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作者: NXT 時間: 07-8-18 23:59 標題: 資優兒童跳班

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作者: leopa 時間: 07-9-2 22:57

Hi NXT,
也想知道您的子女是否也是今年跳班? 因小兒今年從小一跳到小三, 我們也沒經驗, 但後面大家可以分享經歷, 或許互有幫助的.
我兒子的個案是: 他今年是7歲半, 小一的時候, 差不多沒有上課一樣, 上課時不會拿課本到桌上, 喜歡睡在桌面上或地上, 讀默書時到最後時才拿默書薄出來背默. 便給老師認為是壞份子.
但我們問他為何不聽課的時候, 他則表示課本太沉悶, 他是有聽課的, 但都已明白了.
後來通知校方小兒是資優後, 校方才體諒一點, 但卻表示沒什麼可以幫到這類資優學童, 但之前也發生了許多其他事情, 所以便決定轉校.
後來見新學校的校長時, 將我兒的個案如實告知, 也包括他在學校不合作的事情; 原先我倆沒想要兒子跳班的, 但考了插班試後, (我倆也不知是什麼考題, 只知也是中英數) 校長便建議跳一級, 讓他有多些挑戰, 不會覺得課堂太悶.
明天開始小三了, 我們也是很擔心, 不知道他是否能適應. 在暑假能做的, 只是給小二的習作給他試做, 還好是他不用怎麼教已能應付, 所以也比較安心一點, 他好像也有信心能應付跳班的挑戰.
希望你也能告知你的小孩的情況, 讓我們可分享大家的經驗.
TKS!

作者: 中天英 時間: 07-9-3 01:04

原文章由 NXT 於 07-8-18 23:59 硐表
有沒有資優兒童有跳班的經驗,可否分享來聽吓?
如果有,是校方主動提出多,還是家長主動提出多?
在原校跳班呢,還是轉校跳班呢?
如有過來人,分享一吓吧! ...

以我所知, 教统局係冇跳班既指引, 但係又容許學校咁做。

眞係好睇個別學校, 特別係校長既安排, 冇一定模式既。

呢幾年多D學校注視資優生跳班既問題, 靈活性多左好多。

你既小朋友幾大？你係咪覺得佢需要跳班？學校能否配合？

作者: mommei 時間: 07-9-8 08:25

hi leopa

would you please pm me the name of the new school. Thanks.

作者: leopa 時間: 07-9-8 21:28

Hi mommei,
alrdy pm to u.

原文章由 mommei 於 07-9-8 08:25 硐表
hi leopa

would you please pm me the name of the new school. Thanks.

作者: NXT 時間: 07-9-8 23:28

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作者: eileenycm 時間: 07-9-9 23:29

NXT

Why you choice Ying Wah?

原文章由 NXT 於 07-9-8 23:28 硐表

我的兒子還沒有跳班,今年讀小二。上數學課和其他科都覺得悶。但學校的程度已經算深,英文-小一讀小二課本,數學讀快半級,國語便正常用小一課本,但用普通話教;常識則用英文教。對於一般學生來說,該小學程度算深,但小 ...

作者: NXT 時間: 07-9-10 21:48

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作者: leopa 時間: 07-9-10 22:44

Hi Nxt,

其實如中天英所說, 教统局係冇跳班既指引, 但係又容許學校咁做, 如果一般的小朋友沒有特別的情況出現, 是很難讓學校作出跳班的決定的, 就是一般的資優兒童, 也不一定有跳班的需要, 如他們能融入小朋友的圈子裡, 給他們享受學園生活多一兩年, 是好事情的.

所以要提出跳班, 除了小朋友真的有能力應付高一年的課程外, 還需要有其他理據的, 如按正常的升班, 可能對小朋友的心理或其他方面, 有可能有負面的影響, 當然這是經過多方面的考量的.

而很多資優或較聰明的小朋友, 都會覺得某些課堂沉悶的, 如你的小朋友在班上的社交生活沒問題, 給他留在原班也是好的, 因交友對小朋友的心態是十分重要的.

我兒其實是很不幸, 沒辦法融入去年小一的小朋友圈子裡, 才是我倆讓他跳班的主因, 因童年生活是珍貴的, 不應隨便減少這幸福生活, 幸好是看到現在他與班中的同學相處也不錯.

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我的兒子還沒有跳班,今年讀小二。上數學課和其他科都覺得悶。但學校的程度已經算深,英文-小一讀小二課本,數學讀快半級,國語便正常用小一課本,但用普通話教;常識則用英文教。對於一般學生來說,該小學程度算深,但小兒卻應付得很輕鬆。在常識和數學科方面尤其覺得沉悶。

我們沒有向校方提出跳班要求,但想跳班轉往英華小學,因為英華不用交學費和英華的課程沒有讀深一級,可惜連電話回覆都無個。現在繼續在該小學讀小二,如小兒再表達上課沉悶,那便會再考慮是否應該向校方提出跳班的申請。

作者: SCJ-family 時間: 07-9-11 14:19

hi leopa

Please pm me the name of the new school. Thanks.

原文章由 leopa 於 07-9-2 22:57 硐表
Hi NXT,
也想知道您的子女是否也是今年跳班? 因小兒今年從小一跳到小三, 我們也沒經驗, 但後面大家可以分享經歷, 或許互有幫助的.
我兒子的個案是: 他今年是7歲半, 小一的時候, 差不多沒有上課一樣, 上課時不會拿課 ...

作者: NichoB 時間: 07-9-18 12:29 標題: Jump level at home, Make friends at school

Actually, all kids are engjoy schoolife more than learning.
They can read all the tast books at home before and answer the questions or do some classworks for practice.

I think they enjoy to play with his classmates, exchagne great ideas with their classmates, running, growing in school.    Happy School life is the most important than comparasion with each other.  They can share their experience, knowledges and learn from their friends.

At home, we can approach them to read difference kinds of reference books and explore their knowledges ( Not only learn in class)

Extra activities can help all kids to more and build up their confident.

No Confident is so poor.  Always think of the exam & test... so poor.

Study = Play (Balance the school life and family life)
To spend 30mins for studying and spend 30 mins for playing.

Do execise = Play games (Have fun and enjoyable)

Jump a lot!  Lost a lot!

原文章由 SCJ-family 於 07-9-11 14:19 硐表
hi leopa

Please pm me the name of the new school. Thanks.

作者: 叮鈴 時間: 07-9-18 16:39

原文章由 NichoB 於 07-9-18 12:29 硐表
Actually, all kids are engjoy schoolife more than learning.
They can read all the tast books at home before and answer the questions or do some classworks for practice.

I think they enjoy to play wit ...

雖然我並不贊成不適當的跳班。
但眼見一些沒有跳班的資優生又沒有如你所說的快樂和享受。
有些跟同齡同伴根本亦相處不來，亦不享受玩同齡的玩意，覺得很孤單。
我的天才噩夢一書，訪問了很多資優成人，很多都形容以前的學校生活就如惡夢一樣。

每個資優生都不一樣，並不是每個資優生都適合跳班，要看個別性格、能力和需要吧？

我知道有個資優兒選擇不跳班，並不是因為想享受與同齡相處和玩樂的快樂(根本不快樂，亦沒有同伴可以讓他覺得能與他好好玩樂)，而是可以拖長一點時間在小學階段，唔想咁快要做一堆高年級必須的作業、應付高年級的考試，可以在放學後多一點時間留在家中玩樂罷了(因為課程簡單，回家就不用溫習做功課，全部是他的自由時間)。
但係學校，依然讓他感到痛苦(如他所形容):cry:

作者: t421316 時間: 07-10-25 17:30

Agree. Other than knowledge exposure, kids' 性格、能力和需要 are crucial factors for 跳班 or not.

I once encountered a kid was admitted to P1 at K2. But the parents decided not to 跳班 because the kid was not socially ready. But when the kid is ready, the parents'd consider this option again.

If home education is good, like NichoB's and the Baptist U talent boy's (in past few years) cases, 跳班 or not doesn't mean a lot (until the home education cannot support the kid's development any longer, like the BU talent currently). I've encountered another gifted decided not to 跳班 because he wants to maintain the social life with similar age peers.

I once read from a book a 9-year-old university student hasn't attended formal schooling, spent his social life in church with similar age peers, and "school" life at home (taught by parents).

Your "天才噩夢一書，訪問了很多資優成人，很多都形容以前的學校生活就如惡夢一樣" "跟同齡同伴根本亦相處不來，亦不享受玩同齡的玩意，覺得很孤單。" are other cases.

Alternatively, entering high standard school would be an option, eg SPCC, QC, Logos (skipped F1), as their standard are equivalent to 跳班, but with good peer/social support as all peers are at similar ages. This is why in some countries, there are schools tailored for the gifted.

Hence, without taking into account the individual differences in various respects, it's too early to conclude whether 跳班 is appropriate or not for a kid.

The above are just my immature personal views, which may not be correct, or applicable to others' cases.

原文章由叮鈴於 07-9-18 16:39 硐表

雖然我並不贊成不適當的跳班。
但眼見一些沒有跳班的資優生又沒有如你所說的快樂和享受。
有些跟同齡同伴根本亦相處不來，亦不享受玩同齡的玩意，覺得很孤單。
我的天才噩夢一書，訪問了很多資優成人，很多都形容以前的學 ...

[ 本文章最後由 t421316 於 07-10-25 17:35 編輯 ]

作者: paco88 時間: 08-3-9 23:38

How do you find the new school? Could you please pm me the name of the new school.

作者: GC134 時間: 08-3-10 22:02

我有同樣煩惱,做完韋氏,見議來年跳級P.1,他說上K.3浪費多1年時間,但我又怕為她選擇錯誤,令他失去學習興趣,各位可否給我一些意見? 有哪間學校會收未足齡小朋友? 如果來年才投考小學,又有哪間比較合適呢? 感激!

[ 本文章最後由 GC134 於 08-3-10 22:18 編輯 ]

作者: 叮鈴 時間: 08-3-11 23:21

阿仔只係跳數學科，跳左兩級，學校有叫過佢跳級，但係，我個仔對學校的課程完全無興趣，亦很抗拒做功課，唔關深淺事，佢就係唔鍾意。佢超級自我，唔鍾意的東西，佢耳仔係關閘的，好像與外界隔絕。

數學則唔駛佢記野，唔駛佢學佢認為枯燥的中英文語言，所以我只容許佢跳數學一科。不過跳左佢都話悶，上堂時又再做高一年級的數，繼續唔聽老師講課。佢唔搞人，老師就由佢。

個問題係，有天佢完成左六年級的課後，咁之後無得跳去中一，咁點安排。加下我都未知....

香港教育，係唔適合某類，特別係極度自我和創造力型資優生。

作者: 金瑪姬 時間: 08-3-21 18:54

small class size will help, around 20 per class.

作者: Sindy 時間: 08-3-21 23:57

原文章由 GC134 於 08-3-10 22:02 發表
我有同樣煩惱,做完韋氏,見議來年跳級P.1,他說上K.3浪費多1年時間,但我又怕為她選擇錯誤,令他失去學習興趣,各位可否給我一些意見? 有哪間學校會收未足齡小朋友? 如果來年才投考小學,又有哪間比較合適呢? 感激! ...

基本上普通學校係p.1都係教k3野,如果係大仔/女既話,普通人都有能力跳班,不過而家既制度係咁,如果只係跳一級(k3)既話,又未夠歲數,不跳也吧,有幾個叻既小朋友係學校教出黎?學校係設計比大眾的,所以見議你跳級果個我有d懷疑佢既專業,教署規定要入小學就要夠五歲八個月,除非特別例子,我諗要有超高IQ,教署班人先會開咁既先例,否則,等佢夠歲數入小一再跳小二都未遲,出左個會考神童,個個理解都有偏差了
基本上我仔一月出世,n1時都讀緊k1課程,以前n1既課程好彈性,老師可按其情況教其他級既野,佢都唔係問緊n1/k1既問題,當然老師都係答得比較深啦,佢一月大仔,早十幾日出世,都係讀高一級,所以跳一級絕對無問題,經我深思熟慮後,佢已經唔正常,比返d正常生活佢,佢始終要適應呢個社會,我細女係資優,我仲比佢讀低年添,等佢唔好咁早熟,跟大個果群,一定會早熟d,佢智商而家夠,但你可保證佢eq夠?我女初小先開始發現佢eq唔夠架....有時好多野,唔係而家呈現到出黎,第時返唔到轉頭,佢怨你架咋

作者: GC134 時間: 08-3-29 02:51

多謝回應

作者: busybusy 時間: 08-4-1 01:33

My son is also a gift.
But luckly he can cooperate at school and well performance in his school works.  I teach him by myself at home for the higher level of the maths and english.  He enjoys the feeling of that he can answer all the questions during the class.  so we do not plan to jump for higher grade.

One day, when I talked with him about the person which 9 years old can study in University, his responsed quite negative on that, he said, if 9 yrs old go to University, then he might go to Elderly home at 18yrs.  Life without playing, I don't like.'  Therefore, jump or not should depends on their willingness.

作者: bbJP 時間: 08-4-1 09:48

Hi! busybusy,

My son's case is same as yours. He's gifted and enjoys his school life very much. May I know how old your son is? How do you teach him higher level English? What's the foucs?
thx

原文章由 busybusy 於 08-4-1 01:33 發表
My son is also a gift.
But luckly he can cooperate at school and well performance in his school works. I teach him by myself at home for the higher level of the maths and english. He enjoys the fe ...

作者: Leolonglongma 時間: 08-4-1 19:37

[quote]One day, when I talked with him about the person which 9 years old can study in University, his responsed quite negative on that, he said, if 9 yrs old go to University, then he might go to Elderly home at 18yrs. Life without playing, I don't like.' [unquote]

Good point! Don't think it's negative but it's really what they worry about!

作者: Sindy 時間: 08-4-2 01:35

我個女啱啱掉轉,佢問係咪跳班就唔駛返咁耐學.......我話係啦,人地讀六年,你跳班咪讀少d囉,跟手佢即刻拎本書出黎,不過又係三分鐘熱度..

作者: busybusy 時間: 08-4-2 09:35 標題: 回覆 #21 bbJP 的文章

For english, most important is ready, he is reading 5th of the Harry Porter and enjoys it very well. No matter where he go, he always carrys a book within him. He reads a lot. My english is not that good, I only can do is accompany him to the book shop and buy the books what he want. We had a big store areas for the books at home which arouse my headche these days.

作者: 貓太 時間: 08-4-2 22:15

hi leopa

please pm me the name of the new school. Thanks.

作者: alice_yuen 時間: 08-4-4 00:16

what a funny and smart response!! He thinks ahead!!

原文章由 Leolonglongma 於 08-4-1 19:37 發表
[quote]One day, when I talked with him about the person which 9 years old can study in University, his responsed quite negative on that, he said, if 9 yrs old go to University, then he might go to Eld ...

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