教育王國
標題: SIS vs CIS,兩間學校分别大嗎？ [打印本頁]
作者: jilin1960 時間: 15-2-20 09:27 標題: SIS vs CIS,兩間學校分别大嗎？
SIS vs CIS,兩間學校分别大嗎？如果兩間都收？怎樣選？
作者: jilin1960 時間: 15-2-20 09:30
HIHinsurance，可否給予客觀的評價？謝謝。
作者: lovecasey 時間: 15-2-20 09:35
回覆 jilin1960 的帖子
Which grade?
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 15-2-20 09:43
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-20 09:51 編輯
cis vs sis(新加坡國際學校)
CIS 數理方面較差
SIS 數理方面較強
因為CIS 是行MYP, 學校照教MYP
但出題怪
我看過CIS 的卷
感覺很怪....
我舉個例
有一次CIS 測數學
學校測驗, 問60蚊, A :B 分1:2
問你A B 各有多少錢
學生, 要將60蚊, 斬開三分, A 有1分, B 有2分
這些題目在SIS 算淺
很早就教
A 有 60 * 1/(1+2) =20
立即知20蚊, 攪咁多做乜
CIS 用鬼佬教法教書
上到去很辛苦,CIS 同ESF 一樣教法
CIS 與ESF 學生早期質素差不多
我看不到大分別
但CIS, 與SIS 早期學生, SIS 已經很明顯跑贏
外國人教書, 外國人思維怪
SIS 數理方面強CIS 好多
因為SIS 本身, 在IGCSE 時 行CIE , 有機會讀ADDITIONAL MATHS ,
academic excellence 的學生不少
SIS 比CIS 強`好多讀書
但CIS 交際, 其他方面, 都比SIS 強
所以父母是想怎樣的小孩
讀書型, 紀律型 就SIS,SIS 運動都OK
交際型, 非讀書型, 就CIS, 即畫畫, 唱歌, 運動非讀書技能
CIS 去到行IB DP 考大學最後2年
執得好緊, 好似你數學IB 來說, 有三科
HL MATHS 最深
SL MATHS 中間
STUDIES MATHS 最淺
你讀讀下, MATHS SL 不夠成績, 會俾學校 叫你落樓下讀STUDIES
SIS 早期, 數學教得深, 跟足新加坡制度教
SCIENCE 應該是最深的國際學校
考得好的SIS, 反宜去GSIS
SIS 讀IB MATHS ,只OFFER SL MATHS 及HL MATHS
SIS 學校在最後2年,PUSH 得好緊
個個星期測驗, MATHS, 之後CHEM ,2星期測一次
一星期, 最多測5科, 係咁測, PUSH 個predicted grade
CIS 很明顯少測驗好多
但CIS, 在非學術方面跑贏SIS 不少
CIS IB 平均分好似高過SIS
但極不穩定CIS, 2014年平均分比 2013年平均分大跌
SIS 反宜幾穩定
你想仔女做工程, 數理強的科, SIS
你想仔女,在軟實力方面較強, CIS
CIS 基本上, 在最後2年才轉型做讀書型
MYP 是非讀書型, DP 就谷得很勁很勁
星期一至五, 補補補
基本上, 你見到的成績, 都是俾錢打做出來
作者: jilin1960 時間: 15-2-20 09:43
五年級，其實是幫仔仔同學問，那個小朋友挺聰明，但比較活躍。(我仔仔讀SIS,好開心，暫時不會考慮轉校。)
作者: jilin1960 時間: 15-2-20 09:47
謝謝，如果以醫科為目標，sis適合嗎？
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 15-2-20 10:02
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-20 10:08 編輯
jilin1960 發表於 15-2-20 09:47 
謝謝，如果以醫科為目標，sis適合嗎？
第一年SIS , 三個入中大港大醫學院(藥劑+醫科+牙醫) 2男1女
第二年SIS, 3-4個入中大港大醫學院(藥劑+醫科+牙醫) 2-3男1女
報OXFORD唔收, 入左中大醫學院
有個有OFFER 醫學院, 我不知有冇入到
港大醫學院收緊了NON JUPAS, 一個女仔入左牙醫
SL ENG, MATHS , CHI LANG B
HL CHEM,BIO, ECON
CIS 應該都 有類似人數入醫學院, 我知上年, CIS FAST TRACK 港大醫學院
1個有OFFER, SIS則ＦＡＳＴ ＴＲＡＣＫ 無 ＯＦＦＥＲ
牙醫個ＯＦＦＥＲ 則是ＦＡＳＴ ＴＲＡＣＫ
其他學生， 到後期中大醫學院才出ＯＦＦＥＲ’
如果香港最大機會入醫， 我看是ＳＩＳ，ＣＩＳ，ＧＳＩＳ，李寶樁,WIS,唔計男拔,聖保羅男女中學
是旦中一間, 都唔需要轉
如果要博更大機會考醫學院, 就去英國名校
作者: jilin1960 時間: 15-2-20 10:14
謝謝您，非常有用。
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-2-20 12:02
回覆 jilin1960 的帖子
It is fair to say that the math and science in CIS are relatively weaker. But languages (especially English), humanities (especially History) are very strong.
2014 cohort has weaker IB results because of 2 reasons (my own opinion):
1. 2014 is a relatively weak cohort (let's wait and see the result of 2015)
2. In CIS, 50% of students aim at US universities. They will stop studying after Nov when the last transcript result is out. Close to 50% of students will not study hard for the actual IB exam. This trend will continue in CIS. I think in other IB schools, more students will aim at HK and UK universities, which give conditional offers and thus dependent on actual IB results.
作者: fatcni 時間: 15-2-20 12:10
Very useful info! Thx sharing!
Btw, why you all know so much info? Where is it come from?!
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 15-2-20 12:10
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-20 12:15 編輯
foolish.mom 發表於 15-2-20 12:02
回覆 jilin1960 的帖子
It is fair to say that the math and science in CIS are relatively weaker. But ...
http://www.cis.edu.hk/data/files/gallery/ContentGallery/1_2014_MAY_IBDP_Grade_distribution__Gradedistribution.pdf
算多人讀lang a 中文
成級 cdnis , 都係得3-4個人讀中文lang A
後尾2年, 我見CIS 追分數,追得很平
數理差的人, 多數轉左做STUDIES, 或轉科
其實去到, IB 最後CIS 與SIS 計數能力, 差不多
早期的落後, 已大幅收窄
所以我覺得SIS, CIS 都無須轉校
要轉就轉考試制度, 不是轉校'
CIS 功課古怪
老師要你跟佢方法
但老師方法, 是鬼佬形式做野
都係怪MYP 無統一好多野
諗野較慢, 細密, 做得慢
去到DP , 老師就放手, 俾學生自由的空間
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 15-2-20 12:38 標題: 回覆：SIS vs CIS,兩間學校分别大嗎？
如果家長唔 buy 西方自由教育，崇尚亞洲式學術致上，為乜唔讀本地？除非無資格讀本地。
作者: HIHinsurance 時間: 15-2-20 12:42
本帖最後由 HIHinsurance 於 15-2-20 12:46 編輯
fatcni 發表於 15-2-20 12:10
Very useful info! Thx sharing!
Btw, why you all know so much info? Where is it come from?!
我可以直入學校核心問佢地一些問題
一般人做不到
不過, 我俾你問到, 都無用
因為最後,落考場較量, 勝負
你父母正常讀1間學校, 與世隔絕
永世覺得自己仔女那間國際學校
只能從學校網站睇到資料
學校報喜不報憂, 同政府一樣
但子女讀緊書, 心情複雜
學校有時老師出了問題, 突然徬徨
我舉例, 你做緊IB 功課
計IB 分, 你發現, 同學俾好多錢搵人做
做得靚靚地, 高分
你又發現, 份EE , 同學問師兄借來抄
左改右改, 同學高分
自己低分, 根本不可能高分
你又發覺, 某些同學, 在擦老師鞋
擦出個預測7分來
你的心情, 憤怒及複雜
終回到社會現實
陳茂波單案, 你估真係咁簡單
波叔輸官司, 人地無辜
眼看未為真, 只能感受及思考'
知道什麼, 我講什麼
作者: Jane1983 時間: 15-2-20 13:06
回覆 HIHinsurance 的帖子
陳茂波单野，佢未比人告之前，報紙有報導，班里面好幾個學生和家長投訴過果对twins…不過后来陳做了官，焦点吾同左。
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-2-20 18:47
回覆 HIHinsurance 的帖子
If the child aims at studying medicine, the following points should be considered:
1. How to achieve a perfect or nearly perfect score at IB
The requirement for HK medical schools is IB 44-45, CU IB 43? It means the student needs to aim at grade 7 for all 6 subjects, plus 3 bonus points. We Chinese are usually strong at Math and Science. It isn't that hard to get grade 7 in Math and Science for a smart Chinese kid. But it may be difficult to get grade 7 in the 2 languages + humanities. My son (in CIS) is a Math & Science guy. Even without outside tutoring, he predicts that it is not really difficult to get grade 7 in Math and Science HL. However, over the years, CIS teachers and ways of teaching helped him to improve his English and humanities, and TOK too. Math and Sciences are easy to study (even by himself), but good English, essay writing skills, critical thinking and reasoning require the nurture of years at school.
2. Reputation of school (especially during university admission selection and interview)
When my son attended interview at HKU, and alumni interview of top US universities, the interviewers all mentioned "Oh, you are at CIS". He saw certain advantage being at this school.
3. Competitiveness of classmates
The reputation of CIS attracts many of the most competitive students to study there. Yes, shoe shining is a common phenomenon, especially in senior years. Shoe shining in the ways to catch attention of teachers in classes, in order to get a good predicted grade. Students have to be very involved in classes, asking sensible questions, provide insightful feedback instantly.
My son wasn't nervous when attending university interviews. He said, during TOK, language and humanities lessons, he often had to debate with teachers and classmates, and many of those classmates are in debate team, world scholar team. He felt he couldn't have been challenged more in the interviews than in those classes.
CIS is not a perfect school. Like many other schools, it has many flaws. However, if I were that boy, I would choose CIS.
作者: 964000 時間: 15-2-20 19:23 標題: 回覆：SIS vs CIS,兩間學校分别大嗎？
Actually, if you aim local school medic, wouldn't it be better to study in local elite school?
作者: Woojba 時間: 15-2-20 20:35 標題: 回覆：HIHinsurance 的帖子
願聞其詳
作者: jilin1960 時間: 15-2-20 21:28
964000 發表於 15-2-晝 19:23
Actuall適，IBif yoa 獨ocal school medi份,ouldn't it be better to study in local elite school?
作者: shadeslayer 時間: 15-2-21 01:02 標題: 引用：Quote:964000+發表於+15-2-晝+19:23+Actual
原帖由 jilin1960 於 15-02-20 發表
一，孩子不喜學中文，不看任何中文晝，過不了dse中文關。二，孩子適合ib的教學方式，有獨立思考能力，数理 ...
作者: sammypsng 時間: 15-2-22 01:04 標題: 引用：Quote:原帖由+jilin1960+於+15-02-20+發表
原帖由 shadeslayer 於 15-02-21 發表
The best way to get in local medical schools is actually via the local route. Or so it seems.
作者: yemarose 時間: 15-2-22 19:27
謝謝各位的資訊, 很有用呢!
小兒現就讀sis, p6; 剛收到cis, grade 8 的 接訥信, 現在正為他煩惱應否在明年轉校?
他是一個理科小子，英文寫作亦不錯, 只是對中文提不起興趣來。怎樣好呢？
cis 在grade 10時要到杭洲campus上學,這是否為考IB chi lang A 打好基礎呢?
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-2-22 20:34
回覆 yemarose 的帖子
The CIS Hangzhou for year 10 students has 2 main objectives:
1. provide boarding school experience, especially after school and weekend activities for a full year. The administration said it is a life changing experience for teenagers
2. Chinese language immersion
I personally don't quite agree with the Hangzhou initiative. But it is compulsory for newly admitted students.
Regarding Chinese, the atmosphere of CIS (mainly student themselves) doesn't support the "pursue of excellence" in Chinese. Some students have excellent Chinese throughout the school years. But as I see they all like reading Chinese books. So your boy needs to have some driving force, either from an inspiring teacher, or from himself to excel, to push himself to read Chinese books.
If your boy is admitted to year 8, he must be academically talented. So he should be able to perform at the top levels regardless of which school he is in. As kids need time to adjust themselves when changing schools, you should think twice before making any decision.
If your main concern is whether he can achieve top grades in DP exam, you may analyse the IB DP grades of each subject obtained by SIS students, in order to predict your son's grades. How is the study atmosphere at senior years of SIS? At CIS, the academic pressure is high, and the pressure is mainly created by peer students. Anxiety is not uncommon.
If the boy's target is to study medicine in HK, achieving top DP grade is the prime objective. However, if you target US top universities, a shining and broad based activity resume is a must. CIS may be more appropriate, as the school encourages and supports students to take part in many activities, many of which build leadership skills.
作者: yemarose 時間: 15-2-22 22:46
Thanks for the valuable advise.
請教：SIS 的IB課程年歷不多, 這是否也需考慮在內？
而CIS的老師富有對IB的要求的經驗, 這定能有助學生的成績, 這說法是對嗎？
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-2-22 23:16
回覆 yemarose 的帖子
Yes, your points are very valid.
The most difficult area should be how to teach TOK, and give advice. Besides, marking scheme in IB is really quite different from other traditional syllabus. Experienced IB teachers know whether a particular Extended Essay can get a high mark, Marks of internal assessment will not deviate much after external moderation.
If your boy considers overseas universities, an experienced university counselling team will help a lot during the application process.
作者: 112200 時間: 15-2-24 23:56 標題: 回覆：yemarose 的帖子
Hi yemarose, I always have a questionnin mind , I think you can helpme . Sis teaches in simplified Chinese But CIS teaches in traditional Chinese. do you know How CIS looks at this gap when considering student transfer from a simplified Chinese background ?
作者: foolish.mom 時間: 15-2-25 00:16
回覆 112200 的帖子
In CIS, students can write essay or answer questions in simplified Chinese. The teaching materials are all in traditional Chinese, though.
作者: 112200 時間: 15-3-8 22:38 標題: 回覆：foolish.mom 的帖子
Oh, really! it's a common arrangement or special arrangement by request? Do u know?
| 歡迎光臨 教育王國 (/) |
Powered by Discuz! X1.5 |