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作者: DeeDeeY 時間: 11-6-4 12:02 標題: St. Paul Convent or Marymount

竟然跨區中Marymount,好似整定咁,點揀好?

St. Paul Convent & Marymount
兩間都咁好,邊間會輕鬆的?升中又點睇?

有冇SPK 家長有呢個情形,請問你地點揀同點解(我得一個女,唔駛幫阿妺)?

作者: meiyip 時間: 11-6-4 12:24

St. Paul Convent. 升中唔洗煩..

marymount 升中都唔知有冇收番一半人..

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作者: Fionyiu 時間: 11-6-4 12:51

of course st Paul convent. It is a very good school and you will not disappointed.

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竟然跨區中Marymount,好似整定咁,點揀好?

St. Paul Convent & Marymount
兩間都咁好,邊間會輕鬆的?升中又點睇?

有冇SPK 家長有呢個情形,請問你地點揀同點解(我得一個女,唔駛幫阿妺)? ...

作者: karen55407 時間: 11-6-4 13:33

Marymount

原帖由 DeeDeeY 於 11-6-4 12:02 發表
竟然跨區中Marymount,好似整定咁,點揀好?

St. Paul Convent & Marymount
兩間都咁好,邊間會輕鬆的?升中又點睇?

有冇SPK 家長有呢個情形,請問你地點揀同點解(我得一個女,唔駛幫阿妺)? ...

作者: pluto_yuen 時間: 11-6-4 14:27

SPK , no need to worry about secondary school.

作者: redkoni 時間: 11-6-4 15:37

原帖由 DeeDeeY 於 11-6-4 12:02 發表
竟然跨區中Marymount,好似整定咁,點揀好?

St. Paul Convent & Marymount
兩間都咁好,邊間會輕鬆的?升中又點睇?

有冇SPK 家長有呢個情形,請問你地點揀同點解(我得一個女,唔駛幫阿妺)? ...

St Paul's Convent for sure if you can afford to pay school fees for 12 years.

作者: AlanShirley 時間: 11-6-4 16:01

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作者: mtkdc 時間: 11-6-5 10:01

原帖由 DeeDeeY 於 11-6-4 12:02 發表
竟然跨區中Marymount,好似整定咁,點揀好?

St. Paul Convent & Marymount
兩間都咁好,邊間會輕鬆的?升中又點睇?

有冇SPK 家長有呢個情形,請問你地點揀同點解(我得一個女,唔駛幫阿妺)? ...

女兒是SPK學生，也是這個情況，跨區派中聖保祿天主教小學，我也跟你一樣難以取捨！

作者: chunheimama 時間: 11-6-5 10:42

原帖由 DeeDeeY 於 11-6-4 12:02 發表
竟然跨區中Marymount,好似整定咁,點揀好?

St. Paul Convent & Marymount
兩間都咁好,邊間會輕鬆的?升中又點睇?

有冇SPK 家長有呢個情形,請問你地點揀同點解(我得一個女,唔駛幫阿妺)? ...

Marymount

港島區英小, 有漂亮校舍, 和 St Paul Convent same level, 我覺得你已中咗頭獎 la.

作者: Jasmine-4711 時間: 11-6-5 10:44

Academically, of course Marymount is much better. But for St. Paul u need not worry about a secondary school place.

作者: dichiu 時間: 11-6-5 10:56

如果錢不是考慮問題就應揀 St Paul Convent。因為依家冇咗會考，三三四信唔過，隨時過兩年又教改，SPC會要學生考 GCSE，對將來升讀大學一定有優勢。相反 Marymont 中學都係津校，受教統局牽制，絕不會比學生考這類公開試！長遠來看如負擔得來揀間有名牌直資中學直升嘅小學好啲！

原帖由 Jasmine-4711 於 11-6-5 10:44 發表
Academically, of course Marymount is much better. But for St. Paul u need not worry about a secondary school place.

作者: Johorma 時間: 11-6-5 11:00

SPK

作者: DeeDeeY 時間: 11-6-5 12:33

Is it still truth the you can get a secondary place in St. Paul as long as you get a passing grade in Eng, Chinese, Maths and General Studies?
So many people said that SPC now becomes increasingly demanding, especially for Chinese, which is very difficult. It is not easy even to get a "
PASS". And the primary school life is really hard and full of pressure.
Whereas for MPS, school life is happy and relaxing.
And around 2/3 of primary students manage to get a place in MSS, is it right? In fact, I am an alumnae of MSS.
Can any existing SPC & MPS parents share?

作者: Wing(婷婷媽咪) 時間: 11-6-5 12:42

如果錢唔係問題就揀SPC，以我所知SPC升中都係要INTERVIEW，但係機會率點都大過MARYMOUNT升中，加上MARYMOUNT而家派位，質素會有可能有參差，SPC穩定好多

作者: w_y 時間: 11-6-5 13:00

如 $ 不是問題一定SPC.
你真係好幸運!

作者: harrison 時間: 11-6-5 14:16

原帖由 Jasmine-4711 於 11-6-5 10:44 發表
Academically, of course Marymount is much better. But for St. Paul u need not worry about a secondary school place.

絕對同意!! 就最後一次會考成績, 考取14分以上的%, Marymount 高過 Convent.
還有兩者比較, Marymount 校舍靚, 學習氣氛輕鬆, 個個擁有 happy shcool life, 啲學費仲可以留比阿囡學其它嘢.......真係有備 dream school 的條件!!
曾經請教過一位著名嘅教育心理學家關於呢兩間學校點去選嘅問題, 佢都極力游說我老公選 Marymount, 但當然係講我個女啫....

作者: DeeDeeY 時間: 11-6-6 13:31

請問呢位心理學家理據係咩,可以詳細講下嗎?

會考成績,真係MSS 好過SPC ?我聽到嘅係相反。仲有 MSS 係味重係文強理弱(我以前讀係咁)?

MPS課程係咪真係好輕鬆?我以前係中學讀就一D都唔輕鬆。如果小學鬆中學緊,學生會唔會好難適應?

原帖由 harrison 於 11-6-5 14:16 發表

絕對同意!! 就最後一次會考成績, 考取14分以上的%, Marymount 高過 Convent.
還有兩者比較, Marymount 校舍靚, 學習氣氛輕鬆, 個個擁有 happy shcool life, 啲學費仲可以留比阿囡學其它嘢.......真係有備 dream ...

作者: daisy17772 時間: 11-6-6 13:41

Convent is always trying to produce "high flyer" that help them to achieve extremely good results in HKCEE (e.g. 8 A). The rest of students are surviving on themselves. And the HKCEE results that are being mentioned about is about "average". So my interpretation is the average HKCEE results their students achieved. So always the "average" results outweigh the extremely good results. I know a student from convent only got 14 pt just 2 years ago. But this doesn't discredit the school, just that be prepared most students have to survive on their own . But overall, I won't choose Marymount as only upto 60% go to its secondary, no guarantee. So let's say if you assume your girl will likely be those who are in mid-academic layer, then Convent will be fine as it provides direct promotion to secondary, and the upside is it offers better chances for those high flyers.

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作者: redkoni 時間: 11-6-6 14:13

升上中學,SPCS的課程彈性大,更多元化,Marymount小學輕鬆,中學較谷,英文出色,但整體與SPCS比較還差一線,以成績計,意見中肯便不會只強調MSS末代會考的歷年最好成績, 睇SPCS近五年的成績我覺得是全港top schools之一.我強調與St. Paul's和Marymount沒有任何關係.

作者: ukodelechan 時間: 11-6-6 18:20

Marymount 係要主動同有鬥心，較好勝的女孩。因為佢地好注重其他課外活動的發展，至少都要成績ok，音樂同體育都有一樣野叻。加上佢地之間都鬥得幾厲害，同埋女仔大多好有性格，可以話寸，或者係有自信。雖然課程唔係好深，都算係輕鬆，但係考試同評估幾深，尤其是英文科。因為老師都係好輕鬆教，所以好多都係家長谷或補習。

st. paul's convent 會適合較溫和，斯文型女仔。佢地較傳統，會大多注重係學業發展同讀書，課外活動會係較輕鬆，只係當興趣。之間的人際關系會比marymount好，佢地都幾開心同和諧，大多都溫和。課程會設合考試同測驗，老師都好有心機同耐性教，所以好多都係係學校已經學左，家長同小朋友都唔洗辛苦，大壓力。

作者: redkoni 時間: 11-6-6 18:27

原帖由 ukodelechan 於 11-6-6 18:20 發表
Marymount 係要主動同有鬥心，較好勝的女孩。因為佢地好注重其他課外活動的發展，至少都要成績ok，音樂同體育都有一樣野叻。加上佢地之間都鬥得幾厲害，同埋女仔大多好有性格，可以話寸，或者係有自信。雖然課程唔係好深，都算係輕 ...

Well said.

作者: Fionyiu 時間: 11-6-6 22:37

spcs是英小, 小朋友英文好好

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作者: AnotherHalf 時間: 11-6-6 22:39

Heard from friend who's got a daughter studying in SPC, saying that St. Paul Convent's Secondary school is not a through train school anymore.
So check that carefully if you take SPC due to through train school sake.

作者: redkoni 時間: 11-6-6 22:47

原帖由 AnotherHalf 於 11-6-6 22:39 發表
Heard from friend who's got a daughter studying in SPC, saying that St. Paul Convent's Secondary school is not a through train school anymore.
So check that carefully if you take SPC due to through ...

feeder school only

作者: Yiu1710 時間: 11-6-6 23:02

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作者: cckidsmm 時間: 11-6-7 00:21

原帖由 Yiu1710 於 11-6-6 23:02 發表
不要想太多, 還原基本步, 妳最初報St. Paul Convent 係為咩? 做個 backup?

讀左幾年,相信你同囡囡都對學校有一定認識, 要從新適應未必是好事, 如果不是$$,我會選擇St. Paul Convent. 升中

又唔洗煩,學生質素平均. MARYMOUNT係派位,質素參差d. 如果選擇spcs, 相信日後既路會易行d.

作者: harrison 時間: 11-6-7 01:00

原帖由 DeeDeeY 於 11-6-6 13:31 發表
請問呢位心理學家理據係咩,可以詳細講下嗎?

會考成績,真係MSS 好過SPC ?我聽到嘅係相反。仲有 MSS 係味重係文強理弱(我以前讀係咁)?

MPS課程係咪真係好輕鬆?我以前係中學讀就一D都唔輕鬆。如果小學鬆中學緊,學生會 ...

..

其實, 我係唔應該咁公開在這裏講關於我位心理學家對 Convent 同 Marymount 嘅理據, 我亦怕惹麻煩同得罪家長!  我只可以簡單引述佢同我講佢有幾個 case嘅女仔就係在 Convent 頂唔住 d 壓力和老師, 讀得好唔開心所以最後都要轉校.  當中因有些去了 Marymount, 所以佢跟進後知道她們讀得好開心.  不過, 這只是套用在"個幾個女仔"的身上......

當時我聽完就開始四出打探, 幸好兩方面的家長也認識不少.  一直我以為兩者的成績會有段距離; 但是有很多家長講原來兩間學校的成績近年不相伯仲,亦係他們教我從其學校的報告中可看到舊年的會考成績.  作為一個中肯的家長, 當然唔可以單看一次特出的成績下定論; 正正是我想帶出其實 Marymount 越追越貼, 兩間學校的成績都差不多咁好啫 !

我都係 St Paul 系的家長, 所以亦好了解學校的校風和學生, 以及家長們的心聲及感受.

每個小孩子的性格和能力都不同;  每個家長對學校的要求和祈望也不同,  我最緊張係想阿女有個快樂的 school life.........我只是有感而發, 在此表達我的意見而已 ! 衷心希望你囡囡將來無論讀哪一間都開開心心 !!

作者: DeeDeeY 時間: 11-6-7 01:52

好多謝大家嘅意見

作者: DeeDeeY 時間: 11-6-7 02:39

好多謝大家嘅意見。
之前填表,我同老公講笑如果跨區咁好彩都中,梗係個天整定叫女女去讀,所以中就一定要讀,當時完全冇諗過真係會中。
到近排成日聽到SPC課程愈來愈深,直上中學唔係必然,真係有D担心。點知嗰天突然俾個choice 我,兩間各有各好,對SPC有3年感情,對MSS有舊生情結,所以唔知點揀,好煩。

作者: ukodelechan 時間: 11-6-7 09:31

不過你預左Marymount辛苦，壓力大。但若果女兒都係tough,同埋aggressive就 ok。

否則st. paul's convent係唔錯的選擇，加上女兒有同學一起。

作者: 仔仔錫錫你 時間: 11-6-7 10:19

我係spn 家長，比着我都唔知點選.
從經濟角度 : mss 係唔洗$，但spc 係米真係貴到難以負擔？
學術 : 我相信大家都差唔多，如果有人硬說mss 好過spc, 我諗好半"袖"郩無,亦應該影響唔到佢入u 機會。
英文 : 我相信由小浸大比中學先谷一定運用得好，個別例子一定有，但唔多
原校升中比率 : 我唔點理會，因為成績跟唔上硬上中學都只係捱打，所受壓力重大
心理 : 對我而言，spc 較好，因為同學們早已認識，適應會較快。但你唔同，你係mss 舊生，如選mss 會有共同話題，感情應該會比人好

作者: littlechicken 時間: 11-6-7 15:40

I've the same case with you. Have you make a choice yet?

作者: ukodelechan 時間: 11-6-7 15:52

其實兩間都TOP，要睇女兒性格同類形，因兩間學校Style好唔同，女仔train得都好唔同。

作者: ukodelechan 時間: 11-6-12 17:27

其實兩間都TOP，要睇女兒性格同類形，因兩間學校Style好唔同，女仔train得都好唔同。

作者: 花花公仔 時間: 11-6-16 16:58

聽說大部份spc 的學生都是靠外面補習, 在學校又有分有錢人和窮人黨派, 是嗎? 老師serious 嗎?

作者: TinHay 時間: 11-6-16 23:21

I also given up a private school for an aided school...$$$ is a factor but also I can go back to the private school after I found out that if my son does not make it in the aided school...He was doing very good in his 1 year nursery & 3 years of kindergarten but having to pay for the next 6 years...is a very heavy bundle besides this year, there is not as many classmates staying on the primary school so I took a chance. Hope you make up your mind soon...any way we all want to make the best future for our children but we don't know whether "this best choice" in fact is really the best choice as we only live once & there is no turning back.

作者: ukodelechan 時間: 11-6-17 10:00

其實大部分Marymount都係有家庭背景，Marymount比SPC仲要貴族，除左小部分派位個d

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作者: chingchingfa 時間: 11-6-17 10:27 標題: 回復 4# 花花公仔的帖子

Not sure if any "noble" level found in secondary. Up to this moment, I don't feel any noble in SPCSPR.

作者: weisscarton 時間: 11-6-17 11:53

叻那一批全部唔是靠去補習社，靠上堂留心聽書，同閱讀大量課外書。

大部份家長都好低調，衣著簡單，返學都唔準帶貴重物品。返學無同學同你傾有幾有錢，通常都是傾邊本書好，最近有甚麽新書。我想黨派是分有返工同無返工，無返工那一批堂送完返學會一齊去食早餐，有返工都急急腳走，邊有時間一齊。

作者: ukodelechan 時間: 11-6-18 10:46

sorry 打錯字。。。

其實大部分Marymount都係有家庭背景，Marymount比SPC仲要貴族，除左小部分派位個d

作者: somay 時間: 11-6-19 00:11

I have exactly the same case as the editor.  My daughter has both seats (SPC ans Marymount) since November.  I have struggled for 8 months.
I wonder why MPS girls are more materialistic?  Do they come from different background because it is aided school?  I just guess SPC girls are rather more 'princess-like'.  I don't know.  But behaviour, values and attitude would be one of my concern.  Please share!
$$ is also one of my concern.  Although my family is not in the 'low' status, 'free' is better that 'paid', do you agree?
Personally, I prefer MPS.  But my husband and my daughter prefer SPC.

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作者: 4eyesDad 時間: 11-6-19 06:47 標題: 回覆 42# somay 的文章

Who is the person going to study - you or your daughter?
If you put the matter to a vote in your family, who will win - you or your daughter plus your husband?
If you insist on your choice, who will suffer - you or your daughter plus your husband?
Hope these questions help you to resolve the matter without delay and you can release a place to those in needs.

作者: ukodelechan 時間: 11-6-19 10:17

睇番我之前的意見！其實兩間的女孩係好唔同，除左學費之外，重有要適合阿女呀！
同埋其實即使係唔洗學費，都要補習，課外活動等雜費。因為Marymount要求全面的女仔，所以好多家長都花好多錢係課外活動，St. Paul's Convent都會，但係都係係讀書多，所以其實兩間的花費都唔會差好遠。

我覺得兩間女仔都係princess-like架。

今期親子王有訪問Marymount，睇下了解多d!

作者: fmei011 時間: 11-6-20 12:03

Just happened find this topic.  May be I can share some of my experience.

My elder daughter once studied and my younger daughter is studying in MSS.  They both studied in MPS.  My commment is that MPS is really a very good primary school: Not just focus on academic, but alos encourage students to have all-rounded knowledge.  The English is really outstanding but at the expense of Chinese (not bad, but just average as compared to all HK primary schools).  Some comments that the top primary students left the school.  Yes, they go to the even higher ranked secondary schools.

I heard that there are about 70% of MPS girls go back to MSS, which is not too bad, considering that some (those top students) have given up their seats.  Of course, I don't know about the last 2 years.

My comment on MSS is also a good school.  Academic-wise, my feeling is that it is improving (based on my perception with my two daughters).  But one thing needs to note that the school seems to be stronger in Arts subjects but relatively less in Science.  I am not sure whether it is because it is quite common among girls that they prefer Arts.  I suggest to check their previous public exam results to confirm.

As some have mentioned before, the schools (both MPS and MSS) are open.  Teachers are generally kind and show respects to the students.  They are good at training the confidence of the girls.  Their school life is happy and free.  Homework and exam pressure is not so much as compared to other schools in general but my feeling is getting stronger.

Hope it helps.

作者: lugano 時間: 11-6-20 13:57

又係黑白鞋 vs 黃藍衫..... 講左幾十年

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作者: Kiufyma 時間: 11-6-20 18:33

MPS的英文是強的但相對地她們的中文及數學卻並不太出色,由於她們的top學生在升中時很多會轉去DGS或St. Paul Co-ed.為確保中學質素,Marymount中學甚少在第一輪自選階段收取自己小學學生,所以一定要保持好成績(A多B少)才有機會在feeder school 名額內獲考慮 (約65%),正因為這個原因,家長私底下的競爭是很厲害的, 而壓力並非來自學校,所以學生比較開心.

作者: KK07 時間: 11-6-21 09:40

原帖由 lugano 於 11-6-20 13:57 發表
又係黑白鞋 vs 黃藍衫..... 講左幾十年

兩間學校的學生, 早視對方為競爭對手, 但 Paul Con 轉了直資後, 能更容易自主收學生, 有本錢挑戰 DGS

但要我選, 我都係選 MSS , 因我喜歡她堅持有教無類的精神, 親民好多 ...

同意真係無需去比較,兩間都係好學校. 想提一點St Paul's girls 系有三間中學,Causeway Bay的為直資, 跑馬地及藍田的為津校,所以我感覺貴族化非她們辦校方針.

作者: Sindy 時間: 11-6-24 12:34

我女係MPS畢業,係我都會揀SPC

作者: wootaitai 時間: 11-6-24 14:23

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作者: Sindy 時間: 11-6-24 15:02

原帖由 wootaitai 於 11-6-24 14:23 發表
why? can you PM me?

學術我覺得差唔多,升中有保障D,不過,兩間都係好學校

同埋升學前途好D,SPC讀GCSE丫麻..

[ 本帖最後由 Sindy 於 11-6-24 15:08 編輯 ]

作者: elbar 時間: 11-6-25 12:46

原帖由 DeeDeeY 於 11-6-4 12:02 發表
竟然跨區中Marymount,好似整定咁,點揀好?

St. Paul Convent & Marymount
兩間都咁好,邊間會輕鬆的?升中又點睇?

有冇SPK 家長有呢個情形,請問你地點揀同點解(我得一個女,唔駛幫阿妺)? ...

若論近年本地中學公開試成績，SPCS 應僅次於 SPCC 和 DGS

作者: iantsang 時間: 11-6-26 00:21

What about 鄧顯? And I think QC and La Salle would have more 拔尖 than SPCS (may not be as good to compare overall as this is common issues with boys' schools).

And don't forget BPS. I just compared their 2010 HKCEE by subjects, BPS is better than SPCS in all major subjects, with the exception of English.

原帖由 elbar 於 11-6-25 12:46 發表

若論近年本地中學公開試成績，SPCS 應僅次於 SPCC 和 DGS

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 11-6-26 00:33 編輯 ]

作者: season_sincere 時間: 11-6-26 21:45

Marymount is better than St. Paul's Convent in the whole.

作者: mark2006 時間: 11-6-27 09:49

For English subject, what are their differences ? eg Eng Lit,fiction,extra material....

作者: fatping1 時間: 11-6-30 15:48

This type of topic will end up SPCS parents talk about SPCS whereas MPS parents talk about MPS. Why bother to compare?

作者: fatping1 時間: 11-6-30 15:50 標題: 回復 3# season_sincere 的帖子

Another "fair" comment.

作者: 藍天心 時間: 11-10-19 19:13

近幾年瑪小升上瑪中的比例是5至6成。瑪中收外來生較多，第一輪48个全是對外生，偶然老師囡囡或特別名人之後會特別安排。很多小六尖子都走哂去女拔、聖保羅男女、聖士提反女子、聖保祿.....第二輪收生大部分是band 2類。有一点同意，她們英文能力較強，HECEE100%全合格，可惜有些囡囡習慣公主式生活，要看自已女兒定力，千萬別埋堆那些名人之後，除非父母同意門對門，並無限量支持，否則囡囡會走向公主路，父母吃力。

我較喜歡聖保祿的囡囡！

作者: mrnosey 時間: 11-10-19 21:10

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