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作者: venice121 時間: 07-7-17 23:26 標題: 想由蔡繼有轉去St Margaret's School

我小朋友今年升三年級,可惜老師說他的英文成績在標準以下但又要他升三年級,因為二年級無位.我個人認為這種情況只有官津學校才發生,想不到私學都有這個問題.家長願意付出比人多是因為期望學校是有別於其他官校,不然索性讀官校好了.

現想請教St Margaret's School家長,對此校的意見,例如學習情況,老師質素,學校行政等等.多謝!

作者: Sincelia 時間: 07-7-18 17:09

我想問你小朋友英文程度如何?

原文章由 venice121 於 07-7-17 23:26 發表
我小朋友今年升三年級,可惜老師說他的英文成績在標準以下但又要他升三年級,因為二年級無位.我個人認為這種情況只有官津學校才發生,想不到私學都有這個問題.家長願意付出比人多是因為期望學校是有別於其他官校,不 ...

作者: G-Ma 時間: 07-7-18 18:16

Hi Venice121,

你可以到以下條link到睇吓st. margaret's嘅comments:

http://discuz.baby-kingdom.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=197

原文章由 venice121 於 07-7-17 23:26 發表
我小朋友今年升三年級,可惜老師說他的英文成績在標準以下但又要他升三年級,因為二年級無位.我個人認為這種情況只有官津學校才發生,想不到私學都有這個問題.家長願意付出比人多是因為期望學校是有別於其他官校,不 ...

作者: venice121 時間: 07-7-18 22:28

多謝你提供的資料.

原文章由 G-Ma 於 07-7-18 18:16 發表
Hi Venice121,

你可以到以下條link到睇吓st. margaret's嘅comments:

http://discuz.baby-kingdom.com/forumdisplay.php?fid=197

作者: venice121 時間: 07-7-19 22:48

老師說低於水平但又要讓他升班,真是奇怪.

原文章由 Sincelia 於 07-7-18 17:09 發表
我想問你小朋友英文程度如何?

作者: IH 時間: 07-7-19 23:03

原文章由 venice121 於 07-7-17 23:26 發表
我小朋友今年升三年級,可惜老師說他的英文成績在標準以下但又要他升三年級,因為二年級無位.我個人認為這種情況只有官津學校才發生,想不到私學都有這個問題.家長願意付出比人多是因為期望學校是有別於其他官校,不 ...

Being an ex-XKY parent, I strongly advise you to change school, though I've no idea of St. Margret. If your son still stays at XKY and promote to P.3 even his English is below standard, he would be more difficult to catch up P.3's standard, bear in mind, almost,every subjects, science, maths, computer and English in English, that means he would at least fail in 4 subjects. Either you get a serious tutor to help him, (don't listen to Principal LXX who always declared no tutor is needed, every XKY student can study well in the school, I am the one who trusted her before, but I found it was wrong, even Miss LXM later said what Principal said was only applied to those result already are good)or just let him to keep losing confidence.

Dont' expect the school will give resource to those poor academic students!! If those already perfect and brilliant students, this is really a good school but not for those worst ones like my kid. Of course, if you wish to change, your son takes time to get use to the new school enviornment, but child gets use easily as soon as he/she knows some new friends.

Let me tell you the school/homework for P3 and P4 in XKY would be suddenly much much more difficult than P.1 and P.2, it was happy to have few and easy exercises in the first two years, but without good foundation, those who are below standard would find hard when they promote to higher level. Even parents' assistance might not able to cope with the school requirement.

Anyway, this is the first time for me to express on line about XKY after my son changed to another subsidies schol. But I found it is a good decision for the change.

Good Luck!!

[ 本文章最後由 IH 於 07-7-19 23:20 編輯 ]

作者: che 時間: 07-7-20 00:10

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作者: papa_pop 時間: 07-7-20 04:42

I might not be in the best position to comment on student standard as I've been a CKY parent for only a year.  Here're my observations:

First, it seems to me that CKY is quite a good school IF the student really loves learning, say, by reading or even watching educational videos, and somehow (thru his parents or classmates) develops an interest and initiative to learn.  This principle should hold for a 6-year-old in general.  However if the kid simply enjoys slacking around, he's likely to find himself lagging behind his peer, esp after 2 or 3 years.

Second, CKY encourages interactive classroom which is conducive to learning.  When a Y1 student pointed out that arachnids consist of two body parts instead of 3 (as for insects), the teacher was quick to acknowledge the mistake made in the textbook/worksheet.  Peer group influence also facilitates learning more.  A parent once shared her experience of witnessing her kid turning from a lazy reader to a book lover in six months - he was competing with his classmates in finishing a fiction series.

Third, to be honest, CKY does not set too high a requirement on lower grades (Y1-2). I guess few kids would suffer the hard feeling of failure.

Fourth, sorry to say that I only take note of the good ones - someY3 students are already reading the Harry Potter series, and theperformers (guess they're in Y3-6) of the musical at the last schoolconcert did impress me with their exceptional presentations.

Last but not least, parents of upper years tell me that there is quite a gap among students.  Some underperformers are asked to repeat.  In fact, I've heard of cases where the kid needed to repeat when switching to CKY.  Guess these are some kind of remedial measures for those in need.  I dare not portray too rosy a picture for prospective parents.  Perhaps some other parents could chip in to give a more balanced point of view.

By the way, would a CKY dropout really find St. Magaret's school a good haven?

作者: ChristyBBmama 時間: 07-7-20 10:05

Dear papa-po

Sorry, I don't really understand. If the requirement is not
really high, why will the kids fail? Do you mean when they are promoted to upper grade (e.g. yr3-6)? Thanks.

原文章由 papa_pop 於 07-7-20 04:42 發表
Third, to be honest, CKY does not set too high a requirement on lower grades (Y1-2). I guess few kids would suffer the hard feeling of failure....

作者: IH 時間: 07-7-20 12:43

I want to emphasis I all along was an active pro-XKY parent during the first 3 to 4 years. I attended almost every parent nights, school activities and game days. I kept close and good relationship with teachers and other parents. I was looking forward the overseas school trips with my kid, his Y.5 assignment and kept checking the new Y6 cirriculum. I never though it was not a suitable school for my kid. I always told myself XKY provided a long term training, not marks/grades for individual to decide students' achievement. I kept waiting and I trusted that the school could provide sufficient assistance to those poorer students as I was told tutor was not recommended. I loved this school very much and I also expressed positive comment on this school in this website in the past.

It was true that many outstanding students on the stage performing excellently, many good ones read difficult storybooks. However, for those below standard seemed had been neglected. I was shocked to see my kid's questionaire in Moral Education that he filled in every item about self-esteem, self-confidencen and ability at the lowest grade. He did not smile in the school photoes. He kept being teasted when he could not get marks for his group. I found that it should be the time to change. After the change, of course it is not another heaven, he at least gained back his confidence, though he missed his old classmates, he well accustomed to the new school shortly.

I did not and never say it is not a good school, but for the case 'venice 121', I would suggest her to consider if it is right for her kid to stay.

作者: HeiHeiBoy 時間: 07-7-20 13:23

I am not a CKY parent but I like this school(teaching
approach) very much. So, when I read the messages of
several parents below, I feel a little bit disappointed on
how it treated those "below standard" students. But, will those real IS have the same situation ? Any parents can
share their experiences ?

作者: christf 時間: 07-7-20 13:46

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作者: kunggi201 時間: 07-7-20 13:54

原文章由 papa_pop
於 07-7-20 04:42 發表
First, it seems to me that CKY is quite a good school IF the student really loves learning, say, by reading or even watching educational videos, and somehow (thru his parents or classmates) develops an interest and initiative to learn. This principle should hold for a 6-year-old in general. However if the kid simply enjoys slacking around, he's likely to find himself lagging behind his peer, esp after 2 or 3 years.

Agreed.
The school provides very good learning environment, but if students cannot develop their own initiatives to learn in the first two years, they will find themselves lagging behind in the upper grades.

原文章由 papa_pop
於 07-7-20 04:42 發表
Second, CKY encourages interactive classroom which is conducive to learning. When a Y1 student pointed out that arachnids consist of two body parts instead of 3 (as for insects), the teacher was quick to acknowledge the mistake made in the textbook/worksheet. Peer group influence also facilitates learning more. A parent once shared her experience of witnessing her kid turning from a lazy reader to a book lover in six months - he was competing with his classmates in finishing a fiction series.

Yes, the school encourages students to develop their own thinking, their own judgements.

原文章由 papa_pop
於 07-7-20 04:42 發表
Third, to be honest, CKY does not set too high a requirement on lower grades (Y1-2). I guess few kids would suffer the hard feeling of failure.

I think they are still young, and they have not yet developed a strong self-esteem yet.

原文章由 papa_pop
於 07-7-20 04:42 發表
Fourth, sorry to say that I only take note of the good ones - someY3 students are already reading the Harry Potter series, and theperformers (guess they're in Y3-6) of the musical at the last schoolconcert did impress me with their exceptional presentations.

My Y3 kid started reading the Harry Potter series last year.
He said he understood about 60% of the stories. Not bad.

原文章由 papa_pop
於 07-7-20 04:42 發表
Last but not least, parents of upper years tell me that there is quite a gap among students. Some underperformers are asked to repeat. In fact, I've heard of cases where the kid needed to repeat when switching to CKY. Guess these are some kind of remedial measures for those in need. I dare not portray too rosy a picture for prospective parents. Perhaps some other parents could chip in to give a more balanced point of view.

It is true.
When my kid entered CKY, the English reading standard of his Y1 classmates ranged from level 1 to level 12.
Great gap!

原文章由 papa_pop
於 07-7-20 04:42 發表
By the way, would a CKY dropout really find St. Magaret's school a good haven?

Don’t know. It depends on what the parents want.

Dear Venice121

我孩子班有一個同學，入校時的英文閱讀能力只是level 1（只識幾個簡單英文字），三年來我見他已達至level 8或9了；相反，有些本身level高的，幾年來進步緩慢。

我覺得，英文程度是不是合標準尚在其次，主要是學校是不是適合孩子。孩子自學能力強的，在CKY就如魚得水了，即使今日的成績不好，但在整個學習環境下，擁有比其他學校更多機會接觸英文和普通話，就算他在班中排最尾，也會比外面的學生強（外面有幾多間官校的小三學生可以有level 8 or 9 水平？）。但是，如孩子要多監督才肯讀書的，就不要留在CKY了，找一些比較傳統的學校會好些。

我認識一位家長選擇退學，是因為他認為孩子的同學們太強了（其實，他的孩子是十分乖和聰明）。有去過音樂會、家長日、乜會物會的家長都會同意，CKY實在是有一班尖子學生。我孩子英文程度在班中是中上水平，但他在最近的international assessment（公開給香港學校參加的考試），他被評定為top 5%，其他CKY尖子學生的水準之高，更可想而知。

看過我留言的網友應知我並不是一個「CKY粉絲」，相反地，我經常批評學校的不是。我不肯定「IH」所說，校方並沒有照顧較弱勢的學生，但同意這些尖子學生令其他學生造成壓力。我孩子在幼稚園和Y1時是「小小演說家」，但在Y2和Y3時變得沉默，不願在班中show and tell，看來是怕在尖子學生面前「獻醜」了。現在他在學術上的「鬥心」仍很強，很努力reading和做projects，但如果有一天他變得自卑而自暴自棄，我也會像那位退學的家長一樣，找另一間程度較低的學校。

平心而論，任個學校任何班，都總會有above standard, meeting standard和below standard的學生，也不是CKY獨有，卻不知這些學校如何協助程序較低的學生（課外特殊班？校內補習？）。一些名校特別照顧尖子學生也不是新鮮事，我甚至聽到，那些名校甚至「勸籲」程度較低的學生轉校，也有家長認為，清除「瘀血」保存校譽是理應如此（可悲！）。

總括來說，我看重是，學校適不適合孩子，學習是終生的，最重要是有自信和自學心，眼前的成績是次要。

以上為個人觀點。

作者: 淡然 時間: 07-7-20 14:05

原文章由 kunggi201 於 07-7-20 13:54 發表
總括來說，我看重是，學校適不適合孩子，學習是終生的，最重要是有自信和自學心，眼前的成績是次要。

以上為個人觀點。

非常同意, 很高興看見如此清醒理智的家長.

作者: christf 時間: 07-7-20 14:14

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作者: kunggi201 時間: 07-7-20 14:58

原文章由 christf 於 07-7-20 14:14 發表
**My Y3 kid started reading the Harry Potter series last year.
He said he understood about 60% of the stories. Not bad.**

It is so funny to hear that someone claims he/she understood about 6 ...

Well, firstly I don't push my kid to read books.
It is his self-interest to read whatever books he likes, as long as they are not bad books. My kid is a book-worm, and he has more than 500 books in home now (not including those of about 100 books which I have already given away to my relatives, and if you have chased my post record you will know I have sold more than 200 used oxford reading books in baby-kingdom to clear my cabinet)

Secondly I can only trust my kid on how far he can understand. He claims he can understand more than half, about 60%. I believe so, as he can tell the difference between the books and the movies. If he doesn't understand at all, he won't keep reading that "thick pillow" and beg me again and again to buy the series one followed by the others. He could have chosen to buy toys for his birthdays rather than books.

Lastly, reading is a learning path. As long as you enjoy the process, it is no harm to read books beyond your level. For example, I started reading the original 三國演義 when I was in P5 although I didn't understand all classical Chinese (文言文) at that time. But I dare to say, even most adults now cannot understand 100% of the Chinese written by 文言文. Does it mean, we should not let our kids, or even ourselves read 三國演義?

[ 本文章最後由 kunggi201 於 07-7-20 15:06 編輯 ]

作者: christf 時間: 07-7-20 15:07

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作者: 502 時間: 07-7-20 15:11

對以下的評價很難認同。
完全同意不應該免強孩子閱讀他不感興趣的東西。然而孩子閱讀時有若干不懂的地方絕對是可以理解的。孩子估計他能理解百分之六十又何錯之有？閣下又憑什麽理解kunggi201是在強迫孩子閱讀超越能力的水平呢？
我的孩子也在啃Harry Potter 第六冊. 我先生問我孩子能理解多少是我的回答是他自己會懂得調節，我們家長根本不用多加理會，只需要鼓勵他的閱讀興趣，在他要求時加以協助即可。
就我自己爲例，小時候也是在人云亦云下開始閱讀中國四大名著。書中不能完全讀懂的地方比比皆是，但慢慢也學懂欣賞。誰說要在讀懂以後才開始閱讀？我們要學懂游泳才可以跳進水裏嗎？
請christf 以比較客觀的討論態度來跟家長分享，
而不是以嘲弄諷刺出發！

原文章由 christf 於 07-7-20 14:14 發表
**My Y3 kid started reading the Harry Potter series last year.
He said he understood about 60% of the stories. Not bad.**

It is so funny to hear that someone claims he/she understood about 6 ...

作者: 502 時間: 07-7-20 15:13

kunggi201,

It seems to me that I've just repeated your message.

But great to see a parent who is really caring the kid's interests in books, rather than showing off!

Cheers,

502

作者: kunggi201 時間: 07-7-20 15:56

Thanks 502.

I don’t mean to show off.
Actually there are many kids in CKY having higher English standard than my boy.
In other CKY thread I also shared the strengths and weaknesses of my kid.
Yes, he is strong in English reading, this is the merit of the teaching method of CKY.
But he is not strong in spoken English, especially he is reluctant to speak in front of the class (I have already explained the reason).
Comparing to other government schools students, his Putonghua is good due to the daily training in school, but his Chinese reading and writing skills are……terrible!
I think his Chinese standard is far lagging behind the students of other local schools, and I have been having a headache on how to improve his Chinese.

As other parents said, CKY Principle Lau doesn’t suggest 補習 for their students.
Well, my personal view is that even you do, it won’t help, as CKY has its own curriculum, so no 補習社 can really follow the track of CKY.
I would prefer to find ways to raise the interest of my kid towards Chinese, e.g. let him read Chinese comic (記得我地細個時在學校睇公仔書會俾老師和家長罰嗎？想不到我現在居然叫孩子看漫畫).
I am also finding some interesting Chinese poem and speech courses.
It could be another way of 補習, just like CKY uses the terms “assessment” or “challenge” rather than “exam”, “penmanship” and 「靚字集」instead of “copybook”.

作者: Cathyneo 時間: 07-7-20 16:25

kunggi201,
我囝囝都係由英幼稚園升英小，接觸中文的機會唔多，不過我見囝囝小一呢年中文進步很多。原因如下：
1. 佢喜歡看新聞，新聞裏的廣東話較接近白話文，又有字幕，佢從中學左不少詞彙。
2. 我買左不少台灣出的漫畫書，內容很有趣，有科學、自然、歷史、冒險等，吸引到囝囝經常看。
3. 由幼稚園開始每星期有1小時去補習班上普通話中文堂(1對2)，由拼音開始學起，到現時每次會學兩篇文章，朗讀及有閱讀理解練習。
4. 我有買中文補充練習俾囝囝做，我要求佢每天完成兩頁，當練習寫字。

我唔知你小朋友在家中是講中文定英文，如果有講中文，又喜歡看書，應該追返中文都唔難。希望可以幫到你。

ps 你可以去我個人網址睇睇我介紹的書。

作者: Cathyneo 時間: 07-7-20 16:30

雖然學校話唔駛補習，但我地最清楚小朋友的強弱，對症下藥，打好語文基礎，一生受用。

作者: catcatmom 時間: 07-7-20 16:44

E+ D 小朋友睇書, 好多都係自發性去睇, 邊度有得"迫"佢睇深d 程度既書+, 大學生去睇大人英文小說, 都5會隻隻字明啦! 佢地用好多俚語+嗎! 小朋友睇書只要鍾意同有興趣, 明白大意咪得law! 亞仔p3 已經睇Mr mildnight & a to z mysteries, 佢不知幾enjoy! 你比我睇, 我鐘意睇8掛雜誌多d!

作者: kunggi201 時間: 07-7-20 16:46

Dear Cathyneo

謝謝妳的意見！
可能是我太放任孩子，由他自行挑選他感興趣的課外活動和選擇書本，以至有此「後遺症」
過往香港人只要英文好就可以無往不利
今日，甚至未來20年，如果中文不好，只怕難以維生
補習和中文補充練習，對於我孩子會比較難以進行
看台灣出的漫畫書，也正是我現在做的
看新聞，我卻未曾想過，將會試試，謝謝！

作者: father_ho 時間: 07-7-20 21:03

原文章由 IH 於 07-7-20 12:43 發表
I want to emphasis I all along was an active pro-XKY parent during the first 3 to 4 years. I attended almost every parent nights, school activities and game days. I kept close and good relations ...

Dear IH and others,

I am a CKY parent with two kids studying there. Honestly, I did not frequently attend school functions (I believe we all need to work hard for survival). Indeed, as mentioned before, kids studying in these "new" idea school require extra effort instead of just hiring up private tutor to complete the parent job. For my case, I try to monitor my kid's progress personally, school result, the International Assessment result and some third party opinion(teacher teaching in primary and sec. school) in order to benchmark my kids. For my interpretation of principal Lau's wordings regarding private tutor, I would say it is useless for you to hire private tutor who just teach your kids completing the homework and reviewing textbook. For me, the school did provide environment that local school can't offer such as not defining student by just a single mark but I also will not blindly trust the school and let them complete the job. My approach is just defining the weakness area of my kids such as may be he/she is weak in writing but good at reading listening, then I need to provide some measures to amend the situation.

Regarding change school decision, it's all up to parent judgement. I admitted that when student up to P3,4,5, the lang. requirement will be much higher and it's quite difficult for your kids to follow if he/she did already had the hard feeling. I have no idea about St. Marg. and I do believe no matter which school you choose (DSS or gov.) school, their approach will be the same(exam. mark driven) at upper pri. and sec. since all these schools need exam. result to show off (DSS show for existence, gov. school show for english school brand name). There's not many school principal as like the one in Fresh Fish Trader school and count the value added in student. If you admit it is the case, what will you want?

作者: kyliema2006 時間: 07-7-21 10:02

補習問題
仍然清楚記得校長面試當天，校長一而再、再而三問孩子喜歡閱讀否，家長會否配合一起閱讀，每星期花多少時間在閱讀上．．．又云，學校希望與家長會成為partner等等。簡單講句，學校希望家長就是補習老師，每天與孩子閱讀，培養良好的閱讀習慣，從中進步、理解孩子的強與弱。試問，一般補習老師能否做到？所以，這就是孩子不用補習的原因了。我亦遇過一些高年級的學生，在家長口中，他們對閱讀不太感興趣的，他的學業成績亦相對較遜，就算他們每天補習（睇功課），效果亦不顯著。

補底問題
其實學校亦有類似中文�英文的加強班，美其名邀請部份學生參與，其實就是補底班。但歸根究底，若孩子未能養成良好的學習態度，可以做到的仍是有限。不似傳統學校，有範本可從，讀悉就得。其實知識是一點一滴的，若學生在低年級未能養成良好的閱讀習慣，到高年級時，學生的差異會很大。

好像學樂器一樣，有些孩子每天練習，有些每周練一兩天，成效立見高下。就算補習老師每天如何輔導較弱的一群，若孩子不肯自強，幫助亦是有限。

如果孩子缺乏閱讀興趣，可能傳統學校會較為適合。起碼，讀悉範本就可以應付測驗、考試，可能自信心會有所提高添！雖然我最討厭填鴨教育，但它的遊戲規則會較具體，容易被孩子跟從。

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作者: 塞曼莎 時間: 07-7-22 00:07

去或留,各人有自己的原因.最重要是找到合自己同小朋友的.其實自己都要付出,記起有人說"今天要早點回家同小朋友溫習...

現在要再讀小學"

其實去到邊間學校都唔好想著"自動波",將所有都交給學校.學校只提供學習環境,一班同一理念的家長.同學們互相影響而學習.不是有咩法術令同學們有好的閱讀/語言能力.

有些同學還是在Reading Corner看Picture Book,行來行去,但大部份已看著 chapter book, such as Rainbow Fairies/Magic Tree House,有些更說"我已看完邊本邊本...",一個好的良性競爭.學校要求同學們在某天說英文,不投入的便只在中文日狂說話,但投入的便無時無刻都提醒自己說咩語言,小朋友更互相提醒"O you said Chinese"

.但願我的小朋友能一路跟上主流的進度.

有邊間學校唔係話開心學習,我同意或者說接受事實的是,頭兩年好開心,跟著便會進一步深起來,學校及家長們都要面對現實,唔係點有好成績佢地考好的中學啊,特別是沒有中學的小學.

作者: venice121 時間: 07-7-22 00:21

多謝各位家長回應.

首先我想說明一點,我抱怨是老師的處事態度,當我拿成績表的時候,老師說我的孩子英文水平在全班尾二,我真是十分驚訝,跟着我問老師小朋友上課的時候是否明白老師的說話,她說小朋友在理解英語的能力是沒有問題,只是惰性和不專心所以讓他升三年班而且她更提議讓他試升一個月,當時我担心的是英語水平在全班尾二為何要勉強升班而且她的提議是完全不可行因為當我問她是否真的可以降回二年級,她的答案既然是不.這是否荒天下之大謬?

其實我讓小朋友到這間昂貴學校,是相信老師質素會比其她好並提供一個良好的語言學習環境,趣味性的教學方式能提高小朋友的專注力並引發自學能力,但很明顯在我小朋友身上找不到以上的好處,他變得無自信,更懶散和不交功課再加上老師的荒謬提議,令我對此校非常失望.話雖如此,總會有成功的例子,問題取決於小朋友的能力.總言之,未嘗過又怎知道是什麼味道呢?

原文章由 kunggi201 於 07-7-20 13:54 發表

Agreed.
The school provides very good learning environment, but if students cannot develop their own initiatives to learn in the first two years, they will find themselves lagging behind in ...

作者: kyliema2006 時間: 07-7-23 10:04

原文章由 venice121 於 07-7-22 00:21 發表
多謝各位家長回應.

首先我想說明一點,我抱怨是老師的處事態度,當我拿成績表的時候,老師說我的孩子英文水平在全班尾二,我真是十分驚訝,跟着我問老師小朋友上課的時候是否明白老師的說話,她說小朋友在理 ...

評估不容易將學生標籤化，及可針對學生的強弱作分析，但他的弊端就是學生不容易知道他的位置，不知道問題的嚴重性。當老師說是全班尾二，在没有足夠心理準備的情況下，一定很難受。

況且，可謂【試升】呢？此舉，確實莫名其妙。小兒今年升小二，在這一屆，每班大約有26-28人，相比升小三的一屆少，為何說無位呢？難道有很多插班生？

你有否探究孩子自信心減低的真正原因呢？最重要是對症下藥嘛，有陣時退一步，可能會海闊天空。最重要是找一間合適的學校。

作者: papa_pop 時間: 07-7-23 11:43

Venice, It's understandable you were upset with the teacher's attitude in your case. Your kid seems to be comparatively weak in spoken English. It's good that the teacher did alert you of your kid's weaknesses, but I also find her suggestion of promoting your kid to Y3 on a 'trial' basis unsettling. Perhaps you'd need to talk to other (senior) teachers to sort out the various options and prepare for Plan B if things take a wrong turn.

By the way, how do you find your kid doing in the past 10 month? Was your kid enjoying school? It could be a daunting job finding a perfect-matching school for a kid. But changing school every year might not do much good to a kid too.

Fair to say that you're not alone in finding CKY not their cup of tea.

作者: ckwliu 時間: 07-7-23 11:51

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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 07-7-23 12:04

原文章由 ckwliu 於 07-7-23 11:51 發表
In the P1 parents gathering, Principla Lau said there are 試升, 試留 and 補底. Seems that some upper form parents have not heard of it... maybe it's a new "invention" this year...

Dear ckwliu,

請問【試升】及【試留】有甚麼實際用途呢？試完效果理想又如何呢？有點摸不著頭腦。

作者: ckwliu 時間: 07-7-23 12:09

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作者: kyliema2006 時間: 07-7-23 12:19

原文章由 ckwliu 於 07-7-23 12:09 發表
kyliema, P. Lau said somethingk like : let them try out first if they can psycologically cope with the change... if not, then find other ways... not sure actually... but should be able to switc ...

若學校真的會觀察孩子的適應力，在一個月後評估情況，或會要求他升級或留級，我會覺得合適，起碼孩子仍會給予一個最後機會。若此安排仍未制度化，學校祇為美其名，或美化【留級】的形像，就没有此必要了。最終祇會給予家長模稜兩可的感覺，又或令孩子再痛一次。

作者: venice121 時間: 07-7-27 23:27

kyliema,

老師的提議是完全不可行的辦法,因為根本不可能退下來.對我來說這所學校跟官校無大分別.只是有外藉老師教英語而已.如果想小朋友真真正正用英語溝通,最重要是同學之間都是用英語對話.老師只能訓練學生聆聽能力,在說話上就要視乎冋學之間是否肯用英語了.

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 23/7/07 12:19 發表

若學校真的會觀察孩子的適應力，在一個月後評估情況，或會要求他升級或留級，我會覺得合適，起碼孩子仍會給予一個最後機會。若此安排仍未制度化，學校祇為美其名，或美化【留級】的形像，就没有此必要 ...

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