以學生的友情深厚, 家長間也成為好友, 像個大家庭. 現在其中一個表哥在優才中學就讀中三, 他不但沒有染上青春期的反叛, 而且越大越懂事, 十分孝順有禮貌和有愛心, 他兩兄弟是我所認識的孩子中最有禮貌的. 雖然他們學業成績只是平平, 但我認為他們善良的心和良好品行, 比讀書天才還難能可貴. 讀書只是人生一個過程, 內在品格會影響人的一生.
作者: 中天英 時間: 07-9-21 01:15
原文章由 CINDY媽 於 07-9-20 22:37 硐表
各位真係好對唔住,其實只屬我個人意見,並沒有想過對大家做成影响,無錯我係主觀去看件事姐,其實係我同老公去優才的簡介會,我在會堂,我老公帶同囡囡到校外參觀,之後我同老公商量時,我老公說頭先見到d小朋友又爭玩具, ...
CINDY媽,
呢度係言論自由既地方, 妳有冇野想講, 就講啦, 冇人會制止妳既ｏ
不過既然係講到我地自己仔女既學校, 而且講既野又同我地所見倒既唔同, 好自然我地會講出我地既睇法, 咁係好平常既事, 妳唔好介意。
我個人相信只有通過討論, 甚至爭辯(當然要基于事實), 先至可以將事情攪清楚, 水落石出, 唔知妳同唔同意？
不過妳淨係响簡介會見到幾個小朋友冇禮貌、爭野玩, 就下結論話優才D學生好冇禮貌, 會唔會太快下结論呢？
況且, 果幾個好大可能唔係優才學生。
[ 本文章最後由 中天英 於 07-9-21 01:40 編輯 ]
作者: dabbycheung 時間: 07-9-21 08:49
優才最注重學生既係：
1) 品德
2) 愉快學習
3) 成績
作者: edea 時間: 07-9-21 09:21
大眼仔媽媽:
希望我囡囡長大後都有妳仔仔既表哥咁乖我都好滿足了。昨晚和朋友吃飯, 她歎息說她哥哥的兒子, 在小一面試後, 一邊步出學校一邊嗤之以鼻說: 「問埋d問題咁白痴,佢收我我都唔讀呀!」出自K2生口中哪...我寧可女兒單純些, 不用太叻都可以了。 不要這種「叻」。
作者: 小兒兒 時間: 07-9-21 09:40
原文章由 edea 於 07-9-21 09:21 硐表
大眼仔媽媽:
希望我囡囡長大後都有妳仔仔既表哥咁乖我都好滿足了。昨晚和朋友吃飯, 她歎息說她哥哥的兒子, 在小一面試後, 一邊步出學校一邊嗤之以鼻說: 「問埋d問題咁白痴,佢收我我都唔讀呀!」出自K2生口中哪...我 ...
我路過咋, 但只想講每間學校都唔能夠sure自己學生100%是好學生. 10隻手指都有長短, 只可以看看長短比例而評估, 正如小朋友interview只見那短短10分鐘, 又怎能全面判斷其個性呢!? 大家都係估下估下.
作者: gitmee 時間: 07-9-21 10:40
原文章由 中天英 於 07-9-21 01:15 硐表
CINDY媽,
呢度係言論自由既地方, 妳有冇野想講, 就講啦, 冇人會制止妳既ｏ
不過既然係講到我地自己仔女既學校, 而且講既野又同我地所見倒既唔同, 好自然我地會講出我地既睇法, 咁係好平常既事, 妳唔好介意。
我個人相信只有通過討論, 甚至爭辯(當然要基于事實), 先至可以將事情攪清楚, 水落石出, 唔知妳同唔同意？
不過妳淨係响簡介會見到幾個小朋友冇禮貌、爭野玩, 就下結論話優才D學生好冇禮貌, 會唔會太快下结論呢？
況且, 果幾個好大可能唔係優才學生。
路過補充一句，優才簡介會在星期六下午舉行，那段時間很少會有學生在校內出現，所以CINDY媽的先生見到的小朋友很可能是參加簡介會家長的孩子。如果那些小朋友身穿優才校服，那我們得向校方反映，讓他們多加留意啊！
作者: airay 時間: 07-9-21 13:28
怎么近來沒有真道的評論呢？
作者: pinkyqqq 時間: 07-9-23 22:51
每間學校都有好的學生和唔好的學生啦
作者: chunhei 時間: 07-9-24 00:58
I think the case happened in P3 last year. I understand one of the classes got large number of hyperative students. Inexperience teacher would have problem to manage such case that caused major damage last year.
Hyperactive is not necessary gifted kid. It was mistake to put all such students in one class. I understand the school spend quite a lot of effort to correct it.
In the first two years, I found the school have more tolerance to the students. They would encourage them to be more participate the class activity such as small team discussion. Some of students are trained to be more agressive. That is what we expected for that school. The kid should be trained for active learning rather than one way learning. They should be trained to challenge the norm when they are young. In P3 or above, the school has much tigher measurement for discipline. It would be tough time for those students.
For good or bad student, it is suggestive. It depends on how you draw the line. That is no absolute right or wrong answer.
Also, I understand 播道 would not offer seat for such active student. They would pick more quiet student in my oberservation from my kid's kindergarten
classmates in that school. ( It may be wrong. )
原文章由 Didier 於 07-9-16 10:21 硐表
Indeed, GT is a good school in terms of small class.
However, the problem is that they mix ordinary kids with gift talent kids in sames classes.
As a result,
1) they don't learn with the same pace ...
作者: chunhei 時間: 07-9-24 01:11
原文章由 dabbycheung 於 07-9-21 08:49 硐表
優才最注重學生既係：
1) 品德
2) 愉快學習
3) 成績
I think it would be challenge to balance between 2) 愉快學習 and 3) 成績. In my mind, if the school is looking for the result. It would be difficult to keep happy learning. It would be very difficult to implement it in the real world.
作者: 中天英 時間: 07-9-24 02:13
原文章由 chunhei 於 07-9-24 01:11 硐表
I think it would be challenge to balance between 2) 愉快學習 and 3) 成績. In my mind, if the school is looking for the result. It would be difficult to keep happy learning. It would be very difficu ...
冇錯, 愉快學習同成績, 的確係好難共存既。
優才創校之初, 目標很明確, 喜悦同卓越 ( Joy & Excellence )共存ｏ 响呢兩個目標里, 係以喜悦行先既; 即係話, 要先有喜悦, 讓學生開開心心返學, 然後再追求卓越, 拎倒好成績、
10年之後, 而家情況係點？
1) 喜悦 - 肯定超標完成, 大部份學生都好鐘意返學, 同老師关係又好, 仲好主動去學習 - 有好多學生同家長可以做証明。
2) 卓越 - 優才而家開到F3, 仲未有學生完成優才既中學課程, 冇公開試成績, 比較難知道學生績係點。
但係有幾個例子, 令我相信優才學生, 成績會好,
- 有F2學生, 去考IGCSE, 中五程度生物試, 考倒Ａ
- 50幾個F2學生, 去考IGCSE, 中五程度英文試, 大部份考倒C级或以上
呢班F2學生, 仲有3年先正式考會考, 相信會考倒好好成績。
當然, 優才仲係好年輕既學校, 仲需要多D時閻, 先至眞正睇倒, 辨學目標 - 喜悦 + 卓越 - 可唔可以實現。
但係我就好有信心可以做倒。
[ 本文章最後由 中天英 於 07-9-24 02:21 編輯 ]
作者: 中天英 時間: 07-9-24 02:17
原文章由 chunhei 於 07-9-24 00:58 硐表
I think the case happened in P3 last year. I understand one of the classes got large number of hyperative students. Inexperience teacher would have problem to manage such case that caused major dama ...
chunhei,
You seems to know a lot about GTS. Do myou have kid attending the school?
作者: chunhei 時間: 07-9-24 21:33
原文章由 中天英 於 07-9-24 02:17 硐表
chunhei,
You seems to know a lot about GTS. Do myou have kid attending the school?
My son studys P4 in the school. The new term just started again.
[ 本文章最後由 chunhei 於 07-9-24 22:06 編輯 ]
作者: chunhei 時間: 07-9-24 22:27
原文章由 中天英 於 07-9-24 02:13 硐表
冇錯, 愉快學習同成績, 的確係好難共存既。
優才創校之初, 目標很明確, 喜悦同卓越 ( Joy & Excellence )共存ｏ 响呢兩個目標里, 係以喜悦行先既; 即係話, 要先有喜悦, 讓學生開開心心返學, 然後再追求卓越, 拎倒好 ...
I agreed with you completely. The school focus on happy learning in the first few years in junior class. Most students love to go to school. That is true and I confirmed.
For F2 students attending IGCSE exam, that I am not quite sure I can agree the approach. Anyway, it may be business decision. The school has no public exam record, it is hard to judge the school standard from public. That is challenge to attract good quality student. Therefore, they sent the highest class students to attend the public exam to demonstrate the achievement.
I do not challenge the achievement of the students. It is fact that are many talents in the school. How do get talents to get good public exam are different story. But I just don't feel comfortable for junior secondary students to attend the public exam. It sounds too much. F2 should be fun year to let the kid enjoy school life rather than spending time on public exam studying. It is long way to go for the kid. F2 to real public exam are another 4 to 5 years. It will be tough.
As GT primary school parent, we do feel the pressure.
[ 本文章最後由 chunhei 於 07-9-24 22:34 編輯 ]
作者: Alanhoky 時間: 07-9-25 10:00
Hi Chunhei
Thanks. It's much pleasure having a senior class's GT parent here to share with us.
You have got the 'facts', you have got the 'feelings'. Your sharing is most 'precious', in the sense that you have no 'inclination' or 'bias'. My daughter will go to GT 2008. I'm happy that one more experienced parent assures us the 'happy learing' approach, which I treasure most.
Your comments on their IGCSE attempts can also shed lights on our future discuss/observance, though my attitude is somewhat different from you; but my feeling is the same that the school cannot 'pressurize' we 'parents' or our 'kids'. That's the reason I have no 'thinking' of attempting some traditional famous/well known schools.
Anyway, we support the school, we love our children; continuous support to the school can provide our kids a healthy envornoment for their development. However, we have also to 'watch' if the school is deviating from its 'basic philosophy'. Any 'deviation' may not result possible 'impacts', which really depends on their treatment, and the reaction of our kids.
Let's contiune working througn to support the school and our kids. Once again, thanks for your sharing. It once again prove that the quality of 'GT parents' is superior!!!!
原文章由 chunhei 於 07-9-24 22:27 硐表
I agreed with you completely. The school focus on happy learning in the first few years in junior class. Most students love to go to school. That is true and I confirmed.
For F2 students attendin ...
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-25 15:11
Sorry if I overreact your message as it made me feel uncomfortable when I saw "GT's parents are superior".
I agree that GT's parents are very helpful and nice. They love their children and support the school. But, how can this be compared and said that GT's parents are superior? Every parent like the school selected by themselves and this is the reason that they send their beloved children into that school. Many parents, not only GT's parents, have spent a lot effort to bring up their children, including selecting the most suitable school for them. Though I value GT to be a good school and is good to my son (so my son is G1 of GT this year), I also believe that it may not be suitable or good to some children due to their characters and talents. There are still a lot of good schools.
Sorry again if I misinterpret the meaning of your message.
AFSL
原文章由 Alanhoky 於 07-9-25 10:00 硐表
Hi Chunhei
Thanks. It's much pleasure having a senior class's GT parent here to share with us.
You have got the 'facts', you have got the 'feelings'. Your sharing is most 'precious', in the sens ...
[ 本文章最後由 AFSL2007 於 07-9-25 19:24 編輯 ]
作者: Alanhoky 時間: 07-9-25 17:38
Yes, you have taken my 'words' in a wrong approach. GT parents are superior, while other school's parent are also superior or even more superior
This is the same that we always take our kids as 'gifted'
Anyway, the discussion in only among ourselves, thus take it easy.
原文章由 AFSL2007 於 07-9-25 15:11 硐表
Sorry if I overreact your message as it made me feel uncomforatble when I saw "GT's parents are superior".
I agree that GT's parents are very helpful and nice. They love their children and support t ...
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-25 19:22
Thanks for your clarification. I may be too nervous and had overreacted as there is a little bit too much noise for GT's parents during these recent days.
AFSL
原文章由 Alanhoky 於 07-9-25 17:38 硐表
Yes, you have taken my 'words' in a wrong approach. GT parents are superior, while other school's parent are also superior or even more superior
This is the same that we always take our kids ...
作者: chunhei 時間: 07-9-26 14:55
原文章由 AFSL2007 於 07-9-25 19:22 硐表
Thanks for your clarification. I may be too nervous and had overreacted as there is a little bit too much noise for GT's parents during these recent days.
AFSL
I didn't aware so many negative feedback here about GT's parent. But I would like to let you know that it would be more pressure you would feel when you kids growth up in the school.
In term of school work, it would be much less than traditional school and the kid would have more freedom when they are in junior class. The teachers are nice. That is reason I think the kids feel happy.
But it will become more tough in senior class. The school would be more concern discipine when the kids growth up. You kid need to adjust the new culture.
Since last year, the school indicated the average mark with the school result. Personally, I agree this approach that you know your kid's position. You get 90 doesn't mean it is good. Unfortuntely, it will give pressure to parent to make the their kids up to speed if they below the standard obviously. The standard is quite high. I understand number of my son's classmate have 補習 . They just don't want to behind too much. The life is never easy.
[ 本文章最後由 chunhei 於 07-9-26 15:04 編輯 ]
作者: phchan 時間: 07-9-26 18:19
Hi Chunhei,
多謝你的分享，讓我們了解多些，而你所指的情況與壓力，是否毎一間學校都會有，分別只是出現在一開始(小一)，還是高年級才開始出現。雖然說學習不是求分數，但最終都是看分數，即使愉快學習，也要有要求。
原文章由 chunhei 於 07-9-26 14:55 硐表
I didn't aware so many negative feedback here about GT's parent. But I would like to let you know that it would be more pressure you would feel when you kids growth up in the school.
In term of sc ...
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-26 21:01
Chunhei,
Thanks for your sharing.
The negative feedback on GT's parents are arisen recently. I could only say that different people have different view.
The class teacher has reminded us that discipline is very important and it should be focused when the students are at G1. I hope GT can still maintain a balance between Discipline and Happy learning. To me, Happy learning without any achievement could not be valued as good education. Same as discipline, balancing is essential. Though difficult, really hope GT can achieve it.
原文章由 chunhei 於 07-9-26 14:55 硐表
I didn't aware so many negative feedback here about GT's parent. But I would like to let you know that it would be more pressure you would feel when you kids growth up in the school.
In term of sc ...
作者: chunhei 時間: 07-9-27 00:48
原文章由 phchan 於 07-9-26 18:19 硐表
Hi Chunhei,
多謝你的分享，讓我們了解多些，而你所指的情況與壓力，是否毎一間學校都會有，分別只是出現在一開始(小一)，還是高年級才開始出現。雖然說學習不是求分數，但最終都是看分數，即使愉快學習，也要有要求。
...
You probably right. It should not be particular for this school. Honest speaking, I would say the pressure would be much less than other tranditional school. At least, the homework volume is still much less than other from my obervation. Also, the school never asked for 補習 . The english teacher said my son's result is good but I found it still below average. She just said it is too many bright students in the school. She just keep saying dont worry. But I never able to do it.
When I got a chance talking to my son's classmate, I do find quite a lot of them have 補習 among different subjects.
I don't belieive 補習 was necessary before when I joined this school but it seems I need to adjust a little bit. Also, since P3 and P4 now, all english subjects are taught by native english teacher. Obviosuly, the only language would be english and no translator would be provided. In first few months, it would be tough for my kid to catch up. At home, now only english channels would be allow in order to make sure my son get up to speed.
As parent, I just dont want my son behind the average benchmark a lot. I should not blame the school. It is nothing wrong from the school. They never make any noise about the result. Also, the issue may happen in G4 level. I have no idea for other levels.
[ 本文章最後由 chunhei 於 07-9-27 01:23 編輯 ]
作者: chunhei 時間: 07-9-27 01:09
原文章由 AFSL2007 於 07-9-26 21:01 硐表
Chunhei,
Thanks for your sharing.
The negative feedback on GT's parents are arisen recently. I could only say that different people have different view.
The class teacher has reminded us that disc ...
I think the school strategy was shifted a little bit since 2 years ago. I remember when my son was in P1 (around 3 years ago) . The school not spent enough effort to address discipline issue. I heard other P1 class's parent complaint their class got big trouble. The teacher spent too much time and effort just to control the class situation rather than teaching. In my son's class, I saw 3 to 4 people get injured (leg, arm broken). All were accidents as far as I know. Teacher said the number of students get hurt in one class have broken the whole school record. I think the school aware the issue with a lot of parents complaint. Since 2 years ago, the school put much more effort on discipline control. I would say that is good move. Obviously, it is much more improve now.
[ 本文章最後由 chunhei 於 07-9-27 01:21 編輯 ]
作者: Alanhoky 時間: 07-9-27 11:45
你咁易比人干擾 搞到吾敢發言? 其實自已覺得OK 就吾駛理人地 況且人地都係在第二版作佢地D小圈子評論 我地係度自吹自擂
河水不犯井水
各取所需
咪几好?
我擇善固執 但都會開放地考慮人家D意見
其實作文字討論 因為分不清言論是'感覺' 還是'見解' 便很容易有誤會 好像今次事件 人家隨便說說'感覺' 我們便說不公平 要人家LOR証据
擺事實 這裡不是法庭 這樣做人家看起來似撩交嗌
好似老婆問我 : 老公!我懷疑(感覺)你有外遇!
我如果大義凜然咁答:
老婆
你呢個係一個嚴重指控
要有真憑實据
如果吾係GUM對我好吾公平!
咁老婆肯定更加懷疑
同我離婚都似!
我會咁答:
老婆你點解會有咁GE諗法?
係咪我平時有乜做得吾好
令你有咁GE想法?
咁咪會有一個和諧GE討論平台囉!
講番呢個topic
我揀學校係睇佢地綜合力量GE表現
(各人又會有各人GE focus)
仲要睇下佢地D教育理念我可吾可以配合
我諗左五年
覺得優才綜合力量表現最好
(其實硬件係佢輸晒
但我吾係買樓
個泳池同個club house吾係我GE focus)
最重要係覺得自已可配合到佢GE教育理念
(我根本吾明播道同真道D教育理念
好似太偉大啦
我覺得我做吾到)
故此我揀優才!
憑感覺GA咋!
無經過科學GE驗詛架!
吾好問我要証据!
其實當日你要同你老公結婚
都有姨媽姑姐用D科學方法同你分析話邊樣邊樣吾好
係你自己要對住佢成世
所以最重要都係你自己GE感覺
揀學校都一樣
我要同佢糾纏十二年
都係信自己感覺好D
揀定左就比出信心同諒解
未來十二年好好地為子女付出為人父母最大GE愛心同力量
努力呀
有排你捱呀
Pure sharing, no offence!!
原文章由 AFSL2007 於 07-9-25 19:22 硐表
Thanks for your clarification. I may be too nervous and had overreacted as there is a little bit too much noise for GT's parents during these recent days.
AFSL
作者: AFSL2007 時間: 07-9-27 16:13
Thanks for your comment and sharing. If they have already scared me, I would not write any message anymore. In this open forum, I would bear in mind that respect is also important. Therefore, I would be more careful about my wording to avoid any misunderstanding (or sometimes it becomes "long air").
原文章由 Alanhoky 於 07-9-27 11:45 硐表
你咁易比人干擾 搞到吾敢發言? 其實自已覺得OK 就吾駛理人地 況且人地都係在第二版作佢地D小圈子評論 我地係度自吹自擂
河水不犯井水
各取所需
咪几好?
我擇善固執 但都會開放地考慮人家D意見
其實作文 ...
[ 本文章最後由 AFSL2007 於 07-9-27 16:50 編輯 ]
作者: dabbycheung 時間: 07-9-28 21:09
原文章由 AnnieMack 於 07-9-28 20:39 硐表
話明公開討論平台嘛! 佢地都無做錯, 由頭到尾公平又平靜咁討論, 又無唔尊重人, 好似係有隻狗係度 bark, 有乜唔清楚要攞証據, 有乜唔啱先?
係咪你老婆嫁你時, d三姑六婆俾氣你受呀!
定係你老婆最近同你離婚, 咁你 ...
AnnieMack,
本來我唔打算再回應呢個topic, 但見到你既留言，忍唔住要向你講一聲“多謝！”
另外，我相信Alanhoky絕對係一個好人，希望你唔好誤會佢喇！
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