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標題: 入讀國際學校/IB 可否升讀本地大學 [打印本頁]

作者: 豬爸爸    時間: 07-7-25 09:45     標題: 入讀國際學校/IB 可否升讀本地大學

如題,請指點.
作者: babyoush    時間: 07-7-25 11:47

原文章由 豬爸爸 於 07-7-25 09:45 發表
如題,請指點.


可以, 我以前大學都有朋友係讀IS升上嚟, 不過人數唔多囉:loveliness:
作者: bawt    時間: 07-7-25 13:01

可以。
每年都有國際學校學生升讀本地大學,IB 及非 IB 學生都有;不過由於中文程度問題,可能少 D 入中大 ( 入中大好似要睇埋中文,我唔肯定 )。
作者: 豬爸爸    時間: 07-7-25 15:57

Got it.  Thanks.
作者: kathiema    時間: 07-7-26 07:30

Definitely no problem, my son studied in SC, now he's in HKU.
作者: 大頭蝦    時間: 07-7-26 11:38

但係會唔會做次選呢 ?? 我仲猶疑緊, pls help
作者: mrsho    時間: 07-7-26 12:10

原文章由 kathiema 於 07-7-26 07:30 發表
Definitely no problem, my son studied in SC, now he's in HKU.


May I know what is SC?  By which way that your son entered the HKU?  Please kindly explain more, thanks.
作者: Cayenne    時間: 07-7-26 12:47

原文章由 大頭蝦 於 07-7-26 11:38 發表
但係會唔會做次選呢 ?? 我仲猶疑緊, pls help

不會, 因為排另一條龍, 叫 Non-Jupas.

我知道有 HKIS 學生被 HKU Law, Medic. 取錄, 也有 HKIS 學生被 CU 取錄但最後去了外國. 很多 家庭送子女入 IS, 根本一早已經是計劃出國, 做成本地大學少見 IS 學生.

留港的 IS 學生多數只會對專業學科有興趣, 如 Law, Medic.

很多人以為 IS 學生不能入本地大學, 是很錯的.
大前提是, 你要叻 ! (  但那裏不是如此 ? )
學業成績要校內 Top few %, 公開試 (SAT etc  ) 高分,平日亦要慣於在校內用英文 speak out 表達自己, 在面試中便已經輕易可以脫熲而出. 我知那個入 Law 的便是因為在面試有好表現 ( 未讀就已經成個 lawyer 咁 ! ) 而令人另眼相看.

當然, 那一間 IS 出身, 亦很重要. 如果該 IS以前已經有師兄師姊入去讀得好, 拎 scholarship/ gold medal 的, 大學當然對那間 IS的學生多點信心.
不要忘記, 負責取錄新生的教授們, 本身子女可能也是 IS 學生, 所以他們對各間 IS 的水準是很清楚的.
作者: 豬爸爸    時間: 07-7-27 09:36

咁non-JUPAS個條queue會收幾多%呢?
作者: nintendo    時間: 07-7-27 10:26

原文章由 豬爸爸 於 07-7-27 09:36 發表
咁non-JUPAS個條queue會收幾多%呢?


你係話,有幾多 % 學位留比 non-jupas ?咁我都有興趣知。

不過諗真 d ,其實知都冇乜特別意思,反正每年經 non-jupas 申請的人數不同,因此未必可以估計申請的機會。我曾聽過一些本地學校高中生說,non-jupas 的 % 將會增多,但都只係道聽途說,而且,到我孩子 (現讀小學) 升大學時的情形會係點,我估冇人估計到 ( 雖然我自己及我孩子現時的想法,都是以海外大學為主,不會主攻本地大學 )。

現時趨勢係,越來越多本地 DSS (直資學校) 採用 IB,或聲稱採用 IB,部份甚至係用 "自創" 的 local/IS/IB 的 "hybrid" 課程 ( 小學雜談那邊,有 DSS 家長說,EMB 現突然要求 DSS 必須部留部份學位,跟隨本地課程,不能 100% 學生用 IB;這點好像未能證實 ),而好多這類 "新派" 學校的學生,大都未必會像國際學校學生一樣,首選係外國大學,他們都會 "主攻" 本地大學。照推測, JUPAS/non-JUPAS 申請人數,有機會會大調整,如果先前說的 EMB 的新要求不屬實 ( 即 DSS 可以繼續去馬,行他們的 "非本地" 課程),non-jupas 條隊將來會越來越多人排;不過,我亦相信 non-jupas 收生 % 一定只會有加冇減,以反映現實的需要。

說到底,我唔係太擔心。

[ 本文章最後由 nintendo 於 07-7-27 14:17 編輯 ]
作者: mattsmum    時間: 07-7-27 13:36

( 小學雜談那邊,有 DSS 家長說,EMB 現突然要求 DSS 必須部留部份學位,跟隨本地課程,不能 100% 學生用 IB;這點好像未能證實 ),

this is true, I heard about it from another DSS school.
作者: Saturn    時間: 07-7-28 23:44

原文章由 mattsmum 於 07-7-27 13:36 發表
( 小學雜談那邊,有 DSS 家長說,EMB 現突然要求 DSS 必須部留部份學位,跟隨本地課程,不能 100% 學生用 IB;這點好像未能證實 ),

this is true, I heard about it from another DSS school.




我都有從一位DSS家長口中聽到相同的消息.  不過, 現在claim將來會讓學生考IB的local schools, 有部份都會給學生自己選擇考新高中試或IB (如CKY, Creative.).  兩所學校的網頁都有提及有關資料.  相信這些學校的學生也不會100%選擇考IB.  因為除了有些學生不打算到外國升讀大學外, 英語程度不足都可能是其中的原因.

Saturn.
作者: owenmami    時間: 07-7-30 10:33

CKY will adopt IGCSE & IB, 新高中試 will not be offered.
CKY is a "private" school (like ISF), not a DSS.
原文章由 Saturn 於 07-7-28 23:44 發表




我都有從一位DSS家長口中聽到相同的消息.  不過, 現在claim將來會讓學生考IB的local schools, 有部份都會給學生自己選擇考新高中試或IB (如CKY, Creative.).  兩所學校的網頁都有提及有關資料.  相信這 ...

作者: ChingChingDad    時間: 07-7-30 13:15

Information from ESF:

http://clc.esf.edu.hk/GroupRenderCustomPage.asp?GroupID=8544&ResourceId=52418

I.B. and Higher Education in Hong Kong



Hong Kong universites and higher education establishments accept students from across the world and acknowledge the International Baccalaureate Diploma as a recognised equivalent to the HKALE ( Hong Kong Advanced Level Examination). Careful research must be undertaken to ensure IB point tariffs are matched per individual institutions. Some universities may also ask for specific points awarded in particular subject areas. This is particularly relevant when making applications to the more competitive faculties.


Hong Kong University also offers students places on the Early Admissions Schemes. They have accepted students with IB qualification in the past and treat each application on its own individual merit. However, for Chinese University, they have usually only accepted students with GCE and HK A Levels. They did say recently that they would consider applications from IB Diploma students.



General Requirements
The following information can be obtained from the University web sites.
HKUST
http://www.ust.hk/en/index.html


Very general advice is given on the web site.
It is highly recommended that you research into individual Faculties and Departments for further indication on point ranges required. The most competitive business courses admissions requirements do ask for a minimum of 33 points. You should also check for individual subject points required for individual courses.
HKU
http://www.hku.hk/

The International Baccalaureate is not listed as one of their acknowledged subjects but
"Qualifications from countries which are not listed will be considered based on individual merits. In assessing qualifications, the University's main concern is to ensure that candidates have had an educational background which enables them to successfully complete the degree and benefit from studying in the university."
The University has acknowledged to ESF that it will accept students will an IB Diploma with individual Faculties stipulating points required for entry.


CHINESE UNIVERSITY
http://www.cuhk.edu.hk/v5/en/

The International Baccalaureate Diploma is accepted as a general entrance requirement.
Below is an outline of some specific Faculty requirements.


Business Administration

38 pts or above from six subjects, scoring at least 4 points in each subject


Hotel & Tourism Management
as above


Professional Accountancy

36 pts or above from six subjects, scoring at least 4 points in each subject.


Medicine


40 pts or above from six subjects


Information Engineering


30 pts or above from six subjects, scoring at least 6 points in Higher Level Physics and Maths


Chemistry

30 pts or above from six subjects, scoring at least 6 in Higher Level Chemistry



Architecture

36 pts or above from six subjects, scoring at least 4 in each subject.


HK POLYTECHNIChttp://www1.polyu.edu.hk/main/main_e.php
Applicants who hold the International Baccalaureate (IB) Diploma or associate degree qualifications satisfy the university's General Minimum Entrance Requirements up to and including the Bachelor's degree level.
Further research into individual faculties is required/ contact the University directly.



Pre-requisites
Some courses will specify prerequisites. Please read the information carefully on the web site/ prospectus. Some courses will require previous knowledge to a certain standard e.g. HKUST, to study Biology you must have studied Biology and Chemistry to Higher and Standard Level respectively; HKUST to study Computer Science, you must have studied Mathematics/Physics and Computer Studies to a Higher Level.


Other Qualifications
In assessing these qualifications, the University will ensure that applicants have an educational background which will enable them to complete the degree program of the University successfully. Proficiency in English is also required. Applicants not able to satisfy the Undergraduate General Entrance Requirement for English language may present alternative qualifications or other evidence that they have achieved an equivalent standard to a pass in the Hong Kong AS level Use of English examination.
Applicants with outstanding achievements at international competitions, such as the International Physics or Mathematics Olympiad, may also apply and their applications will be considered on individual merits.
作者: ChingChingDad    時間: 07-7-31 12:52

Year 2006 IB results
Students at the English Schools Foundation's Sha Tin College - the first ESF school to switch to the IB - achieved a 95 per cent pass rate, with 22 per cent of the 78 students scoring over 40.

That means 22% of the students are qualified to study Medicine in Chinese University.
作者: christf    時間: 07-8-3 09:20

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作者: ugotwutuwant    時間: 07-8-4 00:18

我係 non jupus 入local uni
non-jupus 收生年年人數不定
作者: Hilary    時間: 07-8-4 01:48

原文章由 ugotwutuwant 於 07-8-4 00:18 發表
我係 non jupus 入local uni
non-jupus 收生年年人數不定

我就想仔仔女女以non-JU 身份入讀本地大學(如果到時真係負擔唔到佢地去外國讀U), 一來真係可以間間學校入紙申請,(大約百五蚊報三科咁), 選自己心目中想選既科,
唔洗好似而家JUPAS咁以strategy方式選校選科。眼見好多學生派到唔鐘意讀既科,或因怕入唔到大學而選一些比較易入但其實興趣不大既科係首或次位
呢幾年以non-JU身份入本地大學真係易左, 因本地大學話要‘國際化’,(但實質咪係八九成既位比曬大陸既學生)
作者: Leechi    時間: 07-8-6 16:17     標題: 是否選擇IB將來入本地大學比本地學生容易些?

原文章由 ChingChingDad 於 07-7-31 12:52 發表
Year 2006 IB results
Students at the English Schools Foundation's Sha Tin College - the first ESF school to switch to the IB - achieved a 95 per cent pass rate, with 22 per cent of the 78 studen ...

是否選擇IB將來入本地大學比本地學生容易些? 但始終要英文成績好才能選讀IB, 否則兩頭不到岸!
作者: beetle    時間: 07-8-12 01:06

For my case, I took GCE A Level overseas, so I had to apply local universities through non-JUPAs.  Unlike JUPAs , I can send applications to more than one university at the same time.  So at the end 3 universities accepted me at the same time.  (seems to be an advantage)

But I'm not sure about the percentage of students that could be admitted through non-JUPAs.
作者: nintendo    時間: 07-8-12 10:24

原文章由 Leechi 於 07-8-6 16:17 發表

是否選擇IB將來入本地大學比本地學生容易些? 但始終要英文成績好才能選讀IB, 否則兩頭不到岸!



是否選擇IB將來入本地大學比本地學生容易些?

將來的事,冇人會知。
單以人數計,現時真的很難預料將來 non-jupas "學額 vs 申請人數目" 的比例。不過我相信 non-jupas 的學額,應該只會越來越多。

另外,我亦聽過一些大學 lecturer 說,很多 lecturer 都覺得 IB 學生質素很好,佢地都鍾意 IB 學生;不過,大學收生都當然有既定的政策,我估唔係話個別 lecturer 可以話事。
我想講的,係話大學一早就知 IB 學生的實力,印象分好高,將來的 IB 學弟學妹一定有著數。

但始終要英文成績好才能選讀IB, 否則兩頭不到岸!

其實,現在的 IB 學校主要係國際學校,國際學校都係英語教學的學校,如果由幼稚園或小一開始入讀國際學校,孩子們一般都早已當英語為第一語言,甚至即使只係中一才轉讀國際學校的學生,多年下來,我相信英語水平都唔會差。

但,IB 的確係一個很 demanding 的課程,並非單單係英語的問題,而係學生都要主動學習,肯想,肯說。如果學生讀了多年本地主流學校,又加上本身英語水平唔夠,可能真的會有有心無力的感覺,因而表現失色。因此,即使係有些讀開名校的學生,很多一旦在預科階段轉校,讀 IBD 課程,都表現麻麻,我就知有的甚至後來轉回本地主流學校算了。其實,現在單單只提供 IBD 課程的學校,其實都主要係國際學校,國際學校的學生,因為教學語言,和教學方法,都是比較易轉讀 IB 的。

現在很多新開辦的 DSS (直資學校) 都聲稱會採用 IB 課程 ( 最近聽來的消息係,EMB 都唔比 DSS 全用 IB 課程,要部留部份學位採用本地課程;部份學校已表明,因資金問題,會全部學位轉回採用本地課程;這個消息似乎係暑假前傳出的,亦未能證實,看來這類學校將來路向都未很清晰,家長要留意),但我覺得佢地的英語環境,未必足夠應付 IB 課程。當然,如果係本身是頂尖名校如 SPCC ( SPCC 都有可能將來提供 IB 課程,以佢地的學費水平及江湖地位,要搞 "半本地半 IB " 應該都可行 ) ,英語水平就應該不會有大問題。

[ 本文章最後由 nintendo 於 07-8-12 10:28 編輯 ]
作者: SaBB    時間: 07-8-12 14:39

原文章由 beetle 於 07-8-12 01:06 發表
For my case, I took GCE A Level overseas, so I had to apply local universities through non-JUPAs.  Unlike JUPAs , I can send applications to more than one university at the same time.  So at the  ...


想當年我都係咁,可以申請曬香港所有大學及鐘意既科,and then 同一時間有幾個offer慢慢選..
唔洗好似本地學生咁派到選間邊科就要讀




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